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I have no idea what Moats did to get himself buried behind Brown, and it's still very possible that he could assume Slaton's role Sunday. However, Brown won Kubiak's trust in the last couple of weeks because he's run hard and picked up blitzes. I am not happy about having to start Brown at RB2 because I think he sucks compared to Slaton, but my choices are suck and suckier.

 
The Houston Chronicle reports that Steve Slaton (neck) is not expected to play Sunday against Jacksonville.

Chris Brown will start, with Ryan Moats next in line for carries. Slaton has numbness in his arms related to a previously undisclosed injury. "It's something he has been dealing with for awhile but it's gotten worse in the last 24 hours," coach Gary Kubiak revealed. The Jaguars are No. 10 against the run. Expect a decidedly pass-first game plan Sunday from Houston. Dec. 4 - 1:35 pm et

Source: Houston Chronicle

 
The Houston Chronicle reports that Steve Slaton (neck) is not expected to play Sunday against Jacksonville.Chris Brown will start, with Ryan Moats next in line for carries. Slaton has numbness in his arms related to a previously undisclosed injury. "It's something he has been dealing with for awhile but it's gotten worse in the last 24 hours," coach Gary Kubiak revealed. The Jaguars are No. 10 against the run. Expect a decidedly pass-first game plan Sunday from Houston. Dec. 4 - 1:35 pm etSource: Houston Chronicle
welcome to the opening post of this thread :shrug:
 
Is Chris Brown really that bad? If this injury persists for Slaton, Brown's got a nice matchup against the Rams come fantasy playoff time.

 
Oscar said:
Is Chris Brown really that bad? If this injury persists for Slaton, Brown's got a nice matchup against the Rams come fantasy playoff time.
Chris Brown is a big brown bag of meh. He could luck into a goal line TD or two but I don't expect much out of him this weekend. Slaton is far more explosive and easily the best receiving back on the team, which is where I've been getting most of my production from him in my ppr league.
 
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Oscar said:
Is Chris Brown really that bad? If this injury persists for Slaton, Brown's got a nice matchup against the Rams come fantasy playoff time.
Chris Brown is a big brown bag of meh. He could luck into a goal line TD or two but I don't expect much out of him this weekend. Slaton is far more explosive and easily the best receiving back on the team, which is where I've been getting most of my production from him in my ppr league.
Player X has gone for 131-437-3 (3.3 ypc)Player Y has gone for 65-234-2 (3.6 ypc)Player X = Slaton, Player Y Brown. Slaton's explosiveness is overblown. Yes, in space he's quick and he's a good receiver but he's a RB and as a RB he's not more explosive.
 
You must have missed the part where I specifically referred to his value in ppr leagues. What is Brown's yards per reception compared to Steve Slaton's?

Really, Steve Slaton is so much better than Brown that it's not even worth arguing about on the internet.

 
You must have missed the part where I specifically referred to his value in ppr leagues. What is Brown's yards per reception compared to Steve Slaton's?Really, Steve Slaton is so much better than Brown that it's not even worth arguing about on the internet.
As a receiver no doubt he's better. Brown is not a good Rb and neither is Slaton.
 
Oscar said:
Is Chris Brown really that bad? If this injury persists for Slaton, Brown's got a nice matchup against the Rams come fantasy playoff time.
Chris Brown is a big brown bag of meh. He could luck into a goal line TD or two but I don't expect much out of him this weekend. Slaton is far more explosive and easily the best receiving back on the team, which is where I've been getting most of my production from him in my ppr league.
Player X has gone for 131-437-3 (3.3 ypc)Player Y has gone for 65-234-2 (3.6 ypc)Player X = Slaton, Player Y Brown. Slaton's explosiveness is overblown. Yes, in space he's quick and he's a good receiver but he's a RB and as a RB he's not more explosive.
Was the one blank line in between supposed to be the "suspense"? :thumbup:
 
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Oscar said:
Is Chris Brown really that bad? If this injury persists for Slaton, Brown's got a nice matchup against the Rams come fantasy playoff time.
Chris Brown is a big brown bag of meh. He could luck into a goal line TD or two but I don't expect much out of him this weekend. Slaton is far more explosive and easily the best receiving back on the team, which is where I've been getting most of my production from him in my ppr league.
Player X has gone for 131-437-3 (3.3 ypc)Player Y has gone for 65-234-2 (3.6 ypc)Player X = Slaton, Player Y Brown. Slaton's explosiveness is overblown. Yes, in space he's quick and he's a good receiver but he's a RB and as a RB he's not more explosive.
Was the one blank line in between supposed to be the "suspense"? :thumbup:
LOL, drama is not my thing :shrug:
 
With HOU hitting the road to take on a very stout run D in JAX, as tempted as I am to spot start Brown, this doesn't seem like a matchup that he can really shine in.

