*Semi-official Green Bay Packers Super Bowl Champs thread (1 Viewer)

[Sabertooth]

NOw that we have resigned our own guys, is it too much to hope that Ted will make a free agency acquisition or two? I get tired of never hearing anything about the Packers bringing guys in. And before anyone says free agents cost too much, I think the following players could be had at reasonable contracts and would all provide help. If we could pick up at least one, and maybe 2 of these guys, I would really feel a lot better about the team heading into the draft. Gibril Wilson safety, Lito Shepard cb, William Gay cb, Joey Porter lb, Jason Babin lb, Travis Laboy lb, Mike Bell rb, Richie incognito g/c

Do you want them to sign someone just for the sake of signing? Porter?.....Really? Incognito?......Come on!

I had this same response typed up last night. I decided "why bother."

 

[CletiusMaximus]

I agree with this for sure. There is some depth at tackle for sure in this draft, so they might find a decent long term answer in the second or even third. In true Thompson style, I don't think he'll reach for need, especially with both Clifton and Tauscher signed to deals.

OL will be extremely interesting this year in the draft and through training camp. I would love to get up there one day during camp to watch these guys compete. I think Colledge has been given every opportunity and has proven that he is not an NFL player. I would like to see Lang take over at RG, but I think given Scott Wells excellent play last season we almost want to keep him at C and put Spitz at RG. In either case, the interior positions are solid with starters and back-ups. I am a hopeless homer in many ways, so am still holding out some hope that there is a reason they have kept Breno around for so long, and even that Barbre may be able to rebound from a terrible season and show us what it is the coaches see in him.

 

[griz145389]

NOw that we have resigned our own guys, is it too much to hope that Ted will make a free agency acquisition or two? I get tired of never hearing anything about the Packers bringing guys in. And before anyone says free agents cost too much, I think the following players could be had at reasonable contracts and would all provide help. If we could pick up at least one, and maybe 2 of these guys, I would really feel a lot better about the team heading into the draft. Gibril Wilson safety, Lito Shepard cb, William Gay cb, Joey Porter lb, Jason Babin lb, Travis Laboy lb, Mike Bell rb, Richie incognito g/c

Do you want them to sign someone just for the sake of signing? Porter?.....Really? Incognito?......Come on!

Exactly. I don't understand this mind set. None of the guys you mentioned interest me at all. Why would they sign them? Thompson managed this the correct way. He knew he had a bunch of guys coming up contract wise. He wanted to keep them. He made it happen and kept the core of last year's pretty good team intact.

Incognito is a better guard than Colledge imho. Porter would be low on my list of guys to pick up but he could provde depth. I am more interested in Shepard and Gay both guys with starting experience that would help shore up an area that we need, cb.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Thompson had plenty of emergencies to addres with the old team he inheritied and with the salary cap he was left. That he has not yet addressed tackles does not surprise me. I think he addressed many needs, generally increased the talent level, and got best player available to a great extent to make the roster far stronger than he found it. Now tha tth eteam is competitive i do expect him to reprioritize and to address tackle and corner. Saying that a guy who has been there for such a short time has absolute gtrends that can be projected to the future is stupid, IMO. We do not yet know his entire ability or philosophy. This year will tell us more but so far i am pleased with both he and McCarthy who work well together and who have built something while leaving the credit to the players and not seeking it themselves.

 

[ookook]

Any chance we take Taylor Mays?

Would like Joe Haden, but that seems unlikely. Might be worth moving up a bit...

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Thompson had plenty of emergencies to addres with the old team he inheritied and with the salary cap he was left. That he has not yet addressed tackles does not surprise me. I think he addressed many needs, generally increased the talent level, and got best player available to a great extent to make the roster far stronger than he found it. Now tha tth eteam is competitive i do expect him to reprioritize and to address tackle and corner. Saying that a guy who has been there for such a short time has absolute gtrends that can be projected to the future is stupid, IMO. We do not yet know his entire ability or philosophy. This year will tell us more but so far i am pleased with both he and McCarthy who work well together and who have built something while leaving the credit to the players and not seeking it themselves.

When do you EVER know someone's entire ability or philosophy?

I do like TT's job thus far in GB....however vets at certain positions(OT, CB, WR) have made the transition easier to the young guys. When young guys step up and perform in those positions...that will tell the future of his tenure.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

I agree with this for sure. There is some depth at tackle for sure in this draft, so they might find a decent long term answer in the second or even third. In true Thompson style, I don't think he'll reach for need, especially with both Clifton and Tauscher signed to deals.

OL will be extremely interesting this year in the draft and through training camp. I would love to get up there one day during camp to watch these guys compete. I think Colledge has been given every opportunity and has proven that he is not an NFL player. I would like to see Lang take over at RG, but I think given Scott Wells excellent play last season we almost want to keep him at C and put Spitz at RG. In either case, the interior positions are solid with starters and back-ups. I am a hopeless homer in many ways, so am still holding out some hope that there is a reason they have kept Breno around for so long, and even that Barbre may be able to rebound from a terrible season and show us what it is the coaches see in him.

Actually Josh Sitton has RG all locked up. He was probably their most consistent O lineman last year. I think Spitz and Colledge battle for LG, Wells Center. So left to right, Clifton, Spitz/Colledge, Wells, Sitton, Tausher.After that, hard to say.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Spencer Havner breaks scapula in motorcycle accident

Posted by Mike Florio on March 15, 2010 11:13 PM ET

Packers tight end Spencer Havner, who scored four touchdowns on only seven catches during the 2009 regular season -- and one touchdown on two catches in a playoff loss at Arizona -- recently was arrested for DUI in California after crashing a motorcycle.

According to TheUnion.com, Havner lost control of a motorcycle, fracturing a scapula and suffering cuts to the back of his head and left arm.

He was not wearing a helmet.

Authorities determined that Havner was under the influence, and he was arrested.

Lets hope he makes a full recovery.

