Shane Vereen (1 Viewer)

[Hoss Style]

Well, Vereen has one TD, another that was a TD but called incorrectly, and he just dropped one in the endzone. He could easily have 3 TDs today.

 

[Otis]

Stud. Having a nice game, and his score doesn't reflect (1) the time earlier in the game when he was just barely down at the 1/2 yard line and (2) the fact that he's getting crazy red zone looks, including the pass he just missed in the red zone.

He's going to be a great play the rest of the way here.

 

[Otis]

Well, Vereen has one TD, another that was a TD but called incorrectly, and he just dropped one in the endzone. He could easily have 3 TDs today.

This.

 

[sdp1226]

Stud. Having a nice game, and his score doesn't reflect (1) the time earlier in the game when he was just barely down at the 1/2 yard line and (2) the fact that he's getting crazy red zone looks, including the pass he just missed in the red zone.

He's going to be a great play the rest of the way here.

Yup, feeling very confident rest of season. Holding on to him is going to pay off.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

i wish i could start him today. Id have to bench Charles, B Marsh or Andre Johnson.

lol...did you watch Keenum last week? I think it is pretty fair to say that Houston has mailed it in. Now, I will admit I cannot tell the future, but if I had to choose between a good, but older wr who is on a crappy team with a lame duck coach that may or may not have given up; and a young stub rb on an awesome team who catches passes and has just had the runway cleared for him, well I would be picking Vereen as my flex.

Oops!!! My mistake!!

lol no worries. i went with AJ anyhow. Had to go with the more consistant play. But both had solid games!!

 

[Banger]

good game an eyelash from being a great game. Great flex/#2 RB for the playoff bound....I also have Gronk/Vereen and hoping the improving Pat offense can carry me to another championship.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Stud. Having a nice game, and his score doesn't reflect (1) the time earlier in the game when he was just barely down at the 1/2 yard line and (2) the fact that he's getting crazy red zone looks, including the pass he just missed in the red zone.

He's going to be a great play the rest of the way here.

I really thought he would be getting his 2 TD game there at Hou.

Next up: Cleveland, in Foxborough, another good matchup.

 

[meatwad1]

This guy is a stud!!

Just wanted to put that analysis out there.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Why does everyone have to copy everyone else's posts when they reply? It's almost like Twitter if people kept responding to each other and there wasn't 140 character limit or whatever it is. Very annoying to read these threads with this crap going on.

I couldn't agree more.

Jeebus that's annoying.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Shane Vereen led the Patriots backfield by playing on 41-of-70 snaps in Sunday's win at Houston.

With Stevan Ridley a healthy scratch, LeGarrette Blount played 20 snaps and Brandon Bolden saw nine. Vereen saw extra reps in traditional packages, not just the three-wide "passing back" reps he typically gets. The result was 15 touches for 75 yards and one touchdown -- as well as two near scores. Regardless of Ridley's status, Vereen is the lead back here and a PPR monster heading into a home game against the Browns in Week 14.

Related: LeGarrette Blount, Brandon Bolden

Source: ESPN Boston

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Shane Vereen (wrist) is practicing in full for Week 14.

The only Patriots' running back who can be trusted for Week 14, Vereen is a mid-range RB2 in standard leagues, and borderline RB1 in PPR formats.

 

[SCT]

Imagine the buzz if he catches both wheel routes and doesn't get tackled at the one foot line on the run......

 

[mere blitzianity]

Any chance Ridley is a healthy scratch again? I could see the Pats go up big early and render Vereeen useless in the 2nd half as they Blount and Bolden

 

[Banger]

Any chance Ridley is a healthy scratch again? I could see the Pats go up big early and render Vereeen useless in the 2nd half as they Blount and Bolden

definitely a possibility when you hear the rumblings coming from the NE beat writers. If they are up big, it's likely due in part to Vereen.

 

[fbelange]

I value all my RB's above him.

Murray, A Brown, Gio, and Rainey...lastly Vereen.

Hes fools gold, and has a floor equal to his ceiling.

 

[Banger]

I value all my RB's above him.

Murray, A Brown, Gio, and Rainey...lastly Vereen.

Hes fools gold, and has a floor equal to his ceiling.

Murray/Brown definitely...the others not so much but to each his own.

 

[MattFancy]

I value all my RB's above him.

Murray, A Brown, Gio, and Rainey...lastly Vereen.

