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So hungover this morning I accidently wore two different shoes (1 Viewer)
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squistion
Footballguy
And you can't learn or even try to? Really? You do understand that filing taxes are designed for most normal people who don't have close to your genius IQ.
jamny
Footballguy
Sit in on an AA meeting where there are like 100 people. No one will even know you're there. Just sit and listen.
Have a donut and coffee and leave.
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Quint
Footballguy
http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/plastic-bag-gas
Ive been reading about this for weeks. You want me to just go to a group session?
Ive been reading about this for weeks. You want me to just go to a group session?
jamny
Footballguy
I can't get in to my finances but assure you there are several extremely good reasons why I could not file taxes. It would have greatly hurt me. Let's drop the subject.
Quint
Footballguy
RnR, if you are truly thinking about ending your life, please call 1-800-273-8255.
help yourself.
jamny
Footballguy
You can't walk into a room of 100+ people and sit in the corner somewhere for a few minutes? You work in a restaurant.
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Conanthecontrarian
Footballguy
Guys, i think you should leave Rok alone and not push him right now. That link he provided is some scary ####. Whether his thoughts are real or not doesnt matter. Im not taking that chance and having him harm himself. i think we should all back out of this thread and encourage him to follow Quint's excellent advice.
squistion
Footballguy
As I recall from a thread over 6 months back, he thinks that the US income tax is unconstitutional and that may be one of the several extremely good reasons why I could not file taxes and may be the actual reason why he wants to drop the subject, not this curious claim that he is from a poor background and filing taxes is too intimidating and complicated for him to figure out.
jamny
Footballguy
Sounds like he owes them for something. It's become a come to Jesus moment. A lein on a bank account? They are really flexible. Work out a schedule to repay. I kmow!
CurlyNight
Footballguy
But people are having fun! It's only online, what's the harm? I really hope I'll never be saying told ya so to some dolts in this thread.
I owe about 8k on a student loan. Probably over 20k to social security. Probably 3K to SNAP and whatever I'm getting from TX unemployment to cover the difference because I'm not making much to survive on at my new job. Not to mention Obamacare penalties.Altogether that's all going to be almost 50k in debt soon and it's only a matter of time before they seize what little money I do have and I'll be back on the streets and I have no idea how to fix this situation.
Why in the world would I file a tax return?
Why would I talk to someone that doesn't know me? What good is that going to do for someone disconnected from the world?
Quint
Footballguy
they are trained professionals. they will listen, and offer advice as necessary.
and i don't want to come of like a jerk here, but if you made an appointment to see a psychiatrist tomorrow, that person wouldn't know you either. they would learn about you and your specific situation the same way the person answering that phone would learn about you. they are there to help.
please. help yourself.
i wish you all the best, and hope for you to succeed.
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The fact that you owe $20k to SS suggests that you were a 1099 employee...that you do owe. Student loans are a lender issue. Don't know what SNAP is and can't comment Same with Texas Unemployment laws are but if you're working now you should coordinare withn them. Be thankful that you're young and the Obamacare penalties that you are exposed to are anywhere near the premiums you would be paying now. I paid the penalty
I wasn't 1099. I was collecting SSI and didn't report my income for 2 years while working because without the check and SNAP (food stamps) I wouldn't have been able to afford to live in NYC.
TX unemployment may come after me because I'm currently working part time and not looking for a second or new job because it's a new restaurant and it's gradually picking up. So I'm conducting work searches weekly like they require. If they audit me and I have to fabricate work search logs it may not be adequate for them and they may want the money back. I'm hoping sooner rather than later I'll be making enough money at the restaurant to survive and I can stop requesting payment and shut down my account and not have to worry about the logs.
I'm pretty sure it will be the usual "you have everything to live for" stuff that they use to talk people off ledges. I want to see a doctor that I can tell my history to and perhaps get an accurate diagnosis eventually. Or medication that will prevent me from imploding in my own head.
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CurlyNight
Footballguy
Then it becomes even more important for you to create you own support group. If you attend NAMI for example you don't need to speak. But you can perhaps make connections, get direction from someone there. You have to start somewhere sometime..
I'm afraid and I feel like I'm not ready to relate in a group setting. I'm frustrated that I can't actually see a doctor in this healthcare system. What if I really need medication and I can never get it?
CurlyNight
Footballguy
I haven't delved into this site, but it may help you find something near you..
https://www.adaa.org/finding-help/treatment/low-cost-treatment
ETA: It might be beneficial for you to join the online member community. You can chat with people with similar struggles and get real direction from those in the trenches.
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I have trouble understanding these sites. Can the suicide hotline point me towards a program for psychiatric treatment?
CurlyNight
Footballguy
The operators won't have a specific name and # for you. They are good at talking you off the ledge. If you want, pm me your location and I'll give you the info of what's in your area that may help you.
