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[Hawks64]

First of all, how was your day?

It was cool and windy today, could have used a scarf GB.

 

[CurlyNight]

If that's what you think then you clearly haven't spent enough time in the FFA. There are quite a few folks here that I genuinely care about, but you go on thinking that no one here does that. I've spent time BSing with and hanging out with guys from this board and there are more than a dozen that I'd love to hang out with but haven't had the opportunity to yet.

I engage him simply because he's an ### to everyone short of EG that has give him advice for his myriad of life problems over the last 9 years. He shouldn't get a pass for that.

Where did I say no one cares about anyone here? Of course we have those we like and care about and others are either meh, or put on ignore. I know I'm on a few ignore lists. People were kind enough to mention me on their ignore lists. So no, I've been on and off here since 2005 and it's only been since my cancer stuff that have people either let me be or actually come to like me. I actually got several t's and p's when I posted my I have cancer thread, nowhere near what other more popular folks here get, but nonetheless it was nice to see not everyone hates me. But as for me, I've come a long way to becoming rattled by something stupid or insensitive someone may say to me. A life threatening diagnosis quickly leads you to figure out what's worth your attention and what's not. Having had my own struggles in my childhood with a different culture on top, having a fam full of MI and issues, and now cancer, I've decided that it's more important for me to try and help others. On this board it is difficult if the posts aren't in the suicide thread because that's the only thread that is spared even if something may be schtick in that one, but the important thing is does it really make you feel better bringing yourself down to his level and lash out?

 

[KCitons]

Where did I say no one cares about anyone here? Of course we have those we like and care about and others are either meh, or put on ignore. I know I'm on a few ignore lists. People were kind enough to mention me on their ignore lists. So no, I've been on and off here since 2005 and it's only been since my cancer stuff that have people either let me be or actually come to like me. I actually got several t's and p's when I posted my I have cancer thread, nowhere near what other more popular folks here get, but nonetheless it was nice to see not everyone hates me. But as for me, I've come a long way to becoming rattled by something stupid or insensitive someone may say to me. A life threatening diagnosis quickly leads you to figure out what's worth your attention and what's not. Having had my own struggles in my childhood with a different culture on top, having a fam full of MI and issues, and now cancer, I've decided that it's more important for me to try and help others. On this board it is difficult if the posts aren't in the suicide thread because that's the only thread that is spared even if something may be schtick in that one, but the important thing is does it really make you feel better bringing yourself down to his level and lash out?

I've noticed this in some of your posts. You call the OP out for his actions as well. Others just do it in a more colorful way. 

I also want to be clear, there are a lot of posts that are poking fun at the OP. I would venture to say, they are not trying to be hurtful. But, the OP takes them personal and lashes out. EG has tried to coach him on this, but he doesn't seem to understand. This is something that happens in every thread. As a person with cancer, I would wonder if the ad nauseum  ball cancer joke would be offensive?

 

[jon_mx]

Here's one example

The characterization that RnR only lashes out at people who come in to bash him is just wrong.   He gets mad at anyone who doesn't pander to his dumb choices or does not agree he is an innocent victim.  He often leaves out important details that flip his story from being the victim to being the cause.  I usually press him for those details and it pisses him off. His initial story often make no sense until you find out about that rude drunken text he sent or something.  

Of course if this is going to be Joe's therapy forum, he needs to get some licensed therapists.  I have no idea how sick he is, but I don't think anyone here is qualified to help him.  

 

[Hawks64]

Where did I say no one cares about anyone here? Of course we have those we like and care about and others are either meh, or put on ignore. I know I'm on a few ignore lists. People were kind enough to mention me on their ignore lists. So no, I've been on and off here since 2005 and it's only been since my cancer stuff that have people either let me be or actually come to like me. I actually got several t's and p's when I posted my I have cancer thread, nowhere near what other more popular folks here get, but nonetheless it was nice to see not everyone hates me. But as for me, I've come a long way to becoming rattled by something stupid or insensitive someone may say to me. A life threatening diagnosis quickly leads you to figure out what's worth your attention and what's not. Having had my own struggles in my childhood with a different culture on top, having a fam full of MI and issues, and now cancer, I've decided that it's more important for me to try and help others. On this board it is difficult if the posts aren't in the suicide thread because that's the only thread that is spared even if something may be schtick in that one, but the important thing is does it really make you feel better bringing yourself down to his level and lash out?

Lashing out? Hardly. Calling him out, absolutely. More of a don't waste your time, he's going to have any and all reasons why he can't take anyone's advice and he's rather an ### about it most times. 9 years of that = troll IMO.

