Sleeper QBs' this Season? (1 Viewer)

[Klimtology]

I won my Championship last year largely due to my picking up Baker in early sept.

My strategy just about every year is picking a sleeper QB late.

Thoughts?

 

[pinkstapler]

Drake Maye - QB16 - was scoring around 17ppg last year and on pace to finish around QB11 and his team/weapons have improved.

Tua - QB21 - finished QB22 last season despite missing 6 games. I don't expect him to miss 6 games this season. I don't love the Dolphins outlook for this season, but I still think Tua will put up numbers better than his current ADP.

Stafford - QB22 - the only times in his career he's finished QB22 or lower was when he's played 9 or fewer games. Puka is proving himself to be in the Chase/JJ tier, is only entering his 3rd season and I think hasn't even hit his ceiling yet, and Stafford had to play the first 6 games without him (which I think is why Stafford had his slow start) If they both play a full season I think he easily finishes as a low end QB1

T-Law - QB20 - check his thread, I've said enough on him there. I'm pushing my whole stack into the pot on him finishing ahead of his ADP this year. Doesn't make me right, but he's far and away the one I have the strongest conviction about this year.

Honorable mention: Aaron Rodgers - QB28 - he's free. That's about the extent of it. If he plays a full season, I don't think he could TRY to finish lower than his ADP. I wouldn't bet on him finishing a QB1 let alone winning you your league, but if you spend a high draft pick on LJax/Burrow/Allen/Daniels who will basically never leave your line up outside their bye week, Rodgers is a safe free option as a backup who isn't going to lose the starting job and won't goose egg you the one week you need him.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Throw 3 darts between QB 15-28 with 1 of the darts aimed at Bryce Young or JJ McCarthy for upside

 

[Gally]

Throw 3 darts between QB 15-28 with 1 of the darts aimed at Bryce Young or JJ McCarthy for upside

JJM is my late target. Helps I am a Vikes fan.

 

[TripItUp]

Agree on McCarthy

His ability to run is going to surprise the casuals.

 

[menobrown]

Thoughts?

Feels like the best season ever to pull this off. So many options.

The last draft I had that was not BB I was the last team to take a starting QB, two teams had already drafted their backup. For the cost of a 14th, 16th and 17th round pick I walk away with Purdy, TLAW and Love.I'll take that all day.

I would say those 3, along with JJM are my favorites sleepers(thought not sure Purdy is a sleeper so much as undervalued). A few months ago I'd have said Fields but he's rose past sleeper status.

Also whoever is the starting QB for the Colts.

 

[Klimtology]

Alot of good info here!

Please keep them coming.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

So far I like the McCarthy, Lawrence, Maye and Young calls.

 

[Bri]

Ward

The least talked about top pick ever. I've seen him go undrafted

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Does Purdy and Goff count? I think Purdy has always been pretty solid (and underrated) This season he has a weak schedule. I think the fear mongering over the OC leaving is much ado about nothing. They'll be fine.

 

[Ilov80s]

Dak- Lamb, Pickens and a weak backfield. He is going to throw a lot.

Brock Purdy- this isn't the old dominant 49ers D, San Fran's offense is going to need score points, Shanahan offense usually figures things out

As noted above Bryce Young, JJM, Fields, Maye all bring interesting upside because of their legs

Also I wouldn't be at all surprised to look back at the end of the yeae to see Jordan Love and Michael Penix as top 12 QB scorers.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Baker Mayfield
7th QB off the board according to ADP is about the 7th round


Ha s a new 1st round toy to add to Evans and Godwin, great RB stable behind him featuring the explosive Bucky Irving
Plus he lost Godwin before the middle of the season last year, basically he's adding 2 WRs into his options in '25

I prefer to get one lock down starter and then throw a dart later and I'll explain why...we as Sharks give ourselves way too much credit that we can draft value after the 3rd-4th round
I'm serious, people act like they are just running the Draft watching stud QBs go off the board so they can get RB4 or WR5, those are darts as well to a degree

QB19 according to ADP is CJ Stroud 12th round pick, I still like him plenty and think he just had some hard times in Year 2 like so many other QBs before him, his WRs were injury riddled
Easily will bounce back this season and be a Top 10-12 QB like he showed us his rookie year

 

[Scoresman]

QB for me is all about mobility and just look for value where it falls. If this means a top QB, fine, but there are mobile QBs in the later rounds.

