SlatonShare: Chris Brown to Get 10-12 Carries/Game? (1 Viewer)

[Devil in the Detail]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports...nt/6610955.html

 

[prgromek]

 

[dgreen]

The problem with these types of quotes is that there won't be 10-12 touches every game for that second RB. When coaches say things like this, it's reflecting their ideal scenario. Ideally, most teams would have a comfortable lead and end the game with a lot of successful running; they'd have 35+ touches for their RBs. So, if Brown gets 10-12 of those, so what? In most games, they won't be in a situation to get their RBs that many touches. If there are only 25 RB touches one week, Brown will not get 10-12 of those. He'll get maybe 5-6.

 

[Devil in the Detail]

The problem with these types of quotes is that there won't be 10-12 touches every game for that second RB. When coaches say things like this, it's reflecting their ideal scenario. Ideally, most teams would have a comfortable lead and end the game with a lot of successful running; they'd have 35+ touches for their RBs. So, if Brown gets 10-12 of those, so what? In most games, they won't be in a situation to get their RBs that many touches. If there are only 25 RB touches one week, Brown will not get 10-12 of those. He'll get maybe 5-6.

Why do you think that is the case that, if there are 25 carries, Brown gets 5 instead of 10? The coaches have consistently said that they want Brown to share the load and that they were surprised that Slaton held up as well as he did last year and want to make sure he doesn't get worn down, given his physical stature. Given that most RB platoons in the league are not somewhere around a 60-40 or 65-35 split, it is kind of hard for me to assume that HOU won't look like that, too, this season now that they have another legitimate complementary back in Brown and the coaches keep saying they will...

 

[Banger]

The problem with these types of quotes is that there won't be 10-12 touches every game for that second RB. When coaches say things like this, it's reflecting their ideal scenario. Ideally, most teams would have a comfortable lead and end the game with a lot of successful running; they'd have 35+ touches for their RBs. So, if Brown gets 10-12 of those, so what? In most games, they won't be in a situation to get their RBs that many touches. If there are only 25 RB touches one week, Brown will not get 10-12 of those. He'll get maybe 5-6.

either way it will likely result in Slaton getting a smaller % of the carries until Brown gets hurt. Maybe he gets hurt as quickly as Green did last year and Slaton will have the same value as last year. Slaton got 70% of all RB carries last year, largely because Green got hurt and it's clear that Kubiak is looking to cut that back. I know a lot of Slaton owners don't want to hear but this isn't a one off comment by Kubiak. He's been repeating since the beginning of the offseason, through training camp and now as the season opens. Don't be surprised when it happens.

 

[qimqam]

The problem with these types of quotes is that there won't be 10-12 touches every game for that second RB. When coaches say things like this, it's reflecting their ideal scenario. Ideally, most teams would have a comfortable lead and end the game with a lot of successful running; they'd have 35+ touches for their RBs. So, if Brown gets 10-12 of those, so what? In most games, they won't be in a situation to get their RBs that many touches. If there are only 25 RB touches one week, Brown will not get 10-12 of those. He'll get maybe 5-6.

Why do you think that is the case that, if there are 25 carries, Brown gets 5 instead of 10? The coaches have consistently said that they want Brown to share the load and that they were surprised that Slaton held up as well as he did last year and want to make sure he doesn't get worn down, given his physical stature. Given that most RB platoons in the league are not somewhere around a 60-40 or 65-35 split, it is kind of hard for me to assume that HOU won't look like that, too, this season now that they have another legitimate complementary back in Brown and the coaches keep saying they will...

10 cariies a game would be 160 for the season ... The last time Brown had that many carries was 2005 when he averaged 3.8 yds per carry. Over the last 3 years he has carried 143 times total or about 45 carries per season

 

[Banger]

The problem with these types of quotes is that there won't be 10-12 touches every game for that second RB. When coaches say things like this, it's reflecting their ideal scenario. Ideally, most teams would have a comfortable lead and end the game with a lot of successful running; they'd have 35+ touches for their RBs. So, if Brown gets 10-12 of those, so what? In most games, they won't be in a situation to get their RBs that many touches. If there are only 25 RB touches one week, Brown will not get 10-12 of those. He'll get maybe 5-6.

