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If you don't know how to short a stock, you probably shouldn't be shorting stock.How can I short FB?
I bet in a year their stock is 1/2 of what it is now.
If you don't know how to short a stock, you probably shouldn't be shorting stock.How can I short FB?
I bet in a year their stock is 1/2 of what it is now.
If someone is willing to pay $3 Billion for it, I'm sure someone is willing to throw money at creating an alternative.You guys would take the money and run. So would I. That's what most folks would do. But the founder obviously isn't most folks. Most folks wouldn't have built it up this much to begin with. I can totally understand turning it down. If you believe you have a good product and will continue to grow for the foreseeable future, no reason to think the value will vanish over the next year or so.
Facebook already tried this with the Poke app. It didn't really take off.If someone is willing to pay $3 Billion for it, I'm sure someone is willing to throw money at creating an alternative.You guys would take the money and run. So would I. That's what most folks would do. But the founder obviously isn't most folks. Most folks wouldn't have built it up this much to begin with. I can totally understand turning it down. If you believe you have a good product and will continue to grow for the foreseeable future, no reason to think the value will vanish over the next year or so.
This technology didn't cost nearly $3 Billion to create, I'm just surprised FB wouldn't just try to duplicate it.
1 - As Eephus pointed out, legally it wouldn't be so easy. http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/21/snapchat-has-a-patent-that-could-help-it-become-the-defacto-camera-app/If someone is willing to pay $3 Billion for it, I'm sure someone is willing to throw money at creating an alternative.You guys would take the money and run. So would I. That's what most folks would do. But the founder obviously isn't most folks. Most folks wouldn't have built it up this much to begin with. I can totally understand turning it down. If you believe you have a good product and will continue to grow for the foreseeable future, no reason to think the value will vanish over the next year or so.
This technology didn't cost nearly $3 Billion to create, I'm just surprised FB wouldn't just try to duplicate it.
Guys taking a gamble that the Chinese will actually pay 4 billion. Face will be the eventual buyer. Owner will be lucky if its for one million dollars :drevil:You guys would take the money and run. So would I. That's what most folks would do. But the founder obviously isn't most folks. Most folks wouldn't have built it up this much to begin with. I can totally understand turning it down. If you believe you have a good product and will continue to grow for the foreseeable future, no reason to think the value will vanish over the next year or so.
FB also is not cool. FB is your mom and dad's social media. SC, Twitter, Instagram, Tumblr, and Ask.fm are hip and not flooded with older family members.Facebook already tried this with the Poke app. It didn't really take off.If someone is willing to pay $3 Billion for it, I'm sure someone is willing to throw money at creating an alternative.You guys would take the money and run. So would I. That's what most folks would do. But the founder obviously isn't most folks. Most folks wouldn't have built it up this much to begin with. I can totally understand turning it down. If you believe you have a good product and will continue to grow for the foreseeable future, no reason to think the value will vanish over the next year or so.
This technology didn't cost nearly $3 Billion to create, I'm just surprised FB wouldn't just try to duplicate it.
I will actually venture to say that most of those are already old and outdated.FB also is not cool. FB is your mom and dad's social media. SC, Twitter, Instagram, Tumblr, and Ask.fm are hip and not flooded with older family members.Facebook already tried this with the Poke app. It didn't really take off.If someone is willing to pay $3 Billion for it, I'm sure someone is willing to throw money at creating an alternative.You guys would take the money and run. So would I. That's what most folks would do. But the founder obviously isn't most folks. Most folks wouldn't have built it up this much to begin with. I can totally understand turning it down. If you believe you have a good product and will continue to grow for the foreseeable future, no reason to think the value will vanish over the next year or so.
This technology didn't cost nearly $3 Billion to create, I'm just surprised FB wouldn't just try to duplicate it.
This. The first time I heard of Twitter I Thought it was idiotic and would never take off. Now I use it more than FB and so do most of the people I know(25-30 year olds). It'll eventually be bigger than FB. Maybe the people of Snapchat believe that same thing and wanna continue the project they created.You guys would take the money and run. So would I. That's what most folks would do. But the founder obviously isn't most folks. Most folks wouldn't have built it up this much to begin with. I can totally understand turning it down. If you believe you have a good product and will continue to grow for the foreseeable future, no reason to think the value will vanish over the next year or so.
It's not the tech FB wants it's the people. anyone can do this and there are probably dozen of other services just like this. Fortunately for this guy, his is the one which took off.If someone is willing to pay $3 Billion for it, I'm sure someone is willing to throw money at creating an alternative.You guys would take the money and run. So would I. That's what most folks would do. But the founder obviously isn't most folks. Most folks wouldn't have built it up this much to begin with. I can totally understand turning it down. If you believe you have a good product and will continue to grow for the foreseeable future, no reason to think the value will vanish over the next year or so.
This technology didn't cost nearly $3 Billion to create, I'm just surprised FB wouldn't just try to duplicate it.
They aren't. They are all very big amongst young users. Teens use FB as well. They just have a lesser opinion of it and are using it less.I will actually venture to say that most of those are already old and outdated.FB also is not cool. FB is your mom and dad's social media. SC, Twitter, Instagram, Tumblr, and Ask.fm are hip and not flooded with older family members.Facebook already tried this with the Poke app. It didn't really take off.If someone is willing to pay $3 Billion for it, I'm sure someone is willing to throw money at creating an alternative.You guys would take the money and run. So would I. That's what most folks would do. But the founder obviously isn't most folks. Most folks wouldn't have built it up this much to begin with. I can totally understand turning it down. If you believe you have a good product and will continue to grow for the foreseeable future, no reason to think the value will vanish over the next year or so.
This technology didn't cost nearly $3 Billion to create, I'm just surprised FB wouldn't just try to duplicate it.
