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Shaun Alexander = HOF RB? (1 Viewer)

Red Herring

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I realize he's still pretty young, but barring a career ending injury, it seems he's a sure thing based on this: all but two of the 11 RBs to be NFL MVp since 1970 are or will be HOFers: OJ Simpson, Walter Payton, Earl Campbell, Eric Dickerson, Marcus Allen, Thurman Thomas, Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders, and Marshall Faulk.

Only Larry Brown and Terrell Davis are on the outside looking in.

Considering SA's consistency, I can see just 2-3 more productive seasons esuring him a bust in Canton. Thoughts?

 
He'll need to hit about 12K yards and 100 tds, which he'll do easily within the next 3 years barring injury. Not a particularly exciting choice, but you can't deny the consistency.

 
He'll need to hit about 12K yards and 100 tds, which he'll do easily within the next 3 years barring injury. Not a particularly exciting choice, but you can't deny the consistency.
He already has 100 TD, and that's kind of the point to the argument that he is a lock.
 
SA is one of those players whose stats would lead you to believe that he was/is a dominate player, but when you watch him play you notice that he does not just "TAKE OVER" a game. I think he stats are impressive and might get him in the HOF but I can name many backs currently playing that I would choose ahead of SA if I was drafting a real NFL team (Not a Fantasy team).

 
He'll need to hit about 12K yards and 100 tds, which he'll do easily within the next 3 years barring injury.  Not a particularly exciting choice, but you can't deny the consistency.
He already has 100 TD, and that's kind of the point to the argument that he is a lock.
You are correct. 12K 100tds seems to be the "legal limit" for a modern era HOF. He's already got the 100tds and should easily get the yards, thus the lock.
 
SA is one of those players whose stats would lead you to believe that he was/is a dominate player, but when you watch him play you notice that he does not just "TAKE OVER" a game. I think he stats are impressive and might get him in the HOF but I can name many backs currently playing that I would choose ahead of SA if I was drafting a real NFL team (Not a Fantasy team).
I would like to see your list of many backs currently playing that you would choose ahead of SA if you were an NFL GM.
 
SA is one of those players whose stats would lead you to believe that he was/is a dominate player, but when you watch him play you notice that he does not just "TAKE OVER" a game. I think he stats are impressive and might get him in the HOF but I can name many backs currently playing that I would choose ahead of SA if I was drafting a real NFL team (Not a Fantasy team).
I don't give a crap how pretty they look while doing it, SA is an elitle back, period. I think he'll be a HOFer before all is said and done, REAL close already. :thumbup:
 
SA is one of those players whose stats would lead you to believe that he was/is a dominate player, but when you watch him play you notice that he does not just "TAKE OVER" a game. I think he stats are impressive and might get him in the HOF but I can name many backs currently playing that I would choose ahead of SA if I was drafting a real NFL team (Not a Fantasy team).
I would like to see your list of many backs currently playing that you would choose ahead of SA if you were an NFL GM.
Rememeber this is not a fantasy football draftHere are the list of my backs

1. LT (without a doubt)

2. Edge

3. Clinton Portis

4. KC Running back - (Priest Holmes or this year LJ)

5. Tiki Barber

oh, yea I know everyone is not going to agree but that is part of the fun.

 
SA is one of those players whose stats would lead you to believe that he was/is a dominate player, but when you watch him play you notice that he does not just "TAKE OVER" a game. I think he stats are impressive and might get him in the HOF but I can name many backs currently playing that I would choose ahead of SA if I was drafting a real NFL team (Not a Fantasy team).
Someone doesn't watch seahawk games...... 27 TDs ...... what else does a guy have to do? Maybe if he was an ### like TO people would respect him more.
 
SA is one of those players whose stats would lead you to believe that he was/is a dominate player, but when you watch him play you notice that he does not just "TAKE OVER" a game. I think he stats are impressive and might get him in the HOF but I can name many backs currently playing that I would choose ahead of SA if I was drafting a real NFL team (Not a Fantasy team).
Someone doesn't watch seahawk games...... 27 TDs ...... what else does a guy have to do? Maybe if he was an ### like TO people would respect him more.
I'd have to agree with perry147.Alexander never really takes over a game like a lot of HoF RBs.

The large percentage of those TDs came within the 5 yard line. A lot of RBs in the league could have ran for those TDs behind Seattle's FOUR Pro Bowl blockers.

Alexander's situation is similar to Emmitt Smith. Good RB in great system and will never know how much helps the other. He will be going to Canton though, thats a lock IMO.

 
yup, HOF-er.

But when I watch him, I don't really get the feeling that I'm seeing one of the greatest rbs of all time.

 
SA is one of those players whose stats would lead you to believe that he was/is a dominate player, but when you watch him play you notice that he does not just "TAKE OVER" a game. I think he stats are impressive and might get him in the HOF but I can name many backs currently playing that I would choose ahead of SA if I was drafting a real NFL team (Not a Fantasy team).
Someone doesn't watch seahawk games...... 27 TDs ...... what else does a guy have to do? Maybe if he was an ### like TO people would respect him more.
How about that time he cried about not getting the rushing title....... :thumbdown:
 
yup, HOF-er.

But when I watch him, I don't really get the feeling that I'm seeing one of the greatest rbs of all time.
It's funny how people look at things differently.I love to watch Shaun Alexander run. The way he reads and sets up his blockers is fun to watch as well the way he glides in the open field. He's far different from Barry Sanders, but still a joy to watch operate. I always make it a point to watch Seahawk games.

 
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It's funny how people look at things differently.