Hes fools gold, and has a floor equal to his ceiling.

What? Fool's Gold? Every game he's played in PPR this year he's scored at least 15 points. His point totals for the 4 games he's played: 22.9, 15.2, 17.1, 18.5. Averaging 18.4/game. In my league that would be good enough for RB6 ahead of every one of those guys you have listed.

 

[fbelange]

I value all my RB's above him.

Murray, A Brown, Gio, and Rainey...lastly Vereen.

Hes fools gold, and has a floor equal to his ceiling.

What? Fool's Gold? Every game he's played in PPR this year he's scored at least 15 points. His point totals for the 4 games he's played: 22.9, 15.2, 17.1, 18.5. Averaging 18.4/game. In my league that would be good enough for RB6 ahead of every one of those guys you have listed.

Im fishing.

Looking for reasons to Flex Vereen over Gio and Rainey... im torn here

 

[MattFancy]

I value all my RB's above him.

Murray, A Brown, Gio, and Rainey...lastly Vereen.

Hes fools gold, and has a floor equal to his ceiling.

What? Fool's Gold? Every game he's played in PPR this year he's scored at least 15 points. His point totals for the 4 games he's played: 22.9, 15.2, 17.1, 18.5. Averaging 18.4/game. In my league that would be good enough for RB6 ahead of every one of those guys you have listed.

Im fishing.

Looking for reasons to Flex Vereen over Gio and Rainey... im torn here

If it's PPR, I'm not sure why you wouldn't start Vereen over those 2. It's clear he's the only back the Pats trust right now.

 

[fbelange]

Non PPR. Not trying to turn this into a WDIS thread.

Vereen (since coming back from injury) has 6pts, 9pts, and 12 pts. Pedestrain numbers for a top 20ish back, where I see everyone ranking him.

 

[CentralPA]

I value all my RB's above him.

Murray, A Brown, Gio, and Rainey...lastly Vereen.

Hes fools gold, and has a floor equal to his ceiling.

that depends on what scoring you are using. If it's PPR than I disagree with most of what you posted.

 

[Banger]

Non PPR. Not trying to turn this into a WDIS thread.

Vereen (since coming back from injury) has 6pts, 9pts, and 12 pts. Pedestrain numbers for a top 20ish back, where I see everyone ranking him.

he was an eyelash from 3 tds last week and he's very involved with the offense. I'd definitely start him over Gio and likely over Rainey. NE is going to move the ball and score and Clev is a strong run D so he'll likely get a lot of dumpoffs. Rainey will also likely get a lot of touches so that's a close call.

Vereen's also been targetted and wide open on that wheel route 3 weeks in a row...when he finally catches it he's taking it to the house.

 

[CentralPA]

Non PPR. Not trying to turn this into a WDIS thread.

Vereen (since coming back from injury) has 6pts, 9pts, and 12 pts. Pedestrain numbers for a top 20ish back, where I see everyone ranking him.

Ah OK, in that case. This makes much more sense.

 

[MattFancy]

Non PPR. Not trying to turn this into a WDIS thread.

Vereen (since coming back from injury) has 6pts, 9pts, and 12 pts. Pedestrain numbers for a top 20ish back, where I see everyone ranking him.

Ah that makes sense then. Maybe Rainey just because he's going to see more carries than Gio or Vereen.

 

[Bayhawks]

Non PPR. Not trying to turn this into a WDIS thread.

Vereen (since coming back from injury) has 6pts, 9pts, and 12 pts. Pedestrain numbers for a top 20ish back, where I see everyone ranking him.

he was an eyelash from 3 tds last week and he's very involved with the offense. I'd definitely start him over Gio and likely over Rainey. NE is going to move the ball and score and Clev is a strong run D so he'll likely get a lot of dumpoffs. Rainey will also likely get a lot of touches so that's a close call.

Vereen's also been targetted and wide open on that wheel route 3 weeks in a row...when he finally catches it he's taking it to the house.

That's one way of looking at it. Another is that when watching film, teams are going to be more prepared for that play, because they've tried it multiple times.

 

[glumpy]

Non PPR. Not trying to turn this into a WDIS thread.