That's a pretty good return on one day of holding out.This. The first time I heard of Twitter I Thought it was idiotic and would never take off. Now I use it more than FB and so do most of the people I know(25-30 year olds). It'll eventually be bigger than FB. Maybe the people of Snapchat believe that same thing and wanna continue the project they created.You guys would take the money and run. So would I. That's what most folks would do. But the founder obviously isn't most folks. Most folks wouldn't have built it up this much to begin with. I can totally understand turning it down. If you believe you have a good product and will continue to grow for the foreseeable future, no reason to think the value will vanish over the next year or so.
Google offered 4B the day after FB offered 3.
IM me, I have plenty.I just wish they wouldn't kill the stripper accounts. Once they find out about girls sending out nudes in their story they always get axed :(
Twitter just laid off 10% of its workforce.This. The first time I heard of Twitter I Thought it was idiotic and would never take off. Now I use it more than FB and so do most of the people I know(25-30 year olds). It'll eventually be bigger than FB. Maybe the people of Snapchat believe that same thing and wanna continue the project they created.
Google offered 4B the day after FB offered 3.
use ad-block plus extension for your browser.Ads have made Youtube pretty awful to use.
PrivateIf I had an account, can my followers or whatever see who I follow, or is that private?
No ####### way that stupid app is worth anywhere near that kind of money. Another "cool" app will come along and snapchat will become myspace 6.0Snapchat has seemed to really take off the past few years. So many of my younger friends seem to love it. They probably did good to hold off selling to FB. Current valuation over $16bn
huh...link? I stand corrected: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-01/fidelity-writes-down-snapchat-holding-by-63-percentSnapchat has seemed to really take off the past few years. So many of my younger friends seem to love it. They probably did good to hold off selling to FB. Current valuation over $16bn
Don't worry man, you can't zoom in with Snapchat.I just hope my schween pics weren't somehow saved by any girls.
The "stupid app" now valued at roughly $20bn: http://techcrunch.com/2016/05/23/sources-snapchat-is-raising-more-money-at-about-a-20-billion-valuation/No ####### way that stupid app is worth anywhere near that kind of money. Another "cool" app will come along and snapchat will become myspace 6.0
I'm not an avid user but I think there are options where you can add on features to your face, etc…it's primarily a short video sharing site. Sort of like a Twitter for vids.Is Snapchat the one where you can make someone's tongue in a picture look like a rainbow? That's worth 20bn?
If so, I'm starting to get the popularity of Trump.
Yeah that's why I use it too.... Not for nudes, for sure.I got my entire family using this app now. It's a great way to send short videos of kids. The face transformations are fun to play with as well, adults & kids.
Dude.I got my entire family using this app now. It's a great way to send penis pics. The face transformations are fun to play with as well, adults & kids.
That's because you aren't thinking about what the future of data collection looks like. The data SC can collect is actually MORE material to advertisers than FB. Imagine visual recognition software that figures out where you are in the video and your online experience becomes inundated with that stuff. Snapchat something while on the Gondola at Crested Butte? Guess who is getting hammered with ski trip offers and ski stuff for sale. Pic with your friends at Starbucks...same...The issue is how do you monetize it? Seems like another example of private valuations out of whack. Facebook at least has customer data. Hard to imagine snap chat gets that kind of info.
Yeah what a PE company is "worth" is one of the biggest bubbles out there right now.The "stupid app" now valued at roughly $20bn: http://techcrunch.com/2016/05/23/sources-snapchat-is-raising-more-money-at-about-a-20-billion-valuation/
They already have a few creative ways they are monetizing Snapchat. Some of the face transformations are available for sale. They also are doing custom ones to promote things like the Xmen movie. You can make your face look like the characters in the movie. I'm sure the sponsors are paying a nice chunk of change for these.The issue is how do you monetize it? Seems like another example of private valuations out of whack. Facebook at least has customer data. Hard to imagine snap chat gets that kind of info.
These valuations are made by the investor groups who own large parts of the same companies. The high valuations keep capital flowing in and allow the companies to attract talent.The "stupid app" now valued at roughly $20bn: http://techcrunch.com/2016/05/23/sources-snapchat-is-raising-more-money-at-about-a-20-billion-valuation/
They sell event/regional based advertising as well. Someone on our BBQfest team paid to upload a "BBQfest Usual Saucepects" photo frame that people could add to snaps taken within 2mi of the event that weekend. I can see that being a legit form of revenue for events.They already have a few creative ways they are monetizing Snapchat. Some of the face transformations are available for sale. They also are doing custom ones to promote things like the Xmen movie. You can make your face look like the characters in the movie. I'm sure the sponsors are paying a nice chunk of change for these.
They also have snap stories of large events, like sports games, holidays, etc. Some of the events they cover for example are, The super bowl, Kentucky Derby, Dawali, the Arnold Classic, etc. They take snaps from all the people there, and make a cool snap story. It's a great way to kind of get a feel for the atmosphere at one of these events. In these stories they have inserted commercials.
I bet it would IPO with a similar valuation if taken to market now. Rarely does an IPO debut for much less unless market conditions drastically change.bagger said:Yeah what a PE company is "worth" is one of the biggest bubbles out there right now.
Take it public and see what the true value would be.
lol you haven't been paying attention to recent tech ipos then.I bet it would IPO with a similar valuation if taken to market now. Rarely does an IPO debut for much less unless market conditions drastically change.
There have definitely been a handful of tech companies that were overpriced during the private rounds in past years, mainly bubble induced. I don't think investors see the easy IPO route anymore. The capital markets window is shut for many (hence market conditions changing). Facebook which is its closest comp seemed to price and perform just fine. Granted, both companies are probably outliers but that's kind of my point. Snapchat is for real.lol you haven't been paying attention to recent tech ipos then.