Shrine Game Week Open Thread (1 Viewer)

[Sigmund Bloom]

Hey folks - a few of you that were here last night may have gotten teased by a preview of my NFL Day piece - It should go up on the site's main page. In the meantime, I'll be around on and off all day. It's really an exhilarating experience being able to be a fly on the wall while these players futures are being forged on the practice field. We talked to agents, a few scouts, John Murphy from the player selection committee (the guy who clued me in on Colston last January), Dan Reeves, Mike Singletary, and Keith Jackson (eagles, not ABC), not to mention getting a much better grasp on the players we saw all week, especially the offensive skill players. I'm happy to talk about any players, the experience as a whole, or any of the people we talked to (interviews coming on the audible)

Fire away...

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

anyone? Bueller?

Where's my draft obsessed peoples?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Did we mention that Drew Tate sucked?

 

[lod2005]

Ok give me all your info on Paul Williams.

 

[coolnerd]

I have a general question. I have noticed that you have not had a serious disagreement with Cecil on any player. Are the good/bad players that obvious this year or the audio presentation a combination of notes.?

 

[makwaloon]

Bloom,

Thanks for doing this. Has Wisconsin LB Mark Zalewski done anything to stand out positively or negatively?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I have a general question. I have noticed that you have not had a serious disagreement with Cecil on any player. Are the good/bad players that obvious this year or the audio presentation a combination of notes.?

Check out the NFL day piece when it goes up, i talk about how Cec and I disagreed about Tyrone Moss and Steve Breaston - although we did converge a bit as the week went on.But, yeah to your main question, its more about presentation - also, we are reporting how these guys looked in practice, this is an objective observation - the eye doesnt lie. We still have some difference of opinion about these guys future, but not necessarily how they looked this week. The good/bad players do stand out.Also, there is ton going on each day, four drills at once at most times. We cant watch everything - so we split up, and fill each other in on what we saw - so it may sound like we agree, when we are really going off the same combined observations - that is also correct.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Yeah, how about you two stop talking about my IDP sleeper, Bishop.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Ok give me all your info on Paul Williams.

I can only repeat my observations from Monday and Tuesday because I watched the East O against the West D all day on Wednesday. Physically, he's very impressive, and looks like a first rounder (strictly physically). He's smooth/fluid, has good, but not outstanding hands, and LONG arms, i mean Plaxico Burress or Chris Chambers arms. He's was very quick and sharp in drills running routes, and again, was very impressive to watch in a vacuum. He also seemed very coachable during the drillsNow, do these tools translate to production? Not always, and apparently especially not in games. Cecil says more about how he did yesterday in the NFL day podcast - but it wasn't really that great.Williams has endless potential, and we think his combine numbers will bear that out, but there's a red flag that he can't turn that into production. If he can put it together, watch out.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Bloom,Thanks for doing this. Has Wisconsin LB Mark Zalewski done anything to stand out positively or negatively?

I read "other" opinions on the practices and this name was getting very high praise. Then I checked out his history and well, we should have already been talking about him.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Yeah, how about you two stop talking about my IDP sleeper, Bishop.

The last time I completed a mock, I put him in the first round. There's no hiding a guy who is everywhere and hits like Bishop.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Yeah, how about you two stop talking about my IDP sleeper, Bishop.

The last time I completed a mock, I put him in the first round. There's no hiding a guy who is everywhere and hits like Bishop.

Bishop was very conspicious with his hitting and the west D rallied around him and a few other fiery players. I really wanted to interview Desmond Bishop "Tutu" yesterday, but got sidetracked and he was gone before I caught him.I will say that he's not the best in coverage. Singletary was balling him out for guessing in coverage instead of reacting, which adds to the already conventional belief that he's more of a Trotter type, two down run stuffer. That being said, man does he hit. It is even more impressive at field level. He was even delivering hits with his helmet off - he's just a man possessed out there.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Bloom,Thanks for doing this. Has Wisconsin LB Mark Zalewski done anything to stand out positively or negatively?

