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Sherman, Favre & TO (Herm Edwards leaving?) (1 Viewer)

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USA Today
Keep an eye on Jets coach Herm Edwards. It's possible he could wind up in Kansas City if **** Vermeil retires, as expected. But it's likely Edwards will stay in New York, where rumored interest could get him more security on a deal with two remaining years
Fox Sports
Rumors swirl around Herm Newark Star-Ledger (registration required) Star-Ledger scribe Dave Hutchinson says speculation is already beginning to build regarding the future of Jets coach Herm Edwards. Succeeding mentor **** Vermeil in Kansas City is one possibility, as are leaving for a college job or staying put in New York for the remaining two years on his contract.
PackersNews.com
Favre says Owens ‘a great player’: Favre didn’t immediately dismiss Philadelphia receiver Terrell Owens as a player he’d never want around.
MSNBC
Favre says he might bail if Sherman fired'That could be the straw that breaks the camel’s back,' QB saysUpdated: 11:48 a.m. ET Nov. 4, 2005GREEN BAY, Wis. - Brett Favre says he would be reluctant to return to Green Bay next season if Mike Sherman isn’t still coaching the Packers.The Packers (1-6) are off to their worst start since 1991, which has led to speculation about Sherman’s future.In an interview with The Associated Press on Thursday, Favre said Sherman’s status would play an important role in his annual decision to keep on playing or to call it a career.
I still think we could see Mike Sherman, Brett Favre and TO as Jets in 2006.That's crazy I know, but I'm Writting it here.
 
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Edwards to KC rumor I can see, but where in the world did you get Sherman, Farve & TO to the Jets? :confused:

 
Edwards to KC rumor I can see, but where in the world did you get Sherman, Farve & TO to the Jets? :confused:
:goodposting: your posted news quotes mention nothing about Sherman aka the "Pear Shaped Loser", Favre and TO going to the jets.

And Favre thinks Owens is a great player? Thats cool but that doesn't mean anything. I think Owens is a great player too that doesn't mean he is going to stop by my house and hang out with me.

 
Edwards to KC rumor I can see, but where in the world did you get Sherman, Farve & TO to the Jets?  :confused:
:goodposting: your posted news quotes mention nothing about Sherman aka the "Pear Shaped Loser", Favre and TO going to the jets.

And Favre thinks Owens is a great player? Thats cool but that doesn't mean anything. I think Owens is a great player too that doesn't mean he is going to stop by my house and hang out with me.
All true guys. Like I said crazy prediction.But Imagine if you will...

Sherman gets fired, Favre leaves w/ him like he said he would. (Green Bay begins to rebuild as we all know they must)

Edwards is gone, Jets need a QB and hey Sherman can bring along a Hall of Famer if he becomes the new Jets coach.

Farve likes TO, maybe this Hall of Fame QB can handle TO.

The Jets want a winner, it's New York. TO signs w/ the Jets because its the #1 market in the world.

Money, money, money.

That would be some crazy chain of events that would have to happen for this to become reality. But possible? Yes.

 
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I respect "crazy predictions" as much as the next guy, but besides the rumors of Edwards going to KC the rest of your prediction is as baseless as predicting that TO will play centerfield for the Yankees: Yankees need a centerfielder, To needs a job and loves media attention, Steinbrener loves media attention too, TO becomes centerfielder for the Yankees.Good luck with the prediction! :thumbup:

 
Favre's been talking retirement for years. When he says he may not return to Green Bay if Sherman doesn't, he means he'd retire.I'd say there's less than a 10% chance of Favre playing for a team other than the Pack in his NFL career.

 
Favre's been talking retirement for years. When he says he may not return to Green Bay if Sherman doesn't, he means he'd retire.

I'd say there's less than a 10% chance of Favre playing for a team other than the Pack in his NFL career.
0% chance.If he deosn;t play in GB he's done.

Red apples?? Jets fan?

 
Favre's been talking retirement for years. When he says he may not return to Green Bay if Sherman doesn't, he means he'd retire.

I'd say there's less than a 10% chance of Favre playing for a team other than the Pack in his NFL career.
0% chance.If he deosn;t play in GB he's done.

Red apples?? Jets fan?
Bears fan... at least till LA gets a team.
 
