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Should Eagles Prioritize Barkley Getting the record? (1 Viewer)

Should Eagles Prioritize Barkley Getting the record?

  • Yes, he has earned the chance

    Votes: 15 23.8%
  • No, Eagles should prioritize health ahead of playoffs

    Votes: 48 76.2%

  • Total voters
    63

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Final week - Barkely needs 101 yards to set the single-season record.

What should the Eagles do?


Philadelphia Eagles coach Nick Sirianni hasn't decided whether he'll let Saquon Barkley attempt to break the NFL's single-season rushing record Sunday, but he says he'll talk to everyone in the organization, including owner Jeffrey Lurie, before making that call.

Barkley needs 101 yards to break Eric Dickerson's NFL record of 2,105 yards, set in 1984, but the Eagles (13-3) have clinched the NFC East division title and are locked into the NFC's No. 2 seed. That makes Sunday's game against the New York Giants a prime chance for Sirianni to rest his starters in anticipation of the Eagles' wild-card playoff game the following week.

"I'll talk to our staff, I'll talk to the players, I'll talk to [general manager] Howie [Roseman], I'll talk to Mr. Lurie. I'll talk to everybody to try and make sure I'm making the best decision for the football team," Sirianni said Tuesday during his weekly interview with 94WIP radio in Philadelphia.
 
Go make history and then go win a Super Bowl. These aren’t mutually exclusive and this isnt complicated, although we like to make it so.

It’s been an amazing season. The oline wants to go for it. Saquon wants to go for it. You know Stoutland wants to go for it and I think Nick probably wants to go for it. This is the type of thing that Nick believes galvanizes a team and he’s probably right.

Also, Saquon ramming 101 yards up the *** of the team that let him go is just too delicious.
 
My guess is the O-line wants to take a shot at it
Barkley won't say "I'll sit" and would welcome the chance
The front office knows it would add a level of excitement to an otherwise meh game and ensure none of the fannies in the seats stay home
My opinion: The starting offensive line starts the game,the starting receivers do not play,Barkley starts
And if he gets going early,he finishes with the record
If he struggles(unlikely) he comes out
 
I’d give him 15-25 carries. But necessarily the first half but I would plan to have him break the record before the end of the 3rd quarter.
 
My guess is the O-line wants to take a shot at it
Barkley won't say "I'll sit" and would welcome the chance
The front office knows it would add a level of excitement to an otherwise meh game and ensure none of the fannies in the seats stay home
My opinion: The starting offensive line starts the game,the starting receivers do not play,Barkley starts
And if he gets going early,he finishes with the record
If he struggles(unlikely) he comes out
Considering its a home game, I think you are correct in that they go out with the intent to get the record. I would argue keeping AJ, Smitty and the other starting WRs out there to keep the defense honest would be smart.
 
If Saquon and o line guys want it then sure. If not then rest up. Should be able to get the record by the end of the first half easily.
 
I understand the idea of rest but they will be preparing all week for the game either way. It's not the same as a real bye.

Let them go for it. Sit anyone that has even a slight injury. Once he gets it, pull him out.
 
Since it's the crappy Giants and he'd definitely break it (against his former team) if he played... I'd leave it up to Saquon and ESPECIALLY the O-line. If those guys feel like they need a week off to heal / rest up then let them have it. Otherwise, I'd have them suit up and go through a week of prep as if they were starting. Of course, letting the backups know they're going to be playing alot. I give them a few series to get a little work in (a la preseason games) and see if Saquon can make some progress on the record. If it's not happening, pull the starters. If they don't get there (or real close) by halftime, pull the starters. If someone doesn't feel 100%, pull the starters. Poor field conditions, pull the starters. Etc...
 
Nope. The NFL puts no real emphasis on player health, so it falls upon the teams and players to protect themselves when the rare opportunity arises. The smart thing is to rest him and prepare for a playoff run.

Beyond that, the record doesn't mean much in the early years of a 17 game era, which is soon to be an 18 game era. Numerous players would've broken Dickerson's mark already if given an extra game.
 