Also looking at outlier previous season TD rates matters. A lot of the time, high ones get worse, bad ones get better.

 

[Scoresman]

Baker Mayfield
7th QB off the board according to ADP is about the 7th round


Ha s a new 1st round toy to add to Evans and Godwin, great RB stable behind him featuring the explosive Bucky Irving
Plus he lost Godwin before the middle of the season last year, basically he's adding 2 WRs into his options in '25

I prefer to get one lock down starter and then throw a dart later and I'll explain why...we as Sharks give ourselves way too much credit that we can draft value after the 3rd-4th round
I'm serious, people act like they are just running the Draft watching stud QBs go off the board so they can get RB4 or WR5, those are darts as well to a degree

QB19 according to ADP is CJ Stroud 12th round pick, I still like him plenty and think he just had some hard times in Year 2 like so many other QBs before him, his WRs were injury riddled
Easily will bounce back this season and be a Top 10-12 QB like he showed us his rookie year

I'm starting to really sour on Mayfield this year. His TD rate last year is unsustainable. The weapons are there, but regression is certainly due. And didnt they just lose their all pro LT for most of the season? QB7 is too high for me.

 

[3nOut]

I mentioned JJ McCarthy in the Bold Predictions thread, but this year I also think Dak and Mayfield are sneaky good picks this year.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Baker Mayfield
7th QB off the board according to ADP is about the 7th round


Ha s a new 1st round toy to add to Evans and Godwin, great RB stable behind him featuring the explosive Bucky Irving
Plus he lost Godwin before the middle of the season last year, basically he's adding 2 WRs into his options in '25

I prefer to get one lock down starter and then throw a dart later and I'll explain why...we as Sharks give ourselves way too much credit that we can draft value after the 3rd-4th round
I'm serious, people act like they are just running the Draft watching stud QBs go off the board so they can get RB4 or WR5, those are darts as well to a degree

QB19 according to ADP is CJ Stroud 12th round pick, I still like him plenty and think he just had some hard times in Year 2 like so many other QBs before him, his WRs were injury riddled
Easily will bounce back this season and be a Top 10-12 QB like he showed us his rookie year

I'm starting to really sour on Mayfield this year. His TD rate last year is unsustainable. The weapons are there, but regression is certainly due. And didnt they just lose their all pro LT for most of the season? QB7 is too high for me.

Here's a post that's helpful.
I've been running around all week, can't check every single "breaking news" alert and get numb to them after a while
Here is some very important information and I thought you were kidding at first, was hoping you might be
No, it's true and it does impact Baker the first month or two of the season

-I would imagine Baker will continue to slide another round or two and when more folks read this and realize he is going to be exposed without Whirfs at LT
Good call Scores

 

[EWV1]

Also I wouldn't be at all surprised to look back at the end of the yeae to see Jordan Love and Michael Penix as top 12 QB scorers.

I was going to add Penix. It sounds like he will run less than JJM but I wonder how ATL will compare to MIN in terms of pass attempts.
Playcalling adv to JJM...but both are worth considering late.

Lawrence and Love too - though their ADP is higher.

 

[Scoresman]

I dont know what to make of Justin Fields this year. Rankings are all over the place. If you look at his FBG profile, he's anywhere from QB7-QB20.

If you take his ugly rookie season out of the picture, he's scored over 19 FPPG in starts. That would've been good for QB7 last year. It might not matter how bad a passer he is if they have no other option in NY.

Could be a league winner at his ADP.

 

[Ilov80s]

Also I wouldn't be at all surprised to look back at the end of the yeae to see Jordan Love and Michael Penix as top 12 QB scorers.

