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Should McNabb have made the Pro Bowl? (1 Viewer)

Ghost Rider

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Okay, I know he wouldn't be able to play, but he has played more this year than Tony Romo has, and certainly has had a better season. So, why not award him with a Pro Bowl berth and then eventually replace him with the first alternate? Or is there a rule that says a player on IR cannot be selected to the Pro Bowl?

 
Okay, I know he wouldn't be able to play, but he has played more this year than Tony Romo has, and certainly has had a better season. So, why not award him with a Pro Bowl berth and then eventually replace him with the first alternate? Or is there a rule that says a player on IR cannot be selected to the Pro Bowl?
I like this idea... McNabb's season this year WAS good.
 
This should have been a no-brainer. I've never heard of anyone being barred from the team because of injury -- either people voted for him, or they didn't. This should be listed among the biggested snubs this year.

 
The Cowboys record improved under Romo while the Eagles record was worse under Mcnabb.
No doubt Romo has helped the Cowboys since taking over. But to say the Eagles suddenly started winning because Garcia is the QB is incorrect. Garcia has been great filling in for McNabb (the whole reason he was brought in was because he knew the offense) but the Eagles are winning because the defense has improved. Don't forget the Eagles started this season 4-1, with the one loss being a 4th quarter melt down by the defense. How soon people forget #5 was having an MVP season before going down.
 
The Eagles seemingly have played well the most this year when there were lower expectations. Few were expecting them to come out of the gate so strong, but they did, and were 4-1. Everyone was then talking about them being a top team, and all of a sudden, they started struggling, and before you know it, they were 5-5, and McNabb was lost for the season. With no expectations, and their season seemingly over, they have rattled off three wins in a row, to get to 8-6.

 
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He may not even be the best QB on his team.
:P :own3d:
That isn't fishing. I've always thought McNabb was horrible for a WCO. and they are 3-0 without him....And it's not the first time.
They are actually 3-1 with Garcia as the starter, and they lost the game McNabb was injured in with them trailing 7-3 in the 2nd quarter. So they are 3-2 since #5 went down.
So really Garcia is 3-1. Not bad for a backup taking over for a 5-5 superstar.
 
He may not even be the best QB on his team.
:shock: :cry:
That isn't fishing. I've always thought McNabb was horrible for a WCO. and they are 3-0 without him....And it's not the first time.
They are actually 3-1 with Garcia as the starter, and they lost the game McNabb was injured in with them trailing 7-3 in the 2nd quarter. So they are 3-2 since #5 went down.
So really Garcia is 3-1. Not bad for a backup taking over for a 5-5 superstar.
McNabb was 3-1 this season, during a 4 week span, on two separate occasions. ETA: Turn of WIP and get a clue hippie.
 
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He may not even be the best QB on his team.
:shock: :cry:
That isn't fishing. I've always thought McNabb was horrible for a WCO. and they are 3-0 without him....And it's not the first time.
They are actually 3-1 with Garcia as the starter, and they lost the game McNabb was injured in with them trailing 7-3 in the 2nd quarter. So they are 3-2 since #5 went down.
So really Garcia is 3-1. Not bad for a backup taking over for a 5-5 superstar.
McNabb was 3-1 this season, during a 4 week span, on two separate occasions. ETA: Turn of WIP and get a clue hippie.
I take it that you don't like The Dead
 
He may not even be the best QB on his team.
:shock: :cry:
That isn't fishing. I've always thought McNabb was horrible for a WCO. and they are 3-0 without him....And it's not the first time.
They are actually 3-1 with Garcia as the starter, and they lost the game McNabb was injured in with them trailing 7-3 in the 2nd quarter. So they are 3-2 since #5 went down.
So really Garcia is 3-1. Not bad for a backup taking over for a 5-5 superstar.
dude. there are 21 other starters on the team. w/l record is not the sole criteria by which to judge a QB.garcia's played very well, but he also hasn't been asked to do nearly as much as mcnabb is day in and day out. this is a stupid argument. try selling this crap in the FFA. it's garbage. NEXTeta: he should have definitely made the pro bowl with the sorry crew they put in there. he's still a top 10 QB and hasn't played in a month.
 
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Slider said:
suchislife said:
Slider said:
TheLastDispatch said:
Slider said:
He may not even be the best QB on his team.
:cry: :no:
That isn't fishing. I've always thought McNabb was horrible for a WCO. and they are 3-0 without him....And it's not the first time.
They are actually 3-1 with Garcia as the starter, and they lost the game McNabb was injured in with them trailing 7-3 in the 2nd quarter. So they are 3-2 since #5 went down.
So really Garcia is 3-1. Not bad for a backup taking over for a 5-5 superstar.
Like I stated above...how soon people forget the MVP-type season McNabb was having when he went down.
 