 
Well, you grab the guy just to prevent somebody else from using him at the very least. Especially if this week's opponent is the one with Steve Slaton which is my case! :banned:

Wk 13 Matchup

 
Well, you grab the guy just to prevent somebody else from using him at the very least. Especially if this week's opponent is the one with Steve Slaton which is my case! :banned:

Wk 13 Matchup
you're starting Burleson/Brown over Austin? not sure i would be doing that ... although claiming him so your opponent doesn't get him is excellent waiver wire defense
 
Is Arian Foster completely irrelevant at this point? I thought they promoted him from the practice squad a few weeks ago to give him some playing time. Maybe he sees the field this week?

 
Is Arian Foster completely irrelevant at this point? I thought they promoted him from the practice squad a few weeks ago to give him some playing time. Maybe he sees the field this week?
If Slaton is inactive, it certainly is possible he sees a carry or two but I wouldn't call him fantasy relevant for this season...especially since it would be expected that if Slaton misses this game that he would likely be back the following week.
 
Is Arian Foster completely irrelevant at this point? I thought they promoted him from the practice squad a few weeks ago to give him some playing time. Maybe he sees the field this week?
If Slaton is inactive, it certainly is possible he sees a carry or two but I wouldn't call him fantasy relevant for this season...especially since it would be expected that if Slaton misses this game that he would likely be back the following week.
Agreed, not fantasy relevant right away. And I'm not looking at him as a lineup possibility this week. I have him on a couple deep dynasty rosters and I just wondered if he might get a little action so I could have a look see. ;)
 
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Is Arian Foster completely irrelevant at this point? I thought they promoted him from the practice squad a few weeks ago to give him some playing time. Maybe he sees the field this week?
If Slaton is inactive, it certainly is possible he sees a carry or two but I wouldn't call him fantasy relevant for this season...especially since it would be expected that if Slaton misses this game that he would likely be back the following week.
What about Moats?
 
(on if RB Steve Slaton's injury situation is an issue for the team) "Oh, it is. It's an issue. It's something that's been bothering him, and obviously we've been trying to work him through it. It seems to have gotten a little worse here in the course of the last 24 hours, and if it's bad and he can't go, then (RB) Ryan (Moats) picks up his load. So we'll see, but he was not able to work today."

(on how he would term RB Steve Slaton's injury) "You know what, he's just had an issue he's got in his neck, getting some numbness and some stuff going on, so it's a big concern right now, like I said. I did not want him to take reps away from a guy like (RB) Ryan (Moats) who might be playing today."

(on whether RB Steve Slaton's injury is new) "No, it's something that's been bothering him, but it just kind of got a little worse in the last couple of days."

(on if RB Steve Slaton's "numbness" is concerning) "Yeah, obviously, if Steve tells you that he's getting some numbness and stuff and trying to hang onto the ball, trying to do the things he's got to do protecting the quarterback. If he can't do his job, (RB) Ryan (Moats) will do fine."

(on if RB Chris Brown would start if RB Steve Slaton can't play on Sunday) "Yeah, no doubt. Yeah."

(on RB Chris Brown's performance recently) "Well, he's been very good the last few weeks. He's been excellent in pass protection. He's a veteran. I've been real impressed with the way he's come back from the bye week and the way he's played for us, so he'll be big in the game."

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=5884

 
Is Arian Foster completely irrelevant at this point? I thought they promoted him from the practice squad a few weeks ago to give him some playing time. Maybe he sees the field this week?
If Slaton is inactive, it certainly is possible he sees a carry or two but I wouldn't call him fantasy relevant for this season...especially since it would be expected that if Slaton misses this game that he would likely be back the following week.
What about Moats?
No question Moats plays, but good luck trying to predict how many carries he will get since after his big game a month ago he only played the following week and hasn't seen any action in subsequent weeks (possibly being benched for his fumble lost in that game?). He'll see action this week if Slaton is out, but he probably won't see nearly as much action as Brown I would expect.
 