I was going to add Penix. It sounds like he will run less than JJM but I wonder how ATL will compare to MIN in terms of pass attempts.
Playcalling adv to JJM...but both are worth considering late.

Lawrence and Love too - though their ADP is higher.

Penix has athleticism but he didn't run much by the end of his college career. Having 3 season ending injuries his first 3 years in college might have convinced him that it's best for him to minimize contact. So that caps his upside but he has a big arm and Londo, Bijan, Pitts, Mooney and one of the better lines in the league. OC is a McVay guy. I could see Penix doing something like what we've seen from Geno Smith the last couple years puttin together a solid but unspectacular back end QB1 season on good passing numbers.

 

[wgoldsph]

Dak. A year removed from a top five finish, best supporting cast in years, no run game, below avg to awful defense...

How does he not throw the ball a hundred times a game?

 

[Mitchie]

Baker Mayfield
7th QB off the board according to ADP is about the 7th round


Ha s a new 1st round toy to add to Evans and Godwin, great RB stable behind him featuring the explosive Bucky Irving
Plus he lost Godwin before the middle of the season last year, basically he's adding 2 WRs into his options in '25

I prefer to get one lock down starter and then throw a dart later and I'll explain why...we as Sharks give ourselves way too much credit that we can draft value after the 3rd-4th round
I'm serious, people act like they are just running the Draft watching stud QBs go off the board so they can get RB4 or WR5, those are darts as well to a degree

QB19 according to ADP is CJ Stroud 12th round pick, I still like him plenty and think he just had some hard times in Year 2 like so many other QBs before him, his WRs were injury riddled
Easily will bounce back this season and be a Top 10-12 QB like he showed us his rookie year

I'm starting to really sour on Mayfield this year. His TD rate last year is unsustainable. The weapons are there, but regression is certainly due. And didnt they just lose their all pro LT for most of the season? QB7 is too high for me.

reports are Wirf will miss first month, maybe that could change down the line but that's what is being reported. also don't forget he played w/o Godwin for much of last year and w/o both Godwin and Evans for several games and still pretty much balled out.

 

[Scoresman]

Baker Mayfield
7th QB off the board according to ADP is about the 7th round


Ha s a new 1st round toy to add to Evans and Godwin, great RB stable behind him featuring the explosive Bucky Irving
Plus he lost Godwin before the middle of the season last year, basically he's adding 2 WRs into his options in '25

I prefer to get one lock down starter and then throw a dart later and I'll explain why...we as Sharks give ourselves way too much credit that we can draft value after the 3rd-4th round
I'm serious, people act like they are just running the Draft watching stud QBs go off the board so they can get RB4 or WR5, those are darts as well to a degree

QB19 according to ADP is CJ Stroud 12th round pick, I still like him plenty and think he just had some hard times in Year 2 like so many other QBs before him, his WRs were injury riddled
Easily will bounce back this season and be a Top 10-12 QB like he showed us his rookie year

I'm starting to really sour on Mayfield this year. His TD rate last year is unsustainable. The weapons are there, but regression is certainly due. And didnt they just lose their all pro LT for most of the season? QB7 is too high for me.

reports are Wirf will miss first month, maybe that could change down the line but that's what is being reported. also don't forget he played w/o Godwin for much of last year and w/o both Godwin and Evans for several games and still pretty much balled out.

Yeah I'm aware. It's just that everything went right offensively for them last year. That sort of outlier is difficult to maintain.

JJ Zachariason did an analysis on this. Since 2011, 15 QBs had a crazy high TD Rate one year, and the next year all 15 scored about 20% fewer FPPG the following year. Regression happens.

 

[Moonlight]

There are several mentioned who have a decent shot to outperform their ADP if that is the definition of a sleeper. One I don't see though is Mayfield.
But I will scrape the bottom of the barrel and suggest Daniel Jones. He's got the legs, a decent OL and decent receivers. Also a good running game to take the pressure off and set up play action. Steichen is an offensive minded coach as well.
Richardson may get a final gasp chance somewhere but I think he disappoints again.