Why do you think that is the case that, if there are 25 carries, Brown gets 5 instead of 10? The coaches have consistently said that they want Brown to share the load and that they were surprised that Slaton held up as well as he did last year and want to make sure he doesn't get worn down, given his physical stature. Given that most RB platoons in the league are not somewhere around a 60-40 or 65-35 split, it is kind of hard for me to assume that HOU won't look like that, too, this season now that they have another legitimate complementary back in Brown and the coaches keep saying they will...

10 cariies a game would be 160 for the season ... The last time Brown had that many carries was 2005 when he averaged 3.8 yds per carry. Over the last 3 years he has carried 143 times total or about 45 carries per season

He played in 17 games over the last 3 years which equates to about 8.5 carries a game, slightly under what Kubiak is looking to give him.

 

[qimqam]

The problem with these types of quotes is that there won't be 10-12 touches every game for that second RB. When coaches say things like this, it's reflecting their ideal scenario. Ideally, most teams would have a comfortable lead and end the game with a lot of successful running; they'd have 35+ touches for their RBs. So, if Brown gets 10-12 of those, so what? In most games, they won't be in a situation to get their RBs that many touches. If there are only 25 RB touches one week, Brown will not get 10-12 of those. He'll get maybe 5-6.

Why do you think that is the case that, if there are 25 carries, Brown gets 5 instead of 10? The coaches have consistently said that they want Brown to share the load and that they were surprised that Slaton held up as well as he did last year and want to make sure he doesn't get worn down, given his physical stature. Given that most RB platoons in the league are not somewhere around a 60-40 or 65-35 split, it is kind of hard for me to assume that HOU won't look like that, too, this season now that they have another legitimate complementary back in Brown and the coaches keep saying they will...

10 cariies a game would be 160 for the season ... The last time Brown had that many carries was 2005 when he averaged 3.8 yds per carry. Over the last 3 years he has carried 143 times total or about 45 carries per season

He played in 17 games over the last 3 years which equates to about 8.5 carries a game, slightly under what Kubiak is looking to give him.

8.5 carries a game for 5.7 games per year ... I'm fine with that

 

[H.K.]

The problem with these types of quotes is that there won't be 10-12 touches every game for that second RB. When coaches say things like this, it's reflecting their ideal scenario. Ideally, most teams would have a comfortable lead and end the game with a lot of successful running; they'd have 35+ touches for their RBs. So, if Brown gets 10-12 of those, so what? In most games, they won't be in a situation to get their RBs that many touches. If there are only 25 RB touches one week, Brown will not get 10-12 of those. He'll get maybe 5-6.

either way it will likely result in Slaton getting a smaller % of the carries until Brown gets hurt. Maybe he gets hurt as quickly as Green did last year and Slaton will have the same value as last year. Slaton got 70% of all RB carries last year, largely because Green got hurt and it's clear that Kubiak is looking to cut that back. I know a lot of Slaton owners don't want to hear but this isn't a one off comment by Kubiak. He's been repeating since the beginning of the offseason, through training camp and now as the season opens. Don't be surprised when it happens.

Exactly, but it isn't just what Kubiak's been saying, it's also what he has done. The average game split last year was about 14 carries for Slaton and 9 for Green. This season it's Green out, Brown in. Rinse. Repeat.

 

[Johnny Ice]

The bottom line is Chris Brown will get hurt at some point. He is made of glass. Slaton owners have absolutely nothing to worry about. If you drafted him, roll with him without a second thought.

