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just drafted this kid and although I like his size (6'4", 200lbs), I have read that he is not blazing speed and obviously he is not in a great offense.

he does not have a big time receiver ahead of him and Tavaris Jackson isn't going to make anybody forget Dan Marino but he might have one thing this year and that is opportunity.

drafted in the 2nd round..

with "only" Bobby Wade and fellow gamecock Troy Williamson in front of him.

reminds me of Anquan circa 2003.. hopefully :fingerscrossed:

 
He's really nothing like Anquan if you've seen him play. I'm not saying he can't be good, just that their physical profile and their skill sets are vastly different. Rice is ultra-skinny and doesn't run precision routes. He came into last season at USC with a ton of hype/expectation and really failed to grow as a player. On the positive, he's got tremendous leaping ability and is probably already the Vikings best "jump ball" receiver, which may be something they desperately need with a green QB like Tarvaris Jackson throwing the ball downfield. The really big question for Rice at the NFL level is whether he can get off the line of scrimmage against press coverage. What little he saw of it for the Gamecocks gave him fits, and it's only going to be that much harder at this level; given the physicality of the defensive backs.

 
This dude was extremely touted 2 years ago. At one point he was projected as 1st round pick, but senior yr (?) didnt live up to the hype. I think he could blossom, he mad some nasty plays for the cocks

 
After having drafted him in my rookie draft in May, I've been disappointed so far in how little I've heard from him during TC & Preseason..

Which doesn't necessarily mean bad things - I didn't have huge expectations for him this year. I'm still very much in a wait-and-see with Rice...

 
I have basically written him off this season. I'm holding onto him in dynasty, but undraftable in redrafts, imho.

 
You're grasping at straws if you think you got the next boldin...to add to what was already said boldin, who was abou 6'1, 220 lbs when he entered the league, has a frame that is much more built to endure the rigors of the NFL. Also everyone focuses on his slow combine time but IIRC he was a month or so removed from a knee surgery and ran a 4.45/40 a few weeks later at FSU's pro day.

 
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the hope for Boldin had less to do with size/speed etc. and more with a young receiver coming off somewhat dissapointing final college year into a situation which looked like an absolute mess. There were no big time receivers ahead of Boldin and he had a questionable starting QB who started looking at him early and often.

Other than that, I don't see any comparisons based on intangibles

i might be reaching

 
Vikings place hopes in hands of rookie wideout Sidney Rice

14 hours ago

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) — Another receiver from South Carolina?

That's what many Vikings fans were nervously wondering on draft day when Minnesota selected Sidney Rice in the second round. Former Gamecock Troy Williamson's first two years in purple had been a massive disappointment, so Rice came to training camp with many a skeptical eye cast his way.

It hasn't taken long for Rice to show he may be different.

He was the second-leading receiver for the Vikings in the pre-season, with eight catches for 53 yards and a touchdown. Rice may only be a rookie playing a position that typically takes a few years to learn, but he has already shown a playmaking ability lacking in the rest of a nondescript receiver corps.

"He's been able to come in and work with the ones in a three-receiver set and make plays and show things that rookies really aren't inclined to show as early as he's shown them," veteran receiver Bobby Wade said.

It's good news for the Vikings, who need all the help they can get as they enter the 2007 season with inexperienced quarterback Tarvaris Jackson at the helm.

"He's a tough nut, and he's just going to get better and better," coach Brad Childress said after Rice made several nice plays in the preseason finale against Dallas. "I think he's going to be 21 (years old) here in the next couple of days, so when he grows up, he has a chance to be a good player."

Many receivers can take as long as three years to get acclimated to the more complicated, faster-paced pro game, where reading coverages and modifying routes on the fly are paramount to success.

Then there are guys like Williamson, who simply have trouble catching the ball. He dropped 11 passes last season, which prevented him from taking advantage of the world-class speed that made him the No. 7 overall draft pick in 2005.

While Williamson had 91 catches for 1,753 yards and 13 TDs in three years playing for run-oriented Lou Holtz, Rice benefited from Steve Spurrier's hiring. He caught 142 passes for 2,233 yards and 23 touchdowns in just two seasons of the "Fun-n-Gun."

Since he has arrived in Minnesota, everything seems to be coming much more natural for Rice.

"It's just exciting to see him come in and pick up the offence so fast and make very few mistakes," Jackson said. "For this offence to work it can be complicated. But he's picked up pretty fast and done a great job."

His best game of the summer came on Thursday against the Cowboys, when he showed the kind of body control and field awareness uncommon among rookies.

Getting the start for Wade, who was held out for precautionary reasons with an ankle injury, Rice made sure Jackson didn't go three-and-out on his only series of the game.

On third-and-8 from the Vikings 23, Rice dragged his feet for a nifty catch on the sideline that gained 13 yards and a first down.

