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Seahawks WR Jackson may have degenerative knee (1 Viewer)

Despite the "witty" comments making light of these observations because it's preseason, blah blah blah, at the very least there should be some concern based on the fact that Jackson took several weeks longer than the most conservative estimations to return last season after his injury/surgery, and now that same pattern is presenting itself this preseason. It's hard to believe he'll stay healthy all season long. While injuries are part of the game, going into the season with a known chronic/degenerative condition is different from accepting that any player can get hurt.

I'd rather let Jackson be someone else's potential problem unless he falls a round or so past ADP. The bigger question to me is how much should this devalue Hasselbeck: none, a little or a lot. I vote for a little, as this 2005 split suggests:

Hasselbeck with Jackson, Weeks 1-4 and 15-16 (disregard 17):

244 passing yards per game, with 10 TDs in 6 games

213 passing yards per game, with 15 TDs in 9 games (same TD ratio)

Some of the discrepancy can be accounted for due to the MNF snowstorm game at Philly, but it's still a reduction of 30 yards a game. If Jackson does miss significant time (and without Jurevicius as a replacement), then I think you can knock Hasselbeck down a little.

 
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While injuries are part of the game, going into the season with a known chronic/degenerative condition is different from accepting that any player can get hurt.
i agree, but as #@%&$!? highlighted below, this is speculative:
Seahawks WR Jackson may have degenerative knee

Written by: - ffLiveWire - ¦ 8/21/2006

Source: blogs.thenewstribune.com

Darrell Jackson's knee does fall into the degenerative category from what I know about those types of injuries. He might be a candidate for arthritis and a shortened career.

http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/seahawks?p...p;pb=1#more2320
 
"Darrell Jackson's knee does fall into the degenerative category from what I know about those types of injuries. He might be a candidate for arthritis and a shortened career. That's what I read upon researching the injury at the time of his first surgery". ...

This is Mike Sando's personal view of what he reads upon researching the type of injury. It doesn't say Jackson has been diagnosed w/ a degenerative knee, it says this is what Mike Sando reads...

IF he isn't back for PreSeason game #3 as expected THEN I would worry. But I think it's pretty weak from a reporting standpoint...

A reporter researches a injury and then states the guy MIGHT have a shortened career.

Can the season please start tomorrow??

 
"Darrell Jackson's knee does fall into the degenerative category from what I know about those types of injuries. He might be a candidate for arthritis and a shortened career. That's what I read upon researching the injury at the time of his first surgery". ...This is Mike Sando's personal view of what he reads upon researching the type of injury. It doesn't say Jackson has been diagnosed w/ a degenerative knee, it says this is what Mike Sando reads...IF he isn't back for PreSeason game #3 as expected THEN I would worry. But I think it's pretty weak from a reporting standpoint...A reporter researches a injury and then states the guy MIGHT have a shortened career.Can the season please start tomorrow??
:goodposting:
 
While injuries are part of the game, going into the season with a known chronic/degenerative condition is different from accepting that any player can get hurt.
i agree, but as #@%&$!? highlighted below, this is speculative:
Seahawks WR Jackson may have degenerative knee

Written by: - ffLiveWire - ¦ 8/21/2006

Source: blogs.thenewstribune.com

Darrell Jackson's knee does fall into the degenerative category from what I know about those types of injuries. He might be a candidate for arthritis and a shortened career.

http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/seahawks?p...p;pb=1#more2320
The specific condition of his knee right now is speculative. However, there is no speculation concerning the fact that he had a serious knee injury last season that resulted in him missing more than half the season. And this preseason, he is again not healthy enough to play due to the same knee. At least that's how I'm seeing it. Here's speculation: let's say Jackson doesn't play all preseason; you really want to spend a 3rd/4th round pick on him?
 
Here's speculation: let's say Jackson doesn't play all preseason; you really want to spend a 3rd/4th round pick on him?
doesn't seem to be stopping anyone from drafting Alge Crumpler at his ADP.i believe Jackson is expected to play this week.
 
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While injuries are part of the game, going into the season with a known chronic/degenerative condition is different from accepting that any player can get hurt.
i agree, but as #@%&$!? highlighted below, this is speculative:
Seahawks WR Jackson may have degenerative knee

Written by: - ffLiveWire - ¦ 8/21/2006

Source: blogs.thenewstribune.com

Darrell Jackson's knee does fall into the degenerative category from what I know about those types of injuries. He might be a candidate for arthritis and a shortened career.

http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/seahawks?p...p;pb=1#more2320
The specific condition of his knee right now is speculative. However, there is no speculation concerning the fact that he had a serious knee injury last season that resulted in him missing more than half the season. And this preseason, he is again not healthy enough to play due to the same knee. At least that's how I'm seeing it. Here's speculation: let's say Jackson doesn't play all preseason; you really want to spend a 3rd/4th round pick on him?
Yes, because of all the players at WR that had a "knee" in 2005. He's the ONLY one who played in 2005 AFTER his injury.Yes he had a second knee scope, so did javon Walker who had a far more substantial injury.