Nope. The NFL puts no real emphasis on player health, so it falls upon the teams and players to protect themselves when the rare opportunity arises. The smart thing is to rest him and prepare for a playoff run.

Beyond that, the record doesn't mean much in the early years of a 17 game era, which is soon to be an 18 game era. Numerous players would've broken Dickerson's mark already if given an extra game.
Sigh

Dickerson had 379 carries.
Saquon currently has 345.

If he breaks it, it doesn't matter how many games. He did it in less carries.
 
I honestly can’t decide. He’s probably my favorite player, and I’d love to see it, but I don’t know. I lean towards sitting
 
Nope. The NFL puts no real emphasis on player health, so it falls upon the teams and players to protect themselves when the rare opportunity arises. The smart thing is to rest him and prepare for a playoff run.

Beyond that, the record doesn't mean much in the early years of a 17 game era, which is soon to be an 18 game era. Numerous players would've broken Dickerson's mark already if given an extra game.
Sigh

Dickerson had 379 carries.
Saquon currently has 345.

If he breaks it, it doesn't matter how many games. He did it in less carries.
Barkley is 14th in rushing yards per game. I'd argue Dickerson's record is pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Its OJ's record as far as I'm concerned. Dickerson isn't even top-3.

Even if you use the amount of carries it took argument, Barkley is behind AT LEAST OJ, Peterson, and Barry.

If YPC factors in heavily than 1963 Jim Brown is still the man to beat, with 291-1863-12 (6.4 YPC) in 14 games.
 
Final week - Barkely needs 101 yards to set the single-season record.

What should the Eagles do?


Philadelphia Eagles coach Nick Sirianni hasn't decided whether he'll let Saquon Barkley attempt to break the NFL's single-season rushing record Sunday, but he says he'll talk to everyone in the organization, including owner Jeffrey Lurie, before making that call.

Barkley needs 101 yards to break Eric Dickerson's NFL record of 2,105 yards, set in 1984, but the Eagles (13-3) have clinched the NFC East division title and are locked into the NFC's No. 2 seed. That makes Sunday's game against the New York Giants a prime chance for Sirianni to rest his starters in anticipation of the Eagles' wild-card playoff game the following week.

"I'll talk to our staff, I'll talk to the players, I'll talk to [general manager] Howie [Roseman], I'll talk to Mr. Lurie. I'll talk to everybody to try and make sure I'm making the best decision for the football team," Sirianni said Tuesday during his weekly interview with 94WIP radio in Philadelphia.

Good topic as that's an excellent question.
 
34-7, 4th quarter. Philly gives it to Saquon 5 straight times, last carry gets him over 2000. TO Philly, Gainwell in the game. I think Philly had already decided to rest him this week and ran him a bit extra against Dallas to get 2000.
 
Same answer as playing starters late in a blowout- hard no. One of the easiest decisions in the game.
 
Nope. The NFL puts no real emphasis on player health, so it falls upon the teams and players to protect themselves when the rare opportunity arises. The smart thing is to rest him and prepare for a playoff run.

Beyond that, the record doesn't mean much in the early years of a 17 game era, which is soon to be an 18 game era. Numerous players would've broken Dickerson's mark already if given an extra game.
Sigh

Dickerson had 379 carries.
Saquon currently has 345.

If he breaks it, it doesn't matter how many games. He did it in less carries.
Barkley is 14th in rushing yards per game. I'd argue Dickerson's record is pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Its OJ's record as far as I'm concerned. Dickerson isn't even top-3.

Even if you use the amount of carries it took argument, Barkley is behind AT LEAST OJ, Peterson, and Barry.

If YPC factors in heavily than 1963 Jim Brown is still the man to beat, with 291-1863-12 (6.4 YPC) in 14 games.
That's my point. People trying to disqualify him for number of games open it up to any number criteria to claim the greatest. It all comes back to yards at the end of the day. 20 years from now, people will only remember it was Saquon hat has the most if his record still stands.
 