Is Chris Brown really that bad? If this injury persists for Slaton, Brown's got a nice matchup against the Rams come fantasy playoff time.
Chris Brown is a big brown bag of meh. He could luck into a goal line TD or two but I don't expect much out of him this weekend. Slaton is far more explosive and easily the best receiving back on the team, which is where I've been getting most of my production from him in my ppr league.
HOU will be knockin on the door of JAX endzone all day. Brown will get his chances at TDs.
 
Is Chris Brown really that bad? If this injury persists for Slaton, Brown's got a nice matchup against the Rams come fantasy playoff time.
Chris Brown is a big brown bag of meh. He could luck into a goal line TD or two but I don't expect much out of him this weekend. Slaton is far more explosive and easily the best receiving back on the team, which is where I've been getting most of my production from him in my ppr league.
Player X has gone for 131-437-3 (3.3 ypc)Player Y has gone for 65-234-2 (3.6 ypc)Player X = Slaton, Player Y Brown. Slaton's explosiveness is overblown. Yes, in space he's quick and he's a good receiver but he's a RB and as a RB he's not more explosive.
Don't forget Slaton's receiver numbers where he brings most of his fantasy production.
 
Lobary said:
(on if RB Steve Slaton's injury situation is an issue for the team) "Oh, it is. It's an issue. It's something that's been bothering him, and obviously we've been trying to work him through it. It seems to have gotten a little worse here in the course of the last 24 hours, and if it's bad and he can't go, then (RB) Ryan (Moats) picks up his load. So we'll see, but he was not able to work today."

(on how he would term RB Steve Slaton's injury) "You know what, he's just had an issue he's got in his neck, getting some numbness and some stuff going on, so it's a big concern right now, like I said. I did not want him to take reps away from a guy like (RB) Ryan (Moats) who might be playing today."

(on whether RB Steve Slaton's injury is new) "No, it's something that's been bothering him, but it just kind of got a little worse in the last couple of days."

(on if RB Steve Slaton's "numbness" is concerning) "Yeah, obviously, if Steve tells you that he's getting some numbness and stuff and trying to hang onto the ball, trying to do the things he's got to do protecting the quarterback. If he can't do his job, (RB) Ryan (Moats) will do fine."

(on if RB Chris Brown would start if RB Steve Slaton can't play on Sunday) "Yeah, no doubt. Yeah."

(on RB Chris Brown's performance recently) "Well, he's been very good the last few weeks. He's been excellent in pass protection. He's a veteran. I've been real impressed with the way he's come back from the bye week and the way he's played for us, so he'll be big in the game."

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=5884
This cinches it for me: I am starting Brown.
 
I have no idea what Moats did to get himself buried behind Brown
Didn't Moats fumble a few weeks ago - the same issue that gave him the opportunity while Slaton was benched.
Fumbled in the redzone against Indy in a game they lost by 3. Very costly fumble and may have been the difference in the game...
Brown probably had the most costly fumble of all of them this year. He fumbled on the goal line with 2 minutes left and HOU lost to JAC by a TD
 
Lobary said:
(on if RB Steve Slaton's "numbness" is concerning) "Yeah, obviously, if Steve tells you that he's getting some numbness and stuff and trying to hang onto the ball, trying to do the things he's got to do protecting the quarterback. If he can't do his job, (RB) Ryan (Moats) will do fine."
I don't get it exactly. Slaton has numbness in the tip of his thumb and I'm unclear on how the tip of the thumb would affect his performance. Kubiak has been critical of Slaton all season for ball security reasons. Is Kubiak just getting on Slaton for the 20th time about ball security, or is there some worry about the shoulder (and not the thumb)?
 
Lobary said:
(on if RB Steve Slaton's "numbness" is concerning) "Yeah, obviously, if Steve tells you that he's getting some numbness and stuff and trying to hang onto the ball, trying to do the things he's got to do protecting the quarterback. If he can't do his job, (RB) Ryan (Moats) will do fine."
I don't get it exactly. Slaton has numbness in the tip of his thumb and I'm unclear on how the tip of the thumb would affect his performance. Kubiak has been critical of Slaton all season for ball security reasons. Is Kubiak just getting on Slaton for the 20th time about ball security, or is there some worry about the shoulder (and not the thumb)?
:scared: I imagine they are more concerned about the cause of the numbness in his thumb, not the actual numb thumb itself.
 