Anybody who thinks Favre wil ever leave Green Bay is high. If/when Sherman gets canned, Favre will lobby for someone he likes like Mooch or Big Show to come to Green Bay.Wishful thinking.

 
Edwards to KC rumor I can see, but where in the world did you get Sherman, Farve & TO to the Jets?  :confused:
:goodposting: your posted news quotes mention nothing about Sherman aka the "Pear Shaped Loser", Favre and TO going to the jets.

And Favre thinks Owens is a great player? Thats cool but that doesn't mean anything. I think Owens is a great player too that doesn't mean he is going to stop by my house and hang out with me.
All true guys. Like I said crazy prediction.But Imagine if you will...

Sherman gets fired, Favre leaves w/ him like he said he would. (Green Bay begins to rebuild as we all know they must)

Edwards is gone, Jets need a QB and hey Sherman can bring along a Hall of Famer if he becomes the new Jets coach.

Farve likes TO, maybe this Hall of Fame QB can handle TO.

The Jets want a winner, it's New York. TO signs w/ the Jets because its the #1 market in the world.

Money, money, money.

That would be some crazy chain of events that would have to happen for this to become reality. But possible? Hell NO!
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if Sherman, Farve & TO end up with the same franchise...it isn't going to be the jets :confused:
 
Keeping you guys in the loop on my crazy prediction....New York Jets

Last year, they were outbid for Randy Moss, so obviously they want a big play receiver. The Jets might be a good fit for Owens as head-coach Herman Edwards commands respect from all players around the league and has never had a player challenge his authority. One GM said, "[Terrell Owens] is not even an issue. He's [Herman Edwards] had some guys who have been harder to manage and he's done fine." Other GM's raised questions about how Owens would respond to the rabid New York City media: "There's even more opportunity to say something stupid. He's almost better off going someplace where he could hide." Knowing Owens' opinion on Donovan McNabb's ability as a quarterback, he probably wouldn't like playing for a New York football team with the questionable and injury-prone Chad Pennington or a rookie quarterback that it is likely they will pick in the draft. Still, knowing that there are only four teams possibly interested in him, TO might have to settle for the Jets.
If Jets could be interested in TO if Edwards stays... then imagine if Edwards leaves Jets hire Sherman & here comes Favre.
 
USA Today

Keep an eye on Jets coach Herm Edwards. It's possible he could wind up in Kansas City if **** Vermeil retires, as expected. But it's likely Edwards will stay in New York, where rumored interest could get him more security on a deal with two remaining years
Fox Sports
Rumors swirl around Herm

Newark Star-Ledger (registration required)

Star-Ledger scribe Dave Hutchinson says speculation is already beginning to build regarding the future of Jets coach Herm Edwards. Succeeding mentor **** Vermeil in Kansas City is one possibility, as are leaving for a college job or staying put in New York for the remaining two years on his contract.
PackersNews.com
Favre says Owens ‘a great player’: Favre didn’t immediately dismiss Philadelphia receiver Terrell Owens as a player he’d never want around.
MSNBC
Favre says he might bail if Sherman fired

'That could be the straw that breaks the camel’s back,' QB says

Updated: 11:48 a.m. ET Nov. 4, 2005

GREEN BAY, Wis. - Brett Favre says he would be reluctant to return to Green Bay next season if Mike Sherman isn’t still coaching the Packers.

The Packers (1-6) are off to their worst start since 1991, which has led to speculation about Sherman’s future.

In an interview with The Associated Press on Thursday, Favre said Sherman’s status would play an important role in his annual decision to keep on playing or to call it a career.
I still think we could see Mike Sherman, Brett Favre and TO as Jets in 2006.That's crazy I know, but I'm Writting it here.
...and then he woke up in a wet bed.Let me guess, you're the idiot that wears the Jets hardhat at the NFL Draft every April. ;)

 
USA Today

Keep an eye on Jets coach Herm Edwards. It's possible he could wind up in Kansas City if **** Vermeil retires, as expected. But it's likely Edwards will stay in New York, where rumored interest could get him more security on a deal with two remaining years
Fox Sports
Rumors swirl around Herm

Newark Star-Ledger (registration required)

Star-Ledger scribe Dave Hutchinson says speculation is already beginning to build regarding the future of Jets coach Herm Edwards. Succeeding mentor **** Vermeil in Kansas City is one possibility, as are leaving for a college job or staying put in New York for the remaining two years on his contract.
PackersNews.com
Favre says Owens ‘a great player’: Favre didn’t immediately dismiss Philadelphia receiver Terrell Owens as a player he’d never want around.
MSNBC
Favre says he might bail if Sherman fired

'That could be the straw that breaks the camel’s back,' QB says

Updated: 11:48 a.m. ET Nov. 4, 2005

GREEN BAY, Wis. - Brett Favre says he would be reluctant to return to Green Bay next season if Mike Sherman isn’t still coaching the Packers.

