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Sig and Cecil draft review UPDATED to include all NFL teams (1 Viewer)

Bracie Smathers

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Always look forward to Lammey and Bloom's divisional draft recaps to get that instant reaction,

Here ya go, all divisional draft recaps starting with the four AFC divisions:

2013 Volume#36a - 2013 AFC West NFL Draft RECAP (#1832))
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom break down all the picks from the 2013 NFL Draft, plus go over undrafted free agents. Topics Include - the Raiders get their QB of the future in Tyler Wilson, did the Chargers do enough to help their talent poor team, are the Chiefs in position to contend for the playoffs, how the Broncos replaced Elvis Dumervil, plus more!

Apr 29 2013
2013 Volume#39a - 2013 AFC North NFL Draft RECAP (#1835)
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom break down all the picks from the 2013 NFL Draft, plus go over undrafted free agents. Topics Include - did the Browns make the most of their picks, the Bengals shock some with TE Tyler Eifert in round one, is LeVeon Bell the answer for the Steelers at the RB position, why Ozzie Newsome crushed it in the draft, plus more!3


Apr 29 2013

2013 Volume#37a - 2013 AFC East NFL Draft RECAP (#1833)
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom break down all the picks from the 2013 NFL Draft, plus go over undrafted free agents. Topics Include - the Bills splash in adding offensive talent like E.J. Manuel and Robert Woods, how will Geno Smith handle the pressure in New York, why the Dolphins are a team on the rise, the Patriots move around in the draft, plus more!

Apr 29 2013
2013 Volume#38a - 2013 AFC South NFL Draft RECAP (#1834)
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom break down all the picks from the 2013 NFL Draft, plus go over undrafted free agents. Topics Include - a fresh start for Jacksonville, the Titans add another WR weapon in Justin Hunter, did the Colts improve their defense, why DeAndre Hopkins was the right pick for the Texans, plus more!

 
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If interested I'll track down and post last year's instant draft reviews.

Here is last year's (2012 NFL draft) draft review of the AFCE (American Football Conference East)

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=640656

I'll post the other draft reviews from last year as I find them so everyone can compare and contrast to this year's draft reviews.

Its interesting to hear what was said immediately after last year's draft to put this year's draft review into some sort of context.

 
Thanks Bracie!
You're very welcome Bloom.

You guys put time and effort into these podcasts that might slip-by many if they don't get horked and their is some interesting insights.

I can't say I'm an expert on draft prospects but I can give my thoughts on the Browns draft that go beyond what you've touched upon in the current podcast.

When Joe Banner was hired as the Browns CEO he was asked about his football philosophy and this is what he said:

More Banner

: Banner addressed a number of other topics during an hourlong interview at the combine with Cleveland area media.

• He said his football philosophy is "about preventing pressure on your quarterback and getting pressure on the opposing team's quarterback. If you can do that, you have a chance to win any game against any team."
At the time Banner was asked about his defensive philosophy the only established pass rusher on the Browns was DE Jabaal Sheard.

The club fired Shurmur and hired Chud and at that time the club said it was changing its defensive scheme from the 4-3 to a 3-4 base. Joe Banner was asked why he sought to change the Browns defensive scheme and this is what he said:

Why change the defense?

: “I think we felt like the defense wasn't good enough to be very direct about it. If you went into some of the more sophisticated breakdowns of the defense this year, and by that I mean some of these systems that take out certain plays and that truly measure your success at crucial times in crucial situations, and so on and so forth, we were ranked 20 or lower in most of those categories. So, I think that, combined with the belief that we wanted to have a more aggressive, attacking defense, because we want to bring in more aggressive-minded players, we want to be risk-takers, we want to be attacking, we want the other team to be on the defensive. It doesn't mean it was wrong, but that wasn't the scheme we were running, so this felt like it fit more the type of players we want to bring in and the mindset we want to create. The way we want our opponents to perceive us. We want them to be worried about where we're kind of coming from and what's going to happen, what are we going to do next.”
Joe has been very, open, honest, and direct about wanting a more aggressive and attacking style of defense.

Chud hired Ray Horton as his Defensive Coordinator and this what Chud said about Horton's defense.

One thing is for sure: Horton's defenses will blitz, much like LeBeau's in Pittsburgh.

"His pressure packages are outstanding," said Chudzinski. "He brings 'em from all over the place, different guys, but he's still sound in his schemes
Others have described the same thing as to what Horton will do defensively.

Horton's former GM in Arizon, Steve Kiem, said to expect this from Horton's defense in Cleveland.

Keim gave Horton a glowing recommendation.

“Their defense is going to play fast,” Keim said. “It’s going to be aggressive. He has a great scheme. I think he would be the first to tell you he learned a lot from **** LeBeau, but Ray’s ability to put players in position (is excellent).

