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Snellings upside ? (1 Viewer)

ggiants81

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So , I picked up Jason Snelling a few weeks ago after listening to one of the podcasts.

All of a sudden I might have me a new starting rb for a few weeks.

What do you guys think about his upside ?

I'm a bit weary, but I think he can start as a flex at least on my team, the only competiton there right now is

Donald Brown ,rb Ind

Steve Breaston, wr Ari

He should beat those two guys production , right ? No matter what kind a scoring system, (I'm in a ppr league)

 
No first hand experience here but, from what I've heard, Snelling has good hands and is built for a between the tackles kind of game. The game against NYG is kinda of tough as they have given up some decent games to RBs but are coming off a bye and presumably getting healthier on D. I'd start him over Brown barring an injury to Addai. I'd also start him over Breaston this week as Boldin looks to be rapidly getting healthy. I'm also looking (and as a Beanie owner) hoping that they give the ball to Wells a little more once they grab the lead. They're are some guys that have much better knowledge of Atl and Snelling here so let them reply before making your final decision. I'm rolling with Snelling this week over Forsett vs Minn and Moreno against SD (PPR).

 
I'm rolling with Snelling this week over Forsett vs Minn and Moreno against SD (PPR).
I too am also faced with this, as I have Moreno, Snelling, and LJ (Scott on waivers). LJ is out for the week, so the other three remain.At this point I am leaning toward Moreno based on matchup. That may change, however, if only Snelling and Stecker are active, and Norwood and Turner sit. I think Moreno is starting to get it, and against a Chargers run d that is not very good, I expect a much better game than last time. Snelling's upside is pretty high, but with the Giants coming off the bye, it's a dubious start. Tough call, but I am leaning the other way with Moreno over Snelling...for now.
 
I'm rolling with Snelling this week over Forsett vs Minn and Moreno against SD (PPR).
I too am also faced with this, as I have Moreno, Snelling, and LJ (Scott on waivers). LJ is out for the week, so the other three remain.At this point I am leaning toward Moreno based on matchup. That may change, however, if only Snelling and Stecker are active, and Norwood and Turner sit. I think Moreno is starting to get it, and against a Chargers run d that is not very good, I expect a much better game than last time. Snelling's upside is pretty high, but with the Giants coming off the bye, it's a dubious start. Tough call, but I am leaning the other way with Moreno over Snelling...for now.
I can't offer concrete evidence to disuade you from starting Moreno. My personal feelings are that SD is playing better on D, that White and Gonzo force the NYG to drop into coverage leaving a void behind the line of scrimage, that the Giants look to pressure Ryan with White out, that Snelling picks up decent gains on draws and screens in the void between the upfield pursuit and the drop in that pass coverage. Not an A game with 100 yds rushing but a few decent dump-offs in a PPR format, I like Snelling. Moreno isn't even involved in passing situations for the Broncos.
 
I don't have the option, I only have Forsett, but if I had Snelling, I think I would start him. He's a solid runner, good hands and is used in the passing game more than Turner. He lacks his explosive power and speed, but he's a solid fill in, IMO. When Turner was struggling, Snelling was frankly out-performing him. Pretty solid RB2, IMO. I still like him to do well even if Norwood plays.

 
Not trying to bust anyone's bubble, but earlier this morning Flea Flicker was reporting the Norwood would get the nod if Turner can't go. It's no longer there but are now saying that Turner has not been ruled out of this week's game. For the record I have Turner and grabbed Snellings off the WW.

All the different reports are confusing as hell.

 
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Not trying to bust anyone's bubble, but earlier this morning Flea Flicker was reporting the Norwood would get the nod if Turner can't go. It's no longer there but are now saying that Turner has not been ruled out of this week's game. For the record I have Turner and grabbed Snellings off the WW. All the different reports are confusing as hell.
Yep other than the early game Thursday (Brown out) all the news is muddled right now. We'll know more after Friday's practices. I doubt Turner plays this week.
 