Nope. The NFL puts no real emphasis on player health, so it falls upon the teams and players to protect themselves when the rare opportunity arises. The smart thing is to rest him and prepare for a playoff run.

Beyond that, the record doesn't mean much in the early years of a 17 game era, which is soon to be an 18 game era. Numerous players would've broken Dickerson's mark already if given an extra game.
Sigh

Dickerson had 379 carries.
Saquon currently has 345.

If he breaks it, it doesn't matter how many games. He did it in less carries.
Barkley is 14th in rushing yards per game. I'd argue Dickerson's record is pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Its OJ's record as far as I'm concerned. Dickerson isn't even top-3.

Even if you use the amount of carries it took argument, Barkley is behind AT LEAST OJ, Peterson, and Barry.

If YPC factors in heavily than 1963 Jim Brown is still the man to beat, with 291-1863-12 (6.4 YPC) in 14 games.
That's my point. People trying to disqualify him for number of games open it up to any number criteria to claim the greatest. It all comes back to yards at the end of the day. 20 years from now, people will only remember it was Saquon hat has the most if his record still stands.
OJ’s 2003 yards in 14 games was more impressive.
 
Nope. The NFL puts no real emphasis on player health, so it falls upon the teams and players to protect themselves when the rare opportunity arises. The smart thing is to rest him and prepare for a playoff run.

Beyond that, the record doesn't mean much in the early years of a 17 game era, which is soon to be an 18 game era. Numerous players would've broken Dickerson's mark already if given an extra game.
Sigh

Dickerson had 379 carries.
Saquon currently has 345.

If he breaks it, it doesn't matter how many games. He did it in less carries.
Barkley is 14th in rushing yards per game. I'd argue Dickerson's record is pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Its OJ's record as far as I'm concerned. Dickerson isn't even top-3.

Even if you use the amount of carries it took argument, Barkley is behind AT LEAST OJ, Peterson, and Barry.

If YPC factors in heavily than 1963 Jim Brown is still the man to beat, with 291-1863-12 (6.4 YPC) in 14 games.
That's my point. People trying to disqualify him for number of games open it up to any number criteria to claim the greatest. It all comes back to yards at the end of the day. 20 years from now, people will only remember it was Saquon hat has the most if his record still stands.
OJ’s 2003 yards in 14 games was more impressive.
Agreed. Also only 333 carries
 
I rest him. I don’t know if I could look him in the eye, but that’s what I’d do if I was acting dispassionately and in the best interests of the team.

Philly has a legit shot to make and win the Super Bowl. It’s their window. Maximize it.
 
Go make history and then go win a Super Bowl. These aren’t mutually exclusive and this isnt complicated, although we like to make it so.

It’s been an amazing season. The oline wants to go for it. Saquon wants to go for it. You know Stoutland wants to go for it and I think Nick probably wants to go for it. This is the type of thing that Nick believes galvanizes a team and he’s probably right.

Also, Saquon ramming 101 yards up the *** of the team that let him go is just too delicious.

This. Get the record, then win the Super Bowl. You can do both.
 
HOnestly I think it depends a little bit on Jalen Hurts. I don't like the idea of any key player going into a big game on more then one week off. If Jalen is healthy and ready to go, Jalen should start and play at least a few series....and if he's out there the other starters should be out there too. Prep like any other game, start everyone like any other game. If he's killing it and appears likely to get it by early 3rd quarter, go for it. If he isn't breaking a few decent runs early, then sit them all after a few series, including Barkley.
(I voted prioritize health...these options are NOT mutually exclusive)
 
I think too many people are forgetting this game means NOTHING to the Eagles, as far as the playoff seeding is concerned. This isn't like starting a game to keep a consecutive game streak alive. Sure, we can all joke about how easy it would be to get 101 yards vs the Giants, but he still has to do it. And if the team wants him to get the record, they certainly aren't going to bench all other starters. He needs an O-line and some other offensive players to be out there with him. Why risk your entire team for an individual record? Now, if playoff seeding were at stake, let him run wild. But this game should be treated like the first preseason game. And, as others have said, even if he can break Dickerson's record, his record will be broken when the league adds another game.
 