 

[need2know]

Theres so many

 

[Chaka]

Does Purdy and Goff count? I think Purdy has always been pretty solid (and underrated) This season he has a weak schedule. I think the fear mongering over the OC leaving is much ado about nothing. They'll be fine.

I don't think it's the PC so much as Aiyuk opening the season on the PUP, losing Deebo and an oft injured and old Trent Williams anchoring a pretty mid OL.

 

[Mitchie]

Baker Mayfield
7th QB off the board according to ADP is about the 7th round


Ha s a new 1st round toy to add to Evans and Godwin, great RB stable behind him featuring the explosive Bucky Irving
Plus he lost Godwin before the middle of the season last year, basically he's adding 2 WRs into his options in '25

I prefer to get one lock down starter and then throw a dart later and I'll explain why...we as Sharks give ourselves way too much credit that we can draft value after the 3rd-4th round
I'm serious, people act like they are just running the Draft watching stud QBs go off the board so they can get RB4 or WR5, those are darts as well to a degree

QB19 according to ADP is CJ Stroud 12th round pick, I still like him plenty and think he just had some hard times in Year 2 like so many other QBs before him, his WRs were injury riddled
Easily will bounce back this season and be a Top 10-12 QB like he showed us his rookie year

I'm starting to really sour on Mayfield this year. His TD rate last year is unsustainable. The weapons are there, but regression is certainly due. And didnt they just lose their all pro LT for most of the season? QB7 is too high for me.

reports are Wirf will miss first month, maybe that could change down the line but that's what is being reported. also don't forget he played w/o Godwin for much of last year and w/o both Godwin and Evans for several games and still pretty much balled out.

Yeah I'm aware. It's just that everything went right offensively for them last year. That sort of outlier is difficult to maintain.

JJ Zachariason did an analysis on this. Since 2011, 15 QBs had a crazy high TD Rate one year, and the next year all 15 scored about 20% fewer FPPG the following year. Regression happens.

But my point is everything didn't go right, his two best wr's missed time. That said 41 TD's is a lot so he won't hit that probably. FBG has him at 32 and ranked 8th.

 

[Anarchy99]

I dont know what to make of Justin Fields this year. Rankings are all over the place. If you look at his FBG profile, he's anywhere from QB7-QB20.

If you take his ugly rookie season out of the picture, he's scored over 19 FPPG in starts. That would've been good for QB7 last year. It might not matter how bad a passer he is if they have no other option in NY.

Could be a league winner at his ADP.

Fields is a Top 5-7 QB based on his running stats. What happens if he starts getting passing stats too?

 

[Chaka]

I dont know what to make of Justin Fields this year. Rankings are all over the place. If you look at his FBG profile, he's anywhere from QB7-QB20.

If you take his ugly rookie season out of the picture, he's scored over 19 FPPG in starts. That would've been good for QB7 last year. It might not matter how bad a passer he is if they have no other option in NY.

Could be a league winner at his ADP.

Fields is a Top 5-7 QB based on his running stats. What happens if he starts getting passing stats too?

The AI Singularity.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Ward

The least talked about top pick ever. I've seen him go undrafted

Doing a 12-team startup right now, if he goes ignored long enough I’mma take a 3rd QB. I love his drive. He will be successful, he’ll will it to happen.

 

[ZWK]

IMO everyone in the top 20 has a decent shot at producing as a QB1 this year. One option is to just wait as long as you can, target other positions, and take whoever's left. In the 15-20 range by ADP, I think Herbert, Maye, McCarthy, and Lawrence have a better shot than Stroud or Love. A little bit earlier, Fields has elite upside (QB10 by ADP). Outside the top 20, Richardson probably has the best shot of being a QB1, though he might not even be their starter so he only makes sense if you're drafting 2 QBs.

 

[bluemanfoo]

I dont know what to make of Justin Fields this year. Rankings are all over the place. If you look at his FBG profile, he's anywhere from QB7-QB20.