Jason Snelling (RB, Falcons, 1,686 adds) - Amongst the hurt running backs to make an opportunistic play on, Michael Turner's high ankle sprain gives the most potential mileage to the backup. Something tells me Snelling will help owners make fantasy playoff runs in the next four weeks. Reportedly, Jerious Norwood will get the start, but throughout the season Snelling played a far bigger role in the offense with Norwood more involved in the passing game, so I'm still sold on Snelling.
http://fantasyfootball.fanhouse.com/2009/1...-running-backs/
 
Turner not ruling himself out vs the Giants

Are these guys for real? Come on man, you have a high ankle sprain.
Sounds like misdirection to me. Smith is nicer about it, but he's nearly as adamant as BB and Schwartz about giving out a competetive advantae RE: injuries. Seriously doubt he plays wk 11, would not be surprised to see him wk 12.
MJD would never misdirect his owners like that. :) @ Turner
At least Turner runs all the way IN to the endzone. ;)
 
I read somewhere that Turner came back "quickly" from a high ankle sprain once before - is that accurate?

If it's as diagnosed (high ankle sprain), is there any realistic reason to think Snelling won't be the #1 for at least a few weeks?

 
Here's my opinion, for what it's worth:

I'm HEAVILY invested in Michael Turner (High Stakes League with a significant investment and very high payout).

This particular League scoring is VERY basic: 6/TDR, 9/TDRec (for RB's) and 6/100+RushYards, 9/150+RushYards, 12/200+RushYards, etc. That means nothing, zero, nada for # of Rushes, no PPR, no points for any yards under 100, nothing for any yards between 101-149, and so on. Just want to spell that out to illustrate the frame of reference my opinion stems from.

My RB Stable is otherwise relatively mediocre: Hightower, DonBrown, FrTaylor/SMorris. I chose to invest in QB and WR and a solid TE, and made RB2 my weak point due to Scoring and Flex Lineup Options. Again, just illustrating the frame of reference.

I'm doing very well, knock on wood. If the Playoffs were to start today, I'd have the #2 Seed and a Bye, which is critical to this discussion because a Playoff Bye GUARANTEES me getting back my high buy-in, as the League treats 1st Round Playoff losers like dirt. I'm very motivated to protect current position. Again, just illustrating my frame of reference.

What I'm trying to say is that someone in my position should be, and is, VERY interested in the Turner situation, and the prospects of Snelling and the other RB's on the Roster in the event of his absence.

Last night was the final night of Waivers, and Snelling was available, and I was in position to make a relatively cheap move to acquire him.

I chose not to.

Jason Snelling is your average RB, and that's not necessarily a criticism, but based on what I've seen, and more importantly, what I NEED, he wasn't worth it, IMO.

Here's what I'm seeing: barring further injury, while Turner is out, Snelling is 'one of three', along with a now-healthier, explosive Norwood and savvy veteran Aaron Stecker. Norwood is a big play waiting to happen, with decent receiving skills, and Stecker is a journeyman utility infielder who knows how to do a little bit of everything well enough, including pass block properly, to merit touches in the absence of Turner and help keep a Defense honest. Being a vet, who's been on the NFL field in plenty 'clutch time' during his career, he's got value being out there in critical situations where the outcome of a series, or the game, depends on folks getting what needs to be done, done. That's a big deal for a Team in Atlanta's position.

Keep the Defense honest, so that the outcome of the Game is neither on the shoulders of Matt Ryan or the Defense: that's the most important thing Atlanta needs to do in Turner's absence, in NFL terms, to win enough Games to make the Playoffs. I've seen nothing from Snelling so far that makes me think he's capable of doing that on his own, nor (more importantly) do the Falcons NEED HIM TO, with two backs like Norwood and Stecker available for touches. By diversifying the touches through 3 relatively unique backs, the Falcons ought to be able to accomplish the most critical thing towards ensuring the offense maintains productive consistency in Turner's absence - not allowing Defenses to collapse on Tony Gonzalez and take him out of the equation.