HOnestly I think it depends a little bit on Jalen Hurts. I don't like the idea of any key player going into a big game on more then one week off. If Jalen is healthy and ready to go, Jalen should start and play at least a few series....and if he's out there the other starters should be out there too. Prep like any other game, start everyone like any other game. If he's killing it and appears likely to get it by early 3rd quarter, go for it. If he isn't breaking a few decent runs early, then sit them all after a few series, including Barkley.
(I voted prioritize health...these options are NOT mutually exclusive)
This is pretty much exactly my take on it.

Conflicted. I want to see him get it: for Saquon, the Oline and Stout. I also would be super sad/angry/disappointed if he got hurt in a nothing game agains the NYG, when Philly had a legit shot at the title this year.

EDIT TO ADD: Oh, and for all those people saying- this record means nothing and it’ll be broken as soon as they add another game. Derrick Henry is having a monster year, in a monster career. He has 1700-something yards. Even with the “extra game” He ain’t sniffing Dickerson’s record. If D Henry in the Ravens Offense, having a good year isn’t in contention, why is everyone so surethe record falls again, as soon as an extra game is added?

Dickerson’s record has stood for 30 some years. It ain’t easy getting 2k
 
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I think it would be nice to see him get the record and I think he deserves it. I think he's a phenomenal player and he'd likely have better stats if he wasn't stuck in New York all these years but at least they made a pretty decent movie out of it. It seems like an unnecessary risk though so while it would be a nice feel good story I think the Eagles should rest their starters or treat it like a preseason game.
 
NFL Network reporting Barkley will sit this week
Never will have the same excitement as OJ Simpson breaking the 2,000 yard barrier in 14 games and 332 Carrie’s in 1973, for whoever breaks Dickerson’s record.
 
why is everyone so surethe record falls again, as soon as an extra game is added?
you just wait until they get rid of preseason altogether and rbs are running it for 2500 yards a year.

Only 24 times in NFL history has a RB rushed for more than 1800 yards. It's hard just to get to 1800.

To get in the 2000 yard club, only OJ, Barry Sanders and Saquon had less than 350 carries. In a 17 game season, right now only 3 RBs even have 300 carries. 2023, none. 2022, only 3. 2021, only 2. Even if the NFL went to 18 games, you're probably not going to see many RBs getting 350 carries. Teams just don't give one RB that many carries and when they do, it usually ends up wearing them down. But hypothetically, even if a RB does get 350 carries, that RB still needs to average around 5.5 yards per carry which isn't an easy feat either, only 4 RBs have averaged 5.5 ypc this year.
 
Confidently, Eric Dickerson doesn’t think Saquon Barkley will break his rushing record. This brings up the potential for endorsement money. If anyone watched the "30 for 30" documentary on the New York Sack Exchange, they’d recall how Mark Gastineau blamed Brett Favre for his lost endorsement opportunities. This happened after Favre took the controversial sack that allowed Michael Strahan to break the single-season sack record.

Considering the recent influx of Kelce commercials, one might wonder if Saquon Barkley would come off better in such advertisements. There’s also the thought of achieving immortality through records. With the NFL potentially adding more games, it's likely that records will continue to be broken. Eric Dickerson has held his record for over 40 years, which is impressive.

For the Eagles, the upcoming game might be inconsequential due to their current playoff standing. However, being on the team where Saquon breaks the single-season record would be priceless. Not to mention the ultimate goal: winning the Super Bowl. It's all about chasing achievements.
 
It's a shame they're not going for it. I think this is bad karma for the team. I get wanting to rest but I feel football is a gladiator sport and the risk of injury is every single time you step foot on the field. He'd be out there if the #1 seed was still on the line or if the division was still undecided which obviously opens him up for injury. So what's the difference?

