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I ran out of pole options.
O/U for wins should be 6.Wins led by the running attack: 8Wins led by Young's passing attack: -2
You heard wrong. We(they) have NINE receivers on the roster. Well, at least they have nine guys listed at the position...
I voted one slot higher in each category.
I voted:2000-2499 passing yards [2,425]15-19 TDs600-699 rushing yards7-8 TDs
i am shocked. i think the hype will grow as the summer goes on.i will try to capture snapshots of the pole over time and post in thread time dating them.it's like a time capsule but without the crappy pop culture time items like weebles and pet rocks.
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The big issue isn't the hype, it's the varied opinions on VY. He's a polarizing fantasy player, which means he'll get drafted highly. It doesn't matter if half your league wouldn't touch him in the first 12 rounds, because someone in your league will take him in the 6th.
I voted the same with the exception of Rush yards, i put him at 500-599. With that WR corps, i see pulling the ball down and running on pass plays as a better option.
(*TM) without the "*".
I think the big issue with Vince Young is also the disparity between his passing stats and his fantasy football scoring. I think many people inherently discount the rushing statistics--or they compare him to Michael Vick. Vick only averages 4.5 rushing TDs per year. Because of Vince Young's size he could easily get 6+ (he had 7 last year). If he puts up the kind of rushing stats he had last year (in less than a full season) and he shows any improvement as a passer, he could be a top 5 QB with only around 20 passing TDs.The big issue isn't the hype, it's the varied opinions on VY. He's a polarizing fantasy player, which means he'll get drafted highly. It doesn't matter if half your league wouldn't touch him in the first 12 rounds, because someone in your league will take him in the 6th.
How about the losses of Travis Henry and Drew Bennett?Vince Young is very much like Mike Vick in terms of fantasy perspective. In conventional scoring leagues, where passing TDs count less than rushing TDs and the price of interceptions is de minimous, VY is already a viable fantasy commodity.
Last year, in 15 games, VY finished 11th among fantasy QBs. He was 4 points short of overtaking Big Ben for 10th.
2006 Fantasy QBs via Data Dominator
It certainly stands to reason, barring injury, he will improve. As long as people don't start valuing him as a top 5/6 fantasy QB; I don't see how he's going to be grossly overvalued. He might not be undervalued. But overvalued?
it depends from a vbd perspective where he goes in the draft.he will likely be overvalued in terms of draft position, but not necessarily via his projection.Vince Young is very much like Mike Vick in terms of fantasy perspective. In conventional scoring leagues, where passing TDs count less than rushing TDs and the price of interceptions is de minimous, VY is already a viable fantasy commodity.
Last year, in 15 games, VY finished 11th among fantasy QBs. He was 4 points short of overtaking Big Ben for 10th.
2006 Fantasy QBs via Data Dominator
It certainly stands to reason, barring injury, he will improve. As long as people don't start valuing him as a top 5/6 fantasy QB; I don't see how he's going to be grossly overvalued. He might not be undervalued. But overvalued?
I think you're underestimating people quite a bit.I think the big issue with Vince Young is also the disparity between his passing stats and his fantasy football scoring. I think many people inherently discount the rushing statistics--or they compare him to Michael Vick. Vick only averages 4.5 rushing TDs per year. Because of Vince Young's size he could easily get 6+ (he had 7 last year). If he puts up the kind of rushing stats he had last year (in less than a full season) and he shows any improvement as a passer, he could be a top 5 QB with only around 20 passing TDs.The big issue isn't the hype, it's the varied opinions on VY. He's a polarizing fantasy player, which means he'll get drafted highly. It doesn't matter if half your league wouldn't touch him in the first 12 rounds, because someone in your league will take him in the 6th.
the loss of henry is going to be much bigger than many people think.he was just as responsible as leading the titans to those wins as VY was.How about the losses of Travis Henry and Drew Bennett?Vince Young is very much like Mike Vick in terms of fantasy perspective. In conventional scoring leagues, where passing TDs count less than rushing TDs and the price of interceptions is de minimous, VY is already a viable fantasy commodity.