If you take his ugly rookie season out of the picture, he's scored over 19 FPPG in starts. That would've been good for QB7 last year. It might not matter how bad a passer he is if they have no other option in NY.

Could be a league winner at his ADP.

Fields' range of outcomes is wider, which is what I want. I don't think he will, but he could suck with Jets. He can also be an elite fantasy QB with just modest improvements in his passing. I mean everybody said Lamar couldn't throw after his rookie year. And I realize we can't expect a Lamar-like improvement going into Fields fifth year, but I do think he can get better. Even if he doesn't improve and doesn't enter the elite tier, he's probably still a solid QB1.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Does Purdy and Goff count? I think Purdy has always been pretty solid (and underrated) This season he has a weak schedule. I think the fear mongering over the OC leaving is much ado about nothing. They'll be fine.

I don't think it's the PC so much as Aiyuk opening the season on the PUP, losing Deebo and an oft injured and old Trent Williams anchoring a pretty mid OL.

Sorry, my fault. The bolded was about Goff not Purdy. I still think Purdy will be fine without Deebo and Aiyuk for the first half.

 

[Grahamburn]

Ward

The least talked about top pick ever. I've seen him go undrafted

As he should.

 

[Grahamburn]

Baker Mayfield
7th QB off the board according to ADP is about the 7th round


Ha s a new 1st round toy to add to Evans and Godwin, great RB stable behind him featuring the explosive Bucky Irving
Plus he lost Godwin before the middle of the season last year, basically he's adding 2 WRs into his options in '25

I prefer to get one lock down starter and then throw a dart later and I'll explain why...we as Sharks give ourselves way too much credit that we can draft value after the 3rd-4th round
I'm serious, people act like they are just running the Draft watching stud QBs go off the board so they can get RB4 or WR5, those are darts as well to a degree

QB19 according to ADP is CJ Stroud 12th round pick, I still like him plenty and think he just had some hard times in Year 2 like so many other QBs before him, his WRs were injury riddled
Easily will bounce back this season and be a Top 10-12 QB like he showed us his rookie year

I'm starting to really sour on Mayfield this year. His TD rate last year is unsustainable. The weapons are there, but regression is certainly due. And didnt they just lose their all pro LT for most of the season? QB7 is too high for me.

Here's a post that's helpful.
I've been running around all week, can't check every single "breaking news" alert and get numb to them after a while
Here is some very important information and I thought you were kidding at first, was hoping you might be
No, it's true and it does impact Baker the first month or two of the season

-I would imagine Baker will continue to slide another round or two and when more folks read this and realize he is going to be exposed without Whirfs at LT
Good call Scores

Wirfs may miss the first 2-4 weeks. He’s definitely not gone most of the season.

 

[Grahamburn]

Trevor Lawrence with Liam Coen. Don’t sleep on your Jags. That guy puts his players in positions to succeed.

 

[Bri]

Ward

The least talked about top pick ever. I've seen him go undrafted

Doing a 12-team startup right now, if he goes ignored long enough I’mma take a 3rd QB. I love his drive. He will be successful, he’ll will it to happen.

Currently in round 15 and he hasn't been drafted.

(I'm especially non homer-y and won't take Titans unless it's late or (prior) Henry fell. )

I don't even usually take backup QBs in redraft.
He's without a doubt a special athlete. It has a high school recruiting mag feel now. All these 2 and 3 stars and he's sitting there as a 5 star.

 

[JohnnyU]

Not calling these sleepers, but I hope Love, Purdy, or Penix don’t suck.