 

[dgreen]

My comment was more in regards to these types of quotes and not necessarily about Slaton/Brown. I think Jim Zorn would say, "We want to get Ladell Betts 10-12 touches per game." I think Norv Turner would say, "We want to get Darren Sproles 10-12 touches per game." I think Mike Smith would say, "We want to get Jerious Norwood 10-12 touches a game." I think Brad Childress would say, "We want to get Chester Taylor 10-12 touches a game." I don't think these quotes necessarily mean Portis, Tomlinson, Turner, and Peterson will lose many touches. I think they usually mean they'd like more total RB touches and those would go to the RB2, not the RB1.

Now, Slaton/Brown may be slightly different than those examples. But, if there were 25 RB touches, I'd be SHOCKED if Slaton only got 13 of those. Would Slaton get as high a % of those 25 touches as Portis, Tomlinson, Turner, and Peterson? No. But, I also don't see it being a true 50/50, or even 55/45, RBBC.

 

[dgreen]

The problem with these types of quotes is that there won't be 10-12 touches every game for that second RB. When coaches say things like this, it's reflecting their ideal scenario. Ideally, most teams would have a comfortable lead and end the game with a lot of successful running; they'd have 35+ touches for their RBs. So, if Brown gets 10-12 of those, so what? In most games, they won't be in a situation to get their RBs that many touches. If there are only 25 RB touches one week, Brown will not get 10-12 of those. He'll get maybe 5-6.

either way it will likely result in Slaton getting a smaller % of the carries until Brown gets hurt. Maybe he gets hurt as quickly as Green did last year and Slaton will have the same value as last year. Slaton got 70% of all RB carries last year, largely because Green got hurt and it's clear that Kubiak is looking to cut that back. I know a lot of Slaton owners don't want to hear but this isn't a one off comment by Kubiak. He's been repeating since the beginning of the offseason, through training camp and now as the season opens. Don't be surprised when it happens.

Exactly, but it isn't just what Kubiak's been saying, it's also what he has done. The average game split last year was about 14 carries for Slaton and 9 for Green. This season it's Green out, Brown in. Rinse. Repeat.

I see two assumptions being made here:1) Houston has as much confidence in Brown as they did Green.2) Slaton has given Houston no reason to increase that 14/9 split since the midpoint of last season.

 

[Ray_T]

The problem with these types of quotes is that there won't be 10-12 touches every game for that second RB. When coaches say things like this, it's reflecting their ideal scenario. Ideally, most teams would have a comfortable lead and end the game with a lot of successful running; they'd have 35+ touches for their RBs. So, if Brown gets 10-12 of those, so what? In most games, they won't be in a situation to get their RBs that many touches. If there are only 25 RB touches one week, Brown will not get 10-12 of those. He'll get maybe 5-6.

Why do you think that is the case that, if there are 25 carries, Brown gets 5 instead of 10? The coaches have consistently said that they want Brown to share the load and that they were surprised that Slaton held up as well as he did last year and want to make sure he doesn't get worn down, given his physical stature. Given that most RB platoons in the league are not somewhere around a 60-40 or 65-35 split, it is kind of hard for me to assume that HOU won't look like that, too, this season now that they have another legitimate complementary back in Brown and the coaches keep saying they will...

Every coach talks up the backup early in the season.the goal is to stop opposing defenses from keying on your starter early in the year.and someone earlier did say something very astute. 10-12 carries per game would be in ideal conditions. This means your team is winning and you run the ball two or three times on each set of downs.if the team falls behind, brown wont be getting much work at all because he isnt the receiver that Slaton is.having a pass catcher in the offense at RB makes all the difference in terms of opening up the passing game.dont worry about Slaton. he will be fine.

 

[msommer]

Gerat news for Slaton owners because

In the beginning 'he will stay fresh' but in reality it will be fewer games before Brown gets injured.

 

[gregjcross]

The problem with these types of quotes is that there won't be 10-12 touches every game for that second RB. When coaches say things like this, it's reflecting their ideal scenario. Ideally, most teams would have a comfortable lead and end the game with a lot of successful running; they'd have 35+ touches for their RBs. So, if Brown gets 10-12 of those, so what? In most games, they won't be in a situation to get their RBs that many touches. If there are only 25 RB touches one week, Brown will not get 10-12 of those. He'll get maybe 5-6.