In the second quarter, Rice made an acrobatic leaping catch in the back of the end zone for a four-yard TD from Brooks Bollinger.

Painfully shy in public, Rice has shown plenty of maturity at a young age. He didn't even keep the ball from his first touchdown.

"No need," Rice said. "I'll wait for the real thing."

That performance, along with the rest of training camp, has given Childress the confidence to let him play right away, starting with the opener on Sunday against Atlanta.

"He'll bow up and he'll fight you, and like I said, he's a tough guy," Childress said. "He's never run as much as he's run in this training camp, but he'll be glad to go to these one-a-days and get ready for an opponent."
 
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Jackson is Culpepper (without Moss) II. Rice is Williamson II.Neither are good. Avoid.Yes, I am a Vikings fan.
I see no similarities between either of these comparisons whatsoever, other than irrelevant ones [such as the fact that both QBs are black and both WRs went to the same college]. You're reaching.
 
Boldin was a training camp sensation. I think he was a week one starter.

Rice will get some red zone looks and make a handful of big plays, but it's unlikely that he exceeds 500 receiving yards this season unless Williamson or Wade gets benched.

 
Rice is among the rawest of the rookie WRs and only 20 years old. People tend to judge rookie WRs too early.

He may not do much this year, but he will wind up being the best non Calvin Johnson WR in this draft. He has some sick talent.

 
I think he's a stud with ungodly talent. As for him being ultra skinny, I read that in the blog too. It's not true, not in the Pinkston sense like Jason makes it sound anyway. He's got some solid arms on him, a very well developed upper body, thick neck, strong back and shoulders, and he doesn't have chicken legs either. He does well in the weight room, and he can overpower smaller corners with his combo of length and strength. Like Childress says he's very tough. He didn't catch 140 balls for 2200 yards and 23 TDs as a freshman and sophomore by disappointing. It is almost silly or nitpicking to have any criticisms of him at this point, imo. Comparing him to Williamson is off. Williamson is a track guy with limited athleticism beyond his speed. Rice is an amazing athlete with great hands and astonishing play making ability. He starred in multiple sports (basketball being his second best) and was touted as a fierce competitor before he ever got to Spurrier's program. He is a battler and a scrapper who will not have issues with NFL DBs and being jammed. Too long, too strong. I agree that he's just a pup, and patience is necessary, but he's gonna be a good one, and it may start sooner than some expect.

 
Chaos Commish said:
I think he's a stud with ungodly talent. As for him being ultra skinny, I read that in the blog too. It's not true, not in the Pinkston sense like Jason makes it sound anyway. He's got some solid arms on him, a very well developed upper body, thick neck, strong back and shoulders, and he doesn't have chicken legs either. He does well in the weight room, and he can overpower smaller corners with his combo of length and strength. Like Childress says he's very tough. He didn't catch 140 balls for 2200 yards and 23 TDs as a freshman and sophomore by disappointing. It is almost silly or nitpicking to have any criticisms of him at this point, imo. Comparing him to Williamson is off. Williamson is a track guy with limited athleticism beyond his speed. Rice is an amazing athlete with great hands and astonishing play making ability. He starred in multiple sports (basketball being his second best) and was touted as a fierce competitor before he ever got to Spurrier's program. He is a battler and a scrapper who will not have issues with NFL DBs and being jammed. Too long, too strong. I agree that he's just a pup, and patience is necessary, but he's gonna be a good one, and it may start sooner than some expect.
you just had me fall in love with this kid.. glad i drafted himBring it On.. :shrug:

(i assume you saw him play at SC, correct?)

 
This dude was extremely touted 2 years ago. At one point he was projected as 1st round pick, but senior yr (?) didnt live up to the hype. I think he could blossom, he mad some nasty plays for the cocks
Two years ago he was a freshman. He was projected to be a 1st rounder next year if he stayed in school.He has no worth in redrafts this year.
 
I am a big South Carolina fan and I have seen both Williamson and Rice play alot. They are nothing alike. In my opinion, Williamson should have never been drafted as high as he was ( his performance has pretty much proven that) because the plays designed for him were short passes and he would turn them into long gains with his speed. I think Minnesota just fell in love with his speed. I always saw him as more of a slot receiver in the NFL than anything else. I still think that would play to his strengths.

Rice is very athletic! He can make adjust his body really well to make some spectacular catches. He has had a couple of great catches in the pre-season and he was also the second most targeted receiver on the Vikings during the pre-season. In college, he had some great games and some really poor games. Part of it was his QB who struggled at times as well and the fact that no other WR was really stepping up to be a solid #2 option.He gets alot of greif for playing poor but the team he was on was not all that good. That being said, there were times he absolutely needed to step up and get open and he struggled. He seemed to do well against teams out of the SEC and struggled in some of the bigger games in the SEC. He does need to get stronger and learn how to use it to his advantage. I think in two to three years he is going to be a stud. Whenever I watched him play, he always made me feel like he could eventually be a big time NFL player. His game has that kind of feel to it. Williamson never had that feel to it.