 

[Bri]

Baker Mayfield
7th QB off the board according to ADP is about the 7th round


Ha s a new 1st round toy to add to Evans and Godwin, great RB stable behind him featuring the explosive Bucky Irving
Plus he lost Godwin before the middle of the season last year, basically he's adding 2 WRs into his options in '25

I prefer to get one lock down starter and then throw a dart later and I'll explain why...we as Sharks give ourselves way too much credit that we can draft value after the 3rd-4th round
I'm serious, people act like they are just running the Draft watching stud QBs go off the board so they can get RB4 or WR5, those are darts as well to a degree

QB19 according to ADP is CJ Stroud 12th round pick, I still like him plenty and think he just had some hard times in Year 2 like so many other QBs before him, his WRs were injury riddled
Easily will bounce back this season and be a Top 10-12 QB like he showed us his rookie year

I'm starting to really sour on Mayfield this year. His TD rate last year is unsustainable. The weapons are there, but regression is certainly due. And didnt they just lose their all pro LT for most of the season? QB7 is too high for me.

Here's a post that's helpful.
I've been running around all week, can't check every single "breaking news" alert and get numb to them after a while
Here is some very important information and I thought you were kidding at first, was hoping you might be
No, it's true and it does impact Baker the first month or two of the season

-I would imagine Baker will continue to slide another round or two and when more folks read this and realize he is going to be exposed without Whirfs at LT
Good call Scores

Wirfs may miss the first 2-4 weeks. He’s definitely not gone most of the season.

I doubt it.
One thing we all commonly do is project a linemen to return as if it's any other position in sports.

You're asking a guy post knee surgery to return and play every snap. Not take a carry or run a route and then catch their breath.

I very much think we're doing that here with the two weeks. Four? Idk but we'll read and know more.

It's important that they sign someone. He's been a common discussion point and everyone is saying they lack confidence in his backup.

 

[Chaka]

Not calling these sleepers, but I hope Love, Purdy, or Penix don’t suck.

I think Love is due for a nice rebound. He tweaked his leg pretty bad in week one and, I think again a couple weeks later and was never quite right after.

 

[menobrown]

Ward

The least talked about top pick ever. I've seen him go undrafted

Doing a 12-team startup right now, if he goes ignored long enough I’mma take a 3rd QB. I love his drive. He will be successful, he’ll will it to happen.

Currently in round 15 and he hasn't been drafted.

(I'm especially non homer-y and won't take Titans unless it's late or (prior) Henry fell. )

I don't even usually take backup QBs in redraft.
He's without a doubt a special athlete. It has a high school recruiting mag feel now. All these 2 and 3 stars and he's sitting there as a 5 star.

More then normal, in FFPC leagues with 20 rounds he's only getting drafted in 30% of the main event leagues and about 50% in their other big contest.

He gets drafted 100% of the time in BB and I've taken him a few times but that's only place I'm interested.

I don't really mess with drafting rookie QB's in one start QB redraft leagues unless they are big time runners or have really elite weapons. He fails on both counts IMO.

 

[DonFue]

Also I wouldn't be at all surprised to look back at the end of the yeae to see Jordan Love and Michael Penix as top 12 QB scorers.

I was going to add Penix. It sounds like he will run less than JJM but I wonder how ATL will compare to MIN in terms of pass attempts.
Playcalling adv to JJM...but both are worth considering late.

Lawrence and Love too - though their ADP is higher.

Penix has athleticism but he didn't run much by the end of his college career. Having 3 season ending injuries his first 3 years in college might have convinced him that it's best for him to minimize contact. So that caps his upside but he has a big arm and Londo, Bijan, Pitts, Mooney and one of the better lines in the league. OC is a McVay guy. I could see Penix doing something like what we've seen from Geno Smith the last couple years puttin together a solid but unspectacular back end QB1 season on good passing numbers.

He was dominant at Washington and, so far, it doesn't look like it was the WRs. It was Penix.

4500py, 30+ TDs.

Prediction: Odunze breaks hearts of fantasy owners

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Not calling these sleepers, but I hope Love, Purdy, or Penix don’t suck.

I think Love is due for a nice rebound. He tweaked his leg pretty bad in week one and, I think again a couple weeks later and was never quite right after.

I hope he throws 20 TDs to Golden

 

[need2know]

I dont know what to make of Justin Fields this year. Rankings are all over the place. If you look at his FBG profile, he's anywhere from QB7-QB20.