Last year, in 15 games, VY finished 11th among fantasy QBs. He was 4 points short of overtaking Big Ben for 10th.
2006 Fantasy QBs via Data Dominator
It certainly stands to reason, barring injury, he will improve. As long as people don't start valuing him as a top 5/6 fantasy QB; I don't see how he's going to be grossly overvalued. He might not be undervalued. But overvalued?
It's an issue to be sure. That said, I find it difficult to project a net DECLINE in stats for a 2nd year starting QB [barring injury].The defense should be horrendous again, and those rushing yards came when Young tried to make plays when others weren't there. Unless Young got slower, less instinctive, or less intelligent...his rushing numbers will be there. Asking him to come up with 2,400 passing yards hardly seems out of the question.How about the losses of Travis Henry and Drew Bennett?Vince Young is very much like Mike Vick in terms of fantasy perspective. In conventional scoring leagues, where passing TDs count less than rushing TDs and the price of interceptions is de minimous, VY is already a viable fantasy commodity.
Last year, in 15 games, VY finished 11th among fantasy QBs. He was 4 points short of overtaking Big Ben for 10th.
2006 Fantasy QBs via Data Dominator
It certainly stands to reason, barring injury, he will improve. As long as people don't start valuing him as a top 5/6 fantasy QB; I don't see how he's going to be grossly overvalued. He might not be undervalued. But overvalued?
I agree with all of that, but as long as his WR crew is what it is, his upside (as far as passing numbers) is going to be severely limited.Also, as with all running QBs...I have an above average injury risk rating for him.It's an issue to be sure. That said, I find it difficult to project a net DECLINE in stats for a 2nd year starting QB [barring injury].The defense should be horrendous again, and those rushing yards came when Young tried to make plays when others weren't there. Unless Young got slower, less instinctive, or less intelligent...his rushing numbers will be there. Asking him to come up with 2,400 passing yards hardly seems out of the question.How about the losses of Travis Henry and Drew Bennett?Vince Young is very much like Mike Vick in terms of fantasy perspective. In conventional scoring leagues, where passing TDs count less than rushing TDs and the price of interceptions is de minimous, VY is already a viable fantasy commodity.
Last year, in 15 games, VY finished 11th among fantasy QBs. He was 4 points short of overtaking Big Ben for 10th.
2006 Fantasy QBs via Data Dominator
It certainly stands to reason, barring injury, he will improve. As long as people don't start valuing him as a top 5/6 fantasy QB; I don't see how he's going to be grossly overvalued. He might not be undervalued. But overvalued?
I agree with all of that, but as long as his WR crew is what it is, his upside (as far as passing numbers) is going to be severely limited.Also, as with all running QBs...I have an above average injury risk rating for him.It's an issue to be sure. That said, I find it difficult to project a net DECLINE in stats for a 2nd year starting QB [barring injury].The defense should be horrendous again, and those rushing yards came when Young tried to make plays when others weren't there. Unless Young got slower, less instinctive, or less intelligent...his rushing numbers will be there. Asking him to come up with 2,400 passing yards hardly seems out of the question.How about the losses of Travis Henry and Drew Bennett?Vince Young is very much like Mike Vick in terms of fantasy perspective. In conventional scoring leagues, where passing TDs count less than rushing TDs and the price of interceptions is de minimous, VY is already a viable fantasy commodity.
Last year, in 15 games, VY finished 11th among fantasy QBs. He was 4 points short of overtaking Big Ben for 10th.
2006 Fantasy QBs via Data Dominator
It certainly stands to reason, barring injury, he will improve. As long as people don't start valuing him as a top 5/6 fantasy QB; I don't see how he's going to be grossly overvalued. He might not be undervalued. But overvalued?
I think he's a good QBBC play this year, but wouldn't touch him if I had to start him every week in a 12 team H2H.
I agree with you on all fronts.
