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Should I talk a friend out of starting a dynasty league? (1 Viewer)

DJackson10

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So here's the gist. Buddy of mine wants to start a dynasty league with his co worker (Mostly co workers idea) would be most of the people in their league already plus me. I'm already hesitant as I'm on a friendly term with his co worker but that guys is a bit of an ####### (Still owes me money from the draft in Philly we went too and is known for taking advantage of people including my friend. He was thinking of a league buy in with $50 and $5 per trade and $1 per waiver after initial draft to start the year. Expenses would go towards 2nd and 1st place and trophy plus league owner get togethers (Most of the owners are in the area so public meets can happen) and trophy/belt. There will also be a PS not sure of roster sizes as this is in the infancy stages. after the 1st year they were thinking of implementing a salary cap of some kind 

I guess m question is for a league with so many moving parts per year and most people making moves it could cost someone upwards to 150 or more depending how aggressive of an owner they are. I think for the guys in the league some, I kind of know that could be a little too much. They already have one league that's $25 buy in 10 team league but that would turn into the dynasty league 12 teams. Does anyone have any recommendations  on how to start this league up, roster sizes, currency on transactions (Real money or is it better to do virtual currency each team only able to spend x amount?), When do you usually draft (Rookies, and first league start up), any other advice. 

My biggest concern here is I think both are in over their heads on this. I'm no expert but just from being on here and seeing some of the leagues and all I think I know a bit more then they do. Right now I'm looking for suggestions. I may or may not be apart of this league. I like the idea, cost not so much and the two guys attempting to run it I think it'd be better if we get people together vote on a cost and then vote on a commissioner. So any suggestions would be great
For background purposes this is what I posted in the looking for league threads and not sure if this thread is appropriate here (@Joe Bryant still learning rules on where to post stuff still as I come across different things). Either way after some feedback I decided not to join the league especially after talking to my buddy and his friend who were setting up a league committee and I was pretty insulted my friend was asking me for ideas only to find out I wouldn't even be part of the committee. I felt pretty disrespected and used in that matter as well as insulted that they were using me for ideas but wouldn't even allow me to be part of the group to make the blue print of the league to give to other owners to vote on it. I made suggestions like a taxi squad and taxi squad stealing and giving up the pick one round higher then when the player was drafted as comp or add the guy to your own roster to protect thing. Told them adding actual cash prices to roster moves discourages owners etc. I was not as concerned about the money being given back as they have been really good with that. I just think they are in over their heads. Said they've both been in practice dynasty leagues but I'm skeptical. Should I try to talk my buddy out of this league or maybe trying to step up as the bigger man and say hey this is the blueprint for the league you should use I'll gladly be in your league if you take these suggestions of mine and allow me be part of the team that overall discusses this? So far they were suppose to set something up to meet this weekend but my friend has heard nothing yet. 

 
Starting a league isn't a big deal. Especially for the buy-in amount you're talking, there's no reason to stress about "talking him out of it" or "being in over his head". If they screw it up, they'll start a better league with a better set of Bylaws next. That doesn't mean you have to be part of a league with rules you don't like or an uncertain future--that's a choice you have to make, along with any other owner joining. 

There's no "best format", although I think you are right about encouraging any new league not to "charge" for roster moves, especially trades. That's a truly horrible idea that favors those with a fuller wallet and discourages activity. You're even going to have rebuilds thinking "why should I add $5 to a pot I have no chance at winning this year just so I can make a speculative buy on this probable scrub for a future 3rd round pick?" It kills activity from all angles. If they want a bigger pot, have a bigger buy-in. 

I also disagree with the above suggestion to allow buying of blind bidding money or whatever with real cash once the original amount runs out--that does not promote parity in the least and is most definitely a pay-to-win advantage for those who don't care about the extra cash. That's not how any fantasy football league thrives, but especially not a dynasty league where the idea is to incentivize activity and allow different roster building strategies to play out. 

 
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He was thinking of a league buy in with $50 and $5 per trade and $1 per waiver after initial draft to start the year.
I can think of no legitimate reason for doing this.  Hell, in one of my dynasty leagues I wish there were far more waiver wire and trade activity.  Why add something that discourages this?

 
Starting a league isn't a big deal. Especially for the buy-in amount you're talking, there's no reason to stress about "talking him out of it" or "being in over his head". If they screw it up, they'll start a better league with a better set of Bylaws next. That doesn't mean you have to be part of a league with rules you don't like or an uncertain future--that's a choice you have to make, along with any other owner joining. 

There's no "best format", although I think you are right about encouraging any new league not to "charge" for roster moves, especially trades. That's a truly horrible idea that favors those with a fuller wallet and discourages activity. You're even going to have rebuilds thinking "why should I add $5 to a pot I have no chance at winning this year just so I can make a speculative buy on this probable scrub for a future 3rd round pick?" It kills activity from all angles. If they want a bigger pot, have a bigger buy-in. 

I also disagree with the above suggestion to allow buying of blind bidding money or whatever with real cash once the original amount runs out--that does not promote parity in the least and is most definitely a pay-to-win advantage for those who don't care about the extra cash. That's not how any fantasy football league thrives, but especially not a dynasty league where the idea is to incentivize activity and allow different roster building strategies to play out. 
I'm glad I'm not the only one He says it's for league get togethers. Ok whats the get together like once or twice a year? One for Rookie draft and then one for the championship? I told him numerous places have promotions and discounts for that sort of thing. Hell we got a Hooters 25 mins away from us that promotes discounts on Fantasy drafts and other bars and places that do that. Plus not everyone may make it so might as well let those who can make it just pay and go from there. I did stress when telling him I didn't want to be in the league that my money situation wouldn't be fair compared to others with the league move fees as I make a lot less then many in the league so I'm already at a disadvantage unless I go a full analytics moneyball type approach. Also not sure if I mentioned or not but I don't like the way either my friend or his buddy play. Both are predatory traders and take advantage of half the league who really aren't big football fans like say most of us here are. Just play the fantasy with the guy because they know him. Trust me with some of the trades I heard made in this league I'd be throwing a fit and possible rage quitting on them. The trades were so one sided plus the typical BS trade 3 guys for 2 trades 2 for 1 sucker trades etc. 

 
I can think of no legitimate reason for doing this.  Hell, in one of my dynasty leagues I wish there were far more waiver wire and trade activity.  Why add something that discourages this?
exactly why do this. I think he puts this in and people agree to it I see less trades happening and it won't generate the $$$$ he thinks it would 

 
I can think of no legitimate reason for doing this.  Hell, in one of my dynasty leagues I wish there were far more waiver wire and trade activity.  Why add something that discourages this?
Yeah this really discouraged me simple because I don't have the pockets everyone else does. These sound like rules top CEOs and presidents in a company play with because they can wipe their asses with that dough 

 

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