If you take his ugly rookie season out of the picture, he's scored over 19 FPPG in starts. That would've been good for QB7 last year. It might not matter how bad a passer he is if they have no other option in NY.

Could be a league winner at his ADP.

Fields is a Top 5-7 QB based on his running stats. What happens if he starts getting passing stats too?

What makes you think that will ever happen? The guy is a crappy qb.

 

[bluemanfoo]

I dont know what to make of Justin Fields this year. Rankings are all over the place. If you look at his FBG profile, he's anywhere from QB7-QB20.

If you take his ugly rookie season out of the picture, he's scored over 19 FPPG in starts. That would've been good for QB7 last year. It might not matter how bad a passer he is if they have no other option in NY.

Could be a league winner at his ADP.

Fields is a Top 5-7 QB based on his running stats. What happens if he starts getting passing stats too?

What makes you think that will ever happen? The guy is a crappy qb.

That's what they said about Lamar prior to the 2019 season, and prior to the 2022 season, everyone was calling for Philadelphia to acquire another QB. I owned Lamar and Hurts during their blowup seasons, so I'll take Fields this year.. Obviously, he'll never chuck it like he's a "Manning." But I think a modest improvement is possible.

 

[need2know]

I dont know what to make of Justin Fields this year. Rankings are all over the place. If you look at his FBG profile, he's anywhere from QB7-QB20.

If you take his ugly rookie season out of the picture, he's scored over 19 FPPG in starts. That would've been good for QB7 last year. It might not matter how bad a passer he is if they have no other option in NY.

Could be a league winner at his ADP.

Fields is a Top 5-7 QB based on his running stats. What happens if he starts getting passing stats too?

What makes you think that will ever happen? The guy is a crappy qb.

That's what they said about Lamar prior to the 2019 season, and prior to the 2022 season, everyone was calling for Philadelphia to acquire another QB. I owned Lamar and Hurts during their blowup seasons, so I'll take Fields this year.. Obviously, he'll never chuck it like he's a "Manning." But I think a modest improvement is possible.

I never thought of fields as anywhere close to lamar or hurts. But i guess its possible

 

[bluemanfoo]

I dont know what to make of Justin Fields this year. Rankings are all over the place. If you look at his FBG profile, he's anywhere from QB7-QB20.

If you take his ugly rookie season out of the picture, he's scored over 19 FPPG in starts. That would've been good for QB7 last year. It might not matter how bad a passer he is if they have no other option in NY.

Could be a league winner at his ADP.

Fields is a Top 5-7 QB based on his running stats. What happens if he starts getting passing stats too?

What makes you think that will ever happen? The guy is a crappy qb.

That's what they said about Lamar prior to the 2019 season, and prior to the 2022 season, everyone was calling for Philadelphia to acquire another QB. I owned Lamar and Hurts during their blowup seasons, so I'll take Fields this year.. Obviously, he'll never chuck it like he's a "Manning." But I think a modest improvement is possible.

I never thought of fields as anywhere close to lamar or hurts. But i guess its possible

Many people didn't think Lamar or Hurts could throw either but they improved.

 

[JohnnyU]

I dont know what to make of Justin Fields this year. Rankings are all over the place. If you look at his FBG profile, he's anywhere from QB7-QB20.

If you take his ugly rookie season out of the picture, he's scored over 19 FPPG in starts. That would've been good for QB7 last year. It might not matter how bad a passer he is if they have no other option in NY.

Could be a league winner at his ADP.

Fields is a Top 5-7 QB based on his running stats. What happens if he starts getting passing stats too?

What makes you think that will ever happen? The guy is a crappy qb.

That's what they said about Lamar prior to the 2019 season, and prior to the 2022 season, everyone was calling for Philadelphia to acquire another QB. I owned Lamar and Hurts during their blowup seasons, so I'll take Fields this year.. Obviously, he'll never chuck it like he's a "Manning." But I think a modest improvement is possible.