 
Jackson is Culpepper (without Moss) II. Rice is Williamson II.Neither are good. Avoid.Yes, I am a Vikings fan.
I see no similarities between either of these comparisons whatsoever, other than irrelevant ones [such as the fact that both QBs are black and both WRs went to the same college]. You're reaching.
I see similarities. I don't think Jackson will handle the blitz well. I haven't seen him make progression quickly from receiver to receiver.I could be jaded on Williamson watching the recent draft track record of Minnesota WRs. Probably stretching there. I stand by my statement to avoid both though. There are better options for a fantasy squad.
 
Before the draft, I thought Rice had the second most talent of any WR in this class. But he IS extremely raw.

He will one day be a superstar, but it won't be this season, as he has too much to learn.

 
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Looked decent in preseason game 3, but having Tavaris doesn't do much for him.
I might be in a minority here but I didn't think Jackson looked that bad. Certainly he will not be a QB1 or a QB2 this year but I thought he showed alot of promise for a bright future. He will probably hurt Rice's stats this year but it should be a great combo going forward as early as next year.
 
This dude was extremely touted 2 years ago. At one point he was projected as 1st round pick, but senior yr (?) didnt live up to the hype. I think he could blossom, he mad some nasty plays for the cocks
Two years ago he was a freshman. He was projected to be a 1st rounder next year if he stayed in school.He has no worth in redrafts this year.
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Jackson is Culpepper (without Moss) II. Rice is Williamson II.Neither are good. Avoid.Yes, I am a Vikings fan.
I see no similarities between either of these comparisons whatsoever, other than irrelevant ones [such as the fact that both QBs are black and both WRs went to the same college]. You're reaching.
I see similarities. I don't think Jackson will handle the blitz well. I haven't seen him make progression quickly from receiver to receiver.I could be jaded on Williamson watching the recent draft track record of Minnesota WRs. Probably stretching there. I stand by my statement to avoid both though. There are better options for a fantasy squad.
In redraft? Of course. That is far from making him worthelss in dynasty.He is, as others have said, maybe the "most raw" WR options in this class but it also seems like he has the best chance in the long run of being a true WR1 outside of Calvin.
 
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Rice is among the rawest of the rookie WRs and only 20 years old. People tend to judge rookie WRs too early.He may not do much this year, but he will wind up being the best non Calvin Johnson WR in this draft. He has some sick talent.
Rawest? He's the most natural WR after CJ. He catches everything thrown at him. He runs pretty good routes. He's easily ahead of Ginn, Davis, Gonzalez. I'd put him ahead of Meachem and Jarret. And really Bowe when it comes down to it.Troy Williamson is more "raw" then Rice. Rice is a natural WR. Catching, jumping, and finding space. He's not a speed guy turned into a WR. He's a WR. Rice needs to be a little more aggressive going to the ball. He needs experience. That's it. But his talents are not raw. For his age, he's an amazingly polished WR. But I agree, he has sick talent. He just needs experience and snaps. His WR abilities are already there. Bulk up a little, get more aggressive, then he's on his way. I don't see how Rice isn't starting by October.
 
I see similarities. I don't think Jackson will handle the blitz well. I haven't seen him make progression quickly from receiver to receiver.
First off, you compared him to 'Daunte without Moss,' and the only season in Minnesota partially w/o Moss was easily Daunte's best season as a pro. Hopefully you aren't alluding to Daunte's tenure in Miami as being w/o Moss, when he was clearly not recovered from triple lig surgery and playing behind a crappy line. Second, I'm the last guy to be speaking in favor of T.Jackson because I too am completely unsold, but our impression of him is based on a very poor sample, and in any event this is probably the biggest weakness of any unseasoned NFL QB. Anyway, my main gripe was why use the energy to compare him to 'Culpepper without Moss.' If you don't think he has what it takes, just say that. Comparing him to a QB who had 5100/41 isn't making your point, at all.
I could be jaded on Williamson watching the recent draft track record of Minnesota WRs. Probably stretching there. I stand by my statement to avoid both though. There are better options for a fantasy squad.
I agree it sounds like you are jaded. I don't blame you there. I agree to avoid both these guys in a redraft, and I'm doing just that. However, I'd avoid them because they are young/unproven and in what appears to be a bad offense with an unproven OC, not because they "are similar to Culpepper without Moss and Williamson."
 
I like what Ive seen from Sidney Rice to this point. I think barring injury he'll be the Vikings top receiver, and I think he has Isaac Bruce potential. I think he'll be a long term favorite in Minnesota.