Vereen (since coming back from injury) has 6pts, 9pts, and 12 pts. Pedestrain numbers for a top 20ish back, where I see everyone ranking him.

he was an eyelash from 3 tds last week and he's very involved with the offense. I'd definitely start him over Gio and likely over Rainey. NE is going to move the ball and score and Clev is a strong run D so he'll likely get a lot of dumpoffs. Rainey will also likely get a lot of touches so that's a close call.

Vereen's also been targetted and wide open on that wheel route 3 weeks in a row...when he finally catches it he's taking it to the house.

Wish I had more chance to watch--Vereen's getting close then. I've got him in a Non-PPR league as well and have Rainey slated to start this week ahead of him. All else relatively equal, Buffalo has given up noticably more points to RB's over the past three weeks; otherwise both them and Cleveland are slightly better than middle of teh pack in my league format.

 

[Insein]

My fear is the lack of effectiveness running. 10 carries in the last 2 games but only 38 and 31 yards. Yea he's getting the catches but he's a rb. Need to be able to run too.

 

[Pietaster2]

Non PPR. Not trying to turn this into a WDIS thread.

Vereen (since coming back from injury) has 6pts, 9pts, and 12 pts. Pedestrain numbers for a top 20ish back, where I see everyone ranking him.

he was an eyelash from 3 tds last week and he's very involved with the offense. I'd definitely start him over Gio and likely over Rainey. NE is going to move the ball and score and Clev is a strong run D so he'll likely get a lot of dumpoffs. Rainey will also likely get a lot of touches so that's a close call.

Vereen's also been targetted and wide open on that wheel route 3 weeks in a row...when he finally catches it he's taking it to the house.

This is why I'm confidently starting Vereen in standard, over the Fred Jacksons of the world as an upside RB2 play. He's been so close to breakout with huge games in the past two weeks (the nearly 3TDs last week, and the big wheel route that could have added another 30 yards and possibly a TD against Denver, and the goal line carry that could have gone for a TD from the one yard line against Denver) that I can't dismiss him as simply a "PPR guy."

His floor is probably 50 combined yards and a 50% chance at a TD. He's much more likely to end with a stat line of 80/1 with all of the passing targets he gets, and that's very solid RB2 production in the first round of the playoffs. What makes Vereen great is his potential for a monster game since he's so involved in the offense and his speed makes him a risk for a big play every time he touches the ball. I hope to be bumping this thread on Sunday afternoon in celebration.

 

[Koya]

My fear is the lack of effectiveness running. 10 carries in the last 2 games but only 38 and 31 yards. Yea he's getting the catches but he's a rb. Need to be able to run too.

But he is not a "Running Back" - he is a tool/cog within a complex offense that preys on mismatches. If anything, he is playing a mesh of the Aaron Hernandez and Danny Woodhead roles. He's an outlet guy, a player they design a few pass plays to every game and gets a few handoffs to boot.

You can't look at him like a traditional RB. His typical line will be 5 carries for 20-30 yards and 5-8 catches for another 60, with upside. Maybe a 40-50% chance at a score, and a chance to break a short pass (or rare run) for 20-40 yards. So, his usual downside is about 10-12 points in .5ppr (to cut it in the middle) with an ok chance at 16-20 if he gets a TD and/or a few more yards. With the possibility of 10 carries or more every now and then (cause ya know, it's the pats and with Ridley in the doghouse carries are there) and more upside.

In a full PPR, he is really consistent WITH upside. In a non ppr its more sketchy, but even so he has a very defined, albeit flex, role in a good offense with a great QB - and regardless how he gets his touches, he is (as of now) the most trusted back they have.

 

[SCT]

Non PPR. Not trying to turn this into a WDIS thread.

Vereen (since coming back from injury) has 6pts, 9pts, and 12 pts. Pedestrain numbers for a top 20ish back, where I see everyone ranking him.

he was an eyelash from 3 tds last week and he's very involved with the offense. I'd definitely start him over Gio and likely over Rainey. NE is going to move the ball and score and Clev is a strong run D so he'll likely get a lot of dumpoffs. Rainey will also likely get a lot of touches so that's a close call.

Vereen's also been targetted and wide open on that wheel route 3 weeks in a row...when he finally catches it he's taking it to the house.

That's one way of looking at it. Another is that when watching film, teams are going to be more prepared for that play, because they've tried it multiple times.

