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Sidney Rice undergoes hip surgery (1 Viewer)

Sigmund Bloom

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per Star Tribune reporter Judd Zulgad

Just filed a story that Vikings WR Sidney Rice has been in Vail, Colo., in

recent days to have his hip examined at the Steadman Clinic

It sounds as if there is a very good chance Rice will end up having surgery

on his injured hip.

Sounds like Sidney Rice could miss first half of the season with this

surgery.
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Sigmund Bloom said:
link

per Star Tribune reporter Judd Zulgad

Just filed a story that Vikings WR Sidney Rice has been in Vail, Colo., in

recent days to have his hip examined at the Steadman Clinic

It sounds as if there is a very good chance Rice will end up having surgery

on his injured hip.

Sounds like Sidney Rice could miss first half of the season with this

surgery.
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oprah's steadman?let's see if this can stay under wraps for a few days...

 
LawFitz said:
Raider Nation said:
billyjohnson said:
Babu Bhatt2 said:
This, and Harvin's headaches, make Berrian a WR2 IMO.
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And Favre a QB 14?
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Yep, he just dropped like a stone on my board. Gotta think this is great news for AD owners, as if he could get any better.
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Didn't AP have his best year last year with defenses forced to respect the passing game more?
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TD-wise, yes. But he was almost 400 yards shy of his 2008 rushing total. I've had him since he was drafted, and I found myself cursing Favre every week last season for throwing so much.But the TDs were definitely there... can't argue with that.
 
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Raider Nation said:
LawFitz said:
Raider Nation said:
billyjohnson said:
Babu Bhatt2 said:
This, and Harvin's headaches, make Berrian a WR2 IMO.
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And Favre a QB 14?
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Yep, he just dropped like a stone on my board. Gotta think this is great news for AD owners, as if he could get any better.
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Didn't AP have his best year last year with defenses forced to respect the passing game more?
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TD-wise, yes. But he was almost 400 yards shy of his 2008 rushing total. I've had him since he was drafted, and I found myself cursing Favre every week last season for throwing so much.But the TDs were definitely there... can't argue with that.
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And how did his receiving yards compare?I don't think a collapse in the Minny passing game is at all good for AP. He will still be a stud, but I'd most certainly lessen expectations as a result.
 
LawFitz said:
Raider Nation said:
LawFitz said:
Didn't AP have his best year last year with defenses forced to respect the passing game more?
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TD-wise, yes. But he was almost 400 yards shy of his 2008 rushing total. I've had him since he was drafted, and I found myself cursing Favre every week last season for throwing so much.But the TDs were definitely there... can't argue with that.
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And how did his receiving yards compare?
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Still had more total yards in '08, but yeah. I don't think this news will negatively affect AD in the least. Who were the stud WRs in Tennessee last year keeping defenses honest for CJ?
 
[quote name='Raider Nation' date='Aug 24 2010, 12:22 AM' post='12191671'

Who were the stud WRs in Tennessee last year keeping defenses honest for CJ?

I hate to be argumentative, but that's a dubious comparison. The better point would be how CJ4.24's stats dramatically improved once Vince Young entered the lineup and provided some sort of balance (or at least an additional threat) for the offense. Kerry Collins is terrible!!!

 
LawFitz said:
I hate to be argumentative, but that's a dubious comparison. The better point would be how CJ4.24's stats dramatically improved once Vince Young entered the lineup and provided some sort of balance (or at least an additional threat) for the offense. Kerry Collins is terrible!!!
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I won't dispute that. But if you tell me that losing Rice will hurt Peterson, you can't just dismiss my question as unfair. Tennessee's leading WR had what, 700 yards or so? Even if the receiving corps in Tennessee and Minnesota are equally inept this year, Young is more respected by defenses than Favre?
 
nothing is certain yet on Rice - I think this is being over blown a little - he may miss a few games but IMO not 1/2 the season.

