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Seeing Hines upset on SC this morning (1 Viewer)
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steelerfan1
Footballguy
i was gonna post on this as well. it broke my heart. after seeing him and plax, i think it's clear who the steeler is.
total team guy. i feel real bad for him. i have little doubt we will sign him long term and hopefully can address our other side through the draft.
here's a link if anyone hasn't seen a true football (steeler) guy.: link
YOU DA MAN HINES!!!
total team guy. i feel real bad for him. i have little doubt we will sign him long term and hopefully can address our other side through the draft.
here's a link if anyone hasn't seen a true football (steeler) guy.: link
YOU DA MAN HINES!!!
Macdaddy_2004
Footballguy
Here's another typical PAT fan (classless) - Hines is a great guy - No need to come down on him at all
Wheelhouse
Footballguy
I think it's wrong to call Pats fans classless.
Maybe what porkins said was a little out of line considering the circumstances, but I think it's wrong to include all fans with that behavior. I feel bad for Hines Ward as well as Jerome Bettis and the rest of the Steelers and to see Hines Ward shedding a tear on TV really shows how much emotion and drive he has for the game.'Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened.' - Dr. Seuss
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Seriously,Is it a prerequisite around here to make broad sweeping generalizations anytime someone says something that's disagreeable to someone else? This board is full of an incredibly diverse group of people that have disparate beliefs, socioeconomic demographics, levels of eduction, and yes, manners. But when someone says something, how is it then immediately labeled as indicative of anyone else that might share something in common with them? One Pats fan (who if you look back hasn't exactly offered the most insightful analysis) chimes in with something crude, and he's the "typical Pats fan?"Let's try to tone down the hyperbole...I would say the great many Patriots fans I've seen on these boards handle themselves with class and intellect, if anything the comment that got you fired up was ATYPICAL of the average Pats fan IMHO.
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
Mac,A word of unsolicited advice? Get over it. The game is over. The team that was better on Sunday won. You're not helping yourself by swiping at Pats fans every time they post something.COlin
Workhorse
Footballguy
Hines Ward is pretty much everything you could ask for in a football player. Talented, tough, passionate, intense. If there's one player in the NFL who "deserves" a ring, it's that guy. Ward might be the greatest blocking 1,000 yard WR of all time.
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Yes, there IS crying in football. You don't work that hard and fall short of your goal, and then just shake it off like nothing happened. Hines Ward and Jerome Bettis have big, big hearts- I don't think there's anything wrong with Ward wearing his emotions on his sleeve at a time like this.As for Bettis, I think he can punch his ticket to Canton. And I think he's also a slamdunk for a network commentator job- very articulate and insightful. I'd rather listen to him than Shannon Sharpe any day.Just two cents from another classless Pats fan, 
MR
MRMacdaddy_2004
Footballguy
HIJACKYou guys seriously need to watch a PATS home game - you also just gotta look around your local city and see how many rubes have come out of hiding since 2001 - or as you would call them bandwagonjumpersWhile on this message board there are some non-average pat fans who do provide insightful analysis and insight (and are even classy about their team) the majority of street PAT fans that you find in your own local city or at your job or see at Gilette are all unbelievably arrogant.Trust me it doesn't stop if and when these PATS are labelled a Dynasty - next all the bandwagoners are gonna say that this Dynasty was the greatest dynasty of all time.END HIJACK
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
Seriously, you either need to let it go or find somewhere else to
. Are there annoying Pats fans? Yes. But there are plenty of annoying Steelers fans too. That goes for pretty much EVERY sports team in every sport. I live in central Texas, so I'm bombarded with the worst bandwagon jumpers of all time - Cowboy fans, Longhorn fans, and Spurs fans. It gets me nowhere to complain about it and it certainly doesn't make me feel better.I would suggest that if you can't resolve yourself to the behavior of other team's fans and just "let it go", you find something else to watch.Colin
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I don't understand this obsession with calling anything that steps outside the bounds of a button-down corporate politically correct approach not classy.This is football. There are rivalrys. Browns hate Steelers. Redskins hate Cowboys.The way some people act on here, its utterly wrong and classless for there to even BE a rivalry. What are we supposed to do? All hug each other? Should the home crowd cheer for their team AND the visitor?Its making me hate the entire concept of having class, and I'm not sure I like that.