Good post. And, even 5 or 6 is too many to expect. Coaches like to talk about dream scenarios when discussing carries, as in, we'lll be dominating the opponent physically. Then reality sets in and htey know the best player has to be on the field. That is Slaton. (I dont hold any HOU RBs in any league)

 

[H.K.]

Exactly, but it isn't just what Kubiak's been saying, it's also what he has done. The average game split last year was about 14 carries for Slaton and 9 for Green. This season it's Green out, Brown in. Rinse. Repeat.

I see two assumptions being made here:1) Houston has as much confidence in Brown as they did Green.

I can't quantify confidence but Brown is on the team, and Green isn't. Also, Brown has been declared the short distance/ GL RB this pre-season based on earning it. I have no idea how to put a confidence rating on those items.

2) Slaton has given Houston no reason to increase that 14/9 split since the midpoint of last season.

This has been discussed to death, but whenever Green returned from injury last season, Kubiak went right back to RBBC. Slaton would start and Green would share the work, not quite evenly, but it was a committee approach. Slaton played great when Green was out, Green would return and it was a shared load. Green would get hurt again, Slaton played great again. Then Green returned and it was a shared load again. It happened two or three times last year.Kubiak is running RBBC and there is no data, quotes, or actions to expect anything different this season. Go to the Slaton spotlight thread. Everything has played out exactly as expected up to this point.

 

[Jason Wood]

SIGH

Every coach in the league uses flippant comments like this. How many times have you heard an RB coach or OC, or even a head coach, say something like, "we want to run the ball 30-35 times a game." I'm sure you would Mr. Coach, but your team's defense and offensive makeup won't allow that. What's done is done. People have either drafted Slaton or decided to pass on him. We'll know whether Chris (snicker snicker) Brown was a real threat to his productivity soon enough.

 

[Banger]

The problem with these types of quotes is that there won't be 10-12 touches every game for that second RB. When coaches say things like this, it's reflecting their ideal scenario. Ideally, most teams would have a comfortable lead and end the game with a lot of successful running; they'd have 35+ touches for their RBs. So, if Brown gets 10-12 of those, so what? In most games, they won't be in a situation to get their RBs that many touches. If there are only 25 RB touches one week, Brown will not get 10-12 of those. He'll get maybe 5-6.

either way it will likely result in Slaton getting a smaller % of the carries until Brown gets hurt. Maybe he gets hurt as quickly as Green did last year and Slaton will have the same value as last year. Slaton got 70% of all RB carries last year, largely because Green got hurt and it's clear that Kubiak is looking to cut that back. I know a lot of Slaton owners don't want to hear but this isn't a one off comment by Kubiak. He's been repeating since the beginning of the offseason, through training camp and now as the season opens. Don't be surprised when it happens.

Exactly, but it isn't just what Kubiak's been saying, it's also what he has done. The average game split last year was about 14 carries for Slaton and 9 for Green. This season it's Green out, Brown in. Rinse. Repeat.

I see two assumptions being made here:1) Houston has as much confidence in Brown as they did Green.2) Slaton has given Houston no reason to increase that 14/9 split since the midpoint of last season.

well it is the coach that's quoted not some beat reporter giving an opinion. That being said, last year he got 70% of the carries and Kubiak obviously doesn't want to repeat that again. I wouldn't expect a 50-50 split but 60-40 sounds about right. Assuming the same number of carries for the offense that would likely result in about 230 carries from 268 and about 185 fewer rush yards.

 

[jon_mx]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports...nt/6610955.html

Coaches say all sorts of crap. But what really matters is which back is producing. If Slaton is a big threat evertime he touches the ball, he will get 90% of the carries. If Chris Brown gets first downs everytime he touches the ball, he will see a lot more carries. What it comes down to is the back who the coach has the most confidence in certain situations will be the one who gets the bulk of carries. Right now you stick with Slaton and hope he plays so well that Brown hardly sees the field.