Just feels like tempting the football gods to say "no thanks" to an all time record for a 1% better chance of staying healthy for a playoff game you have either way. Just my opinion.
 
It would be incredible to be in the stands when the crowd starts chanting "We want Barkley" or "Thank you Giants"!
 
I had CoPilot come up with a potential commercial by feeding it some ideas.

Opening Scene:
  • We see the Philadelphia Eagles' linemen, decked out in their gear, standing in formation.
  • The narrator starts with a serious tone: “In the world of football, battles are fought in the trenches.”
Cut to Action:
  • The camera zooms in on the linemen as they engage in a fierce blocking battle against defenders.
  • Close-up shots show their determination, strength, and skill as they create huge gaps in the defense.
Switch to Comedy:
  • Enter Saquon Barkley, with an air of nonchalance. He's leisurely walking behind the linemen, sipping a smoothie, and even checking his phone.
  • The linemen are shouting directions like: “To your left, Saquon!” and “Watch out for that patch of grass!”
Epic Moments:
  • Saquon casually strolls through the gaps, unbothered and untouched. Meanwhile, the linemen continue to fend off defenders with Herculean effort.
  • At one point, Saquon stops to tie his shoelace while the linemen continue to block ferociously.
Final Scene:
  • As Saquon saunters into the end zone, he throws a thumbs-up to the linemen.
  • The camera focuses on the linemen, exhausted but triumphant.
  • The narrator, in a humorous tone, concludes: “Because for Saquon, running is as easy as walking...when you've got the best linemen in the game.”
Closing Shot:
  • The screen fades to black with the tagline: “Philadelphia Eagles Linemen – Paving the Way, One Block at a Time.”
 
Nope. The NFL puts no real emphasis on player health, so it falls upon the teams and players to protect themselves when the rare opportunity arises. The smart thing is to rest him and prepare for a playoff run.

Beyond that, the record doesn't mean much in the early years of a 17 game era, which is soon to be an 18 game era. Numerous players would've broken Dickerson's mark already if given an extra game.
Sigh

Dickerson had 379 carries.
Saquon currently has 345.

If he breaks it, it doesn't matter how many games. He did it in less carries.
Barkley is 14th in rushing yards per game. I'd argue Dickerson's record is pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Its OJ's record as far as I'm concerned. Dickerson isn't even top-3.

Even if you use the amount of carries it took argument, Barkley is behind AT LEAST OJ, Peterson, and Barry.

If YPC factors in heavily than 1963 Jim Brown is still the man to beat, with 291-1863-12 (6.4 YPC) in 14 games.

This is where Im at.
 
Worst case scenario: Injury.

Second worse case scenario: You play Saquon all game, he takes a bunch of hits, and doesn't break the record.

It's the Giants. They suck. Their LB core is banged up. He probably gets it. But I have to imagine the Giants defense doesn't want to give it up. Especially if it's Saquon+a bunch of back ups. I can see the game being Saquon with a bunch of backups vs a stacked box all day long.

Tanner McKee is going to start at QB. It sounds like Brown and Smith will sit. Would the O-Line starters play? NYG will stack the box and try to force Philly to throw it. I think if you're resting everyone else, you rest Saquon.
 
Worst case scenario: Injury.

Second worse case scenario: You play Saquon all game, he takes a bunch of hits, and doesn't break the record.

It's the Giants. They suck. Their LB core is banged up. He probably gets it. But I have to imagine the Giants defense doesn't want to give it up. Especially if it's Saquon+a bunch of back ups. I can see the game being Saquon with a bunch of backups vs a stacked box all day long.

Tanner McKee is going to start at QB. It sounds like Brown and Smith will sit. Would the O-Line starters play? NYG will stack the box and try to force Philly to throw it. I think if you're resting everyone else, you rest Saquon.
Well yea. You don't play Saquon if you're resting everyone else. I'm saying they should have played everyone for at least a half.
 

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