I can also understand the sentiment that one doesn't want the Shark Pool to degenerate into 100% trash talk. But at the same time it is a part of competitive athletics and you just can't remove it. Its possible to find a balance. I try to mix in a little celebration with my thoughtful analysis, for example.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Given that every recent steeler related thread has been poluted with yours and crackdaddy crap I'm not one bit surpised that you don't understand why it's annoying. There's a time and a place for everything. Yes, there is room for trash talk in the shark pool. IT JUST DOES NOT NEED TO BE IN EVERY ####### THREAD RELATED TO A CERTAIN TEAM.
Macdaddy_2004
Footballguy
You seriously need to watch an interview with any PATS player especially any of the following1) Brady2) Brown3) Belicheck4) harrisonThe word respect is thrown around like nothing. They respect everyone, always know that they have to work hard and that on any given day they can be beat.However than you have the flip side - 1) signing a guy like Dillon who openly criticizes the Bengals anytime the mic is at his mouth2) Not showing some restraint when a game is well in hand - mocking great fans of a great organization - In essence why I am so pi$$ed about the mocking is because most fans were leaving the stadium anyways and Branch and Co we're essentially looking at them waving towels as in a sense to say "GO HOME!!!"To me that is not respectI've never seen another organization do this to fans that we're knowingly beat - even when Randy Moss was trash talking fans in GB the game was only in the 3rd quarter.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Especially when your "insight" is just
I'm sorry for what I said. I didn't mean for it to turn into a gang war. That just happens to be one of my favorite lines from the movies and I usually say it when ever the opportunity presents itself. I realize that Hines Ward is a great player and deserves much respect. I realize that football is just as much about emotion as it is talent. Jerome Bettis will greatly be missed if he does indeed retire. I'm truely sorry if I offended anyone with my wise-crack.:rodneyking: "Can't we all just get along?" :rodneyking:
humans_being
Footballguy
First off, i don't see where it was so "disrespectful". So they were having fun with a "terrible towel" of their own. Big deal. Get over it.Secondly, if you've never seen another winning team do this to fans then you haven't been on this planet very long. That or you just started watching sports. I mean, it's not like other great fans of a great organizations haven't had it done to them.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Hines Ward is without a doubt my favorite Steeler and one of my favorite wide receivers in the NFL.He is the "anti" wide receiver. He's tough. He's loyal. He's all about the team. Go ahead an try to find someone you'd rather walk down a dark alley with. Hines is THE MAN!!! 
I thought they should have used him more. I worried about our CBs playing a quick savvy veteran the week before against the Colts then thought "oh no Ward's next".Did he whine about that or not mention it?Tears are a bit much IMO but nevertheless it show's he bleeds black and gold which can't be a bad thing for Stihler fans.Jerome had it easy(or easier) this year with Duce around. I think his body can handle that again, don't you? Wonder though if he's just "spent" and needs to retire to rest and all.Randel-el looks like a tweener, very good 3rd WR not good enough to start every week, but he may be. With that line and their running ability, they don't have to have Moss lineup wide. I dunno maybe they need some height. He's like Dante Hall to me. I feel like if they counted on him it could back fire but then again it's exciting to think what if they put the ball in his hands more.
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
HATER!I was a little embarassed for the guy
C
Cunning Linguist
Guest
Eff Hines Ward. Now he knows how i felt this year. He KILLED me. 
Macdaddy_2004
Footballguy
Okay if its not a big deal - don't worry about itI can just imagine the uproar about lack of integrety in NE papers had the situatio been reversed - if the game was in NE and pitts won and were mocking fans as they left the stadium
It really is a double standard for you guys.
And in the last 5-10 years in the NFL I don't remember in any Championship game were a team mocked the fans as they had the game won handily.
The Patriots to have an arrogance about their team that they try to play down during interview time - really reminds me of the Lakers a year ago
Of course we all know what happened to them against a heavily under dogged Piston team
Kilgore Trout
Footballguy
Give it up already. You are taking sore loser to a whole new level.
Macdaddy_2004
Footballguy
HA - did you see the sore winners on Sunday ??Trust me if I am gonna have to put up with a whole off season of hearing why the PATS are so great I am gonna get all the trash talking I can in before the SuperBowl
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
THese posts are priceless...