 

[Sabertooth]

Spencer Havner breaks scapula in motorcycle accidentPosted by Mike Florio on March 15, 2010 11:13 PM ETPackers tight end Spencer Havner, who scored four touchdowns on only seven catches during the 2009 regular season -- and one touchdown on two catches in a playoff loss at Arizona -- recently was arrested for DUI in California after crashing a motorcycle.According to TheUnion.com, Havner lost control of a motorcycle, fracturing a scapula and suffering cuts to the back of his head and left arm.He was not wearing a helmet.Authorities determined that Havner was under the influence, and he was arrested.Lets hope he makes a full recovery.

What a moron.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Spencer Havner breaks scapula in motorcycle accidentPosted by Mike Florio on March 15, 2010 11:13 PM ETPackers tight end Spencer Havner, who scored four touchdowns on only seven catches during the 2009 regular season -- and one touchdown on two catches in a playoff loss at Arizona -- recently was arrested for DUI in California after crashing a motorcycle.According to TheUnion.com, Havner lost control of a motorcycle, fracturing a scapula and suffering cuts to the back of his head and left arm.He was not wearing a helmet.Authorities determined that Havner was under the influence, and he was arrested.Lets hope he makes a full recovery.

What a moron.

Stupid is as stupid does.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

I agree with this for sure. There is some depth at tackle for sure in this draft, so they might find a decent long term answer in the second or even third. In true Thompson style, I don't think he'll reach for need, especially with both Clifton and Tauscher signed to deals.

OL will be extremely interesting this year in the draft and through training camp. I would love to get up there one day during camp to watch these guys compete. I think Colledge has been given every opportunity and has proven that he is not an NFL player. I would like to see Lang take over at RG, but I think given Scott Wells excellent play last season we almost want to keep him at C and put Spitz at RG. In either case, the interior positions are solid with starters and back-ups. I am a hopeless homer in many ways, so am still holding out some hope that there is a reason they have kept Breno around for so long, and even that Barbre may be able to rebound from a terrible season and show us what it is the coaches see in him.

Actually Josh Sitton has RG all locked up. He was probably their most consistent O lineman last year. I think Spitz and Colledge battle for LG, Wells Center. So left to right, Clifton, Spitz/Colledge, Wells, Sitton, Tausher.After that, hard to say.

that was a typo. I think long term, Lang is the answer at LG with Spitz at C and Sitton RG. However, for next season, with Wells playing well and health concerns at both tackles, they may end up with Spitz at LG and Lang backing up at both tackles, with Barbre and Breno. My main point is that I think Colledge is the worst of the group and is at best an emergency fill-in off the bench, but am still holding hope that either Barbre or Breno could emerge as a legit NFL tackle. If Thompson can hit on one decent OL in the draft, the line could be in decent position to transition out of the Clifton/Tauscher era after next year.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I agree with this for sure. There is some depth at tackle for sure in this draft, so they might find a decent long term answer in the second or even third. In true Thompson style, I don't think he'll reach for need, especially with both Clifton and Tauscher signed to deals.

OL will be extremely interesting this year in the draft and through training camp. I would love to get up there one day during camp to watch these guys compete. I think Colledge has been given every opportunity and has proven that he is not an NFL player. I would like to see Lang take over at RG, but I think given Scott Wells excellent play last season we almost want to keep him at C and put Spitz at RG. In either case, the interior positions are solid with starters and back-ups. I am a hopeless homer in many ways, so am still holding out some hope that there is a reason they have kept Breno around for so long, and even that Barbre may be able to rebound from a terrible season and show us what it is the coaches see in him.

Actually Josh Sitton has RG all locked up. He was probably their most consistent O lineman last year. I think Spitz and Colledge battle for LG, Wells Center. So left to right, Clifton, Spitz/Colledge, Wells, Sitton, Tausher.After that, hard to say.

that was a typo. I think long term, Lang is the answer at LG with Spitz at C and Sitton RG. However, for next season, with Wells playing well and health concerns at both tackles, they may end up with Spitz at LG and Lang backing up at both tackles, with Barbre and Breno. My main point is that I think Colledge is the worst of the group and is at best an emergency fill-in off the bench, but am still holding hope that either Barbre or Breno could emerge as a legit NFL tackle. If Thompson can hit on one decent OL in the draft, the line could be in decent position to transition out of the Clifton/Tauscher era after next year.

Someone needs to explain this to me. I've played football and know the sport quite well, but I just don't get why Lang looked decent at LT when needed this past year......but then was projected better to RT because of his t-rex arms......and now it's being said that he projects better to guard? I don't understand this.....please help me understand. Why is it that guard seems to be a consollation prize for guys that couldn't cut it at tackle?

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Signing Clifton and Tauscher makes me think there is no chance they'll spend a 1st round pick on OT this year.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

I agree with this for sure. There is some depth at tackle for sure in this draft, so they might find a decent long term answer in the second or even third. In true Thompson style, I don't think he'll reach for need, especially with both Clifton and Tauscher signed to deals.

OL will be extremely interesting this year in the draft and through training camp. I would love to get up there one day during camp to watch these guys compete. I think Colledge has been given every opportunity and has proven that he is not an NFL player. I would like to see Lang take over at RG, but I think given Scott Wells excellent play last season we almost want to keep him at C and put Spitz at RG. In either case, the interior positions are solid with starters and back-ups. I am a hopeless homer in many ways, so am still holding out some hope that there is a reason they have kept Breno around for so long, and even that Barbre may be able to rebound from a terrible season and show us what it is the coaches see in him.

Actually Josh Sitton has RG all locked up. He was probably their most consistent O lineman last year. I think Spitz and Colledge battle for LG, Wells Center. So left to right, Clifton, Spitz/Colledge, Wells, Sitton, Tausher.After that, hard to say.

that was a typo. I think long term, Lang is the answer at LG with Spitz at C and Sitton RG. However, for next season, with Wells playing well and health concerns at both tackles, they may end up with Spitz at LG and Lang backing up at both tackles, with Barbre and Breno. My main point is that I think Colledge is the worst of the group and is at best an emergency fill-in off the bench, but am still holding hope that either Barbre or Breno could emerge as a legit NFL tackle. If Thompson can hit on one decent OL in the draft, the line could be in decent position to transition out of the Clifton/Tauscher era after next year.