Lobary said:
(on if RB Steve Slaton's "numbness" is concerning) "Yeah, obviously, if Steve tells you that he's getting some numbness and stuff and trying to hang onto the ball, trying to do the things he's got to do protecting the quarterback. If he can't do his job, (RB) Ryan (Moats) will do fine."
I don't get it exactly. Slaton has numbness in the tip of his thumb and I'm unclear on how the tip of the thumb would affect his performance. Kubiak has been critical of Slaton all season for ball security reasons. Is Kubiak just getting on Slaton for the 20th time about ball security, or is there some worry about the shoulder (and not the thumb)?
Kubiak and Slaton both said that his nagging shoulder injury worsened this week. From what I've read it seems that Slaton suffered a stinger earlier this season and the numbness he's experiencing now could be an indication of a more significant injury. They aren't sitting him out to punish him but to protect his health. He needs some rest to let the nerve injury heal.
 
Lobary said:
(on if RB Steve Slaton's "numbness" is concerning) "Yeah, obviously, if Steve tells you that he's getting some numbness and stuff and trying to hang onto the ball, trying to do the things he's got to do protecting the quarterback. If he can't do his job, (RB) Ryan (Moats) will do fine."
I don't get it exactly. Slaton has numbness in the tip of his thumb and I'm unclear on how the tip of the thumb would affect his performance. Kubiak has been critical of Slaton all season for ball security reasons. Is Kubiak just getting on Slaton for the 20th time about ball security, or is there some worry about the shoulder (and not the thumb)?
Kubiak and Slaton both said that his nagging shoulder injury worsened this week. From what I've read it seems that Slaton suffered a stinger earlier this season and the numbness he's experiencing now could be an indication of a more significant injury. They aren't sitting him out to punish him but to protect his health. He needs some rest to let the nerve injury heal.
All the following in my opinion, speculative and based on personal experience.I think Slaton may be suffering from a pinched nerve in his neck, which often is associated with shoulder pain and finger numbness. Probably the C5, C6, C7 vertebrae. The nerve from the neck extending down to the fingers is probably inflamed at the exit point between the vertbrae, which is painful. Very painful. There is very little that can be done to make the pain go away outside of pain medication (pretty heavy stuff) and/or a cortizone shot right into the spine (I have yet to do this but will the next time I tweak my neck). The recovery time for this injury is at least 4 weeks and in my case, has been more like 6 to 8 weeks. I injured my neck slipping on some stairs more than two years ago. Now I just live with it and am careful dong anything strenuous. For those of us that live with the inconvenience, the options to "cure" the problem are very limited, unattractive and often unsuccessful.I have permanent numbness in my pointing finger on my right (dominant) hand and minor numbness in middle finger. But I write, type, dribble a basketball, throw a football, etc. without any problem, but the tingling sensation inmy fingers was odd at first. I don't use this finger on my touchscreen iPhone. Feels too strange. But I'm fine with it. Of course I'm not a runningback in the NFL. Now that I think of it, I recently dropped my laptop (broke it) when I was carrying it with my right hand. I didn't feel a good grip and then the laptop was out of my hand. Wonder if Slaton's drops relate to similar grip-type issues.Take it for what it's worth. Would like to know original injury date.
 
If it is only a pinched nerve, he should get a couple chiropractic adjustments and he should be ready to go. Now if it is a shoulder issue, then its a different story.

 
If it is only a pinched nerve, he should get a couple chiropractic adjustments and he should be ready to go. Now if it is a shoulder issue, then its a different story.
I'll take "Things Only a Chiropractor Would Say" for $600 Alex.
I am not a chiropractor. I have had a pinched nerve in the neck. You basically have two choices: go to a doctor who will give you drugs to temporarily mask the pain but not solve the problem. The other choice is an adjustment. For pinched nerves, I'll take tha adjustment anyday. I'm guessing you've never had an adjustment, making you a real authority on the subject.
 