The Packers (1-6) are off to their worst start since 1991, which has led to speculation about Sherman’s future.

In an interview with The Associated Press on Thursday, Favre said Sherman’s status would play an important role in his annual decision to keep on playing or to call it a career.
I still think we could see Mike Sherman, Brett Favre and TO as Jets in 2006.That's crazy I know, but I'm Writting it here.
...and then he woke up in a wet bed.Let me guess, you're the idiot that wears the Jets hardhat at the NFL Draft every April. ;)
ha, no dude, im a bears fan who lives in LA, but i can see the writing on the wall.favre in the home that broadway joe built. sherman (after edwards is fired)reunites w/ favre and TO is there to make money his money in NY.

i'll keep us updated, until i am proven wromg and then i'll slink away & hide.

 
USA Today

Keep an eye on Jets coach Herm Edwards. It's possible he could wind up in Kansas City if **** Vermeil retires, as expected. But it's likely Edwards will stay in New York, where rumored interest could get him more security on a deal with two remaining years
Fox Sports
Rumors swirl around Herm

Newark Star-Ledger (registration required)

Star-Ledger scribe Dave Hutchinson says speculation is already beginning to build regarding the future of Jets coach Herm Edwards. Succeeding mentor **** Vermeil in Kansas City is one possibility, as are leaving for a college job or staying put in New York for the remaining two years on his contract.
PackersNews.com
Favre says Owens ‘a great player’: Favre didn’t immediately dismiss Philadelphia receiver Terrell Owens as a player he’d never want around.
MSNBC
Favre says he might bail if Sherman fired

'That could be the straw that breaks the camel’s back,' QB says

Updated: 11:48 a.m. ET Nov. 4, 2005

GREEN BAY, Wis. - Brett Favre says he would be reluctant to return to Green Bay next season if Mike Sherman isn’t still coaching the Packers.

The Packers (1-6) are off to their worst start since 1991, which has led to speculation about Sherman’s future.

In an interview with The Associated Press on Thursday, Favre said Sherman’s status would play an important role in his annual decision to keep on playing or to call it a career.
I still think we could see Mike Sherman, Brett Favre and TO as Jets in 2006.That's crazy I know, but I'm Writting it here.
...and then he woke up in a wet bed.Let me guess, you're the idiot that wears the Jets hardhat at the NFL Draft every April. ;)
ha, no dude, im a bears fan who lives in LA, but i can see the writing on the wall.favre in the home that broadway joe built. sherman (after edwards is fired)reunites w/ favre and TO is there to make money his money in NY.

i'll keep us updated, until i am proven wromg and then i'll slink away & hide.
There is one tiny lil problem with all of this day dream.... it's called a salary cap!
 
salary cap?TO won't be commanding much of a salary based on this years mess. plus he'll give a little to work in the biggest market in the world.favre, will also take less money for one last shot at a title and yeah the whole ny market thing too.

 
salary cap?

TO won't be commanding much of a salary based on this years mess. plus he'll give a little to work in the biggest market in the world.

favre, will also take less money for one last shot at a title and yeah the whole ny market thing too.
Even IF Owens could be had for some bargain basement price, between the two of them, it's got to be 6mil, most likely more. The Jets don't have that sort of cap room, unless they let Abraham walk and keep Pennington who would be a 12 mil cap hit if he were cut. Besides that, it looks like they will need top five money in this next draft.... nope, but it is nice to dream!
 