Someone needs to explain this to me. I've played football and know the sport quite well, but I just don't get why Lang looked decent at LT when needed this past year......but then was projected better to RT because of his t-rex arms......and now it's being said that he projects better to guard? I don't understand this.....please help me understand. Why is it that guard seems to be a consollation prize for guys that couldn't cut it at tackle?

I think tackle requires a better athlete. Lang may be a good tackle - I really have no idea. I'm pretty sure he will be competing for the backup job behind Clifton this year. I think he's a guard long term based on what I've read and how he looks. He reminds me a bit of Mike Walhe, who also failed miserably at both tackle positions before becoming a great guard. He's tough, won't be intimidated and a bit nasty, but I don't think he looks like a tackle.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Signing Clifton and Tauscher makes me think there is no chance they'll spend a 1st round pick on OT this year.

B/c 33 year old OT's give teams such great support and confidence for the future?

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

I mean those guys are clearly the starters.

And whether or not anyone agrees, they think they have other guys who can start.

2nd round and later, all bets are off. But I don't see them picking a lineman in the 1st.

 

[Aaronstory]

I mean those guys are clearly the starters.And whether or not anyone agrees, they think they have other guys who can start.2nd round and later, all bets are off. But I don't see them picking a lineman in the 1st.

Outside of a quarterback (and even then) nothing would surprise me.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Signing Clifton and Tauscher makes me think there is no chance they'll spend a 1st round pick on OT this year.

B/c 33 year old OT's give teams such great support and confidence for the future?

I'm thinking it's more because by pick 23 there may be 5-6 OT's off the board and there may be more blue chippers at other positions. I'd assume TT would still pick an OL or 2. If he doesn't the FireTedThompsonNow guys will be happy.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Signing Clifton and Tauscher makes me think there is no chance they'll spend a 1st round pick on OT this year.

B/c 33 year old OT's give teams such great support and confidence for the future?

I'm thinking it's more because by pick 23 there may be 5-6 OT's off the board and there may be more blue chippers at other positions. I'd assume TT would still pick an OL or 2. If he doesn't the FireTedThompsonNow guys will be happy.

I'm not a huge believer outside of the top 4 OT's in this class. But good news for GB fans....is some them have good potential...just need a little seasoning(put on weight, etc). So they could draft one and sit him for a year.

 

[cr8f]

Signing Clifton and Tauscher makes me think there is no chance they'll spend a 1st round pick on OT this year.

Ted could give up picks and move up again.He could grab Iupati and groom him.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

The more I think about the Packers, the more I think Jahvid Best is an ideal fit for them in the first round.

He is a great fit in the zone blocking scheme.

He gives a huge speed element that the offense doesn't have(Jennings is probably the fastest at a mid 4.4).

He is immediately the 3rd down RB....great hands.

He is immediately the return man...so no worries about Will Blackmon coming back from injury.

He has no character concerns.

He is hands down the most creative runner in this draft.

Gives Rodgers yet another weapon at his disposal.....which would help his development(think if Tom Brady never had Kevin Faulk...his career wouldn't be the same IMO).

 

[Sabertooth]

The more I think about the Packers, the more I think Jahvid Best is an ideal fit for them in the first round.He is a great fit in the zone blocking scheme.He gives a huge speed element that the offense doesn't have(Jennings is probably the fastest at a mid 4.4).He is immediately the 3rd down RB....great hands.He is immediately the return man...so no worries about Will Blackmon coming back from injury.He has no character concerns.He is hands down the most creative runner in this draft.Gives Rodgers yet another weapon at his disposal.....which would help his development(think if Tom Brady never had Kevin Faulk...his career wouldn't be the same IMO).

I've thought this for a while. I think they will have the choice between Spiller and Best. I'd applaud the pick of either, but there is no way to know what the Packers will do there.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

I think long term, Lang is the answer at LG with Spitz at C and Sitton RG. However, for next season, with Wells playing well and health concerns at both tackles, they may end up with Spitz at LG and Lang backing up at both tackles, with Barbre and Breno. My main point is that I think Colledge is the worst of the group and is at best an emergency fill-in off the bench, but am still holding hope that either Barbre or Breno could emerge as a legit NFL tackle. If Thompson can hit on one decent OL in the draft, the line could be in decent position to transition out of the Clifton/Tauscher era after next year.

Someone needs to explain this to me. I've played football and know the sport quite well, but I just don't get why Lang looked decent at LT when needed this past year......but then was projected better to RT because of his t-rex arms......and now it's being said that he projects better to guard? I don't understand this.....please help me understand. Why is it that guard seems to be a consollation prize for guys that couldn't cut it at tackle?

I think tackle requires a better athlete. Lang may be a good tackle - I really have no idea. I'm pretty sure he will be competing for the backup job behind Clifton this year. I think he's a guard long term based on what I've read and how he looks. He reminds me a bit of Mike Walhe, who also failed miserably at both tackle positions before becoming a great guard. He's tough, won't be intimidated and a bit nasty, but I don't think he looks like a tackle.

McCarthy had a few (typically vague) comments on this topic in his interview earlier today:

Where he envisions T.J. Lang playing this year: "There’s a difference in opinion there. I think T.J.’s long-term, this is just me personally, Joe Philbin, James Campen and Jerry Fontenot, we go round and round about it, I think T.J.’s long-term is at guard. I think he’s a natural left guard, when I look at his body. But he is young. He needs to develops strength to hit that. He is a very young second-year player. There’s a lot of room for development. But you can’t argue with the fact that he’s a more natural tackle because that’s where he has played. He feels more natural at tackle because that’s where he has played. I definitely feel he could play right tackle today if he had to. And I think he’s done a solid job at subbing in there at LT when needed."