Running QBs are notoriously rough picks for QBBCs. It's much harder to figure out when they'll have a good game.I agree with all of that, but as long as his WR crew is what it is, his upside (as far as passing numbers) is going to be severely limited.Also, as with all running QBs...I have an above average injury risk rating for him.It's an issue to be sure. That said, I find it difficult to project a net DECLINE in stats for a 2nd year starting QB [barring injury].The defense should be horrendous again, and those rushing yards came when Young tried to make plays when others weren't there. Unless Young got slower, less instinctive, or less intelligent...his rushing numbers will be there. Asking him to come up with 2,400 passing yards hardly seems out of the question.How about the losses of Travis Henry and Drew Bennett?Vince Young is very much like Mike Vick in terms of fantasy perspective. In conventional scoring leagues, where passing TDs count less than rushing TDs and the price of interceptions is de minimous, VY is already a viable fantasy commodity.
Last year, in 15 games, VY finished 11th among fantasy QBs. He was 4 points short of overtaking Big Ben for 10th.
2006 Fantasy QBs via Data Dominator
It certainly stands to reason, barring injury, he will improve. As long as people don't start valuing him as a top 5/6 fantasy QB; I don't see how he's going to be grossly overvalued. He might not be undervalued. But overvalued?
I think he's a good QBBC play this year, but wouldn't touch him if I had to start him every week in a 12 team H2H.
This is true...Vick has been driving owners mad for years. That being said, I still wouldn't mind him as my QB#2 if my sleepers are off the board...big if though.Running QBs are notoriously rough picks for QBBCs. It's much harder to figure out when they'll have a good game.I agree with all of that, but as long as his WR crew is what it is, his upside (as far as passing numbers) is going to be severely limited.Also, as with all running QBs...I have an above average injury risk rating for him.It's an issue to be sure. That said, I find it difficult to project a net DECLINE in stats for a 2nd year starting QB [barring injury].The defense should be horrendous again, and those rushing yards came when Young tried to make plays when others weren't there. Unless Young got slower, less instinctive, or less intelligent...his rushing numbers will be there. Asking him to come up with 2,400 passing yards hardly seems out of the question.How about the losses of Travis Henry and Drew Bennett?Vince Young is very much like Mike Vick in terms of fantasy perspective. In conventional scoring leagues, where passing TDs count less than rushing TDs and the price of interceptions is de minimous, VY is already a viable fantasy commodity.
Last year, in 15 games, VY finished 11th among fantasy QBs. He was 4 points short of overtaking Big Ben for 10th.
2006 Fantasy QBs via Data Dominator
It certainly stands to reason, barring injury, he will improve. As long as people don't start valuing him as a top 5/6 fantasy QB; I don't see how he's going to be grossly overvalued. He might not be undervalued. But overvalued?
I think he's a good QBBC play this year, but wouldn't touch him if I had to start him every week in a 12 team H2H.
Am I? He essentially played in 14 games last year. If you extrapolate his stats that 2513 passing yards, 14 TDs, 630 yards and 8 TDs. Roughly 40% of the people in the poll have him under-performing his 2006 passing stats. I can live with that.However, 55% have him under-performing his rushing yards and about 80% have him under-performing his rushing stats versus last year. So, in this poll people are clearly discounting his rushing ability. If you extrapolate his last 8 games, he would have thrown for 2,874 yards with 14 TDs while rushing for 830 yards and 10 TDs. So, only about 10% of those polled have him performing in-line or better on his rushing stats than he did in the second half of last year. Having been active in most of the Vince Young debate threads, I have just seen many more comparisons to Vick (6'0", 215#) then other, recent prolific rushing QBs like Culpepper (6'4", 265#) and Donovan McNabb (6'2", 240#) who had more rushing TDs early in their career than Vick has--and who are more comparable in size to Young. Other big, non-mobile QBs like Roethlisberger and Manning typically get a couple close-in rushing TDs per year. At 6'4" and 235# I think Young will get both the close-in TDs of a big QB plus some of the the open field TDs of Vick. As a result, I think people are going to under-estimate his rushing ability--as they have in this poll.Edit: The expected rushing TD total implied by this poll is 5.4--or 0.34 per game. This is 32% below his production last year of 0.5 per game. Note: Daunte Culpepper averaged 0.51 rushing TDs per game though the first 3 full years of his career.I think you're underestimating people quite a bit.I think the big issue with Vince Young is also the disparity between his passing stats and his fantasy football scoring. I think many people inherently discount the rushing statistics--or they compare him to Michael Vick. Vick only averages 4.5 rushing TDs per year. Because of Vince Young's size he could easily get 6+ (he had 7 last year). If he puts up the kind of rushing stats he had last year (in less than a full season) and he shows any improvement as a passer, he could be a top 5 QB with only around 20 passing TDs.The big issue isn't the hype, it's the varied opinions on VY. He's a polarizing fantasy player, which means he'll get drafted highly. It doesn't matter if half your league wouldn't touch him in the first 12 rounds, because someone in your league will take him in the 6th.