That's another way of looking at it. A third way is that teams prepare for wheel routes every week because they are a common play. The success of football plays aren't about the defense preparing or not preparing for them it's about putting the d in a position where they have to choose which option in the progression they want to stop. If a play is executed and read correctly by the QB, there's usually an open option the D can't account for whether they are prepared or not.

 

[SCT]

My fear is the lack of effectiveness running. 10 carries in the last 2 games but only 38 and 31 yards. Yea he's getting the catches but he's a rb. Need to be able to run too.

But he is not a "Running Back" - he is a tool/cog within a complex offense that preys on mismatches. If anything, he is playing a mesh of the Aaron Hernandez and Danny Woodhead roles. He's an outlet guy, a player they design a few pass plays to every game and gets a few handoffs to boot.

You can't look at him like a traditional RB. His typical line will be 5 carries for 20-30 yards and 5-8 catches for another 60, with upside. Maybe a 40-50% chance at a score, and a chance to break a short pass (or rare run) for 20-40 yards. So, his usual downside is about 10-12 points in .5ppr (to cut it in the middle) with an ok chance at 16-20 if he gets a TD and/or a few more yards. With the possibility of 10 carries or more every now and then (cause ya know, it's the pats and with Ridley in the doghouse carries are there) and more upside.

In a full PPR, he is really consistent WITH upside. In a non ppr its more sketchy, but even so he has a very defined, albeit flex, role in a good offense with a great QB - and regardless how he gets his touches, he is (as of now) the most trusted back they have.

Sproles 2.0. Get on the train and ride it for about a decade.

 

[Bayhawks]

Non PPR. Not trying to turn this into a WDIS thread.

Vereen (since coming back from injury) has 6pts, 9pts, and 12 pts. Pedestrain numbers for a top 20ish back, where I see everyone ranking him.

he was an eyelash from 3 tds last week and he's very involved with the offense. I'd definitely start him over Gio and likely over Rainey. NE is going to move the ball and score and Clev is a strong run D so he'll likely get a lot of dumpoffs. Rainey will also likely get a lot of touches so that's a close call.

Vereen's also been targetted and wide open on that wheel route 3 weeks in a row...when he finally catches it he's taking it to the house.

That's one way of looking at it. Another is that when watching film, teams are going to be more prepared for that play, because they've tried it multiple times.

That's another way of looking at it. A third way is that teams prepare for wheel routes every week because they are a common play. The success of football plays aren't about the defense preparing or not preparing for them it's about putting the d in a position where they have to choose which option in the progression they want to stop. If a play is executed and read correctly by the QB, there's usually an open option the D can't account for whether they are prepared or not.

You're right. However, I believe that the more a team sees a formation/play on tape, the more prepared they can/will be when they see it in a game.

Maybe the reason Vereen was so wide open is that they were covering an underneath route. Maybe future opponents will think "that wheel route is going to be a big gainer, but we should be able to stop the underneath rout for a shorter gain; we'll pay more attention to the wheel route."

Anyway, my point is it's not a given that the wheel route that he has "just missed" on is automatically going to be a big play for him at some point.

 

[Koya]

Non PPR. Not trying to turn this into a WDIS thread.

Vereen (since coming back from injury) has 6pts, 9pts, and 12 pts. Pedestrain numbers for a top 20ish back, where I see everyone ranking him.

he was an eyelash from 3 tds last week and he's very involved with the offense. I'd definitely start him over Gio and likely over Rainey. NE is going to move the ball and score and Clev is a strong run D so he'll likely get a lot of dumpoffs. Rainey will also likely get a lot of touches so that's a close call.

Vereen's also been targetted and wide open on that wheel route 3 weeks in a row...when he finally catches it he's taking it to the house.

That's one way of looking at it. Another is that when watching film, teams are going to be more prepared for that play, because they've tried it multiple times.

That's another way of looking at it. A third way is that teams prepare for wheel routes every week because they are a common play. The success of football plays aren't about the defense preparing or not preparing for them it's about putting the d in a position where they have to choose which option in the progression they want to stop. If a play is executed and read correctly by the QB, there's usually an open option the D can't account for whether they are prepared or not.

You're right. However, I believe that the more a team sees a formation/play on tape, the more prepared they can/will be when they see it in a game.

Maybe the reason Vereen was so wide open is that they were covering an underneath route. Maybe future opponents will think "that wheel route is going to be a big gainer, but we should be able to stop the underneath rout for a shorter gain; we'll pay more attention to the wheel route."

