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Shockey rips Coughlin (1 Viewer)

Assani Fisher

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SEATTLE (Sept. 24, 2006) -- Flat doesn't begin to describe the New York Giants' start to their supposed showdown with Seattle.

Flattened is more like it.

Seahawks quarterback Matt Hasselbeck threw five touchdown passes -- four in a first half in which Eli Manning had three interceptions. New York trailed 42-3 before rallying in the fourth quarter to a 42-30 loss Sunday.

"I don't know what it is. But it's not flat," Giants coach Tom Coughlin said after his team followed a 17-point fourth-quarter deficit at Philadelphia last week with a 35-0 flop in the first half against the soaring Seahawks.

"A team that does nothing but preach and talk about turnovers, we turn it over like nothing matters, nothing counts," Coughlin said. "It cost us the game."

It all left New York's Jeremy Shockey irate -- at his coach.

"We got outplayed, and outcoached. Write that down," the volatile tight end said after he was told of Coughlin's frustrated outburst.

Shockey had four catches for 58, inconsequential yards.

When asked what he meant by "outcoached" Shockey said, "You saw the game."

The Seahawks (3-0) won their 12th consecutive regular-season home game and finally felt good about their previously sputtering offense, thanks to Deion Branch's debut.

The former Patriot and Super Bowl MVP caught two passes for 23 yards and ran a reverse 8 yards. He was part of the Seahawks' new, four-wide receiver scheme, an offensive makeover during the game's relatively few important parts.

"There was no way for them to prepare for that ... we were running routes we'd never shown," Hasselbeck said.

Whatever, Coughlin huffed.

"Our pass coverage was practically nonexistent ... Turn the ball over like that and not be able to stop them, not to get anything done until the second half," he said. "Makes no sense to me."

Made history, though.

New York (1-2) wanted to take Seattle's roaring, allegedly enhanced crowd out of the game early. The Giants did that by free-falling into the deepest first-half hole in their 82-year history.

"We just handed it to them," Coughlin said.

Manning was 2-of-7 for minus-1 yards and the two interceptions in a nightmare first quarter, when Seattle led 21-0. He was 20-for-26 for 238 yards after that.

"Yeah, it was hard to believe," Manning said of the start.

Nate Burleson's first TD catch as a Seahawk helped Seattle build a big lead.

Hasselbeck's scoring throws to Jackson, Nate Burleson, Bobby Engram and even third-string tight end Will Heller -- plus Shaun Alexander's 2-yard score -- put the Giants behind 35-0 for the first time since Sept. 4, 1995, when they lost by that score to Dallas en route to a 5-11 season.

"You don't expect to be in that situation," Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren said.

The rout was so quick, so decisive, it rendered the incessant roaring of a Qwest Field-record crowd of 68,161 moot -- but not mute. The fans were mostly mocking the stunned visitors by the end of the third quarter, after the Seahawks completed a 17-play drive that ended with Darrell Jackson's second touchdown catch for a 42-3 lead.

Manning's initial mistake was not seeing Ken Hamlin lurking behind Plaxico Burress on New York's third play, after the Giants' Corey Webster had outfought Jackson for an interception to begin the game. Hamlin jumped in front of Burress, intercepted Manning's pass and returned it 37 yards to the New York 15.

Two plays later, Alexander scored on a 2-yard run. Alexander played only three quarters and gained 47 yards on 20 carries -- his third consecutive sub-100 yard day.

Rookie Darryl Tapp sacked Manning for an 11-yard loss to end the Giants' second drive. Burleson then made a twisting catch of a 12-yard throw for a 14-0 lead.

Manning's next error was a looping toss intended for Amani Toomer, who was briefly open on a corner route. Hamlin, roving in the middle of the field, raced under the pass and returned his second interception of the period 26 yards to the New York 27.

That became a 21-0 lead four plays later, when Hasselbeck found Jackson for an easy, 4-yard touchdown pass.