Slider said:
suchislife said:
Slider said:
TheLastDispatch said:
Slider said:
He may not even be the best QB on his team.
:cry: :no:
That isn't fishing. I've always thought McNabb was horrible for a WCO. and they are 3-0 without him....And it's not the first time.
They are actually 3-1 with Garcia as the starter, and they lost the game McNabb was injured in with them trailing 7-3 in the 2nd quarter. So they are 3-2 since #5 went down.
So really Garcia is 3-1. Not bad for a backup taking over for a 5-5 superstar.
Like I stated above...how soon people forget the MVP-type season McNabb was having when he went down.
Huh? He was going downhill faster than LT to the endzone. First 5 were incredible (the D usually takes a few weeks to catch up) then he was playing his 56% self. I got season tix and am a huge Eagles fan. Believe me, I would love to say he's all that. He's not. Great for your fantasy team? He is.
 
Slider said:
suchislife said:
Slider said:
TheLastDispatch said:
Slider said:
He may not even be the best QB on his team.
:cry: :no:
That isn't fishing. I've always thought McNabb was horrible for a WCO. and they are 3-0 without him....And it's not the first time.
They are actually 3-1 with Garcia as the starter, and they lost the game McNabb was injured in with them trailing 7-3 in the 2nd quarter. So they are 3-2 since #5 went down.
So really Garcia is 3-1. Not bad for a backup taking over for a 5-5 superstar.
Like I stated above...how soon people forget the MVP-type season McNabb was having when he went down.
Huh? He was going downhill faster than LT to the endzone. First 5 were incredible (the D usually takes a few weeks to catch up) then he was playing his 56% self. I got season tix and am a huge Eagles fan. Believe me, I would love to say he's all that. He's not. Great for your fantasy team? He is.
I like how you can see the future.What is Garcia going to do in his next 6 games?
 
Slider said:
suchislife said:
Slider said:
TheLastDispatch said:
Slider said:
He may not even be the best QB on his team.
:whistle: :hey:
That isn't fishing. I've always thought McNabb was horrible for a WCO. and they are 3-0 without him....And it's not the first time.
They are actually 3-1 with Garcia as the starter, and they lost the game McNabb was injured in with them trailing 7-3 in the 2nd quarter. So they are 3-2 since #5 went down.
So really Garcia is 3-1. Not bad for a backup taking over for a 5-5 superstar.
Like I stated above...how soon people forget the MVP-type season McNabb was having when he went down.
Huh? He was going downhill faster than LT to the endzone. First 5 were incredible (the D usually takes a few weeks to catch up) then he was playing his 56% self. I got season tix and am a huge Eagles fan. Believe me, I would love to say he's all that. He's not. Great for your fantasy team? He is.
I like how you can see the future.What is Garcia going to do in his next 6 games?
What are you talking about?
 
suchislife said:
They are actually 3-1 with Garcia as the starter, and they lost the game McNabb was injured in with them trailing 7-3 in the 2nd quarter. So they are 3-2 since #5 went down.
Bluestaples said:


McNabb was 3-1 this season, during a 4 week span, on two separate occasions.

ETA: Turn of WIP and get a clue hippie.
:whistle:
baronson said:
dude. there are 21 other starters on the team. w/l record is not the sole criteria by which to judge a QB.

garcia's played very well, but he also hasn't been asked to do nearly as much as mcnabb is day in and day out. this is a stupid argument. try selling this crap in the FFA. it's garbage. NEXT

eta: he should have definitely made the pro bowl with the sorry crew they put in there. he's still a top 10 QB and hasn't played in a month.
:hey:
Like I stated above...how soon people forget the MVP-type season McNabb was having when he went down.
:( :goodposting: :goodposting: I'm SO tired of Eagles fans who hate McNabb because he's not perfect. He could throw one bad ball a week and Philly fans would still complain. IMO, most of these people complain because in their minds starting QBs for all the other teams deliver each and every ball perfectly.

 
I'm SO tired of Eagles fans who hate McNabb because he's not perfect. He could throw one bad ball a week and Philly fans would still complain. IMO, most of these people complain because in their minds starting QBs for all the other teams deliver each and every ball perfectly.
I've watched every game of his career, and I can count on one hand how many times he has hit a receiver, in stride, on a slant pattern. Favre does it more than that in one quarter. It's the staple of the WCO, and he can't finish the play properly. I'm not saying he stinks, in fact he's a pretty good QB. But like a couple others have said, he never seemed to be a good fit for this style offense.
 
I'm SO tired of Eagles fans who hate McNabb because he's not perfect. He could throw one bad ball a week and Philly fans would still complain. IMO, most of these people complain because in their minds starting QBs for all the other teams deliver each and every ball perfectly.
I've watched every game of his career, and I can count on one hand how many times he has hit a receiver, in stride, on a slant pattern. Favre does it more than that in one quarter. It's the staple of the WCO, and he can't finish the play properly. I'm not saying he stinks, in fact he's a pretty good QB. But like a couple others have said, he never seemed to be a good fit for this style offense.
how many fingers are on that hand? :lmao: As an eagles fan i've watched him too, and I know he can get in a funk sometimes. I know he does have some bad balls. But he's good more often than he's bad IMO. i'll agree to disagree here.