Oh BTW the "popular" folks you have mentioned are the most welcoming and most gracious people on this board. Also, the post by Koya speaks volumes, I didn't see it though. Regardless, Koya's one the good guys around here and being lambasted by RnR after a cornhole tells me all I need to know.

 

[CurlyNight]

I've noticed this in some of your posts. You call the OP out for his actions as well. Others just do it in a more colorful way. 

I also want to be clear, there are a lot of posts that are poking fun at the OP. I would venture to say, they are not trying to be hurtful. But, the OP takes them personal and lashes out. EG has tried to coach him on this, but he doesn't seem to understand. This is something that happens in every thread. As a person with cancer, I would wonder if the ad nauseum  ball cancer joke would be offensive?

Oh when I was first diagnosed there's a guy on fft that started a thread about **** cancer. It wasn't clear if it was a diss to me or not as he's one that doesn't like me but not a good time to be "funny." So yeah, I took it hard. The thread got locked and threads rarely get locked as it's hardly moderated over there. But now that I'm out from the shock, regardless of what my prognosis may be, I don't get offended if it's not clearly aimed to hurt me or mock me.

 

[CurlyNight]

The characterization that RnR only lashes out at people who come in to bash him is just wrong.   He gets mad at anyone who doesn't pander to his dumb choices or does not agree he is an innocent victim.  He often leaves out important details that flip his story from being the victim to being the cause.  I usually press him for those details and it pisses him off. His initial story often make no sense until you find out about that rude drunken text he sent or something.  

Of course if this is going to be Joe's therapy forum, he needs to get some licensed therapists.  I have no idea how sick he is, but I don't think anyone here is qualified to help him.  

Online therapy is not effective. No way can you be as sure as you can be about someone you never have met in person. Body language and such things that you can only pick up on in person helps add to the entire picture. Otherwise it's even more of a guess. What's happening here is people who are upset that they've been dissed aren't just putting Rok and his thread on ignore and be done with it. So it goes round and round until the next diss which gets someone rattled. If you're done with trying to help him, then be done. I don't think I'm helping him right now because he's not doing anything we advise him to do, but the thread is here for future use if he wishes or for others who may not feel comfortable posting about themselves but see themselves in a similar situation. What's the point in posting in here if it makes you upset for some reason? He should be driving such folks away, not getting them to check back in. Whoever posts advice or anything helpful should know enough about him that it may get shot down. To me, so what. I hope someone who is troubled will find something of mine that helps. Whether it does or not or gets tossed to the wind, I know I tried and I'm at peace with that. No need for me to rattle myself. Have enough #### to be rattled about.

 

[CurlyNight]

Lashing out? Hardly. Calling him out, absolutely. More of a don't waste your time, he's going to have any and all reasons why he can't take anyone's advice and he's rather an ### about it most times. 9 years of that = troll IMO.

Oh BTW the "popular" folks you have mentioned are the most welcoming and most gracious people on this board. Also, the post by Koya speaks volumes, I didn't see it though. Regardless, Koya's one the good guys around here and being lambasted by RnR after a cornhole tells me all I need to know.

Tells me you guys need to put him on ignore. Koya said as much that he has. Smart thing to do. There is nothing wrong with trolling in your own thread. And I beg to differ on popular folks are welcoming to everyone. Many are not.

Only the cancer boards are where I've seen everyone be welcoming and kind. What a world it would be if everyone was equal like that. Would elliminate many social problems..

 

[jon_mx]

Until RnR addresses his drinking, all this personal crap is in the noise.  

 

[CurlyNight]

Until RnR addresses his drinking, all this personal crap is in the noise.  

And until he wants help it'll be going round and round in here, which is why I say let him rattle on and don't feed it by derailing it with lunch orders or calling him out. What's the point? Waste of energy and time. That's why I don't respond to this thread for days at a time. Tiring for sure. But I want to try and help if not him, someone if I can so I don't go away for good. Maybe at some point I'll leave this thread for good, who knows.

 

[BassNBrew]

And until he wants help it'll be going round and round in here, which is why I say let him rattle on and don't feed it by derailing it with lunch orders or calling him out. What's the point? Waste of energy and time. That's why I don't respond to this thread for days at a time. Tiring for sure. But I want to try and help if not him, someone if I can so I don't go away for good. Maybe at some point I'll leave this thread for good, who knows.

Mmmm lunch. Time for something off the Panera secret menu

 

[CurlyNight]

Mmmm lunch. Time for something off the Panera secret menu

Keep feeding his thread. That's what he wants.

 

[KCitons]

Keep feeding his thread. That's what he wants.

Wait, I'm confused. Are we supposed to give him what he wants, or what he doesn't want? 