I love to watch Shaun Alexander run. The way he reads and sets up his blockers is fun to watch as well the way he glides in the open field. He's far different from Barry Sanders, but still a joy to watch operate.
I agree.This reminds me of a caller I heard on the radio one day complaining about the state of the NFL and there were no great QBs like Montana or Elway any more. He said everyone would rather watch a great QB than a great RB. I couldn't disagree with him more. It's fun to watch good QBs, but I also love seeing RBs set-up blockers, shift through openings, and/or power over defenders. :thumbup:

 
SA is one of those players whose stats would lead you to believe that he was/is a dominate player, but when you watch him play you notice that he does not just "TAKE OVER" a game. I think he stats are impressive and might get him in the HOF but I can name many backs currently playing that I would choose ahead of SA if I was drafting a real NFL team (Not a Fantasy team).
Someone doesn't watch seahawk games...... 27 TDs ...... what else does a guy have to do? Maybe if he was an ### like TO people would respect him more.
I'd have to agree with perry147.Alexander never really takes over a game like a lot of HoF RBs.

The large percentage of those TDs came within the 5 yard line. A lot of RBs in the league could have ran for those TDs behind Seattle's FOUR Pro Bowl blockers.

Alexander's situation is similar to Emmitt Smith. Good RB in great system and will never know how much helps the other. He will be going to Canton though, thats a lock IMO.
I agree mostly but I never liked the "short yardage TD" argument. He led the league in yards (and 1 yard behind the leader the year before). So he gets a ton of the yardage of the team so it's not like he comes in for short TDs. Who gets the team inside the 5 yard line? If he didn't get so much yardage I would lend more weight to that particular argument. And I am far from an SA lover. I think he's a damn fine RB and if his numbers conitnue like they are he's a lock for HoF, but he has the benefit of running through monster holes from his probowl blockers.

 
SA is one of those players whose stats would lead you to believe that he was/is a dominate player, but when you watch him play you notice that he does not just "TAKE OVER" a game.
I remember watching him score 4 or 5 TDs in a half a few years back. If that's not dominance what is
 
For some reason people want him to run behind an inferior line than what he has in Seattle to legitimize his stats. That, to me, is like saying Montana and Young shouldnt be HOFer because they always had Rice to throw to. Was Emmitt ever touched before he gained 5 yards (becuase his Oline was incredible)?

Its a team game and SA plays his part at a HOF level

 
SA is one of those players whose stats would lead you to believe that he was/is a dominate player, but when you watch him play you notice that he does not just "TAKE OVER" a game.
I remember watching him score 4 or 5 TDs in a half a few years back. If that's not dominance what is
That was a complete collapse by the Vikings on every level. They made EVERY Seahawk look good in that game.
 
For some reason people want him to run behind an inferior line than what he has in Seattle to legitimize his stats. That, to me, is like saying Montana and Young shouldnt be HOFer because they always had Rice to throw to. Was Emmitt ever touched before he gained 5 yards (becuase his Oline was incredible)?

Its a team game and SA plays his part at a HOF level
That's the reason that, other than Cowboys' fans, nobody honestly considers Emmitt among the all-time great backs. He's got the numbers, but he also had an entire line of Pro-bowlers in front of him along with a Pro-bowl TE and FB (along with a couple HOFers in the passing game). Dang near anyone could have put up monster stats behind that.It doesn't sound like too many people here are saying Alexander shouldn't be a HOFer, just that he will never be considered one of the elite backs.

 
How many RB's have had:

A season like : ATT YDS AVG LNG TD

2005 370 1880 5.1 88 27

Basically 5 years:

G ATT YDS AVG TD's

Career 96 1717 7817 4.6 89

And you all think Jerome Bettis is a HOFer?? I hope not..........the lame media does.....

SA is what a HOFer should be........... 3 more seasons and he will be a lock!

 
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SA is one of those players whose stats would lead you to believe that he was/is a dominate player, but when you watch him play you notice that he does not just "TAKE OVER" a game.
This is assine. He ran for 1800 plus and 27td's last year. How could he do that and not take over some games2005

Week Yds Rsh YPC TD's

3 140 6.4 4

6 141 6.4 4

9 173 7.3 2

10 165 5.0 3

16 139 6.6 2

 
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How many RB's have had:

A season like : ATT YDS AVG LNG TD

2005 370 1880 5.1 88 27

Basically 5 years:

G ATT YDS AVG TD's

Career 96 1717 7817 4.6 89

And you all think Jerome Bettis is a HOFer?? I hope not..........the lame media does.....

SA is what a HOFer should be........... 3 more seasons and he will be a lock!
Alexander is most definitely an HOF because of his numbers. So is Bettis, despite his numbers.
 
I would like to see your list of many backs currently playing that you would choose ahead of SA if you were an NFL GM.
5 Ronnie Brown

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:lmao:

Well, to be fair, if you were starting a franchise you'd definitely take a cheaper back with a longer career ahead of him than a massively expensive established RB. Right?

 
I would like to see your list of many backs currently playing that you would choose ahead of SA if you were an NFL GM.
5 Ronnie Brown :football:
:lmao:
Well, to be fair, if you were starting a franchise you'd definitely take a cheaper back with a longer career ahead of him than a massively expensive established RB. Right?
If I were starting a team I would take Shaun Alexander if my plan was to be competitive right away. If my plan was to be competitive in 3 years, there are obviously a number of other backs I would take ahead of both Brown and Alexander.Cadillac Williams, Reggie Bush, Portis, LT etc. etc.

 
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