 
He's 57% for his career and has never thrown for 4000. Many, many WCO QB's have done better.
IMO, that's not very great reasoning for him not making the probowl. And actually he's 58% for his career, not that it matters.4000 isn't a common landmark. You kinda made it sound like it is. Besides that, he's played most of his career without any real good WRs. The two years he had good WRs were 2004 and this year. In 2004 he became the first QB to ever throw for more than 30 TDs while throwing under 10 picks. Manning, Marino, Young, Montana, Elway, Unitas, none of them have ever done that. He did that while throwing for over 3800 yards. His QB average that year was 104.7, and his completion percentage was 64%, just .7 shy of Peyton Manning when he threw for 49 TDs. His rating in 2004 was about 12 points higher than Brady and his completion percentage was about 7% higher as well.

This past year he was on pace for over 4200 yards and about 29 TDs with just about 10 INTs. His QB rating this year was 95.5, just about 4 points less than Peyton Manning and about 10 points more than Tom Brady.

And that's not counting what he can do with his feet.

 
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He's 57% for his career and has never thrown for 4000. Many, many WCO QB's have done better.
IMO, that's not very great reasoning for him not making the probowl. And actually he's 58% for his career, not that it matters.4000 isn't a common landmark. You kinda made it sound like it is. Besides that, he's played most of his career without any real good WRs. The two years he had good WRs were 2004 and this year. In 2004 he became the first QB to ever throw for more than 30 TDs while throwing under 10 picks. Manning, Marino, Young, Montana, Elway, Unitas, none of them have ever done that. He did that while throwing for over 3800 yards. His QB average that year was 104.7, and his completion percentage was 64%, just .7 shy of Peyton Manning when he threw for 49 TDs. His rating in 2004 was about 12 points higher than Brady and his completion percentage was about 7% higher as well.

This past year he was on pace for over 4200 yards and about 29 TDs with just about 10 INTs. His QB rating this year was 95.5, just about 4 points less than Peyton Manning and about 10 points more than Tom Brady.

And that's not counting what he can do with his feet.
The low int's are directly related to the high sack numbers. I think when Grbac and Beuerlein are doing it a bona-fide superstar should at least once. Anyway, he's not all that and shouldn't be in the Probowl.
 
The Eagles have played better with Garcia than they were for McNabb. If nothing else this points out the fact that Philly needs the heir to #5 on the roster. McNabb is a big game choke artist with skills that only marginally fit the system he is in. He apparently lacks a bit in the leadership department as well, but hey he can do it all with a puke, a smile, and a nice interview so he is everybody's favorite.

 
The Eagles have played better with Garcia than they were for McNabb. If nothing else this points out the fact that Philly needs the heir to #5 on the roster. McNabb is a big game choke artist with skills that only marginally fit the system he is in. He apparently lacks a bit in the leadership department as well, but hey he can do it all with a puke, a smile, and a nice interview so he is everybody's favorite.
WRONG! Offensively the Eagles playcalling has gotten more conservative. Instead of relying on McNabb to do everything they are actually running the ball more and giving Westbrook/Buckhalter a larger role in the offense. By being more balanced on offense, it keeps the defense honest and puts your team in better positions on third down and keeps your defense off the field for larger portions of the game so that they aren't hanging on for dear life in the 4th quarter.Eagles run/pass ratio with McNabb was 60/40Eagles run/pass ratio with Garcia is 55/45
 
The Eagles have played better with Garcia than they were for McNabb. If nothing else this points out the fact that Philly needs the heir to #5 on the roster. McNabb is a big game choke artist with skills that only marginally fit the system he is in. He apparently lacks a bit in the leadership department as well, but hey he can do it all with a puke, a smile, and a nice interview so he is everybody's favorite.
WRONG! Offensively the Eagles playcalling has gotten more conservative. Instead of relying on McNabb to do everything they are actually running the ball more and giving Westbrook/Buckhalter a larger role in the offense. By being more balanced on offense, it keeps the defense honest and puts your team in better positions on third down and keeps your defense off the field for larger portions of the game so that they aren't hanging on for dear life in the 4th quarter.Eagles run/pass ratio with McNabb was 60/40Eagles run/pass ratio with Garcia is 55/45
Ahh, so to make a QB better you run more. I get it now. What's the 5% equal? 5 runs? :lmao: If the QB was sooooo good wouldn't passing 5% more be the right thing to do? I can see running more to help the backup QB. :unsure:
 
Ahh, so to make a QB better you run more. I get it now. What's the 5% equal? 5 runs? If the QB was sooooo good wouldn't passing 5% more be the right thing to do? I can see running more to help the backup QB.
No. The offense and defense would be better if the team ran the ball more. Eagles fans have been crying for this for a long time. Even Andy Reid in his weekly press conferences always says he needs to run the ball more. Running the ball keeps defenses honest, puts you in more makeable distances on 3rd down, eats up more clock shortening the games, and will keep your defense fresher.EDIT: Oh, and you better call Tony Dungy in Indy. To make Manning and the offense better they need to pass more (their pass/run ratio is 55/45).
 
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