Link
Mike Sherman, Packers -- Sherman lost all power last January when the Packers hired Ted Thompson as general manager. The Packers, a three-time defending divisional champion, were eliminated from the playoffs Nov. 27, and now, Sherman appears to be finished in Green Bay.Herman Edwards, Jets -- Last week, Vermeil told Kansas City reporters that "Herman Edwards right now maybe should be voted Coach of the Year." It rekindled rumors that Edwards, who played for Vermeil in Philadelphia, will be Vermeil's replacement. Edwards has two years remaining on his contract and has said he would be back in 2006. He is not expected to be fired, so the Chiefs, in effect, would have to work out a trade.
So Vermeil retires, talks up Edwards & now it looks like Mike Sherman is headed out too.
 
Another day closer....Edward's Future in Doubt

NFL.com wire reports HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. (Jan. 2, 2006) -- Though Herman Edwards maintains he will return as Jets coach, the team should expect a phone call from the Kansas City Chiefs in the coming days. A person familiar with the situation, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the Chiefs plan to contact the organization for permission to speak with Edwards about taking over for **** Vermeil. Edwards and the Chiefs have been linked for the last six weeks, when it became apparent Vermeil was considering retirement. Now that Vermeil made that decision final, it clears the way for his former player to get a shot at the job. It is unclear whether the Jets would grant permission to the Chiefs to talk to Edwards. Chiefs spokesman Pete Moris told the AP he could neither confirm nor deny that the team had asked permission from the Jets to speak with Edwards. Teams can request permission to speak to coaches under contract once the season is over. Chiefs president and general manager Carl Peterson said after the finale he would be willing to talk to Edwards if the Jets called and gave him permission. Peterson said he had a list of people he wanted to contact, but revealed only one name: offensive coordinator Al Saunders. Edwards reiterated once again Jan. 2 he isn't going anywhere, and hasn't been contacted by any teams with a job opening. "I'm happy to be the coach here and I'm going to be the coach here, like I said before, and that's as far as I want to comment on it," Edwards said. But the source said Edwards might receive interest from other teams, including the Raiders, who are expected to fire Norv Turner. Edwards appears to be caught in a no-win situation. Though team owner Woody Johnson said in November he wants Edwards to return, he hasn't spoken publicly since, allowing the speculation to fester. Edwards is believed to want out, but he may consider himself in a difficult spot and must decide if he wants a contract extension to remain with a team expected to go through a rebuilding process. Johnson has made it clear he doesn't want to spend money on high-priced players, the source said, making it even more difficult to rebuild. Another point of contention is Edwards' salary. He makes about $2 million a year, among the bottom third of NFL coaches, and it is believed Edwards wants a raise as a reward for the progress he made in five years. If Edwards stays and doesn't get the extension he wants, one option is to coach one more year, resign and wait a year before he gets back into the fray. Edwards didn't address his situation with the players in their final team meeting, but they expect him to return. "He didn't say I'm going to be here, but he never said I'm not going to be here," center Kevin Mawae said. "It was his normal approach: 'He's the coach, this is what we expect out of you guys.' There's no reason to believe that he wouldn't be." Edwards has ties to the Chiefs and Peterson, who tried to recruit Edwards to go to UCLA, then signed him as an undrafted free agent with Philadelphia, and gave him his first NFL job as an executive in the Chiefs' player personnel department in 1990. When the Jets played Kansas City to open the 2005 season, Edwards and his wife had dinner with Peterson and his wife -- something Peterson said was rare for him to do during the year. But there is one major stumbling block ahead should the Jets allow Edwards to talk to another team: The Chiefs would have to give up draft picks because Edwards has two years remaining on his contract. Kansas City had to give up a second- and third-round pick when it hired Vermeil, who was technically under contract with St. Louis even though he was retired. Peterson was upset about that, and the price will be higher this time around because Edwards currently is coaching.
Mike Sherman Fired
GREEN BAY, Wis. (Jan. 2, 2005) -- Green Bay fired coach Mike Sherman Jan. 2, a day after the Packers finished their worst season in 15 years. "At the end of the day I felt like we needed to go in a different direction," Packers general manager Ted Thompson said at a news conference. Mike Sherman is gone after one subpar season in Green Bay. The Packers closed their season with a win over Seattle Jan. 1 as Brett Favre threw his first touchdown pass in five games, but finished with a 4-12 record. Sherman's first five years brought success but not another title in Green Bay. His record was 53-27 in the regular season, which was good enough to tie Steelers coach Bill Cowher for fifth among NFL coaches in their first 80 games. Sherman finished 57-39 in six seasons. Things began unraveling early in 2005 with injuries to top wide receiver Javon Walker and running backs Ahman Green and Najeh Davenport as the Packers started 1-7. Sherman, who signed a two-year contract extension in August, said throughout the year he wasn't concerned about his position and didn't feel he was coaching for his job. But Thompson sidestepped questions about Sherman's future in recent weeks and never gave him a public vote of confidence even after the Packers ended the season with a 23-17 win against the Seahawks. Thompson said he would start interviewing head coaching candidates this week.
 