Can we wait until the 3rd preseason game to throw the dirt on DJax? If he doesn't play, then there is concern, but the HC came out and said they are targeting pre season game #3.

 
The specific condition of his knee right now is speculative. However, there is no speculation concerning the fact that he had a serious knee injury last season that resulted in him missing more than half the season. And this preseason, he is again not healthy enough to play due to the same knee. At least that's how I'm seeing it. Here's speculation: let's say Jackson doesn't play all preseason; you really want to spend a 3rd/4th round pick on him?
that is a good question.i'm personally not ready to hit the panic button yet.
 
Despite the "witty" comments making light of these observations because it's preseason, blah blah blah, at the very least there should be some concern based on the fact that Jackson took several weeks longer than the most conservative estimations to return last season after his injury/surgery, and now that same pattern is presenting itself this preseason. It's hard to believe he'll stay healthy all season long. While injuries are part of the game, going into the season with a known chronic/degenerative condition is different from accepting that any player can get hurt.I'd rather let Jackson be someone else's potential problem unless he falls a round or so past ADP. The bigger question to me is how much should this devalue Hasselbeck: none, a little or a lot. I vote for a little, as this 2005 split suggests:Hasselbeck with Jackson, Weeks 1-4 and 15-16 (disregard 17):244 passing yards per game, with 10 TDs in 6 games213 passing yards per game, with 15 TDs in 9 games (same TD ratio)Some of the discrepancy can be accounted for due to the MNF snowstorm game at Philly, but it's still a reduction of 30 yards a game. If Jackson does miss significant time (and without Jurevicius as a replacement), then I think you can knock Hasselbeck down a little.
Not :goodposting: but Excellent posting!
 
While injuries are part of the game, going into the season with a known chronic/degenerative condition is different from accepting that any player can get hurt.
i agree, but as #@%&$!? highlighted below, this is speculative:
Seahawks WR Jackson may have degenerative knee

Written by: - ffLiveWire - ¦ 8/21/2006

Source: blogs.thenewstribune.com

Darrell Jackson's knee does fall into the degenerative category from what I know about those types of injuries. He might be a candidate for arthritis and a shortened career.

http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/seahawks?p...p;pb=1#more2320
The specific condition of his knee right now is speculative. However, there is no speculation concerning the fact that he had a serious knee injury last season that resulted in him missing more than half the season. And this preseason, he is again not healthy enough to play due to the same knee. At least that's how I'm seeing it. Here's speculation: let's say Jackson doesn't play all preseason; you really want to spend a 3rd/4th round pick on him?
Yes, because of all the players at WR that had a "knee" in 2005. He's the ONLY one who played in 2005 AFTER his injury.Yes he had a second knee scope, so did javon Walker who had a far more substantial injury.

Can we wait until the 3rd preseason game to throw the dirt on DJax? If he doesn't play, then there is concern, but the HC came out and said they are targeting pre season game #3.
It's not throwing dirt on Jackson to raise concern over an injury that has bothered him now for 11 months and counting. The extent of the injury is not as important to me as the level of recovery and expectation for relapse. I can certainly be wrong, but from what I've heard, Jackson is worse than Walker on both counts.Perhaps some FF players -- like you -- have a higher risk tolerance in this situation, while others -- like me -- are more risk averse. I do think that this is legitimate discussion on a FF message board. You give your perspective, I give mine, others read and draw their own conclusions. No need to get defensive/aggressive just because I have a different perspective.

 
this is just a journalist's opinion -- no real substance here.
So is this the case or should there be some concern here?
I've seen Sando (Tacoma New Tribune) do this before. He has a tendency to give too much opinion in his analysis instead of just giving facts. If you really want the scoop in Seattle Clare Farnesworth (Seattle PI) is the source you can depend on.From my perspective this is just opinion and speculation.
 
This isn't news to me...

WTF would you expect from the Super Bowl losing team? You think they're gonna have GOOD luck?

And to compound matters... his teammate is on the cover of Madden 2007. A further hex.

 
this is an absolute poison pill for potential djax trades, lavar arrington has a degenerative knee and its holding him to one practice a day and limiting all aspects of his game...very not good

 
this is just a journalist's opinion -- no real substance here.
Agreed - besides, if you think about it any knee injury will be degenerative if you give it enough time. IMO This shouldn't affect him this year at all. But then again, I am a little of a D Jack Homer. :bag:
 

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