Two things here, the second being the most important...
On your first quote, you don't have to be religious to utilize services provided by many churches. The churches have their own reasons for tying to help those in need, regardless of your beliefs at the time.
Of more immediate importance, and I know this from unfortunate experience with loved ones, if you really believe you are a danger to yourself, you can see a professional psychiatrist for free. Go into the nearest ER, tell them you are depressed and considering suicide. Tell them about the "ideation" behavior you are exhibiting, like linking to methods here in this thread. You are likely to be admitted and will receive professional care regardless of your funding or lack thereof. Be aware that if you go this route, you should accept the admission voluntarily when offered. No need to give reason to consider involuntary admission.
Medical records being confidential, no one else need know about this hospitalization, and you can worry about dealing with any costs later when you've gotten the treatment you believe that you need.
I'm suggesting you commit yourself for as much or as little treatment as you need.
You have said you want to see a professional psychiatrist but cannot afford it. You have said you are a danger to yourself, but want help. Not being doctors, it's unlikely you or I have any way of reasonably assessing how long or how quick of a treatment might be required.
Step one is getting the help that you want and need. Let the professionals work with you to determine what you need and how to obtain it. It's a voluntary commitment so they are going to get you counselling and medical help and work with you on developing a treatment plan. Trust their judgment, as they have likely seen people with your symptoms many times and can help.
The fact that you want to get help, and have things you want to live for (girlfriend, helping others) will only help with your recovery. It may well be as simple as getting you on the right medication. Or perhaps it will take some time, trial and error, to find the right one. Maybe ongoing therapy of some sort is going to be part of the answer. But help is available, and you owe it to yourself to at least try getting it.
I have committed myself before this exact reason a few years ago. I spent several days in a psychiatric ward. It was a horrible experience. Nothing to occupy our minds every day. Each only had a few minutes each day with a doctor and counseler that did little to nothing to help us. Inadequate food. I felt like a refugee or something with the lack of supplies and intense boredom. I will never do that again voluntarily.
I want to be able to see a psychiatrist once a week to try to get to the root of my problems and try some treatment options. It seems impossible in this country.
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Very unfortunate. I know quality of care varies from place to place, but what you are describing is well below the standards of care my relative received.
I can't speak to specific facilities in your area, but perhaps seek out a different hospital. There are in most places multiple companies, and some non-profits running medical services, and you could well have a better experience elsewhere.
In our case, on-going counselling and regular psychiatric followups were part of the provided services. Imhope you can find something comparable.
This was in NY when I had Medicaid. Now with no health coverage how could I possibly get better care?
CurlyNight
Footballguy
You may need to start with a therapist first. She/he would get a good idea of what's going on with you. If meds seems to be in order, they can send you to a clinic where you can get what you need. Here's a couple of sites I found. Need to go to bed soon but you can start by calling around in the am. Get the ball rolling. Just getting going in a positive direction should help some with your mood.
http://treatment.adaa.org/finding-help/search-results/zipcode/75063/radius/20/
http://www.needymeds.org/free_clinics.taf?_function=list&state=TX
Location matters. Some health systems are just better than others. (In my experience, care in the Northern Virginia area was inferior to that in Pittsburgh, even with the same health plan.) So better care could simply be a consequence of the Irving system being superior, or less overloaded, or who knows?
And for an emergency admission, the lack of coverage is not an issue. Don't let that stand in your way.
Looks like CurlyNight is on the ball with some local resources you could see if you want a smaller but positive step to take. A therapist at one of those clinics can probably give you a pretty good idea of what you can expect from the local mental health system. Tell him/her about your bad experiences with the NY system, and see what they have to say.
Remember...it's the administrators that are worried about the cost and finances. The frontline care providers you're likely to be dealing with for treatment are going to want, first and foremost, to help you.
The Kerminator
Footballguy
Nobody here knows you either. You don't have a problem talking to them. CALL THE NUMBER!
Obamacare will cost you nothing. You could sign up this week because you've had a life status change. You don't need to have filed a tax return. Tell them you expect your income for the year to be around $18,000. Your premium should be peanuts. I would suggest using an agent rather than the Marketplace hotline.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
There has been a ton of fantastic advice given on this page. Let's see how many more excuses our genius can throw out there to avoid following any of the advice.
That would be pointless if they have no information for help resources. Their psychology training won't have any effect on me and probably make me feel worse because I know it's BS.
Will it cost me nothing or will I have to pay a premium and deductibles when I use it?
I have no clue how to sign up for it .
When there is a valid reason not to take the advice I have responded with such. So none of these count.remember that post asking for specific examples of you not taking advice - read the last 3 pages
I love checking in on the ridiculousness of this thread every few days.
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