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/packers.html

 

[Sabertooth]

You can never have enough big guys. McCarthy and THompson have beat that drum since the onset. I would be mildly surprised if we didn't take a lineman within our first 3 picks.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

McCarthy had a few (typically vague) comments on this topic in his interview earlier today:

Where he envisions T.J. Lang playing this year: "There’s a difference in opinion there. I think T.J.’s long-term, this is just me personally, Joe Philbin, James Campen and Jerry Fontenot, we go round and round about it, I think T.J.’s long-term is at guard. I think he’s a natural left guard, when I look at his body. But he is young. He needs to develops strength to hit that. He is a very young second-year player. There’s a lot of room for development. But you can’t argue with the fact that he’s a more natural tackle because that’s where he has played. He feels more natural at tackle because that’s where he has played. I definitely feel he could play right tackle today if he had to. And I think he’s done a solid job at subbing in there at LT when needed."

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/packers.html

It annoys me a bit that McCarthy and co. are constantly switching around O-linemen to different positions. Spitz, Colledge, Lang......should it really take this long to figure out where Lang "best fits long-term"? I mean really, these guys are experienced coaches. Make a decision already. And stick with it.

 

[sho nuff]

McCarthy had a few (typically vague) comments on this topic in his interview earlier today:

Where he envisions T.J. Lang playing this year: "There’s a difference in opinion there. I think T.J.’s long-term, this is just me personally, Joe Philbin, James Campen and Jerry Fontenot, we go round and round about it, I think T.J.’s long-term is at guard. I think he’s a natural left guard, when I look at his body. But he is young. He needs to develops strength to hit that. He is a very young second-year player. There’s a lot of room for development. But you can’t argue with the fact that he’s a more natural tackle because that’s where he has played. He feels more natural at tackle because that’s where he has played. I definitely feel he could play right tackle today if he had to. And I think he’s done a solid job at subbing in there at LT when needed."

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/packers.html

It annoys me a bit that McCarthy and co. are constantly switching around O-linemen to different positions. Spitz, Colledge, Lang......should it really take this long to figure out where Lang "best fits long-term"? I mean really, these guys are experienced coaches. Make a decision already. And stick with it.

Id agree with that about Colledge. Spitz has moved around more out of necessity. He was better than Wells at Center and needed to move Sitton into the lineup. When he was hurt and Wells played so well and Colledge stunk, they want to put Spitz out there at LG. Does not seem like a big deal there for me with him.Same for Lang. He was a rookie. They want to see where he will really fit (or be needed first) and keep their options open with him. Why the rush with a 2nd year guy?

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

McCarthy had a few (typically vague) comments on this topic in his interview earlier today:

Where he envisions T.J. Lang playing this year: "There’s a difference in opinion there. I think T.J.’s long-term, this is just me personally, Joe Philbin, James Campen and Jerry Fontenot, we go round and round about it, I think T.J.’s long-term is at guard. I think he’s a natural left guard, when I look at his body. But he is young. He needs to develops strength to hit that. He is a very young second-year player. There’s a lot of room for development. But you can’t argue with the fact that he’s a more natural tackle because that’s where he has played. He feels more natural at tackle because that’s where he has played. I definitely feel he could play right tackle today if he had to. And I think he’s done a solid job at subbing in there at LT when needed."

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/packers.html

It annoys me a bit that McCarthy and co. are constantly switching around O-linemen to different positions. Spitz, Colledge, Lang......should it really take this long to figure out where Lang "best fits long-term"? I mean really, these guys are experienced coaches. Make a decision already. And stick with it.

Id agree with that about Colledge. Spitz has moved around more out of necessity. He was better than Wells at Center and needed to move Sitton into the lineup. When he was hurt and Wells played so well and Colledge stunk, they want to put Spitz out there at LG. Does not seem like a big deal there for me with him.Same for Lang. He was a rookie. They want to see where he will really fit (or be needed first) and keep their options open with him. Why the rush with a 2nd year guy?

It's certainly possible that I'm being unfair.....it seems like young OL players need time to gain comfort with the offense AND get reps at their position to develop quickly. My hunch is that we delay their development by moving them around constantly. I get that Lang played OT out of necessity -- my concern with him is that McCarthy still seems uncertain about where he fits. Dude, you had an entire season!! Figure the #### out! On Spitz - fair enough, he might just be so versatile and superior to Colledge that we were almost forced to keep moving him. Colledge, IMO, is a warning sign for Lang - we took way too long to figure out where he fits....if he had been at G the whole time, the poor guy might be a better player now.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I wonder if the TJ Lang at LG remark has something to do with Colledge and Spitz not showing up for Offseason Workouts?

 

[FunkyPlutos]

Sorry to jump into the Packers thread, but I just saw that the Vikings have brought in Mike Montgomery in for a FA visit and I don't know anything about the guy. Wondered what you guys thought of him? Decent backup or just not much?

 

[sho nuff]

Sorry to jump into the Packers thread, but I just saw that the Vikings have brought in Mike Montgomery in for a FA visit and I don't know anything about the guy. Wondered what you guys thought of him? Decent backup or just not much?

Hard to say...he did not really play all that much...often injured.And never was a fit anywhere in the 3-4...I don't think he played all that much last year either.

Here is the blurbs from the Packer website's weekly updated bio from last year...then his bio from previous years in the link.

96 Michael Montgomery, DE, 5th Year, Texas A&M

2009 SEASON: Saw limited action on defense in 10 games and recorded

two tackles (both solo)...Inactive at St. Louis (Sept. 27), at Minnesota (Oct.

5), vs. San Francisco (Nov. 22), vs. Baltimore (Dec. 7), at Pittsburgh (Dec.

20), and at Arizona (Jan. 10) in Wild Card playoff.....Also inactive in season

finale at Arizona (Jan. 3) due to ankle injury suffered in previous game vs.

Seattle (Dec. 27).

? vs. Chicago (9/13): Saw time at end and as a down lineman in nickel

and was credited with a QB hit.

