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Should the Cowboys draft(trade up for) Jay Cutler? (1 Viewer)

Which QB should the Cowboys draft?

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  • Brodie Croyle

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  • Darrell Hackney

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  • Charlie Whitehurst

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  • Kellen Clemens

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  • D.J. Shockley

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  • Bruce Gradkowski

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  • Marcus Vick

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  • None - Henson is the future

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cstu

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Cutler is a big gunslinging QB in the Bledsoe mold with decent movement in the pocket. 2006 is probably the last year for Bledsoe (at least in Dallas) and the Cowboys will need a QB in 2007. With the Henson experiment appearing to be a failure, Cutler looks to be a guy who would benefit from learning from Bledsoe for a year. While it's unlikely that Cutler will last until the Cowboys #18 pick, there are plenty of options for the Cowboys to trade up to get him. I think Cutler could be worth this year's and next year's #1 if he is as good as he appears, but there are a few other QB's, including Omar Jacobs, who have potential and will be available later. Wondering what the rest of you think about Cutler or the other QB's in the draft if they are able to learn from the sidelines for a year.

 
I picked other. The offense is fine for now. Cowboys still need much improvement on defense. Still had a lot of trouble stopping the big plays this year. Need a big time safety or linebacker. Offensive line is still a big issue also. In today's NFL you can win with a not so great QB.

 
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Cutler is a big gunslinging QB in the Bledsoe mold with decent movement in the pocket. 2006 is probably the last year for Bledsoe (at least in Dallas) and the Cowboys will need a QB in 2007. With the Henson experiment appearing to be a failure, Cutler looks to be a guy who would benefit from learning from Bledsoe for a year. While it's unlikely that Cutler will last until the Cowboys #18 pick, there are plenty of options for the Cowboys to trade up to get him.

I think Cutler could be worth this year's and next year's #1 if he is as good as he appears, but there are a few other QB's, including Omar Jacobs, who have potential and will be available later. Wondering what the rest of you think about Cutler or the other QB's in the draft if they are able to learn from the sidelines for a year.
I'd love for my Lions to trade out of their pick if Mario Williams isn't available at #9 which he likely won't be. That's quite a ways to fall, but if we get a first next year and maybe a 5th rounder this year, it'd be worth it. I doubt it happens though...
 
Who's to say Cutler won't be there when the Cowboys pick? There's an excellent chance he will be.
It's possible, but it's more likely that he'll be gone. He may go in the top 10, shouldn't make it past the Dolphins.Jacobs would be a good pick in the 2nd if he falls that far.

 
The Cowboys have to many pressing needs such as FS, OT, and LB to even consider taking Cutler in the first round. Now free agency might significantly change their needs but i still dont believe that Dallas should draft a QB in the first round rather another young player for the defense.

 
Who's to say Cutler won't be there when the Cowboys pick? There's an excellent chance he will be.
there is a good chance but if the vikings trade pep then cutler would be a good choice for them with their own pick (17?) or Miami at 16 would likely snag him.
 
Who's to say Cutler won't be there when the Cowboys pick? There's an excellent chance he will be.
It's possible, but it's more likely that he'll be gone. He may go in the top 10, shouldn't make it past the Dolphins.Jacobs would be a good pick in the 2nd if he falls that far.
Look, I know Jerry Jones has a history of reaching on QBs, but Jacobs is projected as a 3rd rounder right now and Cutler, when push comes to shove, isn't going to have the grade of Young and Leinart and simply shouldn't be in play that early IMHO. Dallas will have a shot at their development QB without having to move up, that much I'm sure of.

 
parcells will be coaching most likely 1 more year, max 2. the next coach will be the one drafting a qb.

 
Who's to say Cutler won't be there when the Cowboys pick? There's an excellent chance he will be.
It's possible, but it's more likely that he'll be gone. He may go in the top 10, shouldn't make it past the Dolphins.Jacobs would be a good pick in the 2nd if he falls that far.
Look, I know Jerry Jones has a history of reaching on QBs, but Jacobs is projected as a 3rd rounder right now and Cutler, when push comes to shove, isn't going to have the grade of Young and Leinart and simply shouldn't be in play that early IMHO. Dallas will have a shot at their development QB without having to move up, that much I'm sure of.
I agree 100% with your last point, but disagree on Cutler - not ahead of Young/Leinart, but he'll be gone by #18. As for Jacobs, I guess it depends where you look, and the combines will change some of this anyway, but I've seen him as a 2nd or as high as mid-1st (which I disagree with, but hey, it is what it is) http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/index.cfm?page=2 - might be a terrible mock, I disagree with a lot here.

