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Even if this was motivated by religious beliefs, there are thousands of Americans that are Islamic who have served and continue to serve honorably in the United States Armed Services. This is important to remember.
I'm one of your fans here. But on this subject, I'm starting to think you've lost it. No one in this thread but you is speculating this was motivated by religious beliefs, and yet you're now posting the counterpoint to your own speculation?
for some reason, I read Tim's posts imagining the voice of Clark Griswold.. strange
Oh, now you've done it. I won't be able to read another tim post without doing this now.
 
If there was more than one shooter then it was obviously planned and if it was planned I think the odds of this being religious or terrorist based goes up. I'm hoping the reports are mistaken and it was just one guy going nuts.
He was a mental Health doctor. Chance of this being terrorism related is closer to zero than it is close to 50/50.
 
Even if this was motivated by religious beliefs, there are thousands of Americans that are Islamic who have served and continue to serve honorably in the United States Armed Services. This is important to remember.
I'm one of your fans here. But on this subject, I'm starting to think you've lost it. No one in this thread but you is speculating this was motivated by religious beliefs, and yet you're now posting the counterpoint to your own speculation?
It's not contradictory. I think religious beliefs may be involved (though I hope not).I also don't think it says anything about the honor of Muslim Americans. That's all.
 
If there was more than one shooter then it was obviously planned and if it was planned I think the odds of this being religious or terrorist based goes up. I'm hoping the reports are mistaken and it was just one guy going nuts.
He was a mental Health doctor. Chance of this being terrorism related is closer to zero than it is close to 50/50.
So less than 25%?
If he's a mental health doctor, the chances of his being nuts are closer to 100% than it is to 50/50.
 
If there was more than one shooter then it was obviously planned and if it was planned I think the odds of this being religious or terrorist based goes up. I'm hoping the reports are mistaken and it was just one guy going nuts.
He was a mental Health doctor. Chance of this being terrorism related is closer to zero than it is close to 50/50.
So less than 25%?
If he's a mental health doctor, the chances of his being nuts are closer to 100% than it is to 50/50.
Especially if he's dealing with hundreds of folks returning from deployments. I've always thought that is among the toughest jobs in the world.
 
DD any news from your friends on the two in custody?
No that is a law enforcement matter, and it wouldn't be releasable even if they did. My Sgt Major friend (my first supervisor in military CCS) is going to the gate now to talk with media. He'll be on soon. He's got a deep voice and a short temper, I hope they show this live.
 
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DD any news from your friends on the two in custody?
No that is a law enforcement matter, and it wouldn't be releasable even if they did. My Sgt Major friend (my first supervisor in military CCS) is going to the gate now to talk with media. He'll be on soon. He's got a deep voice and a short temper, I hope they show this live.
CNN is showing some old fat bald guy wearing suspenders on a cell phone.
 
Colonel Terry Lee speaking about the Major on Fox news. I guess he knew the shooter/major.

 
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Doctor Detroit said:
DD any news from your friends on the two in custody?
No that is a law enforcement matter, and it wouldn't be releasable even if they did. My Sgt Major friend (my first supervisor in military CCS) is going to the gate now to talk with media. He'll be on soon. He's got a deep voice and a short temper, I hope they show this live.
CNN is showing some old fat bald guy wearing suspenders on a cell phone.
He's bald but he's not old or fat. :unsure: Name is Jamie Posten
No, the guy they are showing is a civilian, he is doing nothing, just waiting for the briefing. I’m watching the streaming video on cnn.com. Update: He is off his cell phone
 
A lot of things don't add up very well here. The guy was transferred from Walter Reed to Fort Hood, apparently for poor performance, in July, yet he wa promoted to major in May?? And he attended the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md... I know a gal who went to Med School there... extremely tough to get into that program. He musta had something going for him at one time.

 
A lot of things don't add up very well here. The guy was transferred from Walter Reed to Fort Hood, apparently for poor performance, in July, yet he wa promoted to major in May?? And he attended the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md... I know a gal who went to Med School there... extremely tough to get into that program. He musta had something going for him at one time.
This could mean anything though, no?
 
A lot of things don't add up very well here. The guy was transferred from Walter Reed to Fort Hood, apparently for poor performance, in July, yet he wa promoted to major in May?? And he attended the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md... I know a gal who went to Med School there... extremely tough to get into that program. He musta had something going for him at one time.
This could mean anything though, no?
Well, if his performance was chronically poor, would he have been promoted two months earlier? Or perhaps he peed on the wrong rug or something after his promotion?
 
A lot of things don't add up very well here. The guy was transferred from Walter Reed to Fort Hood, apparently for poor performance, in July, yet he wa promoted to major in May?? And he attended the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md... I know a gal who went to Med School there... extremely tough to get into that program. He musta had something going for him at one time.
This could mean anything though, no?
Well, if his performance was chronically poor, would he have been promoted two months earlier? Or perhaps he peed on the wrong rug or something after his promotion?
I guess I'm just thinking that being transferred for poor performance could mean that he had one run-in with a superior officer and that 'poor performance' was just a convenient label. Or it could mean exactly what it implies. Where did you get this info? I'm not watching TV so I'm curious if there is something I could read about it.
 
A lot of things don't add up very well here. The guy was transferred from Walter Reed to Fort Hood, apparently for poor performance, in July, yet he wa promoted to major in May?? And he attended the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md... I know a gal who went to Med School there... extremely tough to get into that program. He musta had something going for him at one time.
This could mean anything though, no?
Well, if his performance was chronically poor, would he have been promoted two months earlier? Or perhaps he peed on the wrong rug or something after his promotion?
Worked for Chase, right?
 