? vs. Cincinnati (9/20): Brought down RB Cedric Benson for a 2-yard

loss after Benson recovered a fumble on a bad exchange with QB Carson

Palmer.

? vs. Detroit (10/18): Saw limited action on defense.

? vs. Minnesota (11/1): Saw time on special teams.

? at Tampa Bay (11/8): Saw limited action on defense and was credited

with a QB pressure.

? vs. Seattle (12/27): Saw limited action on defense and registered

one solo tackle and a QB hit.

http://www.packers.com/pdfs/Montgomery08.pdf

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Sorry to jump into the Packers thread, but I just saw that the Vikings have brought in Mike Montgomery in for a FA visit and I don't know anything about the guy. Wondered what you guys thought of him? Decent backup or just not much?

http://www.nfl.com/players/mikemontgomery/...le?id=MON607346He was on the team 5 years, started 8 games in '08, never really made much of an impact. Had a few moments where he flashed something, but those moments were few & far between.

 

[jurrassic]

This thread has been in hibernation. So let's get your predictions for their pick tonight. I'm hoping they wait on the OT until the 2nd or 3rd round, primarily because I think they have a big hole at OLB right now and I want a player that can come in and produce right away.

If they don't go OT, stay at 23 and the draft falls as most expect I think it will be between OLB's Kindle, Hughes and DB Kareem Jackson. I think they will take Kyle Wilson if he falls.

If Spiller, Matthews, or Bryant are there, I think TT is going to have a very hard time either not taking them or trading back. Same goes for Clausen but that is strictly a trade back situation.

I really think with the continued transition the 3-4, the empahsis on linebackers (similar to wr on the offensive end) and the success TT had last year in taking Matthews, that he will draft an OLB in the first round. I get the feeling linebacker is going to be the new wr for him where he takes 1-2 every year moving forward.

Guys I don't want:

Taylor Mays-I would much rather hope Nate Allen is there in the second. I know Mays has all the measurables but he has bust written all over him to me. He can't track the deep ball in coverage. This team needs a SS that can cover.

Bryan Bulaga-He's falling on alot of draft boards. The Packers don't need another tweener guard/RT and that is exactly what he is.

Wild cards:

Javid Best-This cat is dynamic as hell. He has a long injury history but he could give the Packers alot on both the offensive and special teams side of the ball. I don't think it will happen but I wouldn't mind it.

 

[sho nuff]

This thread has been in hibernation. So let's get your predictions for their pick tonight. I'm hoping they wait on the OT until the 2nd or 3rd round, primarily because I think they have a big hole at OLB right now and I want a player that can come in and produce right away.If they don't go OT, stay at 23 and the draft falls as most expect I think it will be between OLB's Kindle, Hughes and DB Kareem Jackson. I think they will take Kyle Wilson if he falls. If Spiller, Matthews, or Bryant are there, I think TT is going to have a very hard time either not taking them or trading back. Same goes for Clausen but that is strictly a trade back situation.I really think with the continued transition the 3-4, the empahsis on linebackers (similar to wr on the offensive end) and the success TT had last year in taking Matthews, that he will draft an OLB in the first round. I get the feeling linebacker is going to be the new wr for him where he takes 1-2 every year moving forward. Guys I don't want: Taylor Mays-I would much rather hope Nate Allen is there in the second. I know Mays has all the measurables but he has bust written all over him to me. He can't track the deep ball in coverage. This team needs a SS that can cover. Bryan Bulaga-He's falling on alot of draft boards. The Packers don't need another tweener guard/RT and that is exactly what he is.Wild cards:Javid Best-This cat is dynamic as hell. He has a long injury history but he could give the Packers alot on both the offensive and special teams side of the ball. I don't think it will happen but I wouldn't mind it.

Agreeing with you on most of this...though, IMO I want a corner more than an LB unless its Graham. Either Wilson or McCourty is who I am really hoping for.Agree with you on Mays...but not Baluga...if he is there at 23...give him to us and Id be fine with that.Best...I like his upside...but that injury history scares the crap out of me. If we don't get Wilson or McCourty...Id love McCluster in the 2nd.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

This thread has been in hibernation. So let's get your predictions for their pick tonight. I'm hoping they wait on the OT until the 2nd or 3rd round, primarily because I think they have a big hole at OLB right now and I want a player that can come in and produce right away.If they don't go OT, stay at 23 and the draft falls as most expect I think it will be between OLB's Kindle, Hughes and DB Kareem Jackson. I think they will take Kyle Wilson if he falls. If Spiller, Matthews, or Bryant are there, I think TT is going to have a very hard time either not taking them or trading back. Same goes for Clausen but that is strictly a trade back situation.I really think with the continued transition the 3-4, the empahsis on linebackers (similar to wr on the offensive end) and the success TT had last year in taking Matthews, that he will draft an OLB in the first round. I get the feeling linebacker is going to be the new wr for him where he takes 1-2 every year moving forward. Guys I don't want: Taylor Mays-I would much rather hope Nate Allen is there in the second. I know Mays has all the measurables but he has bust written all over him to me. He can't track the deep ball in coverage. This team needs a SS that can cover. Bryan Bulaga-He's falling on alot of draft boards. The Packers don't need another tweener guard/RT and that is exactly what he is.Wild cards:Javid Best-This cat is dynamic as hell. He has a long injury history but he could give the Packers alot on both the offensive and special teams side of the ball. I don't think it will happen but I wouldn't mind it.

Agreeing with you on most of this...though, IMO I want a corner more than an LB unless its Graham. Either Wilson or McCourty is who I am really hoping for.Agree with you on Mays...but not Baluga...if he is there at 23...give him to us and Id be fine with that.Best...I like his upside...but that injury history scares the crap out of me. If we don't get Wilson or McCourty...Id love McCluster in the 2nd.

Why CB? What kind of impact could CB make this year? The biggest impact this year would be an addition of a threat across from Clay Jr. Graham, Hughes, Kindle.....whoever. If they get a guy that can make the kind of impact that Clay did, it could put the Packers over for the division. I'm not kidding.