My personal rating puts him as the #4 or 5 QB, which can easily go in the 2nd.

 
I doubt Parcells will draft for the future. He wants to win now, and like was said earlier he only has a year, maybe two left in him. Not that it matters of course, the Skins are going to take the Cowpokes to the woodshed again next year......

 
Fill other needs and go get another Bledsoe whenever the original is done. There are always middling QB's in their early 30's readily available. You can't rebuild forever.

 
No way they take Cutler.The Cowboys have more pressing needs. Drafting the 3rd QB in the draft in the first round is not the way to go in my opinion.I fully expect the Cowboys to address the O-line and LB positions through the draft.I would love to get Marcus McNeil.One more thing.....if we were to give up picks for a QB, let's wait until next year. Brady Quinn.....I'm OK with this. Cutler......nah.

 
No way they take Cutler.

The Cowboys have more pressing needs. Drafting the 3rd QB in the draft in the first round is not the way to go in my opinion.

I fully expect the Cowboys to address the O-line and LB positions through the draft.

I would love to get Marcus McNeil.

One more thing.....if we were to give up picks for a QB, let's wait until next year. Brady Quinn.....I'm OK with this. Cutler......nah.
I'm with you on that one! My favorite QB.Yea, they go O-line. And I disagree with people who say Parcels is trying to win now and isn't building for the future. He has been building the future for 3 years now.

 
No way they take Cutler.

The Cowboys have more pressing needs. Drafting the 3rd QB in the draft in the first round is not the way to go in my opinion.

I fully expect the Cowboys to address the O-line and LB positions through the draft.

I would love to get Marcus McNeil.

One more thing.....if we were to give up picks for a QB, let's wait until next year. Brady Quinn.....I'm OK with this. Cutler......nah.
This makes a lot of sense, except that Quinn could easily be the #1 pick, top 5 at least - what would Dallas have to give to move up that far if they make the playoffs?
 
No way they take Cutler.

The Cowboys have more pressing needs. Drafting the 3rd QB in the draft in the first round is not the way to go in my opinion.

I fully expect the Cowboys to address the O-line and LB positions through the draft.

I would love to get Marcus McNeil.

One more thing.....if we were to give up picks for a QB, let's wait until next year. Brady Quinn.....I'm OK with this. Cutler......nah.
I'm with you on that one! My favorite QB.Yea, they go O-line. And I disagree with people who say Parcels is trying to win now and isn't building for the future. He has been building the future for 3 years now.
OL is a huge priority, especially if they want to be able to do well next year with Bledsoe. Cutler is likely going to go very high and I think Jacobs represents a bigger value in the 2nd round.
 
Cutler is a big gunslinging QB in the Bledsoe mold with decent movement in the pocket. 2006 is probably the last year for Bledsoe (at least in Dallas) and the Cowboys will need a QB in 2007. With the Henson experiment appearing to be a failure, Cutler looks to be a guy who would benefit from learning from Bledsoe for a year. While it's unlikely that Cutler will last until the Cowboys #18 pick, there are plenty of options for the Cowboys to trade up to get him.

I think Cutler could be worth this year's and next year's #1 if he is as good as he appears, but there are a few other QB's, including Omar Jacobs, who have potential and will be available later. Wondering what the rest of you think about Cutler or the other QB's in the draft if they are able to learn from the sidelines for a year.
CSTU, You might want to review some of Cutler's work. While the "term" gunslinger is accurate, he is nothing like Bledsoe.

A better description(physically and skill wise) would be David Carr. Culter doesnt have a gun for an arm, but hes a great scrambler, and can move around and out of the pocket fairly easily. His arm is fairly strong, but hes really more about accuracy. I wouldnt see him doing well in a downfield passing attack like Bledsoe is in in Dallas, or Oakland.

