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Shanahan appears headed to Redskins! (1 Viewer)

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Shanahan appears headed to Redskins

By Mike Klis

The Denver Post

Former Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan has been in discussions to become the Washington Redskins' next head coach, according to two NFL sources.

The two sides still have some issues to work through, however, before an agreement is reached. The 4-9 Redskins long have been eliminated from playoff contention and have three games remaining with coach Jim Zorn.

Redskins owner Daniel Snyder began housecleaning Wednesday with Bruce Allen replacing Vinny Cerrato as general manager. One NFL source said that when Shanahan spoke with the Buffalo Bills last month about their new front-office/coaching openings, Allen was to be included in the package there.

The Allen-Shanahan partnership appears ready to take control of the struggling, but tradition-rich franchise in the nation's capital.

Shanahan was the Broncos' coach for 14 seasons, winning back-to-back Super Bowls in 1997-98, until he was fired after his third consecutive non-playoff appearance last season.

Allen was Tampa Bay's GM for five seasons until he was fired after last season.

At first glance, the Redskins' GM change Wednesday seemed to hurt Shanahan's chances of becoming the head coach there because he had a close relationship with Cerrato dating back to their days with the San Francisco 49ers. Allen, meanwhile, was well-connected to former coach Jon Gruden for several years in Tampa Bay.

But Allen and Shanahan also have formed a strong relationship over the years. For starters, they may have shared some horror stories of Oakland Raiders' owner Al Davis. Shanahan was fired as head coach by Davis four games into the 1989 season. Allen, son of the late legendary head coach George Allen, worked in the Raiders' front office from 1995-2003.

Shanahan's son Kyle also got his NFL assistant coaching start with Allen and Gruden at Tampa Bay in 2004-05.

After the 2006 season, Shanahan sent disgruntled quarterback Jake Plummer to Tampa Bay for a seventh-round draft pick (which turned out to be Peyton Hillis) even though Plummer already had announced his retirement.

Tampa Bay agreed to the deal, however, in part because Allen and Gruden thought they could talk Plummer out of retirement, but also because they could recover up to $7 million in pro-rated signing bonus back from the quarterback for retiring before the end of his contract.

Such quirky trades are never made unless the two parties have built up a strong trust with one another. Plummer stayed retired and wound up reaching a settlement that forced him to write a $3.5 million check to the Bucs.

The Broncos have reason to monitor Shanahan's situation closely. After this season, he still would have two years and close to $14 million remaining on his contract with the Broncos. Should Shanahan receive a new contract as coach of the Redskins, the Broncos would receive an offset of at least a couple million dollars from what they owe their former coach.
Bruce Allen might be the start to major changes coming. Looks like Daniel Snyder might be working to get this in place before the market gets thinner. On your mark, get set.....GO!!!
 
Not sweating the fact that Shanny headed elsewhere. He's already failed with Cutler in one place, why make it two?
:P How exactly did Shanahan fail with Cutler? He played far better under Shanahan than he has under those bozos in Chicago.
How exactly did he succeed with Cutler? It's a team sport, I'm not talking about one player here.
The team not winning doesn't mean you didn't succeed with a player, just like the team winning doesn't mean every player is a success. Jay Cutler showed great improvement in his time in Denver under Mike Shanahan. He has regressed badly in Chicago. That says a lot. Is Mario Williams a failure in Houston because they have yet to have a winning season since they drafted him? Is Laurence Maroney a success because the Patriots have a great record since drafting him?
 
Not sweating the fact that Shanny headed elsewhere. He's already failed with Cutler in one place, why make it two?
:P How exactly did Shanahan fail with Cutler? He played far better under Shanahan than he has under those bozos in Chicago.
How exactly did he succeed with Cutler? It's a team sport, I'm not talking about one player here.
The team not winning doesn't mean you didn't succeed with a player, just like the team winning doesn't mean every player is a success. Jay Cutler showed great improvement in his time in Denver under Mike Shanahan. He has regressed badly in Chicago. That says a lot. Is Mario Williams a failure in Houston because they have yet to have a winning season since they drafted him?

Is Laurence Maroney a success because the Patriots have a great record since drafting him?
Does that help?
 
Sure, but maybe you need to explain yourself a little better. If a player plays well under a coach, but the team doesn't have a winning record, the player was not a success...Is that what you are saying? Just asking. :)

 
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Rooting for ya, Redskins fans. Your fanbase deserves better. Hope the Skins close with Shanny and he turns the boat around.

 
Sure, but maybe you need to explain yourself a little better. If a player plays well under a coach, but the team doesn't have a winning record, the player was not a success...Is that what you are saying? Just asking. :)
Long story short....... Shanny failed with Cutler in a better situation (2007-2008 Broncos) than what the Bears currently are.
 
What are the chances that Kubiak gets fired and assumes the role of Offensive Coordinator for Mike Shannahan next season?

 
Sure, but maybe you need to explain yourself a little better. If a player plays well under a coach, but the team doesn't have a winning record, the player was not a success...Is that what you are saying? Just asking. :)
Long story short....... Shanny failed with Cutler in a better situation (2007-2008 Broncos) than what the Bears currently are.
Okay, I assume you mean,"Shanahan failed with Cutler as his QB," (because of the lack of a winning record)rather than,"Shanahan failed with Cutler." (meaning, Cutler was a failure as a QB under Shanny)Right?
 
Sure, but maybe you need to explain yourself a little better. If a player plays well under a coach, but the team doesn't have a winning record, the player was not a success...Is that what you are saying? Just asking. :excited:
Long story short....... Shanny failed with Cutler in a better situation (2007-2008 Broncos) than what the Bears currently are.
No, he didn't. Cutler became a Pro Bowl QB under Shanahan's coaching. Shanahan may have failed with the Broncos when Cutler was the QB, but he didn't fail with Cutler.
 