 

[Todem]

How many friggin Slaton/Brown threads are we going to see around here.

It has been discussed ad nausem. Hit search and pull up all the oodles and oodles of Slaton threads.

And Slaton will finish a top 10 RB in PPR easy.

 

[H.K.]

How many friggin Slaton/Brown threads are we going to see around here.It has been discussed ad nausem. Hit search and pull up all the oodles and oodles of Slaton threads.

Agree

And Slaton will finish a top 10 RB in PPR easy.

...to disagree

 

[TheFanatic]

Slaton is not getting 20 carries a game. And I'm OK with that considering his catches. But the argument that Slaton is going to be limited is ludicrous.

 

[dgreen]

Exactly, but it isn't just what Kubiak's been saying, it's also what he has done. The average game split last year was about 14 carries for Slaton and 9 for Green. This season it's Green out, Brown in. Rinse. Repeat.

I see two assumptions being made here:1) Houston has as much confidence in Brown as they did Green.

I can't quantify confidence but Brown is on the team, and Green isn't. Also, Brown has been declared the short distance/ GL RB this pre-season based on earning it. I have no idea how to put a confidence rating on those items.

2) Slaton has given Houston no reason to increase that 14/9 split since the midpoint of last season.

This has been discussed to death, but whenever Green returned from injury last season, Kubiak went right back to RBBC. Slaton would start and Green would share the work, not quite evenly, but it was a committee approach. Slaton played great when Green was out, Green would return and it was a shared load. Green would get hurt again, Slaton played great again. Then Green returned and it was a shared load again. It happened two or three times last year.Kubiak is running RBBC and there is no data, quotes, or actions to expect anything different this season. Go to the Slaton spotlight thread. Everything has played out exactly as expected up to this point.

Right, it was RBBC when Green was there. But, guess who's no longer there? Green. You point out yourself that Slaton received the bulk of the load when Green wasn't there. Why didn't Kubiak just use someone else in the final 5 weeks the way he used Green before? If he's such a RBBC lover, why did he change that philosophy after Green was out?That's why I think it's important to know if Brown=Green or not. Last year, we were dealing with a rookie RB and a veteran RB who has proved his worth in the league. This year, we are dealing with a 2nd year RB who proved down the stretch last year that he can be productive with a larger load and a veteran RB who didn't play one play last year.As Jason said, we'll see. I just have a hard time seeing Slaton sitting too much for Brown.

 

[H.K.]

Right, it was RBBC when Green was there. But, guess who's no longer there? Green. You point out yourself that Slaton received the bulk of the load when Green wasn't there. Why didn't Kubiak just use someone else in the final 5 weeks the way he used Green before? If he's such a RBBC lover, why did he change that philosophy after Green was out?

Their pre-season depth chart had Green, Slaton, Brown, and Chris Taylor going into the year. Before going on IR Green played 8 games, Brown played 0, Taylor played 3. After Green went on IR was when Slaton went on his tear in weeks 12-17, where he received 85% of all RB touches. It really skewed his numbers because he only had 58% when Green played, and Green left two of those games early.

That's why I think it's important to know if Brown=Green or not. Last year, we were dealing with a rookie RB and a veteran RB who has proved his worth in the league. This year, we are dealing with a 2nd year RB who proved down the stretch last year that he can be productive with a larger load and a veteran RB who didn't play one play last year.As Jason said, we'll see. I just have a hard time seeing Slaton sitting too much for Brown.

Yep, we'll see.

 

[loose circuits]

Exactly, but it isn't just what Kubiak's been saying, it's also what he has done. The average game split last year was about 14 carries for Slaton and 9 for Green. This season it's Green out, Brown in. Rinse. Repeat.

I see two assumptions being made here:1) Houston has as much confidence in Brown as they did Green.