 
Not Sure said:
Any reason why he waited until now instead of earlier in the offseason?
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This is what I don't get. They've been talking about this for weeks if not months. Bad news for a couple of my fantasy teams already, good news for the Dallas Cowboys and anyone else competing in the NFC. Home field advantage is huge and not having to play in that dome at the end of the year increases everyone's chances to get to the SB as the Vikes were undefeated in that place last year including the playoffs.
 
The Moz said:
nothing is certain yet on Rice - I think this is being over blown a little - he may miss a few games but IMO not 1/2 the season.
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Are you a surgeon or have you examined him? Not to be a jerk but how would you have any clue how bad his hip is, what procedure they'll have to do and the recovery time.
 
from Rotoworld...

SIDNEY RICE

Injury: Lingering hip pain

Timetable: Questionable for Week 1

The Vikings and Rice have both declined to specify the exact nature of Rice's injury even though this has lingered for seven months. What could be going on here? It could be anything from a hip pointer to a sports hernia to a bad bruise or bursitis. We don't know if it's something internal like a labrum type of thing or something external related to soft tissue.

Rice reportedly saw three specialists and two recommended surgery. What does that tell you? If he has labrum damage or cartilage damage in his hip, that's where they'd probably come in and do surgery. But if you have that type of surgery, you're looking at several months off from sports.

So if he has labrum damage as suspected, will he be limited when he tries to play through it? Well, it might just be pain. He'd get an injection and be able to play. I don't think he's going to suffer any gross weakness or gross instability. Hockey players and goalies have this all the time. You can argue that 10 years ago that no one was really doing this kind of surgery. That type of procedure was very uncommon but players did function.

 
Rice saw 3 specialists and 2 recommended surgery? This injury has been going on for seven months....

I question this guys intelligence and desire to play this game at this point. Also wonder how the Minn training staff wasn't more proactive with this. From an outsiders view it does not seem like the Vikings organization has handled many things right this offseason.

Disappointing news for Minny fans...

 
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Couple thoughts - Maybe they didn't make this info public before Favre made his decision for a reason?

Also - with these banged up receivers, any way Shiancoe can go 70/700/14??? That's not a stretch considering last years #'s

 
Had this article in the can yesterday in the first group of a new series of injury articles we'll be doing this season. Don't know if we'll publish it with the new developments, but I'll put it here for now.

Second Opinion: Inside the Injury Report

Sidney Rice

After flashing signs of the downfield and red zone threat he might become, Sidney Rice exploded onto the fantasy scene last year with Brett Favre under center. After Rice endured a day’s worth of criticism for passing on Larry Fitzgerald’s conditioning and passing camp this summer, Drew Rosenhaus tweeted that Rice had been dealing with a lingering hip injury that he had suffered during the playoffs last season. Since those July tweets, Rice’s condition has been a hotly debated topic. At times, he appears to be making progress and is expected to be ready for the regular season, only to have another setback of some kind putting his availability back up in the air.

What’s the injury?

There has been no definitive diagnosis provided for Rice’s condition. We’ve been told that the injury was suffered during a playoff game last season and continues to linger, that it’s not a “groin” injury and that Rice has seen three separate specialists since January. There have been reports that two of the three specialists recommended surgery and Rice himself said that he thought surgery may have been the best course of action at one point. It’s also been suggested that Rice would have missed 4-6 weeks had he undergone surgery. Rice describes his condition as general soreness that’s tolerable when he’s moving in a straight line but made worse when he’s cutting, bending or coming out of breaks.

Even without a definitive medical diagnosis, there’s room to speculate with the above details. Given the description of Rice’s pain and the rumored 4-6 week timetable for recovery had he undergone surgery, we can likely rule out any major structural damage to the joint. Again, though I’m freely speculating here, I think it’s Rosenhaus’ tweet that it’s not a “groin” injury that might be most telling. I think that implies that Rice’s pain is near the groin, but doesn’t involve the groin muscles/tendons themselves. There are two hip conditions (and possibly others) that might fit Rice’s story – a labral tear or significant hip flexor strain. Both are associated with groin pain, both may need surgery if they become chronic conditions and both could certainly linger despite rest and rehabilitation.

What’s the medical prognosis?