extrapolating a partial season's worth of stats into a full season's worth of stats is the quickest way to over project someone IMO.Am I? He essentially played in 14 games last year. If you extrapolate his stats that 2513 passing yards, 14 TDs, 630 yards and 8 TDs. Roughly 40% of the people in the poll have him under-performing his 2006 passing stats. I can live with that.However, 55% have him under-performing his rushing yards and about 80% have him under-performing his rushing stats versus last year. So, in this poll people are clearly discounting his rushing ability. If you extrapolate his last 8 games, he would have thrown for 2,874 yards with 14 TDs while rushing for 830 yards and 10 TDs. So, only about 10% of those polled have him performing in-line or better on his rushing stats than he did in the second half of last year. Having been active in most of the Vince Young debate threads, I have just seen many more comparisons to Vick (6'0", 215#) then other, recent prolific rushing QBs like Culpepper (6'4", 265#) and Donovan McNabb (6'2", 240#) who had more rushing TDs early in their career than Vick has--and who are more comparable in size to Young. Other big, non-mobile QBs like Roethlisberger and Manning typically get a couple close-in rushing TDs per year. At 6'4" and 235# I think Young will get both the close-in TDs of a big QB plus some of the the open field TDs of Vick. As a result, I think people are going to under-estimate his rushing ability--as they have in this poll.I think you're underestimating people quite a bit.I think the big issue with Vince Young is also the disparity between his passing stats and his fantasy football scoring. I think many people inherently discount the rushing statistics--or they compare him to Michael Vick. Vick only averages 4.5 rushing TDs per year. Because of Vince Young's size he could easily get 6+ (he had 7 last year). If he puts up the kind of rushing stats he had last year (in less than a full season) and he shows any improvement as a passer, he could be a top 5 QB with only around 20 passing TDs.The big issue isn't the hype, it's the varied opinions on VY. He's a polarizing fantasy player, which means he'll get drafted highly. It doesn't matter if half your league wouldn't touch him in the first 12 rounds, because someone in your league will take him in the 6th.
1) I'm sure some people factored in injury risk when making their projections. You shouldn't use the projected 16 game numbers, especially since Young played in (slightly) more games last year than you'd project for him to play in this year.2) Young rushed for the 13th most rushing yards by a QB ever and the 13th most rushing TDs by a QB ever. To say he won't reach those levels again certainly isn't discounting his rushing ability. McNair rushed for 684 yards his first year starting, and he never came near that level again.3) Yes, but most people have him projected to do better than he did in the first half of the year.I think most people will project Young to rush for the 2nd most yards by a QB and the most TDs by a QB. Do you disagree with that?