I never thought of fields as anywhere close to lamar or hurts. But i guess its possible

Many people didn't think Lamar or Hurts could throw either but they improved.

True dat

 

[Scoresman]

Fields can continue to be a crappy passer and still be good for fantasy. I don't believe his ADP is dependent on improving much as a passer.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Theres so many

True...I'm just looking at a rival site but they have Justin Herbert at 16, that's fine because I think his stats last season and this coming season with Harbaugh running things, right in the middle of all 32 starting QBs, no issue with that ranking. But now let's run thru 17-24 let's say

17. Trevor Lawrence
18. Drake Maye
19. Michale Penix Jr
20. Sam Darnold
21. Bryce Young
22. Jordan Love
23. CJ Stroud
24. Geno Smith
25. Matt Stafford

-These in theory are being taken as QB2 or back ups for traditional Redrafts, forget leagues that start 2 QBs for a minute
TLaw is kind of a gamble these days, new HC again who was a hot name after his job as OC with the Bucs, a much better organization I might add all the way around
I would not feel great about taking him and don't believe he is going to be the Top 10 secret this season but maybe he finally shows flashes for upcoming years
Maye was part of a 6-man QB class that were all taken by about pick number 10-12 last year. Maye took lots of snaps all season in a poorly run system, HC #2 in Season 2
Penix has perhaps the most talent and tools around him, he's set his sights on making the Playoffs, not sure that will be in the cards with the Bucs in the same division
Wildcard spots will be fierce in the NFC this year with so many great expectations from so many teams

Darnold feels like a foolish pick but at some point everyone has some value.
I'm not a beleiver in Young just yet but I'm happy he finally showed some flashes of possibly being a starting QB, let's see if he can build on that, won't be on my team.
I've been saving my accolades for some of these at the bottom of this tier/grouping. I don't love Jordan Love but I think he can do a lot better than last year. His WRs were a mess
I think the arrival of Matt Golden will help straighten the rest of them out. Strong RB room, won't be all Josh Jacobs and the Pack also have a strong TE room developing.

CJ Stroud was the toast of the town his rookie season and then Year 2 came along and many injuries surrounding his talent pool, lost all 3 of his starting WRs for long stints, bad OL, lost hist starting RB for a few weeks, give me a break! Nobody is going to overcome all that by themselves, he's lucky he didn't suffer a major injury himself which proves how reliable this guy is, something I look for when I am drafting, even the back ups or Bye week fillers need to be able to produce when called upon and not "Questionable" all the time. Put me down for CJS

I also like Geno Smith where he is being drafted, likely gonna be the starting QB all year, has a strong rookie RB and some decent toys at WR and of course the ALL Pro TE entering only his 2nd season and already being hailed as a possible future HoF type career so Smith could easily enter the Top 12 and will several weeks just not all the time.

Stafford is 25th and you could mention Tua Tags at 26th but his ceiling is limited because the next concussion should just about seal up his career. Stafford long int he tooth but does have two very good WRs to throw to, I think the Rams WRs are slightly dangerous to pick because if anything happens to Stafford, their outlook changes a lot. Yes you can say that about many WRs, but how amny of them have a QB as old as Stafford? The Steelers, I grant you that one but very few are as old as Stafford, his OL better be in the top 5-10 range pass protection in order to keep him upright

CJS/GSmith would be the two late I like a lot with some upside, Maye and Love are also interesting, doubt we have seen their best seasons thus far in their careers.
I don't know how open the offense will be in New England but the Packers are going to be in some high scoring games with Detroit, Minnesota and many assume the Chicago Bears are going to look much different on offense this season. They can't hide the ball in Jacobs' arm and win a lot of those football games.

-Nice Bat signal

 

[-OZ-]

I’m heavily leaning towards a combination of Dak and Bryce Young in redraft.

Not too jinx things but my QBs in dynasty are Penix in one, Caleb, nix and Bryce in SF. Caleb and nix are far too hyped to be sleepers but I think all 4 should be good in 25.