Anyway, my point is it's not a given that the wheel route that he has "just missed" on is automatically going to be a big play for him at some point.

If teams "sell out" to stop a wheel route, then you open up a crossing pattern, a deeper sideline pass and/or a seem. And now you can't double Gronk or put as much linebacker help on him.

When the wheel is focused upon, then they will find other utilization for Vereen (such as a belly route where he wheels into the center of the field) and then everyone readjusts from there.

Vereen has a lot of talent. He's an ok runner, but pretty decent in space with his size and some maneuverability. Good hands and a very good sense of where to be to get open. That is not going to be "shut down" because you take away one route, which then just leaves Gronk (and Edelman) more open. It's a pick your poison, and the most lethal poison is Gronk who will make sure Vereen has opportunities as long as Gronk's on the field.

 

[Banger]

Non PPR. Not trying to turn this into a WDIS thread.

Vereen (since coming back from injury) has 6pts, 9pts, and 12 pts. Pedestrain numbers for a top 20ish back, where I see everyone ranking him.

he was an eyelash from 3 tds last week and he's very involved with the offense. I'd definitely start him over Gio and likely over Rainey. NE is going to move the ball and score and Clev is a strong run D so he'll likely get a lot of dumpoffs. Rainey will also likely get a lot of touches so that's a close call.

Vereen's also been targetted and wide open on that wheel route 3 weeks in a row...when he finally catches it he's taking it to the house.

That's one way of looking at it. Another is that when watching film, teams are going to be more prepared for that play, because they've tried it multiple times.

it's worked every time and bounced off his hands...it hasn't been due to the play of the defense on any of the plays. Brady is smart and waits for the mismatch.

 

[Koya]

Non PPR. Not trying to turn this into a WDIS thread.

Vereen (since coming back from injury) has 6pts, 9pts, and 12 pts. Pedestrain numbers for a top 20ish back, where I see everyone ranking him.

he was an eyelash from 3 tds last week and he's very involved with the offense. I'd definitely start him over Gio and likely over Rainey. NE is going to move the ball and score and Clev is a strong run D so he'll likely get a lot of dumpoffs. Rainey will also likely get a lot of touches so that's a close call.

Vereen's also been targetted and wide open on that wheel route 3 weeks in a row...when he finally catches it he's taking it to the house.

That's one way of looking at it. Another is that when watching film, teams are going to be more prepared for that play, because they've tried it multiple times.

it's worked every time and bounced off his hands...it hasn't been due to the play of the defense on any of the plays. Brady is smart and waits for the mismatch.

And to that end, I don't think Brady has lost faith as Vereen's been playing with a soft cast. Any word on when that will be off? He doesnt have that and he catches those more often than not.

 

[Phenix]

At this point in any league, what RBs would you play over this guy? PPR or not.

 

[timoleander]

At this point in any league, what RBs would you play over this guy? PPR or not.

I'm debating on starting Stacy over him this week, but I'll probably not pull the trigger on that, especially due to Stacy's difficult matchup.

 

[irishnips]

Tough not to play this guy every week but I have AP, Andre Brown and LeVeon Bell in front of him.

 

[Ray]

Tough not to play this guy every week but I have AP, Andre Brown and LeVeon Bell in front of him.

PPR? Even after Brown's 14 for 35 performance?

 

[elbowrm]

I have Vereen in over Brown, PPR - but I haven't listened to last night's audible yet, and bloom may talk me out of this.

 

[Andrew74]

He's moved past Morris for me.

 

[VikingFrog]

He's moved past Morris for me.

Me too.

 

[djmich]

I'm afraid NE will go up big on CLE and just grind it out with Blount/Bolden, have Stacy in over him since I figure Stacy is a lock for 15 and more likely 20 carries.

 

[voiceofunreason]

Non PPR. Not trying to turn this into a WDIS thread.

Vereen (since coming back from injury) has 6pts, 9pts, and 12 pts. Pedestrain numbers for a top 20ish back, where I see everyone ranking him.

he was an eyelash from 3 tds last week and he's very involved with the offense. I'd definitely start him over Gio and likely over Rainey. NE is going to move the ball and score and Clev is a strong run D so he'll likely get a lot of dumpoffs. Rainey will also likely get a lot of touches so that's a close call.

Vereen's also been targetted and wide open on that wheel route 3 weeks in a row...when he finally catches it he's taking it to the house.