 

[jurrassic]

This thread has been in hibernation. So let's get your predictions for their pick tonight. I'm hoping they wait on the OT until the 2nd or 3rd round, primarily because I think they have a big hole at OLB right now and I want a player that can come in and produce right away.If they don't go OT, stay at 23 and the draft falls as most expect I think it will be between OLB's Kindle, Hughes and DB Kareem Jackson. I think they will take Kyle Wilson if he falls. If Spiller, Matthews, or Bryant are there, I think TT is going to have a very hard time either not taking them or trading back. Same goes for Clausen but that is strictly a trade back situation.I really think with the continued transition the 3-4, the empahsis on linebackers (similar to wr on the offensive end) and the success TT had last year in taking Matthews, that he will draft an OLB in the first round. I get the feeling linebacker is going to be the new wr for him where he takes 1-2 every year moving forward. Guys I don't want: Taylor Mays-I would much rather hope Nate Allen is there in the second. I know Mays has all the measurables but he has bust written all over him to me. He can't track the deep ball in coverage. This team needs a SS that can cover. Bryan Bulaga-He's falling on alot of draft boards. The Packers don't need another tweener guard/RT and that is exactly what he is.Wild cards:Javid Best-This cat is dynamic as hell. He has a long injury history but he could give the Packers alot on both the offensive and special teams side of the ball. I don't think it will happen but I wouldn't mind it.

Agreeing with you on most of this...though, IMO I want a corner more than an LB unless its Graham. Either Wilson or McCourty is who I am really hoping for.Agree with you on Mays...but not Baluga...if he is there at 23...give him to us and Id be fine with that.Best...I like his upside...but that injury history scares the crap out of me. If we don't get Wilson or McCourty...Id love McCluster in the 2nd.

I just worry Bulaga is going to be nothing more than a guard/RT. The Packers are loaded with those guys right now. If they do take him, I hope they work to unload some of the players they have. Maybe he is their future RT, Lang moves to guard, and Colledge and possibly Spitz or Wells are on their way out.I am hoping for either a OLB or DB. I like Wilson, Jackson, and McCourty but wouldn't mind Cook in the second.

 

[sho nuff]

This thread has been in hibernation. So let's get your predictions for their pick tonight. I'm hoping they wait on the OT until the 2nd or 3rd round, primarily because I think they have a big hole at OLB right now and I want a player that can come in and produce right away.If they don't go OT, stay at 23 and the draft falls as most expect I think it will be between OLB's Kindle, Hughes and DB Kareem Jackson. I think they will take Kyle Wilson if he falls. If Spiller, Matthews, or Bryant are there, I think TT is going to have a very hard time either not taking them or trading back. Same goes for Clausen but that is strictly a trade back situation.I really think with the continued transition the 3-4, the empahsis on linebackers (similar to wr on the offensive end) and the success TT had last year in taking Matthews, that he will draft an OLB in the first round. I get the feeling linebacker is going to be the new wr for him where he takes 1-2 every year moving forward. Guys I don't want: Taylor Mays-I would much rather hope Nate Allen is there in the second. I know Mays has all the measurables but he has bust written all over him to me. He can't track the deep ball in coverage. This team needs a SS that can cover. Bryan Bulaga-He's falling on alot of draft boards. The Packers don't need another tweener guard/RT and that is exactly what he is.Wild cards:Javid Best-This cat is dynamic as hell. He has a long injury history but he could give the Packers alot on both the offensive and special teams side of the ball. I don't think it will happen but I wouldn't mind it.

Agreeing with you on most of this...though, IMO I want a corner more than an LB unless its Graham. Either Wilson or McCourty is who I am really hoping for.Agree with you on Mays...but not Baluga...if he is there at 23...give him to us and Id be fine with that.Best...I like his upside...but that injury history scares the crap out of me. If we don't get Wilson or McCourty...Id love McCluster in the 2nd.

Why CB? What kind of impact could CB make this year? The biggest impact this year would be an addition of a threat across from Clay Jr. Graham, Hughes, Kindle.....whoever. If they get a guy that can make the kind of impact that Clay did, it could put the Packers over for the division. I'm not kidding.

Not just a CB...but both who can come right in and play CB and add in the return game.Because Charles and Al are not getting any younger. Tramon is ok, but not great, and the others have yet to be able to stay on the field other than the one guy I wish would get hurt (Bush...ok, I don't truely wish for an injury, just for him to get cut).And I think there are other OLBs out there in the 2nd/3rd that would work out quite well. I like Graham a lot...but the others I would rather have the CB.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

This thread has been in hibernation. So let's get your predictions for their pick tonight. I'm hoping they wait on the OT until the 2nd or 3rd round, primarily because I think they have a big hole at OLB right now and I want a player that can come in and produce right away.If they don't go OT, stay at 23 and the draft falls as most expect I think it will be between OLB's Kindle, Hughes and DB Kareem Jackson. I think they will take Kyle Wilson if he falls. If Spiller, Matthews, or Bryant are there, I think TT is going to have a very hard time either not taking them or trading back. Same goes for Clausen but that is strictly a trade back situation.I really think with the continued transition the 3-4, the empahsis on linebackers (similar to wr on the offensive end) and the success TT had last year in taking Matthews, that he will draft an OLB in the first round. I get the feeling linebacker is going to be the new wr for him where he takes 1-2 every year moving forward. Guys I don't want: Taylor Mays-I would much rather hope Nate Allen is there in the second. I know Mays has all the measurables but he has bust written all over him to me. He can't track the deep ball in coverage. This team needs a SS that can cover. Bryan Bulaga-He's falling on alot of draft boards. The Packers don't need another tweener guard/RT and that is exactly what he is.Wild cards:Javid Best-This cat is dynamic as hell. He has a long injury history but he could give the Packers alot on both the offensive and special teams side of the ball. I don't think it will happen but I wouldn't mind it.