I read "other" opinions on the practices and this name was getting very high praise. Then I checked out his history and well, we should have already been talking about him.

Im gonna have to plead ignorance here. In the course of the week, we were primarily watching the offensive skill positions, with some exceptions, as there were definitely lineman and defenders I made a special effort to watch closely for at least a 5 minute stretch. Zalewski was one of the faster East LBs in pursuit when I watched them, but to be honest, he didnt stand out for any good or bad reasons.

 

[Chaos Commish]

The other Fresno players? From a measureable standpoint those three are NFL quality. It sounds like Williams is trying to make a statement. Kyle Young was also praised in the other stuff I read. McCauley hasn't been mentioned much.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

My draft interest is only about 3 rounds deep, so the guys I have interest in are more of the "bigger" names, some you've already discussed elsewhere:

East

Chris Leak

Steve Breaston

Tyrone Moss

Doug Free

Dallas Baker

Dan Bazuin

Baraka Atkins

West

Joel Filani

John Wendling (yes CC, the top THREE rounds)

Jon Cornish

Paul Soliai

Mkristo Bruce

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

The other Fresno players? From a measureable standpoint those three are NFL quality. It sounds like Williams is trying to make a statement. Kyle Young was also praised in the other stuff I read. McCauley hasn't been mentioned much.

McCauley wasn't there.Young is just as massive as you would expect. He did some nice work inside, as the west QBs were generally enjoying good pockets and the RBs had holes to run inside - as I watched East O against West D, I can't say anything about how Young looked yesterday.Williams is really awe inspiring physically. I just can't harp on that enough.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Notes added

My draft interest is only about 3 rounds deep, so the guys I have interest in are more of the "bigger" names, some you've already discussed elsewhere:

East

Chris Leak - senior bowl

Steve Breaston - player of the day on NFL day - read my NFL day piece for more info, ill post a link when its up

Tyrone Moss - looked like the most natural runner, had great hands, but lacked burst. We got an interview with him, should be up before we leave for the Senior Bowl

Doug Free - got ABUSED tuesday, but apparently recovered Wednesday (although I was watching the West O, not the East) I did notice that he showed some strength once he got his hands on the rusher, sometimes he just didnt get in position to do that.

Dallas Baker - senior bowl

Dan Bazuin - showed some of the best speed rushing from the edge of any of the DEs, along with Brian Robison and Justin Hickman and..

Baraka Atkins - John Murphy from the player selection committee singled out Atkins as a guy that improved his stock this week (listen the interview coming up later this week for more detail) - Atkins was terrific ont he rush and showed the ability to play in multiple positions on the line.

West

Joel Filani - better quicks than I thought, but consistency fell off as the week went on. both of the red raider WRs were mostly disappointing, although Hicks was more of a downer. Filani's size still makes him very draftable.

John Wendling (yes CC, the top THREE rounds) - good in the box safety, but slow to react in coverage, although he consistently flashed some of the best ball skills of any of the DBs.

Jon Cornish - got better as the week went on. Cec watched him on wed, he was impressed. Not explosive, but smart, good vision, efficient, tough, willing.

Paul Soliai - got some penetration and read a screen pass on wed - earlier in the week, the west OL had the upper hand, but he seemed to do more damage on wed than he did earlier in the week.

Mkristo Bruce - failed to impress - wasn't even in the top half of pass rushing ends in the practices imo.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Strange they haven't updated the rosters on the main Shrine Bowl page. They still have Leak and Baker on them. Whatever.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Williams is really awe inspiring physically. I just can't harp on that enough.

When I dissed him very hard in my WR rankings, I was a little bitter about the whole season. :X Some of that goes with my McCauley criticisms too. Sorry, I'm human and those losers angered me with all that talent. And I really like Pat Hill or White whateve his last name is.

Anyway, as soon as I put Williams at WR15, I went and looked at his highlights and knew I was being unfair. Oh well, I will upgrade him. I haven't listened to the podcasts yet, so I don't know what all has been said, but one think I like about Williams is his power. As a junior he could literally push the pile like a big fullback. As a senior gnats knocked him over, but nevermind that. Let me look for that highlight reel.