“I think a quality coach is able to cater to a player’s strengths, be able to hide some of their limitations but at the same time be able to get some success out of a guy where maybe some others threw him to the side, and Ray was able to do that with several of our players.”
That was when the only established pass rusher was Jabaal Sheard.

You know what the Browns have done since the defensive scheme was changed over and Horton was hired to install his aggressive-attacking style of defense, Cleveland signed OLB/DE pass rusher Paul Kruger and D-Lineman Desmond Bryant and OLB/DE pass rusher Quentin Groves and then drafted OLB/DE pass rusher Bakevious Mingo in the first round.

It wasn't just open and honest and direct talk by Banner. He backed up his talk with his head coaching hire and changing over defensive schemes and hiring Ray Horton as the DC and the free agent signings and the top-six pick in the NFL draft,

To put what they have done using a term that you like, CLARITY and I'd add momentum because the club went from only having one pass rusher to having four. Clarity and momentum because it wasn't just a scheme change, it wasn't just a coaching change, it wasn't just signing one free agent, it was more than just taking Mingo with the first pick, it was all of that in sequence and building upon each other, clarity with momentum.

I would anticipate Banner and Chudzinski and Horton will definitely have an attacking-aggressive defense on the field next fall.

Just commenting on the abilities of Barkevious Mingo. The Browns really haven't had an edge pass rusher. Courteny Brown was overused and wore down with injuries or he had a chance. Mingo will be part of a rotation so he won't be overused. He'll come in fresh and he will apply edge pressure.

With an aggessive-attacking defensive scheme you do-not use a top-six pick on a cornerback especially when you have a soid proven CB like Joe Haden starting on the other side of the field. Add Joe Haden was the seventh pick in the first round of the draft a couple of years ago. No NFL team has TWO top-seven picks starting at CB that they drafted. Taking a CB like Dee Milliner would have been a waste no matter what scheme would have been using let alone the sort of defense that Horton will run but no way was Milliner the pick when a guy like Mingo was sitting there. The Browns wasted no time and nearly ran up to the podium when they were on the clock in the first round.

Mingo was their guy all along and it fit in with the clarity and momentum of what Banner has said and done since he was hired starting with his first statement about his football philosophy of wanting to put pressure on opposing quarterbacks.

 
The NFC divisions have been added:

Apr 30 2013
2013 Volume#43a - 2013 NFC North NFL Draft RECAP (#1839)
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom break down all the picks from the 2013 NFL Draft, plus go over undrafted free agents. Topics Include - the Bears have a great draft, how do the Packers fit both Eddie Lacy and Jonathan Franklin in the backfield, did the Vikings give up too much for WR Cordarrelle Patterson, are the Lions better after the draft, plus more!

Apr 30 2013
2013 Volume#42a - 2013 NFC South NFL Draft RECAP (#1838)
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom break down all the picks from the 2013 NFL Draft, plus go over undrafted free agents. Topics Include - the Panthers get a Star, the Saints add some WR talent, why did the Buccaneers take Mike Glennon, the Falcons move up to get Trufant, plus more!

Apr 30 2013
2013 Volume#41a - 2013 NFC East NFL Draft RECAP (#1837)
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom break down all the picks from the 2013 NFL Draft, plus go over undrafted free agents. Topics Include - the Cowboys struggle in the draft, why Matt Barkley fits with Chip Kelly in Philadelphia, how could Ryan Nassib develop behind Eli Manning, did the Redskins do enough to help their team, plus more!

Apr 30 2013
2013 Volume#40a - 2013 NFC West NFL Draft RECAP (#1836)
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom break down all the picks from the 2013 NFL Draft, plus go over undrafted free agents. Topics Include - the strong get stronger in Seattle, why Marcus Lattimore could pay off big time for the 49ers, the Rams add elite talent at the WR position, some strong picks for the Cardinals, plus more!

I'll try to track-down last year's 2012 NFC divisional draft recaps so everyone can compare and contrast last year's draft reviews with this year to put the reviews into a context.

 
The NFC divisions have been added:

Apr 30 2013

2013 Volume#43a - 2013 NFC North NFL Draft RECAP (#1839)

In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom break down all the picks from the 2013 NFL Draft, plus go over undrafted free agents. Topics Include - the Bears have a great draft, how do the Packers fit both Eddie Lacy and Jonathan Franklin in the backfield, did the Vikings give up too much for WR Cordarrelle Patterson, are the Lions better after the draft, plus more!

Apr 30 2013

2013 Volume#42a - 2013 NFC South NFL Draft RECAP (#1838)

In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom break down all the picks from the 2013 NFL Draft, plus go over undrafted free agents. Topics Include - the Panthers get a Star, the Saints add some WR talent, why did the Buccaneers take Mike Glennon, the Falcons move up to get Trufant, plus more!