In 'normal' situations, I'd imagine the only thing we can be reasonably sure of regarding Snelling is that he'll likely be the guy to carry the ball on 1st Down rushing plays. All remaining touches will be determined by down and distance and situation, and it's my opinion that the coaching staff ought to regard Snelling and Stecker as interchangeable in short yardage and goal line situations.

Captain Obvious tells us that his value all depends on how your League scores, but if my opinion holds water, no matter the scoring format, his upside is limited at best, to about 40% of total RB production while Turner is out, and there are two other mouths that deserve feeding in the Offensive Big Picture.

JMHO...

 
I read somewhere that Turner came back "quickly" from a high ankle sprain once before - is that accurate? If it's as diagnosed (high ankle sprain), is there any realistic reason to think Snelling won't be the #1 for at least a few weeks?
KFFL says he suffered a high ankle sprain on 8/25/07 and was ready to play on 9/7/07. The extent of the injury was not detailed.
 
I read somewhere that Turner came back "quickly" from a high ankle sprain once before - is that accurate? If it's as diagnosed (high ankle sprain), is there any realistic reason to think Snelling won't be the #1 for at least a few weeks?
KFFL says he suffered a high ankle sprain on 8/25/07 and was ready to play on 9/7/07. The extent of the injury was not detailed.
But he was nt a starter then, i think it makes a difference when you carry the ball 30 times a game to 3 times a game . I could easily see a extra week so like 3 weeks .
 
Here's my opinion, for what it's worth:I'm HEAVILY invested in Michael Turner (High Stakes League with a significant investment and very high payout).This particular League scoring is VERY .....
I got through this much before I tapped out.
Too bad, because Nittany is one to listen to. All he was doing was explaining his position and why, smartassc. His was the best info in this thread.
 
BRONG said:
workdog3 said:
Here's my opinion, for what it's worth:I'm HEAVILY invested in Michael Turner (High Stakes League with a significant investment and very high payout).This particular League scoring is VERY .....
I got through this much before I tapped out.
Too bad, because Nittany is one to listen to. All he was doing was explaining his position and why, smartassc. His was the best info in this thread.
:unsure: and good subjective info.
 
Choke said:
Snelling can average 4 yards per carry in the NFL.Snelling can handle most phases of the game.Snelling can handle the short yardage (inside) duties.Snelling can handle 20 touches a game.Upside? 22 touches with 85 yards and a TD as an average.Many fantasy teams have been helped by a high carry bull of a runner.The main knock is his lack of NFL speed (4.7 [40yd]) to go with his serious lack of wiggle (7.05 [3cone]).
Snelling is also a very good receiver out of the backfield
 
