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I was hoping Lang would drop down to PIT at #96.There isnt alot more guys I would consider taking in the 3rd round at the OL position (most of the guys I was targeting in the first round were taken, and the guys I had targeted in the 2nd round were taken). This is why I decided to go with higher rated players on my "big board".
Nice one, guy.I happen to think if the Raiders address the line, it'll ba an interior guy, or a swingman. We need a RG, and maybe a C.One said:
If the players you are targeting at certain spots end up going before those spots, then perhaps they're all valued higher than you think...which means it wouldn't be a reach to grab a Loadholt @ 32 or a Lang @ 64. Now you're staring down the barrell of waiting until Rd. 4 which is precisely what happened last year and what we can't allow to happen this year.
Don't you think having a CB and DE (who could later play LB as I posted, which you neglected to take into account) would be important? Or would you rather take a OL (Beatty) who MAYBE (being VERY kind here) could beat out W. Colon at the RT position. Beatty is the #6 ranked OT on my list and I have projected going in the 2nd round. I had my list ranked with Alex Mack at the top, an offensive lineman who would project well for the PIT. I also had Eben Britton up high too. Anyway, he got selected. I came down to A. Smith (who was ranked #32 in my list overall, #2 CB (tied with Butler), and Beatty (who was ranked #43 by me overall, and the 6th overall OT). You would reach for an OT, who would most likely NOT start this season in lieu of Smith, who would have a great opportunity to start at CB this season?I took Alphonso Smith, CB, (WF) at 1.32
I agree with Hank on this one. The Steelers don't have a great O-line but they do have depth at the position, are young so they should improve, and they did win a SB while facing the toughest schedule in years with this group last season.The Steelers are very old and much thinner on the defensive line. We've all seen what happened to the defense in 2007 when Aaron Smith went down (couldn't stop the run) and he isn't getting any younger. The Steelers need for depth on the DL is absolutely critical.The Steelers also need help at CB. The jury is out on Gay and Deshea Townsend is older than Chuck Noll. If the Steelers can get the #2 CB in the draft that will compete for the starting CB spot AND serve as a return man (another BIG area of need) then I am all for it.Now don't get me wrong -- I agree the Steelers need to upgrade the offensive line and if a decent lineman is available then by all means take him. However the Steelers need at DE and CB are just as important.This is the approach the Steelers have taken for years and it has worked well. I see no reason to change philosophy now...
The point here is this: if the players you are projecting at certain spots are going before those spots, then you are undervaluing those players. There is a reason the first round is loaded with people taking O-lineman...because having a good O-line is imperative. I think you're undervaluing your O linemen. We won the Superbowl in spite of the O line. Please don't fall into the trap that they're good enough. Because of our strategy with the Oline, Max Starks has become one of the most grossly overpaid NFL players and a huge cap drain compared to his relative value on the team.
I was thinking a 5 rounder would be a good idea....maybe save the full 7 rounds till the week before the draft or something closer.
I agree with this
I'd be OK with 4 rounds. After that, the prospects become fuzzy for me. The FFB relevant (skill positions) I'd be good with through 6 or 7 rounds but I can't pretend to have an opinion on anything over the top 100-150 players. At best I could use other people's rankings.
nice pick
Yea, I was really hoping Mack would fall down.I thought that it was great value with Alphonso falling down and I went for it (gut decision). Did I consider Beatty for the pick? I did. But I went with the CB over OT. Either way it's a good player, Beatty would've most likely sat this season, but probably would've started 2010. Smith would step in at #3-4 CB, which plays alot in Lebeau's D and would start out on ST returning kicks and punts. In addition to having an aging D line, and a "suspect" o-line, having Gary Russell return kicks again is something that I DO NOT have in mind.
Who was the 3.16 pick?
I thought SD took Urbik and then DEN took Beckwith at 3.15 and that is where we were when you made the last pick.
Yeah, my bad. I had Ubrik put down twice. So Carver is up for the 'Skins pick and we'll put the Tampa pick on ice for a bit. First post is correct now.
I actually don't mind the Smith pick, but once you do that, I think it makes it absolutely imperative you get an OL in rd 2. We did the same thing last year. Carolina snaked the last OL that we wanted at our spot and we just felt like there was too much value in Mendenhall...so we took him, probably with everyone thinking we'll get an OL in rd 2. Then Sweed is there and everyone thinks there's so much value there....etc., etc., and so on to the point where we draft 1 OL in the 4th. Unless Hills is a lot better than we know (and maybe he is), that strategy didn't really work. It remains to be seen the value of Mendenhall and Sweed, but at some point you have to stop the bleeding. As much as I agree with you regarding having Gary Russell returning kicks, I don't ever want to see our rushing YPC where it was again either.
To be honest I do not know enough about Beatty to argue with you here. If the Steelers feel that Beatty can definitely start next season (if not this season) then I am right there with you. I also don't like the fact that we have had to grossly overpay for Starks' services.
7 days 83 picks is almost 12 per day. Not bad.2 more rounds would take less than a week, well before the draft.
Just pick dude
What if the Packers wanted to take him? I actually think it would have been a good pick for the Pack too.
Says he was on at 12:20 AM... that would have been a good time to let us know.
I wouldn't want to make another bad choice if I were him either.
I wish he would ask ask other Pack fan for ideas.
It's not up to me... but since he's been on since it's been his turn, I'd have you make the pick instead.I wouldn't want to make another bad choice if I were him either.
I haven't been following along but one of us could get caught up pretty quickly if Andy wishes.It's not up to me... but since he's been on since it's been his turn, I'd have you make the pick instead.I wouldn't want to make another bad choice if I were him either.
If you need someone to make Miami's pick, let me know. They're the other team I follow closely.
Go ahead and do it. I'm interested to see what you'd do at this point.
Nice. My #1 player remaining. Also the guy Idiot Boxer was hoping Hank would be trading up for. Countdown to meltdown...
He's a good player, but Im focusing on different aspects of the line. OG is not something the Steelers need (Just resigned Kemoeatu and Essex, Stapleton is under contract for a long time and is only 23)OT is a much more pertinent issue.
I like it.I'm heading out for the day. Be excellent to each other and let Blackjacks know when he's up at pick 91 since I don't have time to update post #1.
Does anybody remember if WuBanger is still playing? I remember him being late, but I don't remember if he was replaced or if that was somebody else.