A lot of things don't add up very well here. The guy was transferred from Walter Reed to Fort Hood, apparently for poor performance, in July, yet he wa promoted to major in May?? And he attended the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md... I know a gal who went to Med School there... extremely tough to get into that program. He musta had something going for him at one time.
This could mean anything though, no?
Well, if his performance was chronically poor, would he have been promoted two months earlier? Or perhaps he peed on the wrong rug or something after his promotion?
I guess I'm just thinking that being transferred for poor performance could mean that he had one run-in with a superior officer and that 'poor performance' was just a convenient label. Or it could mean exactly what it implies. Where did you get this info? I'm not watching TV so I'm curious if there is something I could read about it.
I found the info on MSNBC. :lmao:
 
Certainly discussion boards are for folks to communicate back and forth but good god some of you guys need to chill out. Is it all schtick or grand standing, who knows I guess.

Horrible event but the law of large numbers comes in to play here...so many soldiers going off to fight a war that even the man in charge, our President had said he wanted to stop it and bring the troops home, yet we are still deploying more men and women to go fight over there...why?

Is anything this person did today justified in any way? On the surface all will say know but I invite everyone to not jump to their usual conclusions until we learn more about what happened. That will be difficult as all the news stations have agendas and will spin this however they see fit, gonna be hard to get the real story for quite some time.

Feel terrible for the families of not just the people killed but the 31 others that are injured, more people could die from that group, the families will suffer for this and have to pick up the pieces, very tragic.

 
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What can be done for these soldiers and their families? Would giving to the Red Cross accomplish anything?
Yes. Red Cross makes all the notifications and provides a ton of assistance in times of tradgedy. The people who really help are here. If you want to donate money to help soldiers and their families, donate to them.
Bumping this again. Dr. Detroit was kind enough to post this earlier. It's the Army Emergency Relief. I've already made a donation. Please help if you can. You can write that it's for the Fort Hood tragedy.
 
Explain to me how you can say this:

good god some of you guys need to chill out. Is it all schtick or grand standing, who knows I guess.
and then in the EXACT same post you say this:
Is anything this person did today justified in any way?
Good question. I simply am trying to focus the discussion on perhaps the why rather than just the end result or rushing to judge based on a possible last name. It's always the same old tired out Left/Right argument. Fennis, I know you don't think you are going to get the real story from any of the major media outlets, right?I find the idea that this SOB was possibly a psychiatrist in the Army and was about to be deployed to the ME, presumably to go and help soldiers who are suffering over there. This guy suddenly decides to grab handguns and start shooting the base up. I'm much more interested in what this guy was thinking than I am how many people killed because after 2 or 3 the number is simply hard for any human to comprehend. We saw 180 killed in Baghdad last week...I didn't see anyone get up in a fuss in here, maybe I missed the thread but no one really posts about the car bombs in the ME anymore...heck we can barely get a discussion when 12 soldiers die in a day or week over in Afghanistan.
 
Certainly discussion boards are for folks to communicate back and forth but good god some of you guys need to chill out. Is it all schtick or grand standing, who knows I guess. Horrible event but the law of large numbers comes in to play here...so many soldiers going off to fight a war that even the man in charge, our President had said he wanted to stop it and bring the troops home, yet we are still deploying more men and women to go fight over there...why?Is anything this person did today justified in any way? On the surface all will say know but I invite everyone to not jump to their usual conclusions until we learn more about what happened. That will be difficult as all the news stations have agendas and will spin this however they see fit, gonna be hard to get the real story for quite some time. Feel terrible for the families of not just the people killed but the 31 others that are injured, more people could die from that group, the families will suffer for this and have to pick up the pieces, very tragic.
Clean up on aisle 4
 
Is anything this person did today justified in any way? On the surface all will say know but I invite everyone to not jump to their usual conclusions until we learn more about what happened.
Seriously???? You think there is ANYTHING that would justify shooting over 40 people killing at least 11? Seriously? Seriously?
 
Brutis said:
What was the shooters name?
:hifive:
Why the celebration? I thought you previously said you were in the military at some point.
Celebrating the death of 13 U.S. soldiers is what kind of guy Brutis is.
I took it to mean he also wanted to know the name of the shooter. I know he has a bad (somewhat well earned) rep, but I don't think he's celebrating.
They both knew the name of the shooter.
 
Certainly discussion boards are for folks to communicate back and forth but good god some of you guys need to chill out. Is it all schtick or grand standing, who knows I guess. Horrible event but the law of large numbers comes in to play here...so many soldiers going off to fight a war that even the man in charge, our President had said he wanted to stop it and bring the troops home, yet we are still deploying more men and women to go fight over there...why?Is anything this person did today justified in any way? On the surface all will say know but I invite everyone to not jump to their usual conclusions until we learn more about what happened. That will be difficult as all the news stations have agendas and will spin this however they see fit, gonna be hard to get the real story for quite some time. Feel terrible for the families of not just the people killed but the 31 others that are injured, more people could die from that group, the families will suffer for this and have to pick up the pieces, very tragic.
Clean up on aisle 4
Why in this thread?
 
Brutis said:
What was the shooters name?
:hifive:
Why the celebration? I thought you previously said you were in the military at some point.
Celebrating the death of 13 U.S. soldiers is what kind of guy Brutis is.
I took it to mean he also wanted to know the name of the shooter. I know he has a bad (somewhat well earned) rep, but I don't think he's celebrating.
You must be kidding. Read it again.
 

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