Apr 30 2013

2013 Volume#41a - 2013 NFC East NFL Draft RECAP (#1837)

In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom break down all the picks from the 2013 NFL Draft, plus go over undrafted free agents. Topics Include - the Cowboys struggle in the draft, why Matt Barkley fits with Chip Kelly in Philadelphia, how could Ryan Nassib develop behind Eli Manning, did the Redskins do enough to help their team, plus more!

Apr 30 2013

2013 Volume#40a - 2013 NFC West NFL Draft RECAP (#1836)

In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom break down all the picks from the 2013 NFL Draft, plus go over undrafted free agents. Topics Include - the strong get stronger in Seattle, why Marcus Lattimore could pay off big time for the 49ers, the Rams add elite talent at the WR position, some strong picks for the Cardinals, plus more!

I'll try to track-down last year's 2012 NFC divisional draft recaps so everyone can compare and contrast last year's draft reviews with this year to put the reviews into a context.
You seem to be Sig and Cecils biggest fan. Do you work for them or appreciate their work so much you do this for them? Just curious of the motivation.

 
Last year's 2012 NFCW draft recap to compare and contrast with this year's NFCW draft recap:

National Football Conference WEST 2012 draft recap

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=640739

NFCS the National Football Conference SOUTH 2012 draft recap

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=640736

NFCN 2012 draft recap

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=640658

NFCE 2012 draft recap

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=640655

 
The NFC divisions have been added:

Apr 30 2013

2013 Volume#43a - 2013 NFC North NFL Draft RECAP (#1839)

In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom break down all the picks from the 2013 NFL Draft, plus go over undrafted free agents. Topics Include - the Bears have a great draft, how do the Packers fit both Eddie Lacy and Jonathan Franklin in the backfield, did the Vikings give up too much for WR Cordarrelle Patterson, are the Lions better after the draft, plus more!

Apr 30 2013

2013 Volume#42a - 2013 NFC South NFL Draft RECAP (#1838)

In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom break down all the picks from the 2013 NFL Draft, plus go over undrafted free agents. Topics Include - the Panthers get a Star, the Saints add some WR talent, why did the Buccaneers take Mike Glennon, the Falcons move up to get Trufant, plus more!

Apr 30 2013

2013 Volume#41a - 2013 NFC East NFL Draft RECAP (#1837)

In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom break down all the picks from the 2013 NFL Draft, plus go over undrafted free agents. Topics Include - the Cowboys struggle in the draft, why Matt Barkley fits with Chip Kelly in Philadelphia, how could Ryan Nassib develop behind Eli Manning, did the Redskins do enough to help their team, plus more!

Apr 30 2013

2013 Volume#40a - 2013 NFC West NFL Draft RECAP (#1836)

In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom break down all the picks from the 2013 NFL Draft, plus go over undrafted free agents. Topics Include - the strong get stronger in Seattle, why Marcus Lattimore could pay off big time for the 49ers, the Rams add elite talent at the WR position, some strong picks for the Cardinals, plus more!

I'll try to track-down last year's 2012 NFC divisional draft recaps so everyone can compare and contrast last year's draft reviews with this year to put the reviews into a context.
You seem to be Sig and Cecils biggest fan. Do you work for them or appreciate their work so much you do this for them? Just curious of the motivation.
I think it is not only interesting to keep track of the information and analysis leading up to NFL drafts but its also interesting to keep track of how drafts are analyzed right after the draft and then a few months later until the drafted players are all out of the league because drafts change over time.

So much time and effort is put into trying to figure out prospects in the fall and in the bowl games and then at the Combine and it takes on a whole life of its own before the draft.

By the time the draft arrives it is exciting but after three days and seven rounds people get burned out and become comotose. By the time they wake up they realize the draft had come and gone by far too quickly and they try to scramble to figure out each team's draft and sort through what happened with prospects that caught their eye. The post-draft part of the draft has been overlooked and undervalued but it shouldn't be IMHO because the way drafts are instantly evaluated can possibly provide hints into making better decisions in future drafts.

How? If we know how a player has performed a year later and look back at what was said immediately after the draft and take note of how players were evauated immediately after drafts and see patterns then those patterns can be applied to future drafts.

Since I find this interesting I'll turn the tables and question why you would post asking about my interest in the NFL draft since this is high caliber football discussion board and the post is spot-on with what most people discuss. In any event, basically that is why I am interested in all post-draft analysis. Per noting Sig and Cecil, since their recaps are out right now, their recaps are timely and easy to access and relevant so it makes sense to note the post-draft analysis given by Sig and Cecil.

Add their post-draft recaps haven't gotten much attention and I think its deserving of that alone but my interest is due to the thought of finding value from instant reactions/analysis of drafts. I think their are patterns to be discovered in post-draft analysis that could help uncover future successful draft prospects.

 

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