 

[Binky The Doormat]

Whichever one you think he wants, or doesn't want- assuming you know. I never claim to know what he wants. Only he knows.

Pretty sensitive subject ...but was anything ever determined about those allegations of solicitation about your illness or lack thereof at another website with you Curly?  

I think that is something that would help people feel more comfortable with your position.  

 

[RokNRole]

Have you called the OP and #######?

I'm pretty sure he has and I'm sure I earned it.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Have never had a desire to get involved in this stuff... as to meeting, seemed like a good enough guy over a couple drinks. 

After that though, he left a lambasting (satirical? Just, odd) post toward me and I didn't find it worth getting into.  

His persona on here aside, because I really don't pay much attention to it, seemed like a good guy hope it works out. 

I remember that. I thought it was bizarre too, but I'm pretty sure he said afterward that it was a complete joke. I think he just has an odd sense of humor. He can speak to it himself but I have to believe that. I can't imagine a night at the bar with you as being anything less than stimulating, both for the mind and the genitals. 

 

[CurlyNight]

Pretty sensitive subject ...but was anything ever determined about those allegations of solicitation about your illness or lack thereof at another website with you Curly?  

I think that is something that would help people feel more comfortable with your position.  

What's there to determine, and why does it matter more than 10 years later? Something did happen and I'm not obligated to give the details. Those who should know do and I am friends with all of them today.  I've posted enough of my history here, so yes, I would say I have a different take than many here on what may be going on with Rok. And I'm not out to get people to feel comfortable with my position. It will make sense to some while not to others. That's the way such stuff goes.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Keep feeding his thread. That's what he wants.

Panara is good at feeding everyone, no discrimination whether he wants it or not.

 

[RokNRole]

Lashing out? Hardly. Calling him out, absolutely. More of a don't waste your time, he's going to have any and all reasons why he can't take anyone's advice and he's rather an ### about it most times. 9 years of that = troll IMO.

Oh BTW the "popular" folks you have mentioned are the most welcoming and most gracious people on this board. Also, the post by Koya speaks volumes, I didn't see it though. Regardless, Koya's one the good guys around here and being lambasted by RnR after a cornhole tells me all I need to know.

Lambasted Koya? What the hell are you talking about?

 

[RokNRole]

I remember that. I thought it was bizarre too, but I'm pretty sure he said afterward that it was a complete joke. I think he just has an odd sense of humor. He can speak to it himself but I have to believe that. I can't imagine a night at the bar with you as being anything less than stimulating, both for the mind and the genitals. 

The stuff I said about Koya immediately after our cornhole?

 

[Hawks64]

Have never had a desire to get involved in this stuff... as to meeting, seemed like a good enough guy over a couple drinks. 

After that though, he left a lambasting (satirical? Just, odd) post toward me and I didn't find it worth getting into.  

His persona on here aside, because I really don't pay much attention to it, seemed like a good guy hope it works out. 

Lambasted Koya? What the hell are you talking about?

Not reading your own thread??

 

[RokNRole]

Not reading your own thread??

Are you talking about what I said about him immediately after our cornhole?

 

[Hawks64]

Are you talking about what I said about him immediately after our cornhole?

I'm talking about what Koya said, try keeping up.

 

[RokNRole]

Have never had a desire to get involved in this stuff... as to meeting, seemed like a good enough guy over a couple drinks. 

After that though, he left a lambasting (satirical? Just, odd) post toward me and I didn't find it worth getting into.  

His persona on here aside, because I really don't pay much attention to it, seemed like a good guy hope it works out. 

Was it what I said right after our cornhole?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Because, ultimately this is a community. When the community asks for help, the FFA more often than not comes guns-a-blazing. What he's doing IMO is diminishing the community because those that routinely help with very good to great advice are often engaged aggressively by your GB RnR. I don't think that aligns with the community here and call him out on his trolling. There have been a tremendous number of people who have gone out of their way to help, offer advice and would be happy to help in anyway they can privately as well. He chooses to engage in a hostile manner, so he should not get a free pass IMO. TBH I'd love to hear what our GB @Koya thinks of this as he's met RnR in person but he's been silent in this thread. Wonder why.

And you don't think that a good part of the reason for his hostile responses is the fact that there are people constantly "calling him out?" It's a vicious cycle. Help me break it.

The fact that people think he diminishes the community is why McGarnicle suggested he start his own thread. That way he only "diminishes" one thread and it makes it easy for others to avoid. Yet, there's a group of you in here day after day admonishing him. All I've ever asked is for people who don't like Rok to just ignore this thread. Yet a number of you are totally unwilling or unable to do that.