Just after Manning finally had positive passing yardage, early in the second quarter, Burress allowed a throw to clang off his hands and into the arms of Michael Boulware for another interception. The Seahawks converted that into a score when Heller ran past flat-footed R.W. McQuarters to become all alone for a 10-yard touchdown reception. That made it 28-0.

Jay Feely's 46-yard field goal to end the half kept the Giants from a halftime shutout.

Manning threw scoring passes of 13 yards to Toomer and 25 yards to Tim Carter in the fourth quarter to make it 42-17. McQuarters then returned an interception 27 yards for another touchdown with 9:30 left.

New York's final score came on a 9-yard scoring pass to David Tyree with 2:42 remaining.

"Right now," linebacker Antonio Pierce said entering New York's bye week, "we're a horrible team."

Notes: Alexander's touchdown gave him 102 for his career, most in Seattle history. Alexander has 91 career touchdowns rushing, tied for eighth in NFL history with Franco Harris and Jerome Bettis. ... Giants LB Carlos Emmons left with a pectoral strain and didn't return
 
He could be ripping coordinators and other assistants too. I think when you've been dominated in three straight games, the coaching blame doesn't only fall on the head coach.

 
He could be ripping coordinators and other assistants too. I think when you've been dominated in three straight games, the coaching blame doesn't only fall on the head coach.
yeah but notice that the article mentions that he said that "after he was told about Coughlin's outburst' by the reporter.
 
The Guy is a idiot..... He benches his best receiver after he won the game for him last week and after hesbeen the most consistent offensive player they have had.... Coughlin is a idiot... Benching Plax is nonsense.. Plax actually took it like a man and stayed quietly on the sidelines...

 
The Guy is a idiot..... He benches his best receiver after he won the game for him last week and after hesbeen the most consistent offensive player they have had.... Coughlin is a idiot... Benching Plax is nonsense.. Plax actually took it like a man and stayed quietly on the sidelines...
Plax was an absolute nightmare today. Irregardless of how he "took it" on the sideline, the guy was garbage today.
 
The Guy is a idiot..... He benches his best receiver after he won the game for him last week and after hesbeen the most consistent offensive player they have had.... Coughlin is a idiot... Benching Plax is nonsense.. Plax actually took it like a man and stayed quietly on the sidelines...
Plax was an absolute nightmare today. Irregardless of how he "took it" on the sideline, the guy was garbage today.
he had a fumble and a drop that caused a int.. Eli looked far worse in the beginning why didn't he get benched...
 
The Guy is a idiot..... He benches his best receiver after he won the game for him last week and after hesbeen the most consistent offensive player they have had.... Coughlin is a idiot... Benching Plax is nonsense.. Plax actually took it like a man and stayed quietly on the sidelines...
Plax was an absolute nightmare today. Irregardless of how he "took it" on the sideline, the guy was garbage today.
he had a fumble and a drop that caused a int.. Eli looked far worse in the beginning why didn't he get benched...
wow - it's amazing you can't see the difference there. how'd the giants do after plax was out?
 
The Guy is a idiot..... He benches his best receiver after he won the game for him last week and after hesbeen the most consistent offensive player they have had.... Coughlin is a idiot... Benching Plax is nonsense.. Plax actually took it like a man and stayed quietly on the sidelines...
Plax was an absolute nightmare today. Irregardless of how he "took it" on the sideline, the guy was garbage today.
While I agree he was horrible today, irregaurdless is not a word.
 
The Guy is a idiot..... He benches his best receiver after he won the game for him last week and after hesbeen the most consistent offensive player they have had.... Coughlin is a idiot... Benching Plax is nonsense.. Plax actually took it like a man and stayed quietly on the sidelines...
Plax was an absolute nightmare today. Irregardless of how he "took it" on the sideline, the guy was garbage today.
While I agree he was horrible today, irregaurdless is not a word.
Neither is irregaurdless, for that matter.
 
The Guy is a idiot..... He benches his best receiver after he won the game for him last week and after hesbeen the most consistent offensive player they have had.... Coughlin is a idiot... Benching Plax is nonsense.. Plax actually took it like a man and stayed quietly on the sidelines...
Plax was an absolute nightmare today. Irregardless of how he "took it" on the sideline, the guy was garbage today.
While I agree he was horrible today, irregaurdless is not a word.
Uh, okay...what's your point?
 