for the record - there's no chance1) favre isn't going to play anywhere but green bay2) is sherman such a hot commodity that another team would consider hiring him?there's not even smoke here...and certainly no fire

 
Favre will not play for any team but the Packers. It's not like Green Bay wouldn't welcome him back if he decided to return for one more year...Could Herm go to KC? Sure. Sherman could end up in NY and TO could move to Cheesetown. But Favre leaving? That's crazy talk.

 
for the record - there's no chance

1) favre isn't going to play anywhere but green bay

2) is sherman such a hot commodity that another team would consider hiring him?

there's not even smoke here...and certainly no fire
Favre says he might bail if Sherman fired

'That could be the straw that breaks the camel’s back,' QB says

Updated: 11:48 a.m. ET Nov. 4, 2005

GREEN BAY, Wis. - Brett Favre says he would be reluctant to return to Green Bay next season if Mike Sherman isn’t still coaching the Packers.

The Packers (1-6) are off to their worst start since 1991, which has led to speculation about Sherman’s future.

In an interview with The Associated Press on Thursday, Favre said Sherman’s status would play an important role in his annual decision to keep on playing or to call it a career.
Brett Farve will be the new joey broadway for 1 season, going for 1 last shot. the chances are slim yes, but certainly no slimmer than a certain practice squad player jumping on the scene from nowhere.
 
NFL Network's Adam Shefter reports that the Jets and Chiefs are locked in "serious negotiations" regarding Herm Edwards.

 
for the record - there's no chance

1) favre isn't going to play anywhere but green bay

2) is sherman such a hot commodity that another team would consider hiring him?

there's not even smoke here...and certainly no fire
I think it's clear that Red Apples has had lots of smoke.
 
for the record - there's no chance

1) favre isn't going to play anywhere but green bay

2) is sherman such a hot commodity that another team would consider hiring him?

there's not even smoke here...and certainly no fire
I think it's clear that Red Apples has had lots of smoke.
:goodposting:
 
Herm Edwards Gone
Gang Green again is looking for another head coach.Late Wednesday night, 610 Sports radio in Kansas City reported that Herm Edwards would be free to leave the Jets and sign on to coach the Chiefs.The station reported that a source close to the Chiefs said the compensation deal the teams had been working on for two days was done and that Kansas City would send "two mid-level draft picks" to the Jets in exchange for allowing Edwards to escape the final two years of his contract.
 
Post on the ESPN JEts message board by a GB fan:Packer fan here, not a troll. but sports radio 1250 wssp in milwaukee is saying that Sherman is going to the jets if Edwards gets traded to the Chiefs or not. Here in WI, it was 50-50 waether or not he should have gotten fired. i was all for it. he is a very nice, classy man, but makes some poor play calling decisions and other game decisions such as punt/go for it or time managment. his playoff record is horrible. he also gets the team off to slow starts, and is very lucid. :o :unsure:

 
Post on the ESPN JEts message board by a GB fan:

Packer fan here, not a troll. but sports radio 1250 wssp in milwaukee is saying that Sherman is going to the jets if Edwards gets traded to the Chiefs or not.

Here in WI, it was 50-50 waether or not he should have gotten fired. i was all for it. he is a very nice, classy man, but makes some poor play calling decisions and other game decisions such as punt/go for it or time managment. his playoff record is horrible. he also gets the team off to slow starts, and is very lucid.

:o :unsure:
thanks for the update, its all coming together.
 
Post on the ESPN JEts message board by a GB fan:

Packer fan here, not a troll. but sports radio 1250 wssp in milwaukee is saying that Sherman is going to the jets if Edwards gets traded to the Chiefs or not.

Here in WI, it was 50-50 waether or not he should have gotten fired. i was all for it. he is a very nice, classy man, but makes some poor play calling decisions and other game decisions such as punt/go for it or time managment. his playoff record is horrible. he also gets the team off to slow starts, and is very lucid.