Here's my opinion, for what it's worth:I'm HEAVILY invested in Michael Turner (High Stakes League with a significant investment and very high payout).This particular League scoring is VERY basic: 6/TDR, 9/TDRec (for RB's) and 6/100+RushYards, 9/150+RushYards, 12/200+RushYards, etc. That means nothing, zero, nada for # of Rushes, no PPR, no points for any yards under 100, nothing for any yards between 101-149, and so on. Just want to spell that out to illustrate the frame of reference my opinion stems from.My RB Stable is otherwise relatively mediocre: Hightower, DonBrown, FrTaylor/SMorris. I chose to invest in QB and WR and a solid TE, and made RB2 my weak point due to Scoring and Flex Lineup Options. Again, just illustrating the frame of reference.I'm doing very well, knock on wood. If the Playoffs were to start today, I'd have the #2 Seed and a Bye, which is critical to this discussion because a Playoff Bye GUARANTEES me getting back my high buy-in, as the League treats 1st Round Playoff losers like dirt. I'm very motivated to protect current position. Again, just illustrating my frame of reference.What I'm trying to say is that someone in my position should be, and is, VERY interested in the Turner situation, and the prospects of Snelling and the other RB's on the Roster in the event of his absence.Last night was the final night of Waivers, and Snelling was available, and I was in position to make a relatively cheap move to acquire him.I chose not to.Jason Snelling is your average RB, and that's not necessarily a criticism, but based on what I've seen, and more importantly, what I NEED, he wasn't worth it, IMO.Here's what I'm seeing: barring further injury, while Turner is out, Snelling is 'one of three', along with a now-healthier, explosive Norwood and savvy veteran Aaron Stecker. Norwood is a big play waiting to happen, with decent receiving skills, and Stecker is a journeyman utility infielder who knows how to do a little bit of everything well enough, including pass block properly, to merit touches in the absence of Turner and help keep a Defense honest. Being a vet, who's been on the NFL field in plenty 'clutch time' during his career, he's got value being out there in critical situations where the outcome of a series, or the game, depends on folks getting what needs to be done, done. That's a big deal for a Team in Atlanta's position.Keep the Defense honest, so that the outcome of the Game is neither on the shoulders of Matt Ryan or the Defense: that's the most important thing Atlanta needs to do in Turner's absence, in NFL terms, to win enough Games to make the Playoffs. I've seen nothing from Snelling so far that makes me think he's capable of doing that on his own, nor (more importantly) do the Falcons NEED HIM TO, with two backs like Norwood and Stecker available for touches. By diversifying the touches through 3 relatively unique backs, the Falcons ought to be able to accomplish the most critical thing towards ensuring the offense maintains productive consistency in Turner's absence - not allowing Defenses to collapse on Tony Gonzalez and take him out of the equation.In 'normal' situations, I'd imagine the only thing we can be reasonably sure of regarding Snelling is that he'll likely be the guy to carry the ball on 1st Down rushing plays. All remaining touches will be determined by down and distance and situation, and it's my opinion that the coaching staff ought to regard Snelling and Stecker as interchangeable in short yardage and goal line situations.Captain Obvious tells us that his value all depends on how your League scores, but if my opinion holds water, no matter the scoring format, his upside is limited at best, to about 40% of total RB production while Turner is out, and there are two other mouths that deserve feeding in the Offensive Big Picture.JMHO...
Interesting and well stated. I don't disagree with a lot of what your saying, HOWEVER; the Falcons thought enough of Stecker to cut him and Norwood, while dynamic, has shown time and time again that he's not built to carry the load - even in a single game. I'd say Snelling (listed as questionable last week???) and Stecker both get chances. Coaches tend to go with the most productive back in whatever they deem is the most important aspect of the offense. In other words, if the Falcons decide Ryan will beat the NYG then the guy that blocks the best may see time. If they feel the run game must be there to win, then the guy producing in the run game will see time. If the staff decides to split carries to minimize wear, doubtful, on the RB; they split carries. Does Norwood see a ton of looks because he's rested or is he limited because he's coming back from an injury? I think it's all up in the air at this point.
 
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I read somewhere that Turner came back "quickly" from a high ankle sprain once before - is that accurate? If it's as diagnosed (high ankle sprain), is there any realistic reason to think Snelling won't be the #1 for at least a few weeks?
KFFL says he suffered a high ankle sprain on 8/25/07 and was ready to play on 9/7/07. The extent of the injury was not detailed.
Thanks TG. The biggest question in regard to Snelling's value is the extent of the injury to Turner. If we're talking about one week, there isn't much of a point in the debate. If it's 4-6 weeks, now we're talkin' On that note, I haven't seen anything confirming a high ankle sprain, let alone any real timeframe for his return. Glad the injury report is taken seriously...
 
It's all about duration. If Turner is back in 2 weeks, nothing to see here. If it's 4-6 as is often the case with high ankle sprains, you've got potential gold. I feel pretty confident that if he performs as he has done so far he would get the bulk of the carries. Norwood every few series to mix things up, and Stecker for mop up.

 
I haven't seen anything indicating Norwood is even good to go.
The Atlanta newspaper said today that it looks like he is a long shot to play this week. All he did was run on the side today and they are hoping he will be able to run on the side again tomorrow.Even if he is active he doesn't seem likely to see a lot of touches this week.
 
FWIW, as a homer, I saw Snelling as greater short-term value, but went with Forsett because I saw him as better long-term value.