The Guy is a idiot..... He benches his best receiver after he won the game for him last week and after hesbeen the most consistent offensive player they have had.... Coughlin is a idiot... Benching Plax is nonsense.. Plax actually took it like a man and stayed quietly on the sidelines...
Plax was an absolute nightmare today. Irregardless of how he "took it" on the sideline, the guy was garbage today.
While I agree he was horrible today, irregaurdless is not a word.
Irregardless of how you spell it?
 
Yeah, well, whatever language your speaking for once in his career I agree with Shockey... this has shades of Coughlin's last year in Jacksonville, only uglier because the players on the Giants are a lot more vocal. This team is going to quit on him (if they haven't already) at some point, and that point looks like it's coming soon.

(nothing's ever his fault) + (loves to make examples of players) = mutiny & firing on a losing team.

 
The Guy is a idiot..... He benches his best receiver after he won the game for him last week and after hesbeen the most consistent offensive player they have had.... Coughlin is a idiot... Benching Plax is nonsense.. Plax actually took it like a man and stayed quietly on the sidelines...
Plax was an absolute nightmare today. Irregardless of how he "took it" on the sideline, the guy was garbage today.
While I agree he was horrible today, irregaurdless is not a word.
Irregardless of how you spell it?
They did fine because The SeaHAwks were playing soft coverage and they stopped blitzing.... If Pax woudl of been there they would of made the same comeback.... Even after Carter and soem guys had dropped balls.... Plax is better than anythign they got let's get real here...
 
I posted this on another thread here:

Big news here is its Giants GM Accorsis last year.. and the two owners who approved TC died. So TC will have no ties what-so-ever to the new regimine coming in. I wouldn't be surprised to see Coughlin go. He has brought zero dicipline to the Giants and that was supposed to be his #1 goal. Yes Giants have maturity problems but by far that links back to coaching too imo. Most coaches keep their players on a tight leash knowing that many are young millionaires with little self-dicipline.

I wanted Crennel back then and still wish they took him instead. TCs coaching sucks. From lack of getting them into a hurry-up until late, bad play calling, Poorly chosen time-outs ..so many problems.

Plax screwed up bad today.. but Eli has every game this year. Unless you watch the games and see most of Elis passes are above and behind his WRs you get fooled by his stats and sportscenter highlights. Mechanics for Eli is coaching also.

Expect a change in coaching in 2007 imo.

 
You certainly get the feeling that the team does not like Coughlin.
Coughlin's hard-assed approach to coaching and handling his players leaves him no room for error. He'd better be winning because if he's losing there's a roster full of players looking to stick it to him the way that they feel he sticks it to them the rest of the time.
 
Coughling was also quoted as saying this:

"We had what we thought was a good game plan together. And obviously we didn't execute."

Translation: We (the coaches) had a good game plan, but they (the players) messed it up.

I cannot stand Shockey, but Coughlin cast the first stone in this war of words.

 
Shockey's the last guy who should be speaking up. He's a hot head whose lapses and antics repeatedly detract from the team's efforts IMHO. He's definitely talented, but I'm not always sure that that matters. He's a lot like Winslow in that regard, although Winslow's notorious mouth doesn't seem to affect his game play as much as Shockey's hot temper.

 
Shockey's the last guy who should be speaking up. He's a hot head whose lapses and antics repeatedly detract from the team's efforts IMHO. He's definitely talented, but I'm not always sure that that matters. He's a lot like Winslow in that regard, although Winslow's notorious mouth doesn't seem to affect his game play as much as Shockey's hot temper.
Also though, the team is really fired up when Shockey gets going. Works both ways
 
ELI!!!!!!!Yes, those were some solid garbage time points. :thumbup:
Eli almost killed me today. Tomorrow night might turn it around though.And the Giants are in for a long season and a tough schedule...
 