Well said. It seems as if there is not much middle ground in terms of viewpoints on Young. In the sharks eyes he is either great or garbage. When truthfully, he had one of the better rookie QB campaigns in recent memory.I know everyone thinks that Henry and Bennett are these huge losses, but I don't. Bennett won't be missed, especially if Givens is healthy to start the year. Henry might, but for as good as Henry was last year, he was crap the previous. I think his sucess was more the O-line coming together, than Henry turning out to be the team savior. I'm guessing the FO believes that too, when they wouldn't pay him his bonus. Not to mention he is a failed piss test away from a years suspension.I'm not saying the Titans are going to be the best team in the league, but I do expect them to be a better team than last year.Am I? He essentially played in 14 games last year. If you extrapolate his stats that 2513 passing yards, 14 TDs, 630 yards and 8 TDs. Roughly 40% of the people in the poll have him under-performing his 2006 passing stats. I can live with that.However, 55% have him under-performing his rushing yards and about 80% have him under-performing his rushing stats versus last year. So, in this poll people are clearly discounting his rushing ability. If you extrapolate his last 8 games, he would have thrown for 2,874 yards with 14 TDs while rushing for 830 yards and 10 TDs. So, only about 10% of those polled have him performing in-line or better on his rushing stats than he did in the second half of last year. Having been active in most of the Vince Young debate threads, I have just seen many more comparisons to Vick (6'0", 215#) then other, recent prolific rushing QBs like Culpepper (6'4", 265#) and Donovan McNabb (6'2", 240#) who had more rushing TDs early in their career than Vick has--and who are more comparable in size to Young. Other big, non-mobile QBs like Roethlisberger and Manning typically get a couple close-in rushing TDs per year. At 6'4" and 235# I think Young will get both the close-in TDs of a big QB plus some of the the open field TDs of Vick. As a result, I think people are going to under-estimate his rushing ability--as they have in this poll.Edit: The expected rushing TD total implied by this poll is 5.4--or 0.34 per game. This is 32% below his production last year of 0.5 per game. Note: Daunte Culpepper averaged 0.51 rushing TDs per game though the first 3 full years of his career.I think you're underestimating people quite a bit.I think the big issue with Vince Young is also the disparity between his passing stats and his fantasy football scoring. I think many people inherently discount the rushing statistics--or they compare him to Michael Vick. Vick only averages 4.5 rushing TDs per year. Because of Vince Young's size he could easily get 6+ (he had 7 last year). If he puts up the kind of rushing stats he had last year (in less than a full season) and he shows any improvement as a passer, he could be a top 5 QB with only around 20 passing TDs.The big issue isn't the hype, it's the varied opinions on VY. He's a polarizing fantasy player, which means he'll get drafted highly. It doesn't matter if half your league wouldn't touch him in the first 12 rounds, because someone in your league will take him in the 6th.
You think the Titans win 9 games?Well said. It seems as if there is not much middle ground in terms of viewpoints on Young. In the sharks eyes he is either great or garbage. When truthfully, he had one of the better rookie QB campaigns in recent memory.I know everyone thinks that Henry and Bennett are these huge losses, but I don't. Bennett won't be missed, especially if Givens is healthy to start the year. Henry might, but for as good as Henry was last year, he was crap the previous. I think his sucess was more the O-line coming together, than Henry turning out to be the team savior. I'm guessing the FO believes that too, when they wouldn't pay him his bonus. Not to mention he is a failed piss test away from a years suspension.I'm not saying the Titans are going to be the best team in the league, but I do expect them to be a better team than last year.Am I? He essentially played in 14 games last year. If you extrapolate his stats that 2513 passing yards, 14 TDs, 630 yards and 8 TDs. Roughly 40% of the people in the poll have him under-performing his 2006 passing stats. I can live with that.However, 55% have him under-performing his rushing yards and about 80% have him under-performing his rushing stats versus last year. So, in this poll people are clearly discounting his rushing ability. If you extrapolate his last 8 games, he would have thrown for 2,874 yards with 14 TDs while rushing for 830 yards and 10 TDs. So, only about 10% of those polled have him performing in-line or better on his rushing stats than he did in the second half of last year. Having been active in most of the Vince Young debate threads, I have just seen many more comparisons to Vick (6'0", 215#) then other, recent prolific rushing QBs like Culpepper (6'4", 265#) and Donovan McNabb (6'2", 240#) who had more rushing TDs early in their career than Vick has--and who are more comparable in size to Young. Other big, non-mobile QBs like Roethlisberger and Manning typically get a couple close-in rushing TDs per year. At 6'4" and 235# I think Young will get both the close-in TDs of a big QB plus some of the the open field TDs of Vick. As a result, I think people are going to under-estimate his rushing ability--as they have in this poll.Edit: The expected rushing TD total implied by this poll is 5.4--or 0.34 per game. This is 32% below his production last year of 0.5 per game. Note: Daunte Culpepper averaged 0.51 rushing TDs per game though the first 3 full years of his career.I think you're underestimating people quite a bit.I think the big issue with Vince Young is also the disparity between his passing stats and his fantasy football scoring. I think many people inherently discount the rushing statistics--or they compare him to Michael Vick. Vick only averages 4.5 rushing TDs per year. Because of Vince Young's size he could easily get 6+ (he had 7 last year). If he puts up the kind of rushing stats he had last year (in less than a full season) and he shows any improvement as a passer, he could be a top 5 QB with only around 20 passing TDs.The big issue isn't the hype, it's the varied opinions on VY. He's a polarizing fantasy player, which means he'll get drafted highly. It doesn't matter if half your league wouldn't touch him in the first 12 rounds, because someone in your league will take him in the 6th.