That's one way of looking at it. Another is that when watching film, teams are going to be more prepared for that play, because they've tried it multiple times.

it's worked every time and bounced off his hands...it hasn't been due to the play of the defense on any of the plays. Brady is smart and waits for the mismatch.

Didn't realize that it's good news a guy who only catches the football can't catch the football. All aboard, the guy is gold.

 

[Koya]

Non PPR. Not trying to turn this into a WDIS thread.

Vereen (since coming back from injury) has 6pts, 9pts, and 12 pts. Pedestrain numbers for a top 20ish back, where I see everyone ranking him.

he was an eyelash from 3 tds last week and he's very involved with the offense. I'd definitely start him over Gio and likely over Rainey. NE is going to move the ball and score and Clev is a strong run D so he'll likely get a lot of dumpoffs. Rainey will also likely get a lot of touches so that's a close call. Vereen's also been targetted and wide open on that wheel route 3 weeks in a row...when he finally catches it he's taking it to the house.

That's one way of looking at it. Another is that when watching film, teams are going to be more prepared for that play, because they've tried it multiple times.

it's worked every time and bounced off his hands...it hasn't been due to the play of the defense on any of the plays. Brady is smart and waits for the mismatch.

Didn't realize that it's good news a guy who only catches the football can't catch the football. All aboard, the guy is gold.

You recognize he was wearing a soft cast, yes? And on a team where mistakes are not tolerated, they kept going back to him, and he caught a good bunch of receptions - and they did this over the stretch of multiple games...

Vereen has good hands, but is still dealing with the break. Even so, he's the second most important part of that offense (non QB) after Gronk, which is more the point that was trying to be made.

 

[unckeyherb]

It's a pick 'em matchup wise for me with Lacy, Stacy, Vereen and SJax. Been benching SJax and going with the others but he's been looking better recently

 

[zftcg]

Tough not to play this guy every week but I have AP, Andre Brown and LeVeon Bell in front of him.

Feel the same way in my 0.5 PPR league. I'm starting Brown one more week, but there's a good chance Vereen vaults ahead the next two weeks, when Brown gets SEA/DET. Also started him last week for Moreno because I was concerned about the ankle and viewed Vereen as safer (as it turned out, Moreno outscored him by a point).

As I see it, he's this year's Sproles, and a rich man's Gio Bernard (for the time being -- I think Gio's ceiling is ultimately higher).

 

[mere blitzianity]

Tough not to play this guy every week but I have AP, Andre Brown and LeVeon Bell in front of him.

Feel the same way in my 0.5 PPR league. I'm starting Brown one more week, but there's a good chance Vereen vaults ahead the next two weeks, when Brown gets SEA/DET. Also started him last week for Moreno because I was concerned about the ankle and viewed Vereen as safer (as it turned out, Moreno outscored him by a point).

As I see it, he's this year's Sproles, and a rich man's Gio Bernard (for the time being -- I think Gio's ceiling is ultimately higher).

You're starting Bell over him? I like Vereen a bit more, especially given Bell's concussion last week

 

[Phenix]

Non PPR. Not trying to turn this into a WDIS thread.

Vereen (since coming back from injury) has 6pts, 9pts, and 12 pts. Pedestrain numbers for a top 20ish back, where I see everyone ranking him.

he was an eyelash from 3 tds last week and he's very involved with the offense. I'd definitely start him over Gio and likely over Rainey. NE is going to move the ball and score and Clev is a strong run D so he'll likely get a lot of dumpoffs. Rainey will also likely get a lot of touches so that's a close call.

Vereen's also been targetted and wide open on that wheel route 3 weeks in a row...when he finally catches it he's taking it to the house.

That's one way of looking at it. Another is that when watching film, teams are going to be more prepared for that play, because they've tried it multiple times.

it's worked every time and bounced off his hands...it hasn't been due to the play of the defense on any of the plays. Brady is smart and waits for the mismatch.

Didn't realize that it's good news a guy who only catches the football can't catch the football. All aboard, the guy is gold.

You clearly do not understand the game of fantasy football.

 

[Phenix]

It's a pick 'em matchup wise for me with Lacy, Stacy, Vereen and SJax. Been benching SJax and going with the others but he's been looking better recently

To be honest Vereen looks to be your #2 behind Lacy out of that Group this week.