Either way, any team will be lucky to get Cutler, and I think after it is all said and done, we might have 3 QBs taken in a row at picks 2, 3 and 4 this year.

 
Good thread,

#1. Romo is going to get his chance first I gaurantee it! And he's going to get his chance next season. If you're in a Dynasty League pick him up just in case he is the real deal. He's received very high praise from Jerry Jones, Drew Bledsoe, and Sean Payton.

#2. For those that think Bill is going to draft defensive players high............won't happen. Look at the draft last year, it was mostly defensive players. 2006 he's going to do the opposite it will be offense first, he confirmed this last year.

 
Cutler is a big gunslinging QB in the Bledsoe mold with decent movement in the pocket. 2006 is probably the last year for Bledsoe (at least in Dallas) and the Cowboys will need a QB in 2007. With the Henson experiment appearing to be a failure, Cutler looks to be a guy who would benefit from learning from Bledsoe for a year. While it's unlikely that Cutler will last until the Cowboys #18 pick, there are plenty of options for the Cowboys to trade up to get him.

I think Cutler could be worth this year's and next year's #1 if he is as good as he appears, but there are a few other QB's, including Omar Jacobs, who have potential and will be available later. Wondering what the rest of you think about Cutler or the other QB's in the draft if they are able to learn from the sidelines for a year.
CSTU, You might want to review some of Cutler's work. While the "term" gunslinger is accurate, he is nothing like Bledsoe.

A better description(physically and skill wise) would be David Carr. Culter doesnt have a gun for an arm, but hes a great scrambler, and can move around and out of the pocket fairly easily. His arm is fairly strong, but hes really more about accuracy. I wouldnt see him doing well in a downfield passing attack like Bledsoe is in in Dallas, or Oakland.

Either way, any team will be lucky to get Cutler, and I think after it is all said and done, we might have 3 QBs taken in a row at picks 2, 3 and 4 this year.
Thanks, I think I missed where he's described as a gunslinger who really doesn't have the arm to be one (not that it's weak) and tries to force throws that he shouldn't. While his arm may not be as strong, he's seems to be a lot like Favre.
 
I somehow missed this thread earlier. A Parcells' draft is not a Jerry Jones draft. It might have been in Parcells' first year. But not now. A few thoughts about that implication:1) Parcells has never drafted an Olineman in the first round. Jumbo Elliot was an early second rounder. Now its been reported that they wanted Shawn Andrews a couple of years ago, but Philly jumped ahead of them and took him. Dallas then made the trade with Buffalo. So maybe they would consider an Olineman in the first. But until Parcells does it, I have to go with history and say its not very likely.2) Parcells really dislikes drafting WRs in the first. Yes, he did with Terry Glenn. But that pick was forced on him.In both cases for OT and WR, Parcells said in a press conference late in the year that those positions have very high bust rates as first rounders. Now guys like Pace, Ogden, and Walter Jones, he said that it was pretty clear that they would be really good. With QBs, I have a harder time reading Parcells. I have to say that with only a year or so left in his career, I doubt that he takes a guy to develop for his successor to reap the benefit. Maybe he is more magnanimous than I realize. But I don't really see it.I expect Dallas to sign a FA to play RT next year. Perhaps a Tom Ashworth. In the draft, I expect them to go defense in the first round. Probably an OLB to get a complement to Ware. Maybe if Huff falls, they take the playmaking safety. Maybe if the big NT falls, they get him. But grading out defensive guys is a lot lower risk in Parcells' view.In the second and third rounds, probably Oline and WR. Clearly areas of need and the cost of busts is a lot lower.Take Cutler? I just don't see it. I'd would not mind seeing it as a Cowboy fan. But with Parcells in control, I don't think its likely.

 
No way the Cowboys ever, ever, ever trade away two first round picks again. Wont happen. They learned their lesson with Galloway.The Cowboys aren't in a build for the future mode just yet. parcells needs to win now, no way he signs off on drafting a QB who wont see the field for two years. The Cowboys are going to take a Safety or an offensive lineman in the first round in my opinion. No way they take a QB. Hopefully Henson finds his talent in Europe, that would be my hope. He has been around for a while and he knows the system. I wouldn't be surprised to see Dallas get Maurice Carthon back to take over for Parcells when he retires and he was there with Henson.