Agreeing with you on most of this...though, IMO I want a corner more than an LB unless its Graham. Either Wilson or McCourty is who I am really hoping for.Agree with you on Mays...but not Baluga...if he is there at 23...give him to us and Id be fine with that.Best...I like his upside...but that injury history scares the crap out of me. If we don't get Wilson or McCourty...Id love McCluster in the 2nd.

Why CB? What kind of impact could CB make this year? The biggest impact this year would be an addition of a threat across from Clay Jr. Graham, Hughes, Kindle.....whoever. If they get a guy that can make the kind of impact that Clay did, it could put the Packers over for the division. I'm not kidding.

We have no idea what Al Harris will look like this year, returning from a major injury, at age 35, playing a position that requires athleticism (which frankly he didn't have extra to burn in the first place). So drafting a top-notch CB could pay dividends immediately - depending on the health of Harris.Additionally, TT has claimed that he will draft best player available. That the mistakes he's seen in past drafts often came when teams drafted based on need.

 

[VTjkru]

This thread has been in hibernation. So let's get your predictions for their pick tonight. I'm hoping they wait on the OT until the 2nd or 3rd round, primarily because I think they have a big hole at OLB right now and I want a player that can come in and produce right away.If they don't go OT, stay at 23 and the draft falls as most expect I think it will be between OLB's Kindle, Hughes and DB Kareem Jackson. I think they will take Kyle Wilson if he falls. If Spiller, Matthews, or Bryant are there, I think TT is going to have a very hard time either not taking them or trading back. Same goes for Clausen but that is strictly a trade back situation.I really think with the continued transition the 3-4, the empahsis on linebackers (similar to wr on the offensive end) and the success TT had last year in taking Matthews, that he will draft an OLB in the first round. I get the feeling linebacker is going to be the new wr for him where he takes 1-2 every year moving forward. Guys I don't want: Taylor Mays-I would much rather hope Nate Allen is there in the second. I know Mays has all the measurables but he has bust written all over him to me. He can't track the deep ball in coverage. This team needs a SS that can cover. Bryan Bulaga-He's falling on alot of draft boards. The Packers don't need another tweener guard/RT and that is exactly what he is.Wild cards:Javid Best-This cat is dynamic as hell. He has a long injury history but he could give the Packers alot on both the offensive and special teams side of the ball. I don't think it will happen but I wouldn't mind it.

Agreeing with you on most of this...though, IMO I want a corner more than an LB unless its Graham. Either Wilson or McCourty is who I am really hoping for.Agree with you on Mays...but not Baluga...if he is there at 23...give him to us and Id be fine with that.Best...I like his upside...but that injury history scares the crap out of me. If we don't get Wilson or McCourty...Id love McCluster in the 2nd.

Why CB? What kind of impact could CB make this year? The biggest impact this year would be an addition of a threat across from Clay Jr. Graham, Hughes, Kindle.....whoever. If they get a guy that can make the kind of impact that Clay did, it could put the Packers over for the division. I'm not kidding.

An elite pass rush can make an old CB coming off an injury a pro bowler again.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

This thread has been in hibernation. So let's get your predictions for their pick tonight. I'm hoping they wait on the OT until the 2nd or 3rd round, primarily because I think they have a big hole at OLB right now and I want a player that can come in and produce right away.If they don't go OT, stay at 23 and the draft falls as most expect I think it will be between OLB's Kindle, Hughes and DB Kareem Jackson. I think they will take Kyle Wilson if he falls. If Spiller, Matthews, or Bryant are there, I think TT is going to have a very hard time either not taking them or trading back. Same goes for Clausen but that is strictly a trade back situation.I really think with the continued transition the 3-4, the empahsis on linebackers (similar to wr on the offensive end) and the success TT had last year in taking Matthews, that he will draft an OLB in the first round. I get the feeling linebacker is going to be the new wr for him where he takes 1-2 every year moving forward. Guys I don't want: Taylor Mays-I would much rather hope Nate Allen is there in the second. I know Mays has all the measurables but he has bust written all over him to me. He can't track the deep ball in coverage. This team needs a SS that can cover. Bryan Bulaga-He's falling on alot of draft boards. The Packers don't need another tweener guard/RT and that is exactly what he is.Wild cards:Javid Best-This cat is dynamic as hell. He has a long injury history but he could give the Packers alot on both the offensive and special teams side of the ball. I don't think it will happen but I wouldn't mind it.

Agreeing with you on most of this...though, IMO I want a corner more than an LB unless its Graham. Either Wilson or McCourty is who I am really hoping for.Agree with you on Mays...but not Baluga...if he is there at 23...give him to us and Id be fine with that.Best...I like his upside...but that injury history scares the crap out of me. If we don't get Wilson or McCourty...Id love McCluster in the 2nd.

Why CB? What kind of impact could CB make this year? The biggest impact this year would be an addition of a threat across from Clay Jr. Graham, Hughes, Kindle.....whoever. If they get a guy that can make the kind of impact that Clay did, it could put the Packers over for the division. I'm not kidding.

We have no idea what Al Harris will look like this year, returning from a major injury, at age 35, playing a position that requires athleticism (which frankly he didn't have extra to burn in the first place). So drafting a top-notch CB could pay dividends immediately - depending on the health of Harris.Additionally, TT has claimed that he will draft best player available. That the mistakes he's seen in past drafts often came when teams drafted based on need.

Didn't you just make a case for a cornerback need in the draft?BPA at 23 could be Dez Bryant or Mays if they fall. Depends on TT's board I guess. And we know TT's board doesn't typically follow Mel or McGay's boards.