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Shockey might be a ########, but he's not wrong about this. Coughlin looks like the stupidest head coach in the league right now.

 
Coughling was also quoted as saying this:"We had what we thought was a good game plan together. And obviously we didn't execute."Translation: We (the coaches) had a good game plan, but they (the players) messed it up. I cannot stand Shockey, but Coughlin cast the first stone in this war of words.
No, he didn't. Its the coach's job to critique his players, not the other way around.
 
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Heard it best on Mike and Mike this morning. Shockey is a great guy to have on your team when things are going well, but the last person you want in fox hole with you when things get a little bumpy.

 
ELI!!!!!!!Yes, those were some solid garbage time points. :thumbup:
:goodposting: I loved Aikman.
They need to play no huddle more often, Eli's has proven two weeks in a row he can handle it and take advantage of defenses
Earth to Aikman. Most QB's can look like stars when Defense's play stupid :censored: Prevent Defense. Seahawks played most of the 3rd quarter and the 4th in Prevent, they sat Alexander and were acting like the game was in hand.This week Seahawks woke up in time to hold on, where as the Eagles last week didn't wake up in time.
 
Shockey's the last guy who should be speaking up. He's a hot head whose lapses and antics repeatedly detract from the team's efforts IMHO. He's definitely talented, but I'm not always sure that that matters. He's a lot like Winslow in that regard, although Winslow's notorious mouth doesn't seem to affect his game play as much as Shockey's hot temper.
I'll never forget the play last year where Shockey turned to complain to the ref about pass interference while a Redskin LB intercepted the pass right next to Shockey's knee. He had no idea an INT had happened next to him until the LB was way downfield on the return.
 
Shockey= major loud mouth #####. Maybe he should concentrate on staying healthy for longer than 10 minutes before he rips anyone else.

 
After seeing his comments on sportscenter, Shockey just seemed frustrated, which is understandable given they were down by like 40 at one point. He was clearly wrong by going public, but at least the guy cares about winning. Honestly, everyone on that team should be as upset as Shockey was. They just shouldn't share that with the press.

 
I hate how the media twists these quotes. Did anyone notice what Shockey actually said...

"We got outplayed, and outcoached. Write that down"

It's not like he was singling out the coaching. He was ripping everyone on that team, and rightfully so. The was it is being reported you'd think he said, "Tom Coughlin is the worst coach ever."

 
After seeing his comments on sportscenter, Shockey just seemed frustrated, which is understandable given they were down by like 40 at one point. He was clearly wrong by going public, but at least the guy cares about winning. Honestly, everyone on that team should be as upset as Shockey was. They just shouldn't share that with the press.
For once in my life I actually agreed with something Joe Buck said :shock: :o
Everyone spoke about how Eli "grew up" last week. I think there are other players on this team that need to grow up more than Eli"
:eek: :thumbup:
 
After seeing his comments on sportscenter, Shockey just seemed frustrated, which is understandable given they were down by like 40 at one point. He was clearly wrong by going public, but at least the guy cares about winning. Honestly, everyone on that team should be as upset as Shockey was. They just shouldn't share that with the press.
For once in my life I actually agreed with something Joe Buck said :shock: :o
Everyone spoke about how Eli "grew up" last week. I think there are other players on this team that need to grow up more than Eli"
:eek: :thumbup:
What, do you prefer Joe Thiesmann's insight or something? Joe Buck is one of the best there is.
 
I hate Shockey, but he's right. The Giants are one Westbrook fumble away from being 0-3 this year.
The fact that they came out of their schedule with even 1 win is impressive in my opinion:Indy, Philly & Seattle (in Seattle) is pretty much a recipe for 3 losses to anyone this year. The Giants are one of the better teams in the league and were just embarassed this week.
 
Coughlin is to blame, Shockey is to blame, Manning is to blame... they are ALL to blame. No one on that team should be point fingers at anyone else but themselves.

One thing I will give Shockey though, is that in watching that game, they weren't even using him hardly at all. You have one of the top TEs in the game, and you barely even throw it to him. HELLLLLLOOOO!

 

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