 
Good thread,

#1. Romo is going to get his chance first I gaurantee it! And he's going to get his chance next season. If you're in a Dynasty League pick him up just in case he is the real deal. He's received very high praise from Jerry Jones, Drew Bledsoe, and Sean Payton.

#2. For those that think Bill is going to draft defensive players high............won't happen. Look at the draft last year, it was mostly defensive players. 2006 he's going to do the opposite it will be offense first, he confirmed this last year.
Have to argue with this. Wont happen. He will go defense again this year.
 
Who's to say Cutler won't be there when the Cowboys pick? There's an excellent chance he will be.
I thought it was a given that Cutler was top 10 material?? Some have him ranked top-5 (Mike Mayot [sp} from NFL Network).As for who I think the Cowboys get, Steve McNair! Bill can't wait for a young QB to develop. He probably won't finish out his new current contract, as history show he doesn't, therefore the future QB now is a veteran like McNair.

 
Who's to say Cutler won't be there when the Cowboys pick? There's an excellent chance he will be.
I thought it was a given that Cutler was top 10 material?? Some have him ranked top-5 (Mike Mayot [sp} from NFL Network).As for who I think the Cowboys get, Steve McNair! Bill can't wait for a young QB to develop. He probably won't finish out his new current contract, as history show he doesn't, therefore the future QB now is a veteran like McNair.
I don't see McNair as an improvement over Bledsoe. He's only a year younger and very injury-prone. Another veteran QB would be fine, but unless McNair wants to play cheap like Bledsoe then I'm against it.
 
Who's to say Cutler won't be there when the Cowboys pick? There's an excellent chance he will be.
I thought it was a given that Cutler was top 10 material?? Some have him ranked top-5 (Mike Mayot [sp} from NFL Network).As for who I think the Cowboys get, Steve McNair! Bill can't wait for a young QB to develop. He probably won't finish out his new current contract, as history show he doesn't, therefore the future QB now is a veteran like McNair.
What? One of the worst ideas I have ever heard. Like McNair is going to leave Tenn to be Bledsoe's back up. :rolleyes:
 
With a guy like Parcells there and a veteran, winning club? I'd bring in Aaron Brooks, honestly. Maybe Patrick Ramsey. Someone young to backup Bledsoe in the short term. OBviously those guys would have to take a big time paycut, but both are young enough while also being experienced enough to be a viable backup for a year or two and then assume the starting role.

 
With a guy like Parcells there and a veteran, winning club? I'd bring in Aaron Brooks, honestly. Maybe Patrick Ramsey. Someone young to backup Bledsoe in the short term. OBviously those guys would have to take a big time paycut, but both are young enough while also being experienced enough to be a viable backup for a year or two and then assume the starting role.
Colin you must hate Dallas....Brooks? With Parcells??? Actually it might be worth it for comedy sake.For me, Brook is a definite pass. Ramsey maybe. I don't see the Cowboys addressing the QB situation this year at all. O-line/LB/FS/WR/K will be where we focus on through the draft and FA.

 
With a guy like Parcells there and a veteran, winning club? I'd bring in Aaron Brooks, honestly. Maybe Patrick Ramsey. Someone young to backup Bledsoe in the short term. OBviously those guys would have to take a big time paycut, but both are young enough while also being experienced enough to be a viable backup for a year or two and then assume the starting role.
Colin you must hate Dallas....Brooks? With Parcells??? Actually it might be worth it for comedy sake.For me, Brook is a definite pass. Ramsey maybe. I don't see the Cowboys addressing the QB situation this year at all. O-line/LB/FS/WR/K will be where we focus on through the draft and FA.
Aaron Brooks may drive people insane, and I'm not saying this just in terms of FF, but the guy has as much talent as any Young QB. He makes DUMB mistakes, but h's likely to be a cheaper, more effective option than a rookie or someone like Kerry Collins for a team wanting a different optino at QB.
 
You are entitled to your opinion, but he doesn't fit the MO of a Parcells QB.

Just my two cents.
Oh, I agree with you on that. Completely. i"m just saying from the team standpoint for the time 3-4 years from now when Parcells and Bledsoe are gone but Jones/Barber3, Ware, Burnett, Spears, Newman, etc. are all hitting their prime.
 

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