If true, Portis should come as real value next year considering many think he's done.
I don[t know about that. Portis isn't the back he was in Denver anymore, and more importantly, the Skin's O-line isn't the Bronco's O-line from back in Portis' time there. For Portis to be an impact (FF) RB next year, the O-line needs to be improved.I do think Shanny can have a very positive impact on Campbell. Campbell isn't suited for a WCO; he has a gun, but isn't really good at making quick reads and short, accurate throws. Shanny let Cutler take more 5 & 7 step drops and throw more intermediate and deep routes. Those types of routes/passes are more Campbell's strength.
 
:unsure:Lots of people in here need a refresher course on the fact that the word with can be used many different ways.
OK, Bill Clinton. You said he didn't succeed with Cutler. That CAN mean the didn't have a successful win-loss record with Cutler as his QB. However, it can also mean that he wasn't successful in making Cutler a good QB. Why didn't you say Shanny didn't succeed with Champ Bailey? Why didn't you say Shanny didn't succeed with Mike Anderson, Olandis Gary, or Clinton Portis? Because according to you, those statements would be accurate, but I'd be willing to bet that most people would call you on them, because those statements (while technically true) are mis-leading.
 
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Lots of people in here need a refresher course on the fact that the word with can be used many different ways.
OK, Bill Clinton. You said he didn't succeed with Cutler. That CAN mean the didn't have a successful win-loss record with Cutler as his QB. However, it can also mean that he wasn't successful in making Cutler a good QB. Why didn't you say Shanny didn't succeed with Champ Bailey? Why didn't you say Shanny didn't succeed with Mike Anderson, Olandis Gary, or Clinton Portis? Because according to you, those statements would be accurate, but I'd be willing to bet that most people would call you on them, because those statements (while technically true) are mis-leading.
OK Kenneth StarrAnd why didn't I mention any of those guys? Maybe because none of those guys are currently playing for the Bears

 
Shannahan = Overrated
Shannahan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zorn
 
:lmao:

Lots of people in here need a refresher course on the fact that the word with can be used many different ways.
OK, Bill Clinton. You said he didn't succeed with Cutler. That CAN mean the didn't have a successful win-loss record with Cutler as his QB. However, it can also mean that he wasn't successful in making Cutler a good QB. Why didn't you say Shanny didn't succeed with Champ Bailey? Why didn't you say Shanny didn't succeed with Mike Anderson, Olandis Gary, or Clinton Portis? Because according to you, those statements would be accurate, but I'd be willing to bet that most people would call you on them, because those statements (while technically true) are mis-leading.
OK Kenneth StarrAnd why didn't I mention any of those guys? Maybe because none of those guys are currently playing for the Bears
God you're an annoying poster.
 
If true, Portis should come as real value next year considering many think he's done.
I don[t know about that. Portis isn't the back he was in Denver anymore, and more importantly, the Skin's O-line isn't the Bronco's O-line from back in Portis' time there. For Portis to be an impact (FF) RB next year, the O-line needs to be improved.I do think Shanny can have a very positive impact on Campbell. Campbell isn't suited for a WCO; he has a gun, but isn't really good at making quick reads and short, accurate throws. Shanny let Cutler take more 5 & 7 step drops and throw more intermediate and deep routes. Those types of routes/passes are more Campbell's strength.
Campbell has improved recently on making quick reads and he's been more accurate. For some reason he struggles with slants, but he's been pretty good on everything else.
 
Rooney Rule anyone?
Really? :thumbdown: Do we have to go through this every time?
Go through what :thumbdown: ? I'm just curious how this can go through without the Rooney Rule kicking in. It's not my rule. :thumbup: :thumbup: :otheruselessmisusedcondescendingstupidmisplacedemoticonhere:
Nothing has gone through yet.The Redskins did an entire GM search for weeks and complied with the Rooney Rule without anyone knowing. In fact, it's been reported that they fulfilled the Rooney Rule requirements about 10 days ago. Just because there's an article about Shanahan going to Washington, doesn't mean they didn't interview any minority candidates.
 
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Lots of people in here need a refresher course on the fact that the word with can be used many different ways.
OK, Bill Clinton. You said he didn't succeed with Cutler. That CAN mean the didn't have a successful win-loss record with Cutler as his QB. However, it can also mean that he wasn't successful in making Cutler a good QB. Why didn't you say Shanny didn't succeed with Champ Bailey? Why didn't you say Shanny didn't succeed with Mike Anderson, Olandis Gary, or Clinton Portis? Because according to you, those statements would be accurate, but I'd be willing to bet that most people would call you on them, because those statements (while technically true) are mis-leading.
OK Kenneth StarrAnd why didn't I mention any of those guys? Maybe because none of those guys are currently playing for the Bears
God you're an annoying poster.
Thanks for your input. PMs are always accepted too.
 
If true, Portis should come as real value next year considering many think he's done.
I don[t know about that. Portis isn't the back he was in Denver anymore, and more importantly, the Skin's O-line isn't the Bronco's O-line from back in Portis' time there. For Portis to be an impact (FF) RB next year, the O-line needs to be improved.I do think Shanny can have a very positive impact on Campbell. Campbell isn't suited for a WCO; he has a gun, but isn't really good at making quick reads and short, accurate throws. Shanny let Cutler take more 5 & 7 step drops and throw more intermediate and deep routes. Those types of routes/passes are more Campbell's strength.
Portis' inability to get along with Shanny was a part of the reason why Portis was traded. Portis hasn't changed that aspect of himself, and his skills have certainly declined. Some have suspected that Portis might be on the way out anyway, so I'd suspect that this would make that even more likely.
 

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