Without a definite diagnosis, we’re really through the looking glass on a prognosis. If the reports that two of the three specialists Rice visited recommended surgery are more accurate than speculation that contract games and the absence of Favre in camp have Rice dragging his feet, it’s a huge red flag that this condition will not improve this year, whatever it may be. If rest and rehabilitation for six months hasn’t allowed Rice to comfortably move in anything other than a straight line, holding him out of practice during the week between games won’t either. It’s reasonable to worry that Rice’s lateral movement, explosion off the line and leaping ability may all be affected by this family of injuries. It’s also reasonable to worry that Rice may opt for surgery at any point during the season, since surgery has apparently already been recommended and strongly considered.

What’s the fantasy prognosis?

Though there’s not a lot of information to go on, Rice remains on PUP and has said that he’s having difficulty making football movements. That’s a major concern for a receiver who makes a living on his explosion off the line and in the air. If Rice is unable to separate at the line of scrimmage or win the ball at its highest point on deep balls and in the red zone, his fantasy upside is severely limited. Even if this injury proves more hype than substance, there’s clearly enough going on with the hip that Rice will have to play through pain, something he didn’t do well when a knee injury slowed him two seasons ago. There are also valid concerns that his missed time during camp will hurt his football conditioning and timing with Favre and result in a slow start during the first couple of weeks. Finally, though Rice may prove that he can play through the pain of the hip injury, he may be a setup for a compensatory injury if he alters his playing style to compensate.

We may learn that this injury was much ado about nothing and watch Rice build on his breakout 2009 season. But there are just too many red flags here – late start in camp, possibility that the injury keeps Rice from his usual style of play, risk of compensatory injury, multiple surgery recommendations (include Rice’s own concern) and the possibility of multiple missed games if surgery becomes an option during the season – to trust Rice as a WR1 or even a WR2 in the third and fourth rounds. Unless I see him moving like the Rice of 2009 before my upcoming drafts, I won’t consider drafting him until at least the 6th round and likely won’t move on him until he provides so much upside as a WR3 that he’s worth the risk of multiple missed games.
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If the surgery and rehab doesn't keep Rice out for the entire season, many of the concerns I note at the end (compensatory injuries, limitations on his playing style, etc) are less likely to be an issue. If things go very well, Rice could be a nice late season play. I don't think I'd touch him until 2011 unless I was in the mood to gamble or he was available with no risk.
 
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The Vikes were very lucky last year to avoid the injury bug until EJ Henderson went down late in the season. That coupled with fluky wins (San Fran; Baltimore) made this team look better than it was. This year, they will not get the breaks. All those that already had them in the SB should re-consider.

 
I don't get the blaming Sidney Rice for not having surgery earlier and questioning his desire to play. Obviously the team doctors have been aware of the injury for a long while. I am sure both sides had discussions and they felt it would heal given time and it just has not responded. If the Vikings had been concerned about the healing earlier I am sure this team would have persued other options during the draft or free agency. Still, a shame for a guy who really emerged last season to be losing significant time with an injury.

 
Sweetness_34 said:
The Vikes were very lucky last year to avoid the injury bug until EJ Henderson went down late in the season. That coupled with fluky wins (San Fran; Baltimore) made this team look better than it was. This year, they will not get the breaks. All those that already had them in the SB should re-consider.
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And I would say that the Saints win in the NFC Championship game was a fluke. The Saints got outplayed in that game.The Vikings will still be in the thick of things in the NFC North and beyond.
 
Sweetness_34 said:
The Vikes were very lucky last year to avoid the injury bug until EJ Henderson went down late in the season. That coupled with fluky wins (San Fran; Baltimore) made this team look better than it was. This year, they will not get the breaks. All those that already had them in the SB should re-consider.
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And I would say that the Saints win in the NFC Championship game was a fluke. The Saints got outplayed in that game.The Vikings will still be in the thick of things in the NFC North and beyond.
 