 

[Pipes]

This thread has been in hibernation. So let's get your predictions for their pick tonight. I'm hoping they wait on the OT until the 2nd or 3rd round, primarily because I think they have a big hole at OLB right now and I want a player that can come in and produce right away.If they don't go OT, stay at 23 and the draft falls as most expect I think it will be between OLB's Kindle, Hughes and DB Kareem Jackson. I think they will take Kyle Wilson if he falls. If Spiller, Matthews, or Bryant are there, I think TT is going to have a very hard time either not taking them or trading back. Same goes for Clausen but that is strictly a trade back situation.I really think with the continued transition the 3-4, the empahsis on linebackers (similar to wr on the offensive end) and the success TT had last year in taking Matthews, that he will draft an OLB in the first round. I get the feeling linebacker is going to be the new wr for him where he takes 1-2 every year moving forward. Guys I don't want: Taylor Mays-I would much rather hope Nate Allen is there in the second. I know Mays has all the measurables but he has bust written all over him to me. He can't track the deep ball in coverage. This team needs a SS that can cover. Bryan Bulaga-He's falling on alot of draft boards. The Packers don't need another tweener guard/RT and that is exactly what he is.Wild cards:Javid Best-This cat is dynamic as hell. He has a long injury history but he could give the Packers alot on both the offensive and special teams side of the ball. I don't think it will happen but I wouldn't mind it.

Agreeing with you on most of this...though, IMO I want a corner more than an LB unless its Graham. Either Wilson or McCourty is who I am really hoping for.Agree with you on Mays...but not Baluga...if he is there at 23...give him to us and Id be fine with that.Best...I like his upside...but that injury history scares the crap out of me. If we don't get Wilson or McCourty...Id love McCluster in the 2nd.

Why CB? What kind of impact could CB make this year? The biggest impact this year would be an addition of a threat across from Clay Jr. Graham, Hughes, Kindle.....whoever. If they get a guy that can make the kind of impact that Clay did, it could put the Packers over for the division. I'm not kidding.

CB is a huge need this year. There is a good chance Harris will not be ready to start the season. Pat Lee is soft and will likely to be injured in camp and Jarrett Bush is Jarrett Bush...I don't need to go any further on him. That leaves Woodson and Williams. In today's age of 3 and 4 WR sets 2 good, healthy CB's just isn't enough. It may not be the highest priority but it should be a high one.I'm torn on who I want in the 1st. I love Hughes and think he'd look great opposite of Matthews but I'd also like them to spend a mid round pick on Schofield who eventually could start opposite of Clay. If GB goes the Hughes route then either the Online or Secondary wouldn't be addressed until the 3rd. Something like 1st....Charles Brown, 2nd...Morgan Burnett...3rd Owusu-Ansu and then OB at some point in the 5th. I would be extremely happy with a draft like this.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Didn't you just make a case for a cornerback need in the draft?

What is your point?

BPA at 23 could be Dez Bryant or Mays if they fall. Depends on TT's board I guess. And we know TT's board doesn't typically follow Mel or McGay's boards.

Sure. That's fine. If Dez is there, and we trade back, cool. Or if he's there and we pick him as BPA, that's cool too. I would love to see Dez on this team.

 

[ookook]

It seems to me that they are likely to go OLB in the first in CB in the 2nd.

Although my preference might be the reverse, I don't see a DB falling to the 23rd pick worth spending first pick on.

So I am betting it is Kindle or Hughes.

My personal preference would be for them to move up and take Wilson if he is still there at 17 or 18, but don't really see that happening.

Who might be there for CB or S in the 2nd at 56th?

 

[jurrassic]

It seems to me that they are likely to go OLB in the first in CB in the 2nd. Although my preference might be the reverse, I don't see a DB falling to the 23rd pick worth spending first pick on.So I am betting it is Kindle or Hughes.My personal preference would be for them to move up and take Wilson if he is still there at 17 or 18, but don't really see that happening. Who might be there for CB or S in the 2nd at 56th?

They are widely reported to like Chris Cook, who is the tallest cb in the draft at 6'2" I don't know if he will be there at their pick in round 2. Nate Allen is a safety out of South Florida who is damn good.

 

[Kleck]

Here's a potential small-school, "who is Ted thinking" pick I'll throw out as a potential 2nd/3rd round guy.

Akwasi Owusu-Ansah from IUP

CB/PR/KR

6' 1", 207

4.31 40 at his Pro Day

29.7 yards per kickoff, 12.5 yards per punt returns and 5 total SP TDs.

 

[griz145389]

I can't believe we didn't try to sign Lito Shepard. AT the price the Vikings picked him up for, it would have been a great deal for Green Bay. We simply can not count on Harris being ready for the season. Having Shepard would have given us a solid nickle back at the very least. Hopefully we are able to fill all our holes through the draft since Ted seems unwilling once again to sign any free agents.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

I can't believe we didn't try to sign Lito Shepard. AT the price the Vikings picked him up for, it would have been a great deal for Green Bay. We simply can not count on Harris being ready for the season. Having Shepard would have given us a solid nickle back at the very least. Hopefully we are able to fill all our holes through the draft since Ted seems unwilling once again to sign any free agents.

How do you know that TT didn't try to sign him?

 

[Kleck]

I'm pretty meh on Shepard. We already have a soft CB in Bush, and two Bushs is more than any one team's fans can handle.

 

[sho nuff]

I can't believe we didn't try to sign Lito Shepard. AT the price the Vikings picked him up for, it would have been a great deal for Green Bay. We simply can not count on Harris being ready for the season. Having Shepard would have given us a solid nickle back at the very least. Hopefully we are able to fill all our holes through the draft since Ted seems unwilling once again to sign any free agents.

I thought so when he was available it might help.But just a stop gap really.He is not a great cover corner...would be a depth only veteran and his best days are likely behind him (that from Philly and Jets fans if you trust the opinions of those that are nowhere near sad that he is not on their rosters).But do we need another older corner?

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

The Packer's corners are old and injured, if excellent. They need help there.

Certainly a pass rusher is always helpful.

Here's the thing, Clifton and Tauscher are old and injured, if healthier now than they have been in two years. Potentially, in addition to the Williams Wall, Jared Allen and Chicago's addition of Peppers they will be looking at Suh for two games a year and now there are rumors also of Haynesworth. Rogers being the franschise they have to protect him.

 

[sho nuff]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/91783214.html

McGinn does not think they will go corner in round one.

Interesting.

Though, as I have said, I would not complain if Hughes is the pick.