There's a whole lotta love in this room today...I agree with all of that, but as long as his WR crew is what it is, his upside (as far as passing numbers) is going to be severely limited.Also, as with all running QBs...I have an above average injury risk rating for him.It's an issue to be sure. That said, I find it difficult to project a net DECLINE in stats for a 2nd year starting QB [barring injury].The defense should be horrendous again, and those rushing yards came when Young tried to make plays when others weren't there. Unless Young got slower, less instinctive, or less intelligent...his rushing numbers will be there. Asking him to come up with 2,400 passing yards hardly seems out of the question.How about the losses of Travis Henry and Drew Bennett?Vince Young is very much like Mike Vick in terms of fantasy perspective. In conventional scoring leagues, where passing TDs count less than rushing TDs and the price of interceptions is de minimous, VY is already a viable fantasy commodity.
Last year, in 15 games, VY finished 11th among fantasy QBs. He was 4 points short of overtaking Big Ben for 10th.
2006 Fantasy QBs via Data Dominator
It certainly stands to reason, barring injury, he will improve. As long as people don't start valuing him as a top 5/6 fantasy QB; I don't see how he's going to be grossly overvalued. He might not be undervalued. But overvalued?
I think he's a good QBBC play this year, but wouldn't touch him if I had to start him every week in a 12 team H2H.
You're cherry-picking. Culpepper had 7 rushing TDs in his first full season, and 5 in his second full season. Does the fact that Culpepper had 10 in his third full season really mean you should predict that Young will have 7 in his second?A QB getting more than 5 rushing TDs is exceedingly rare: there have only been 34 QB-seasons with 6+ TDs since 1960, only 5 QBs have ever done it twice in their careers, no one has ever done it three times, and no one has ever done it twice in a row. I don't think any QB in today's NFL can be expected to score more than 5 TDs, so I think if anything the poll results are overstating Young's potential for rushing TDs.
Henry and Bennett are big losses but not just because they left. They are big losses because the Titan's have done essentially nothing to replace them. Henry is being replaced by a rookie who is 100% potential, he certainly did't show much at all in college. Bennett is being replaced by Givens (who may not even be ready to play when the season starts) and/or an unproven rookie. I am not saying the Titans can not be a better team next year but I am not seeing any reason at all right now to believe that they will be, especially on offense where they seem to be stuck in reverse.
Personally, I voted 3000 passing yards with 20-24 TDs, 500 yds rushing 3-4 TDs. Its not that I under estimate VY's running ability, just I believe he will use his legs less as he gets more comfortable and his passing % improves.