Yep. This is the one. He is a stud.

 

[Chaos Commish]

McCauley wasn't there.

Was't as in isn't? :X

 

[Chaos Commish]

Yep. This is the one. He is a stud.

Right at the 2 minute mark is a great example of how powerful he is.

 

[Chaos Commish]

John Wendling (yes CC, the top THREE rounds) - good in the box safety, but slow to react in coverage, although he consistently flashed some of the best ball skills of any of the DBs.

All I remember saying about Wendling was he fall down go boom when trying to cover sneaky small guy.Also, my negative comments were a reaction to reading insanely high praise at another site. Wendling should measure out as one of the physical freaks in the draft. He will time very fast. He has great size. He has a lot to offer, but from what I saw, he lacks fluidity (in coverage) and instincts (in tackling angles) of an NFL DB.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

McCauley wasn't there.

Was't as in isn't?

I never saw him on the rosters, and i didn't see any Dbs that werent on the roster, or bulldog helmeted guys I didnt recognize.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

John Wendling (yes CC, the top THREE rounds) - good in the box safety, but slow to react in coverage, although he consistently flashed some of the best ball skills of any of the DBs.

All I remember saying about Wendling was he fall down go boom when trying to cover sneaky small guy.Also, my negative comments were a reaction to reading insanely high praise at another site. Wendling should measure out as one of the physical freaks in the draft. He will time very fast. He has great size. He has a lot to offer, but from what I saw, he lacks fluidity (in coverage) and instincts (in tackling angles) of an NFL DB.

It's in my nature to take something and run with it. Internet message boards make it worse.You know I luv ya. In a hetero, mutual respect sort of way, I mean.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Check out the NFL day piece when it goes up, i talk about how Cec and I disagreed about Tyrone Moss and Steve Breaston - although we did converge a bit as the week went on.

Can you preview or summarize the points of contention? These two probably interest more than any. When I put Moss so high, it was based on long term potential with no knowledge of his personality (desire, work ethic, etc.). I still believe if those things are strong he ranks very high among the backs in this class (3rd).

 

[Chaos Commish]

Mkistro Bruce?

 

[beto]

Any teams particularily interested in Steve Breaston?

Keep it classy Bloom

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Check out the NFL day piece when it goes up, i talk about how Cec and I disagreed about Tyrone Moss and Steve Breaston - although we did converge a bit as the week went on.

Can you preview or summarize the points of contention? These two probably interest more than any. When I put Moss so high, it was based on long term potential with no knowledge of his personality (desire, work ethic, etc.). I still believe if those things are strong he ranks very high among the backs in this class (3rd).

I thought Moss's lack of burst and explosion would doom him. Cecil said he was more of a power back and had some moves, even if they weren't highlight moves. He didnt have the burst this week, but he read holes very well, made some moves to find daylight when there was seemingly none, and even got small to get through cracks in the line. He's a natural RB, the question is whether his lack of a great burst will hold him back.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Mkistro Bruce?

Just not getting a lot of pressure. That's all I can say because I didnt focus on him at all.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Any teams particularily interested in Steve Breaston?Keep it classy Bloom

None in particular, but you can't tell much from who talks to which players at these games. Its usually a red herring, at least based on how it bore out last year.

 

[WhoDat]

The college resumes are for the most part complete. Thus, who is looking best in practice? Now, that money is really on the line, who is busting tail? Who are the two best looking offensive players and two best defensive players?

 

[Chaos Commish]

Check out the NFL day piece when it goes up, i talk about how Cec and I disagreed about Tyrone Moss and Steve Breaston - although we did converge a bit as the week went on.

Can you preview or summarize the points of contention? These two probably interest more than any. When I put Moss so high, it was based on long term potential with no knowledge of his personality (desire, work ethic, etc.). I still believe if those things are strong he ranks very high among the backs in this class (3rd).