I can't quantify confidence but Brown is on the team, and Green isn't. Also, Brown has been declared the short distance/ GL RB this pre-season based on earning it. I have no idea how to put a confidence rating on those items.

2) Slaton has given Houston no reason to increase that 14/9 split since the midpoint of last season.

This has been discussed to death, but whenever Green returned from injury last season, Kubiak went right back to RBBC. Slaton would start and Green would share the work, not quite evenly, but it was a committee approach. Slaton played great when Green was out, Green would return and it was a shared load. Green would get hurt again, Slaton played great again. Then Green returned and it was a shared load again. It happened two or three times last year.Kubiak is running RBBC and there is no data, quotes, or actions to expect anything different this season. Go to the Slaton spotlight thread. Everything has played out exactly as expected up to this point.

Right, it was RBBC when Green was there. But, guess who's no longer there? Green. You point out yourself that Slaton received the bulk of the load when Green wasn't there. Why didn't Kubiak just use someone else in the final 5 weeks the way he used Green before? If he's such a RBBC lover, why did he change that philosophy after Green was out?That's why I think it's important to know if Brown=Green or not. Last year, we were dealing with a rookie RB and a veteran RB who has proved his worth in the league. This year, we are dealing with a 2nd year RB who proved down the stretch last year that he can be productive with a larger load and a veteran RB who didn't play one play last year.As Jason said, we'll see. I just have a hard time seeing Slaton sitting too much for Brown.

do you think it's possible that Slaton got all the carries because they had guys they signed off the street as the back-ups?

 

[benm3218]

I love people stick their head in the sand and refuse to believe what is being repeated OVER and OVER by the coaches there.

I just wish you were all man enough to come back later in the year and post your apologies as well.

 

[dgreen]

do you think it's possible that Slaton got all the carries because they had guys they signed off the street as the back-ups?

Of course. I think it's obvious that Slaton got all those carries because:Slaton >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RB2 (Moats, Taylor, etc.)It was a closer RBBC with Green because:Slaton >> GreenWith Brown, I don't believe it's as close as Green or as far as the other guys.

 

[David Yudkin]

Once again the writer interjects his opinion on what COULD happen and people attribute that to what the team is going to do like it's a sure thing. The Texans also never said anything about Brown other than they plan to use him in short yardage situations. They said nothing about EVERY short yardage play, but yet that is the translation by people hearing what they want to hear.

Like Jason said, even if the coach WAS quoted directly, many times the outcome would be impossible ("we plan on running 35-40 times a game . . .").

And some of these beat writers have no clue about reality and statistics anyway. I asked one of the Pats beat writers recently about what their opinion was on the Pats running game and projections for each of the 5 guys in the Pats RBBC. Long story short, the numbers added up to over 4,000 yfs and 30 TD just from the Pats RBs, which we all know is never going to happen.

 

[loose circuits]

do you think it's possible that Slaton got all the carries because they had guys they signed off the street as the back-ups?

Of course. I think it's obvious that Slaton got all those carries because:Slaton >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RB2 (Moats, Taylor, etc.)It was a closer RBBC with Green because:Slaton >> GreenWith Brown, I don't believe it's as close as Green or as far as the other guys.

Now that you mention Taylor, in weeks 2 & 3 (before he was injured), he had 6 & 8 carries respectively while Slaton had 18 & 10. 65/35 split. Do you think Brown will earn more carries than Taylor did?

 

[H.K.]

Once again the writer interjects his opinion on what COULD happen and people attribute that to what the team is going to do like it's a sure thing. The Texans also never said anything about Brown other than they plan to use him in short yardage situations. They said nothing about EVERY short yardage play, but yet that is the translation by people hearing what they want to hear.

David, don't you think what the coach has actually done has the most merit? You can dismiss preseason if you choose, but look what Kubiak did in the third pre-season game (usually the most telling) where he had Slaton take the first two series, used Brown for the next two, and then went back to Slaton for the fifth. He also removed Slaton for short yardage in lieu of Brown, too.

link

 

[bcr8f]

Coach speak to get other teams to prepare for two RB's?