 
I know a lot of Vikings fans were scratching their heads over the drafting of Rice, especially considering Jarrett was still on the board, but I think this is going to end up being a great, great selection by the Vikes.

As down as I am on the squad this year, I am excited for next year. If they can take their lumps this year without getting completely discouraged, we may have something to cheer about next year in Vikings territory.

 
I know a lot of Vikings fans were scratching their heads over the drafting of Rice, especially considering Jarrett was still on the board, but I think this is going to end up being a great, great selection by the Vikes.As down as I am on the squad this year, I am excited for next year. If they can take their lumps this year without getting completely discouraged, we may have something to cheer about next year in Vikings territory.
paid off today.... didn't see the game but from the game thread it sounds like he had a sweet game
 
I know a lot of Vikings fans were scratching their heads over the drafting of Rice, especially considering Jarrett was still on the board, but I think this is going to end up being a great, great selection by the Vikes.As down as I am on the squad this year, I am excited for next year. If they can take their lumps this year without getting completely discouraged, we may have something to cheer about next year in Vikings territory.
paid off today.... didn't see the game but from the game thread it sounds like he had a sweet game
Either he was great or Bush was that badLets see what happens next week. If I had a spot (Curry and Jennings on my bench) i would take a flyer on him
 
he looked sharp but i think all of his catches came against Packers nickel back Jarrett Bush who has struggled quite a bit so far this season.

his TD catch was pretty nice.

 
Sigmund Bloom said:
mr. furley said:
his TD catch was pretty nice.
:thumbup: Same as Bowe, showing that "my ball" mentality.
I caught the highlight of that grab and although somebody was playing it down as a garbage time TD in Bobby Wade thread, I thought it was an awesome grab, great body control. I saw a great response to that comment about it being a "garbage time" TD.. This poster in response was that he loved the fact that the kid didn't make a show about his first TD, just handed the ball to the official and ran to his special teams spot to help try to recover the onside kick.
 
As a Packer fan I am enjoying the ride, but know in the back of my mind how tough the Vikings offense is going to be in a few years.

 
I know a lot of Vikings fans were scratching their heads over the drafting of Rice, especially considering Jarrett was still on the board, but I think this is going to end up being a great, great selection by the Vikes.As down as I am on the squad this year, I am excited for next year. If they can take their lumps this year without getting completely discouraged, we may have something to cheer about next year in Vikings territory.
Hell... I was scratching my head when the Dolphins picked Ginn with Rice still on the board.
 
I know a lot of Vikings fans were scratching their heads over the drafting of Rice, especially considering Jarrett was still on the board, but I think this is going to end up being a great, great selection by the Vikes.As down as I am on the squad this year, I am excited for next year. If they can take their lumps this year without getting completely discouraged, we may have something to cheer about next year in Vikings territory.
Hell... I was scratching my head when the Dolphins picked Ginn with Rice still on the board.
Zero chance Rice was going at #9 overall and only slightly better chance than that that he'd go ahead of Ginn.
 
I know a lot of Vikings fans were scratching their heads over the drafting of Rice, especially considering Jarrett was still on the board, but I think this is going to end up being a great, great selection by the Vikes.As down as I am on the squad this year, I am excited for next year. If they can take their lumps this year without getting completely discouraged, we may have something to cheer about next year in Vikings territory.
Hell... I was scratching my head when the Dolphins picked Ginn with Rice still on the board.
Zero chance Rice was going at #9 overall and only slightly better chance than that that he'd go ahead of Ginn.
Most people probably said zero change that Ginn goes at #9 overall too.
 
Sigmund Bloom said:
mr. furley said:
his TD catch was pretty nice.
:excited: Same as Bowe, showing that "my ball" mentality.
I caught the highlight of that grab and although somebody was playing it down as a garbage time TD in Bobby Wade thread, I thought it was an awesome grab, great body control. I saw a great response to that comment about it being a "garbage time" TD.. This poster in response was that he loved the fact that the kid didn't make a show about his first TD, just handed the ball to the official and ran to his special teams spot to help try to recover the onside kick.
iirc, he turned, jogged to the endline and spiked the ball off the wall. :unsure:
 
Sigmund Bloom said:
mr. furley said:
his TD catch was pretty nice.
:excited: Same as Bowe, showing that "my ball" mentality.
I caught the highlight of that grab and although somebody was playing it down as a garbage time TD in Bobby Wade thread, I thought it was an awesome grab, great body control. I saw a great response to that comment about it being a "garbage time" TD.. This poster in response was that he loved the fact that the kid didn't make a show about his first TD, just handed the ball to the official and ran to his special teams spot to help try to recover the onside kick.
No to nit-pick but if I remember him throwing the ball against the back wall almost hitting a photographer.
 

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