Thanks for the primer. That's why I based the conclusion on a full season of stats and indicated the half-season stats as a side note. BTW, IMO a rookie QB's first games are nearly useless in making statistical projections of future performance.extrapolating a partial season's worth of stats into a full season's worth of stats is the quickest way to over project someone IMO.Am I? He essentially played in 14 games last year. If you extrapolate his stats that 2513 passing yards, 14 TDs, 630 yards and 8 TDs. Roughly 40% of the people in the poll have him under-performing his 2006 passing stats. I can live with that.However, 55% have him under-performing his rushing yards and about 80% have him under-performing his rushing stats versus last year. So, in this poll people are clearly discounting his rushing ability. If you extrapolate his last 8 games, he would have thrown for 2,874 yards with 14 TDs while rushing for 830 yards and 10 TDs. So, only about 10% of those polled have him performing in-line or better on his rushing stats than he did in the second half of last year. Having been active in most of the Vince Young debate threads, I have just seen many more comparisons to Vick (6'0", 215#) then other, recent prolific rushing QBs like Culpepper (6'4", 265#) and Donovan McNabb (6'2", 240#) who had more rushing TDs early in their career than Vick has--and who are more comparable in size to Young. Other big, non-mobile QBs like Roethlisberger and Manning typically get a couple close-in rushing TDs per year. At 6'4" and 235# I think Young will get both the close-in TDs of a big QB plus some of the the open field TDs of Vick. As a result, I think people are going to under-estimate his rushing ability--as they have in this poll.I think you're underestimating people quite a bit.I think the big issue with Vince Young is also the disparity between his passing stats and his fantasy football scoring. I think many people inherently discount the rushing statistics--or they compare him to Michael Vick. Vick only averages 4.5 rushing TDs per year. Because of Vince Young's size he could easily get 6+ (he had 7 last year). If he puts up the kind of rushing stats he had last year (in less than a full season) and he shows any improvement as a passer, he could be a top 5 QB with only around 20 passing TDs.The big issue isn't the hype, it's the varied opinions on VY. He's a polarizing fantasy player, which means he'll get drafted highly. It doesn't matter if half your league wouldn't touch him in the first 12 rounds, because someone in your league will take him in the 6th.i am shocked. i think the hype will grow as the summer goes on.i will try to capture snapshots of the pole over time and post in thread time dating them.it's like a time capsule but without the crappy pop culture time items like weebles and pet rocks.
1. Why would one project for Young to play in fewer than 14 games next year? 2. What is the basis for a 32% reduction in his TDs per game when the last big, rushing QB (culpepper) averaged 0.5 TDs/game--similar to Young's ratio last year??? Arguing that last year was the 13th best year for a QB ever isn't a good argument. If a guy hits the 13th most home runs ever does that mean that he's not going to ever do better than that? 3. I would hope that most people would expect him to do better than he did in his first few pro games. You seem to be stuck on issues of "most" or other measures of relative performance--which proves my point that people are going to arbitrarily discount his rushing based on these relative analyses. Six TDs might be the "most" for a QB, but we don't get fantasy points for "most"...we need to project his actual total and that is where I think people are going to subjectively under-estimate him.
How can I be cherry picking when I looked at TDs per game over a 3-year period? BTW, I notice that you didn't mention that Culpepper only played in 11 games the year he had 5 TDs. Culpepper was a big, mobile QB why shouldn't we look at what he did when people are constantly comparing Young to a much smaller Vick?
You're cherry picking because if you look at Culpepper's TDs per game over a 2-year period, or a 4-year period or a 5-year period for that matter, you get much lower numbers. And you're also cherry-picking because running QBs are more likely to get hurt, thus per-game numbers will overstate their likely production relative to non-running QBs. (And in fact, Culpepper did get hurt in his second year, and his fourth year and sixth and seventh years). I agree that Young is more comparable to Culpepper than Vick, but he's even more comparable to McNair than Culpepper, and McNair only had 2 seasons in his career with more than 5 TDs, and also wound up hurt a lot.
Yes. I started to type "Thats hard to say blah blah" but figured I'd man up and give a straight answer.However, the way the Titans won games last year was exciting, unpredictable and just ugly last year. Like I said they overachieved. So I also think that it's possible that they don't win more games, but still field a better team.I feel VY will improve upon his play from last year, and that we have improved our defense. If Pac's suspension gets reduced, even just a few games, I think that could be the deciding factor.