:o   :unsure:
thanks for the update, its all coming together.
:no:
 
Post on the ESPN JEts message board by a GB fan:

Packer fan here, not a troll. but sports radio 1250 wssp in milwaukee is saying that Sherman is going to the jets if Edwards gets traded to the Chiefs or not.

Here in WI, it was 50-50 waether or not he should have gotten fired. i was all for it. he is a very nice, classy man, but makes some poor play calling decisions and other game decisions such as punt/go for it or time managment. his playoff record is horrible. he also gets the team off to slow starts, and is very lucid.

:o :unsure:
thanks for the update, its all coming together.
Nobody thinks the Sherman part is all that outlandish. Even TO going there isn't unthinkable. It's the Favre thing that's :crazy:
 
New York Daily News

Anticipating Edwards' departure, the Jets have compiled a list of possible replacements.

Former Saints coach Jim Haslett, who was fired Monday after a 3-13 season, is on the list, two people confirmed. Former Giants coach and current Ravens offensive coordinator Jim Fassel also is being considered. The Chiefs, covering their bases, conducted a two-day interview with Fassel. Other potential Jets candidates are Giants defensive coordinator Tim Lewis, ex-Packers coach Mike Sherman and Steelers offensive line coach Russ Grimm.
 
Post on the ESPN JEts message board by a GB fan:

Packer fan here, not a troll. but sports radio 1250 wssp in milwaukee is saying that Sherman is going to the jets if Edwards gets traded to the Chiefs or not.

Here in WI, it was 50-50 waether or not he should have gotten fired. i was all for it. he is a very nice, classy man, but makes some poor play calling decisions and other game decisions such as punt/go for it or time managment. his playoff record is horrible. he also gets the team off to slow starts, and is very lucid.

:o   :unsure:
thanks for the update, its all coming together.
It's the Favre thing that's :crazy:
:goodposting:
 
It hasn't been mentioned before, but Dominick Davis is none too happy that the Texans have their eye on Reggie Bush. So why not have Davis end up with the Jets, too?And while we're about it, Tony Gonzalez is unhappy with the number of TD's he scored. How about Tony to the Jets?Eric Moulds is unhappy in Buffalo...ergo...he's going to the Jets.Where is my tube of mental vaseline? I'm using up a lot of it.

 
It hasn't been mentioned before, but Dominick Davis is none too happy that the Texans have their eye on Reggie Bush. So why not have Davis end up with the Jets, too?

And while we're about it, Tony Gonzalez is unhappy with the number of TD's he scored. How about Tony to the Jets?

Eric Moulds is unhappy in Buffalo...ergo...he's going to the Jets.

Where is my tube of mental vaseline? I'm using up a lot of it.
i think you Bs are forgetting I called all this on november 17th,sherman to the jets? crazy they said.

farve follows sherman crazy they say.

owens goes to NY at a much lower salary, crazy you say.

 
It hasn't been mentioned before, but Dominick Davis is none too happy that the Texans have their eye on Reggie Bush.  So why not have Davis end up with the Jets, too?

And while we're about it, Tony Gonzalez is unhappy with the number of TD's he scored.  How about Tony to the Jets?

Eric Moulds is unhappy in Buffalo...ergo...he's going to the Jets.

Where is my tube of mental vaseline? I'm using up a lot of it.
i think you Bs are forgetting I called all this on november 17th,sherman to the jets? crazy they said.

farve follows sherman crazy they say.

owens goes to NY at a much lower salary, crazy you say.
No, the crazy part is Favre. Maybe you'll have to add this thread to your sig too. :rolleyes:

 
Post on the ESPN JEts message board by a GB fan:

Packer fan here, not a troll. but sports radio 1250 wssp in milwaukee is saying that Sherman is going to the jets if Edwards gets traded to the Chiefs or not.

Here in WI, it was 50-50 waether or not he should have gotten fired. i was all for it. he is a very nice, classy man, but makes some poor play calling decisions and other game decisions such as punt/go for it or time managment. his playoff record is horrible. he also gets the team off to slow starts, and is very lucid.

:o :unsure:
If WSSP 1250 is reporting that Sherman is going to the Jets he certainly isn't going to end up there! Heard this same report on the radio and it wasn't anything more than the guy speculating.
 

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