 
It's all about duration. If Turner is back in 2 weeks, nothing to see here. If it's 4-6 as is often the case with high ankle sprains, you've got potential gold. I feel pretty confident that if he performs as he has done so far he would get the bulk of the carries. Norwood every few series to mix things up, and Stecker for mop up.
;) So is there ANY news out there confirming Turner has a high ankle sprain?
 
Running back Jerious Norwood looks like a longshot to be ready to play against the Giants. He has missed the past four games with a hip flexor.

"Jerious ran [Tuesday], and we got him some running on the side [Wednesday]," Smith said. "That will be the first time that he's really run back to back. We're anxious to see if we can get him back out here tomorrow."

Link

Looks like Stecker could be a decent fill-in for deeper leagues.

 
Snelling the 11th best back according to ppr cheatsheets.

I doubt I can sit Deangelo for him but it shows how much FBG likes him.

 
FWIW, as a homer, I saw Snelling as greater short-term value, but went with Forsett because I saw him as better long-term value.
Having both Ronnie Brown and Dwayne Bowe to dump from my roster, I was able to hedge my bets and roll the dice with both Snelling & Forsett.I agree with you completely on the short-term/long-term upsides of both players.
 
It's all about duration. If Turner is back in 2 weeks, nothing to see here. If it's 4-6 as is often the case with high ankle sprains, you've got potential gold. I feel pretty confident that if he performs as he has done so far he would get the bulk of the carries. Norwood every few series to mix things up, and Stecker for mop up.
Why nothing to see if Turner is out 2 weeks. Some of us types who have Slaton and Ronnie Brown on our teams sure could use a starting RB for a couple weeks while we figure something else out.
 
It's all about duration. If Turner is back in 2 weeks, nothing to see here. If it's 4-6 as is often the case with high ankle sprains, you've got potential gold. I feel pretty confident that if he performs as he has done so far he would get the bulk of the carries. Norwood every few series to mix things up, and Stecker for mop up.
Why nothing to see if Turner is out 2 weeks. Some of us types who have Slaton and Ronnie Brown on our teams sure could use a starting RB for a couple weeks while we figure something else out.
Since I basically said the same thing in a previous post, I'll tell you my opinion: If you already have Snelling, then you'll probably start him if Turner is out - kind of a no-brainer. HOWEVER, at this point in the week, he's on somebody's squad in every league. So if you want/need a starter and you don't already have him, you'll have to trade for him. Personally, I'm not inclined to trade for a guy who's going to start for 1 or 2 weeks maybe. Therefore any discussion around Snelling is moot if that's the case. But if Turner is going to be out for say four weeks, then I'm a lot more willing to think about doing what I can to get Snelling and plug the hole left by Ronnie Brown (or whomever).

 
Anyone starting this week? If so who are you benching to play him?
I may start him over either one of White, Smith (NYG) or Megatron in a league where WR's get .5 PPR...use him at the flex over one of them.I may start him over Mendy in another. Still debating....
 
Picked up Snelling to take Ronnie Browns place. Just wish he had a better matchup this week, might have to stick with Slaton vs Tenn over Snelling and hope that Turner is out a couple more weeks so that I get a chance to use him. Anyone else running with Snelling this week? Who are you benching him for?

 
Same ronnie brown and bowe issue. Just traded scott to benson owner for chambers. I have regiie bush, moreno, lynch and snelling. Snelling and moreno probably, but maybe lynch.

 
Anyone starting this week? If so who are you benching to play him?
lost both bowe and westbrook (in two leagues).i'm starting snelling as my flex over forsett (vs MIN), bradshaw (foot and sharing carries with Jacobs), ssmith (NYG) (can't depend on Eli just yet and snelling will certainly get more touches) in one league and starting him over mike bell (bush is out) and garcon in another (not much bench in this league)
 
Norwood is questionable- but could be a huge factor in the game- he's fresh from 5 weeks off and may be in the game plan the Falcons aren't openly sharing with the media and public. Also Snelling was gased in the 3rd quarter after only 1-1/2 quarters work.....

 

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