Woogie Lee said:
King of the Jungle said:
I question this guys intelligence and desire to play this game at this point.
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lol....okay.
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I was joking ... a little.This is a non-issue if he would have followed the guidance of the specialist this offseason. Not a very intelligent decision to wait until the 3rd preseason game to figure this out. From an outsiders perspective it doesn't sound like he is making the right decisions to get back on the field. Of course none of us know the exact situation. The point is the injury is seven months old and is still an issue. The decision making for the situation over the course of the injury seems to be poor at best.
 
Those that drafted Harvin are about to really reap the rewards of that wise investment. Wish I would have pulled the trigger earlier on him now in a few leagues. :thumbup:

 
Donny Loved Bowling said:
Bump up Javon Walker!(Eh, probably not.)
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It's just not so hard to believe though. There's been a slew of guys over the years that have gotten it together later in their career when opportunity presented itself.Walker threw his promising career away with a poor attitude not so unlike a young Kennison. He was (ROY?) set to play opposite Bruce and form a great 1-2 combo.
 
wish I could shoot the messenger here as that's brutal news but...Thanks Bloom

Between guys, not docs, doesn't 8 weeks seem awfully short for hip surgery? Then again, I only know of older people having hip surgery

 
Iwannabeacowboybaby! said:
Not Sure said:
Any reason why he waited until now instead of earlier in the offseason?
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This is what I don't get. They've been talking about this for weeks if not months. Bad news for a couple of my fantasy teams already, good news for the Dallas Cowboys and anyone else competing in the NFC. Home field advantage is huge and not having to play in that dome at the end of the year increases everyone's chances to get to the SB as the Vikes were undefeated in that place last year including the playoffs.
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I was thinking the same thing. Why wait all off-season. My brother thought it could be related to trying to get a new contract. Maybe didn't want to seem like it was a big deal or something. Either way - it really really stinks..
 
The Moz said:
nothing is certain yet on Rice - I think this is being over blown a little - he may miss a few games but IMO not 1/2 the season.
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Well so much for this...according to Rotoworld Rice has already had the surgery.
 
Deranged Hermit said:
Those that drafted Harvin are about to really reap the rewards of that wise investment. Wish I would have pulled the trigger earlier on him now in a few leagues. :)
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I don't think so. Harvin is a slot guy, and while his numbers may go up a little, I think the biggest bump goes to Berrian and Shiancoe. I think Berrian is a 900-1000 yard guy with Rice out, and Shiancoe in the 700-800 yard range. Another WR--maybe Lewis, maybe Walker, maybe someone else--will probably emerge with 300-400 yards receiving.Also, a bump to Peterson and whoever wins the 3RB role.
 
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Coming from a Bears fan who watched his team get smoked by Favre over and over and over again, I can promise you that the passing game will be fine in Minnesota with or without Rice. It'd help to at least have Harvin but someone will step up and teams will still have AP to worry about. As long as Favre has his vicospinach he'll be just fine.

 
Looking past this year, are any of you worried about future complications? Could he be a good buy-low for a rebuilding dynasty team?

As for this year, I do agree that he should have had the surgery earlier. This isn't a new injury or anything. But then again, the Vikes were obviously involved in the decision to hold off of surgery, so it's probably not all his fault.

 
CB31 said:
Looking past this year, are any of you worried about future complications? Could he be a good buy-low for a rebuilding dynasty team?

As for this year, I do agree that he should have had the surgery earlier. This isn't a new injury or anything. But then again, the Vikes were obviously involved in the decision to hold off of surgery, so it's probably not all his fault.
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Are there not similar concerns for Marshall's hips?
 
CB31 said:
Looking past this year, are any of you worried about future complications? Could he be a good buy-low for a rebuilding dynasty team?
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How could you not be concerned for the future. The guy could be damaged good at this point, I'd wait and find out before I pulled any trigger. Yes, he could be a good buy low, yes he could be damaged goods. I mean, there's all kinds of stock out there you can buy, but for the price of what this guy will most likely cost, I don't want him. If there's a guy that's willing to practically give him away for free, then of course that's without being said but realistically it's too risky of a move to go after this guy. Huge question mark for this year and the rest of his career.

 
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