I thought Moss's lack of burst and explosion would doom him. Cecil said he was more of a power back and had some moves, even if they weren't highlight moves. He didnt have the burst this week, but he read holes very well, made some moves to find daylight when there was seemingly none, and even got small to get through cracks in the line. He's a natural RB, the question is whether his lack of a great burst will hold him back.

Burst may indeed burn him, and I cannot say for certain if he ever was particularly explosive. He was, like Lynch, very shifty and powerful for a man his size and he was over 230 at the time. Add to that homerun speed and you had a nice prospect. But suddenness in the hole I cannot say is something I ever noted about him before the knee.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

The college resumes are for the most part complete. Thus, who is looking best in practice? Now, that money is really on the line, who is busting tail? Who are the two best looking offensive players and two best defensive players?

Two plus a few bonus guys:Best offense: Jacoby Jones, WR, Lane, Steve Breaston, WR, Michigan, Jason Snelling, RB, Virginia, Zac Taylor, QB, Nebraska, Ben Patrick, TE, DelawareBest defense: Brian Robison, DE, Texas, Bo Smith, DB, Weber State, Dan Bazuin, DE, CMU

 

[tex]

Bloom I'm interested in a comparison between Moss and Gore since they are both 'Canes and both coming into the draft with the baggage of the knee injuries. Is there any comparison? I recall Gore slipped quite a bit because of the knee injuries and look where he is now. Thanks.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Bloom I'm interested in a comparison between Moss and Gore since they are both 'Canes and both coming into the draft with the baggage of the knee injuries. Is there any comparison? I recall Gore slipped quite a bit because of the knee injuries and look where he is now. Thanks.

I should let Cecil take this one as the Moss fan - all I can say is that Moss is not the neverending engine of determination that Gore is, but he's bigger and more powerful. Moss told us in his interview that they are very close friends.

 

[toastedgnome]

How did you and Lammey get along, and what did you do for fun while in Houston!

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

How did you and Lammey get along, and what did you do for fun while in Houston!

Lammey's a blast, and he's luckily past his hotel room trashing days (just ask him) - we didn't live it up too crazy - it was a working vacation, just grabbed a six pack since the holiday inn express had a fridge in the room. We were recording and writing a lot of the time we weren't at the practices - Mobile should be no different.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

I have a general question. I have noticed that you have not had a serious disagreement with Cecil on any player. Are the good/bad players that obvious this year or the audio presentation a combination of notes.?

coolnerd-Bloom and I disagreed on Breaston and Moss. But from what they've done in practice we largely agreed upon. Be on the lookout for our "Cover 2" segment of the Audible. On our roadtrip to Mobile this weekend we are going to be debating players like Tyrone Moss and Michael Bush. Gotta do something to pass the time while driving. That plus Bloom might be sick of Anthrax very early into the ride!

 

[Cecil Lammey]

John Wendling (yes CC, the top THREE rounds) - good in the box safety, but slow to react in coverage, although he consistently flashed some of the best ball skills of any of the DBs.

All I remember saying about Wendling was he fall down go boom when trying to cover sneaky small guy.Also, my negative comments were a reaction to reading insanely high praise at another site. Wendling should measure out as one of the physical freaks in the draft. He will time very fast. He has great size. He has a lot to offer, but from what I saw, he lacks fluidity (in coverage) and instincts (in tackling angles) of an NFL DB.

Wendling is pretty stiff in the hips when backpedaling and changing direction, but he gives 100% effort on every play. He'll make an impact on Sundays IMHO.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

Any teams particularily interested in Steve Breaston?Keep it classy Bloom

I remember seeing the Patriots, Browns, and Texans talking to Breaston after practice.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Bloom I'm interested in a comparison between Moss and Gore since they are both 'Canes and both coming into the draft with the baggage of the knee injuries. Is there any comparison? I recall Gore slipped quite a bit because of the knee injuries and look where he is now. Thanks.

I should let Cecil take this one as the Moss fan - all I can say is that Moss is not the neverending engine of determination that Gore is, but he's bigger and more powerful. Moss told us in his interview that they are very close friends.