No its not a "double-standard" for us. After reading your posts, there is NO WAY on earth that I believe that if the situation you describe happened, you would be in here saying anything other than "The Steelers Won! :stiller: Deal with it losers!"
Shannon Sharpe calling the National Guard....short memory?
I'll eat my shoes with a side of brocolli is you can find ANY quote in any context from a Patriot player or coach that anyone mistakes for some of the things that came out of LA in recent years. More to the point - WHO FRIGGIN CARES? Even if they were "arrogant" (which I'm not willing to admit), what's it to you? As the saying goes, "if you don't like being beat, play harder."Colin
Back on topic. I guess I'm getting old and cynical but I coulda definitely done with out the crying.And I'm a Ward fan. Probably because I'm a Ward fan.Not a big deal but some stuff oughta stay private. In our reality TV society though where any bit of real drama is pounced upon wtih microphones and cameras, it's tougher to do that .J
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Kilgore Trout
Footballguy
You might want to exchange that shovel for a backhoe.
I like Ward a lot as a player, and I appreciate seeing how emotionally invested he was in the game and the outcome.But, come on. The sobbing on camera the day AFTER the game (which wasn't even the Super Bowl), in which they were an underdog starting a rookie QB against the best team in football, was a bit much.He had to be aware that losing here was a definite possibility.
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Macdaddy_2004
Footballguy
That guy plays with Heart and I am sure that he could not control his feelings when asked to answer questionsHe Broke down man - cut him some slack
well I'm not so sure.The last so many years it has been far more common to have smallish WRs. I remember when the Jets only had Kevin Swayne as the only guy over 6 feet tall.I think at first Santana was just a deep threat and anything else he got was just because the CB was playing so far off him it was easy, too easy. He's improving alot though and I wouldn't say that now. I think generally, they've gotta be extra disciplined on their route running. The bigger receivers can muscle for a catch, jump high, stretch their long arms out and sorta make up for an undisciplinned route. Is Randel-el? I dunno.Dante Hall, to me, seems only special once he gets the ball and he doesn't go deep well or over the middle well. Sure I think Vermeil could teach that and instill some discipline but ...nother discussion. Doesn't do the Chiefs any good if he's not open.There's been slow tight ends (heck I thought I could walk faster than Herman Moore after his injuries) that know how to find the open spot in a zone and do just that. That's cool, that works too. In that regard, those slow tight ends are far better receivers than Hall. I haven't seen enough of Randel-el to know about his route running skill or lack there-of.
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
If you are going to come to a thread and make it a case of "Hines Ward is such a gamer!" then people have the right to come in and voice their opinion on it as well. Some people that it was too much, a little too overblown and too dramatic. ColinThat guy plays with Heart and I am sure that he could not control his feelings when asked to answer questionsHe Broke down man - cut him some slack
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Spike
Footballguy
Uh, my take on it was that he was so upset because of Bettis probably/likely not coming back (due to Bettis' comments). I don't see anything wrong with what he said and how he said it.Also, I don't think it being the day after they lost had anything to do with it.Personally, I feel Ward is one of the top 3 WRs in the game I'd want to see on my team (the Pats, btw), if they could get him.
people RIPPED Kellen Winslow for his comments in Miami last year that compared football to war.He plays with Heart and probably let his emotions get the best of him there.isn't this a bit of a double standard?not to mention one was a 20-year old kid while the other is a grown man getting paid millions of dollars. one happened immediately after the game, while the other occurred the following day.
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Kilgore Trout
Footballguy
I haven't seen the clip yet, but what the heck is wrong with showing some emotion? I admire a man more when he is actually in touch with his feelings instead of being unemotional. We need to get some of you guys into the 21st century.by crying, or even thinking that it's ok for a man to cry, we are obviously gay.
Kilgore Trout
Footballguy
Want to go out for dinner sometime?
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
Keep your "logic" out of here....COlin
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
What did Ward say that was so stupid? If he didn't say anythign stupid, then there is no doubel standard. Hines gets a pass from me on this one....he's done too much good for the Steelers for me to badmouth him here.
I didn't say he said anything stupid.Anger and sadness are both perfectly understandable emotions after a tough loss.But, if you're going to allow one player's emotions to get the best of him (and use that to explain his subsequent behavior), then I think you should use that same standard for everybody.
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