If it is only a pinched nerve, he should get a couple chiropractic adjustments and he should be ready to go. Now if it is a shoulder issue, then its a different story.
I'll take "Things Only a Chiropractor Would Say" for $600 Alex.
I am not a chiropractor. I have had a pinched nerve in the neck. You basically have two choices: go to a doctor who will give you drugs to temporarily mask the pain but not solve the problem. The other choice is an adjustment. For pinched nerves, I'll take tha adjustment anyday. I'm guessing you've never had an adjustment, making you a real authority on the subject.
I'm just messin' with you a bit. But yes, I have. Bad experience. Felt like a total sham, similar to buying a used car. Maybe there are better but I had enough doctors look at my MRI and tell me it won't make a difference and to save my money (chiropractors are bank and not covered by most health plans).
 
If it is only a pinched nerve, he should get a couple chiropractic adjustments and he should be ready to go. Now if it is a shoulder issue, then its a different story.
I'll take "Things Only a Chiropractor Would Say" for $600 Alex.
I am not a chiropractor. I have had a pinched nerve in the neck. You basically have two choices: go to a doctor who will give you drugs to temporarily mask the pain but not solve the problem. The other choice is an adjustment. For pinched nerves, I'll take tha adjustment anyday. I'm guessing you've never had an adjustment, making you a real authority on the subject.
They don't just shut a starting running back down for a "pinched nerve". There has to some evidence of nerve damage that is going to limit his career path. Dynasty Slaton owners have to be nervous with good reason. Same deal happened to Priest Holmes before he finally listened to the docs and shut it down for his career.
 
If it is only a pinched nerve, he should get a couple chiropractic adjustments and he should be ready to go. Now if it is a shoulder issue, then its a different story.
I'll take "Things Only a Chiropractor Would Say" for $600 Alex.
I am not a chiropractor. I have had a pinched nerve in the neck. You basically have two choices: go to a doctor who will give you drugs to temporarily mask the pain but not solve the problem. The other choice is an adjustment. For pinched nerves, I'll take tha adjustment anyday. I'm guessing you've never had an adjustment, making you a real authority on the subject.
They don't just shut a starting running back down for a "pinched nerve". There has to some evidence of nerve damage that is going to limit his career path. Dynasty Slaton owners have to be nervous with good reason. Same deal happened to Priest Holmes before he finally listened to the docs and shut it down for his career.
An MRI can expose a lot of things, including a narrow spinal canal or a degenerative disc, both of which I'd imagine could be trouble for any football player. Do we know if he got an MRI?
 
Kubiak and Slaton both said that his nagging shoulder injury worsened this week. From what I've read it seems that Slaton suffered a stinger earlier this season and the numbness he's experiencing now could be an indication of a more significant injury. They aren't sitting him out to punish him but to protect his health. He needs some rest to let the nerve injury heal.
Thank you.
 
Lobary said:
(on if RB Steve Slaton's injury situation is an issue for the team) "Oh, it is. It's an issue. It's something that's been bothering him, and obviously we've been trying to work him through it. It seems to have gotten a little worse here in the course of the last 24 hours, and if it's bad and he can't go, then (RB) Ryan (Moats) picks up his load. So we'll see, but he was not able to work today."

(on how he would term RB Steve Slaton's injury) "You know what, he's just had an issue he's got in his neck, getting some numbness and some stuff going on, so it's a big concern right now, like I said. I did not want him to take reps away from a guy like (RB) Ryan (Moats) who might be playing today."

(on whether RB Steve Slaton's injury is new) "No, it's something that's been bothering him, but it just kind of got a little worse in the last couple of days."

(on if RB Steve Slaton's "numbness" is concerning) "Yeah, obviously, if Steve tells you that he's getting some numbness and stuff and trying to hang onto the ball, trying to do the things he's got to do protecting the quarterback. If he can't do his job, (RB) Ryan (Moats) will do fine."

(on if RB Chris Brown would start if RB Steve Slaton can't play on Sunday) "Yeah, no doubt. Yeah."

(on RB Chris Brown's performance recently) "Well, he's been very good the last few weeks. He's been excellent in pass protection. He's a veteran. I've been real impressed with the way he's come back from the bye week and the way he's played for us, so he'll be big in the game."

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=5884
There is alot more mention here of Ryan Moats than I would like to see. It sounds pretty clear - "If he can't go, Ryan picks up his load" and "If he can't do his job, Ryan will do fine". I don't see how we can safely start him and assume he gets more carries than normal.
 

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