And Gore wasn't running as hard when he first hit the league. Gore's emergence is why I went back a year to consider Moss's prospects. Tyrone Moss outplayed Frank Gore when Gore was a senior and Moss was a sophomore. Interesting if nothing else.I also remember the game early in the season two years ago before the injury. We had a thread here about RBs. The OP listed a half dozen. The first response was Tyrone Moss. He played that weekend and I came back with the good posting thing. I saw this kid show everything you want to see. Power, moves, hands, blocking, vision (great vision), and breakaway speed. Will that come back? Dunno.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I'm still around if you guys have any questions...

 

[Rovers]

Is there a link anywhere that has the all star game rosters on it? I know the Senior Bowl hasn't finalized it yet, but is there some place that shows who has invites? Secondly, has my FBG subscription run out? I thought it was good thru the Supe, but I can't get to the podcasts. Do I have to re-up now to get the reports you guys are filing?

The roster question..... was initiated because I was looking for info on Marques Murrell, DE Appalachian ST, Div II, up for the Buck Buchanan Award, brother of ex-NFL'er Adrian Murrell. Is he going to any of the post season all star games? TIA....

 

[Chaos Commish]

Marques Murrell, DE Appalachian ST, Div II, up for the Buck Buchanan Award, brother of ex-NFL'er Adrian Murrell. Is he going to any of the post season all star games? TIA....

Murrell already played in a small school all star game. The Magnolia Bowl or something. I have my eye on him too. He is such a Parcells kind of pick. At least his value should be good and I think he has pretty good prospects. In tandem with Jason Hunter, Murrell and App State were just ridiculous two years ago. Hunter and Murrell looked like twins to me. Hunter went undrafted, bounced around a little and ended up with Packers and playing very solid with an ever increasing role in the last few weeks. He is a great special teamer and I would guess Murrell will give the same effort. Murrell should get drafted though. This class is much much weaker and sometime as early as the 3rd and surely by the 5th some 3-4 team will probably take Murrell. I think he and Hunter are both going to do well in the NFL. I am concerned he didn't play in the IntaJuice or Hula though. Seems a guy who led the nation in sacks a good part of the season, and who pretty much dominated for two straight years would have warranted a closer look. He does have a Combine invite, and he did spend Magnolia Week playing LB for the assistant scouting interns there.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Is there a link anywhere that has the all star game rosters on it? I know the Senior Bowl hasn't finalized it yet, but is there some place that shows who has invites? Secondly, has my FBG subscription run out? I thought it was good thru the Supe, but I can't get to the podcasts. Do I have to re-up now to get the reports you guys are filing? The roster question..... was initiated because I was looking for info on Marques Murrell, DE Appalachian ST, Div II, up for the Buck Buchanan Award, brother of ex-NFL'er Adrian Murrell. Is he going to any of the post season all star games? TIA....

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[Tenacious D]

Enjoyed the podcasts and article.

Were there measurments and a weigh-in...are those stats available anywhere?

Which RBs did Denver not talk to so we can add them to the list of possible starters there next season?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Enjoyed the podcasts and article. Were there measurments and a weigh-in...are those stats available anywhere?Which RBs did Denver not talk to so we can add them to the list of possible starters there next season?

There was a weigh-in, but we did not get the official results - Ill see if I can scare em up while we're at the Senior Bowl.I did overhear the Denver scouts talking about Antonio Pittman, but as always, take it with a grain of salt.

 

[Finatic]

Which podcast has the blurb on Jacoby Jone's draft stock????

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Which podcast has the blurb on Jacoby Jone's draft stock????

QBs Zac Taylor (Nebraska), Matt Gutierrez (Idaho St), and John Murphy (Shrine Game Selection)

 

[Finatic]

Which podcast has the blurb on Jacoby Jone's draft stock????

QBs Zac Taylor (Nebraska), Matt Gutierrez (Idaho St), and John Murphy (Shrine Game Selection)

Thanx Bloom.Appreciate the excellent insight from you and Cecil this week...........