 

[David Yudkin]

Once again the writer interjects his opinion on what COULD happen and people attribute that to what the team is going to do like it's a sure thing. The Texans also never said anything about Brown other than they plan to use him in short yardage situations. They said nothing about EVERY short yardage play, but yet that is the translation by people hearing what they want to hear.

David, don't you think what the coach has actually done has the most merit? You can dismiss preseason if you choose, but look what Kubiak did in the third pre-season game (usually the most telling) where he had Slaton take the first two series, used Brown for the next two, and then went back to Slaton for the fifth. He also removed Slaton for short yardage in lieu of Brown, too.

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I put very little stock in anything from the preseason.

 

[TheFanatic]

I love people stick their head in the sand and refuse to believe what is being repeated OVER and OVER by the coaches there.

I just wish you were all man enough to come back later in the year and post your apologies as well.

Will you do the same? Also, do you really trust coach speak? Saying something is one thing. Doing something is another. Like saying Slaton will not get the short yardage goal line plays yet in the third preseason game he scored a TD from inside the 5. But, but, the coach said that Slaton wouldn't get those caries.

I am perfectly willing to admit I was wrong if Slaton has his carries limited. But if Slaton guns like a beast and Brown gets like 3 carries a game are you willing to come in here and admit your mistake and make your apologies?

 

[B. Nugget]

Most people that drafted Slaton (especially in PPR leagues) are banking on the catches to increase his value, but even if Brown does get a little bit of the action, most of us have already accepted that and happily still took Slaton in the 2nd half of the 1st round where we feel we are getting a top 5 back at a discount and got to pair him with a stud QB, RB or WR to start off the draft.

 

[pollardsvision]

As I said in the other thread, if these include most of the GL carries, it does affect Slaton's value.

Just the 10-12 carries/game by themselves probably help Slaton though. Most RBs probably shouldn't be getting much more than 300 carries to begin with and I'd say Slaton is better off over the course of the season in the 250-275 range (with a bunch of catches). 300 carries without getting hurt would be ideal, but that seems like too much to ask for.

 

[dgreen]

do you think it's possible that Slaton got all the carries because they had guys they signed off the street as the back-ups?

Of course. I think it's obvious that Slaton got all those carries because:Slaton >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RB2 (Moats, Taylor, etc.)It was a closer RBBC with Green because:Slaton >> GreenWith Brown, I don't believe it's as close as Green or as far as the other guys.

Now that you mention Taylor, in weeks 2 & 3 (before he was injured), he had 6 & 8 carries respectively while Slaton had 18 & 10. 65/35 split. Do you think Brown will earn more carries than Taylor did?

I think that was a different Slaton than this year. That was a Slaton who had played in one NFL game.

 

[doomsdaydoc]

it is not the number of touches that is so important but rather the type of touches. If Brown gets the goal carries, he could have a much larger percentage of the fantasy production from a smaller number of carries. If he got 2 touches in a particular week and they were 1st and goal from the 1 and he converts them, that is 12 fantasy points that Slaton would lose that week- of course, that will not happen every week

 

[kutta]

Once again the writer interjects his opinion on what COULD happen and people attribute that to what the team is going to do like it's a sure thing. The Texans also never said anything about Brown other than they plan to use him in short yardage situations. They said nothing about EVERY short yardage play, but yet that is the translation by people hearing what they want to hear.

David, don't you think what the coach has actually done has the most merit? You can dismiss preseason if you choose, but look what Kubiak did in the third pre-season game (usually the most telling) where he had Slaton take the first two series, used Brown for the next two, and then went back to Slaton for the fifth. He also removed Slaton for short yardage in lieu of Brown, too.

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If you want to look at stats, there were 16 carries between Slaton and Brown in that game, and Slaton received 75% to Brown's 25%. I think most Slaton owners would be very happy with that split.