 

[CurlyNight]

And you don't think that a good part of the reason for his hostile responses is the fact that there are people constantly "calling him out?" It's a vicious cycle. Help me break it.

The fact that people think he diminishes the community is why McGarnicle suggested he start his own thread. That way he only "diminishes" one thread and it makes it easy for others to avoid. Yet, there's a group of you in here day after day admonishing him. All I've ever asked is for people who don't like Rok to just ignore this thread. Yet a number of you are totally unwilling or unable to do that.

We'll never get an answer that makes total sense..

 

[Evilgrin 72]

The stuff I said about Koya immediately after our cornhole?

Yes. I thought you made it clear afterward that you were kidding, but I'm not sure Koya saw it the same way.

 

[Hawks64]

And you don't think that a good part of the reason for his hostile responses is the fact that there are people constantly "calling him out?" It's a vicious cycle. Help me break it.

The fact that people think he diminishes the community is why McGarnicle suggested he start his own thread. That way he only "diminishes" one thread and it makes it easy for others to avoid. Yet, there's a group of you in here day after day admonishing him. All I've ever asked is for people who don't like Rok to just ignore this thread. Yet a number of you are totally unwilling or unable to do that.

Because he can't stop being an ### to those who try to help him other than you. Everyone else it's you don't know what it's like, you don't understand, I can't do that. The latest example is he is constantly saying how broke he is, someone suggested that he get another job to help. His response was I can't I work 30-35 hours a week full time. It's that same thing over and over. Take advice when you seek it out, don't ask and then turn hostile when it doesn't fit what you want.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

What's there to determine, and why does it matter more than 10 years later? Something did happen and I'm not obligated to give the details. Those who should know do and I am friends with all of them today.  I've posted enough of my history here, so yes, I would say I have a different take than many here on what may be going on with Rok. And I'm not out to get people to feel comfortable with my position. It will make sense to some while not to others. That's the way such stuff goes.

That doesn't address my question Curly.  Look ...I would like to be direct here.

Please explain what happened at another site.  

 

[RokNRole]

Yes. I thought you made it clear afterward that you were kidding, but I'm not sure Koya saw it the same way.

It was a joke. I even peppered in some lines from Seinfeld so it would be obvious. Soon afterwards I stated that I had a good time and I looked forward to seeing him again. I even invited him to come to my restaurant with his wife.

@Koya if you thought that was serious it wasn't.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Because he can't stop being an ### to those who try to help him other than you. Everyone else it's you don't know what it's like, you don't understand, I can't do that. The latest example is he is constantly saying how broke he is, someone suggested that he get another job to help. His response was I can't I work 30-35 hours a week full time. It's that same thing over and over. Take advice when you seek it out, don't ask and then turn hostile when it doesn't fit what you want.

I understand what you're saying and it's frustrated me as well, but I don't think it's that cut and dried. Maybe there's a reason he doesn't turn hostile with me. 

 

[CurlyNight]

That doesn't address my question Curly.  Look ...I would like to be direct here.

Please explain what happened at another site.  

Explain to me why I would post something I consider even more personal anywhere on the net? So people can go wow and have days of convo with it, and when my name is attached, it's usually not a convo I'd want to see esp from so long ago. The people who cared about me before and during are the ones who deserved to know. Nothing personal as maybe you do care,  but I don't know that. And I certainly know many people know of the other site I post on with my ####, talking to myself in the form of a blog who don't care. And I'm not looking for people to care. I have a great support group on the cancer boards. Asking me to go back to my past to rehash something unpleasant is not going to help me, and that should be the concern I would think, for people that care. Not the let's find out what it is so we can pile on which no way can you tell me that it wouldn't happen from anyone here. Take what I say as advice in this thread as food for thought. I don't know for sure what's up with Rok and neither does anyone else, so let's just let him be in his own thread. I don't know how tossing things back in someone's face, true or not, is helpful for a disturbed individual, which is something I think we all agree on that he's not well.

 

[RokNRole]

Because he can't stop being an ### to those who try to help him other than you. Everyone else it's you don't know what it's like, you don't understand, I can't do that. The latest example is he is constantly saying how broke he is, someone suggested that he get another job to help. His response was I can't I work 30-35 hours a week full time. It's that same thing over and over. Take advice when you seek it out, don't ask and then turn hostile when it doesn't fit what you want.

That was about a month ago I was struggling. I explained that business is picking up and my financial situation is improving and I don't have to panic and sell my plasma or drum kit.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

It was a joke. I even peppered in some lines from Seinfeld so it would be obvious. Soon afterwards I stated that I had a good time and I looked forward to seeing him again. I even invited him to come to my restaurant with his wife.

@Koya if you thought that was serious it wasn't.

I got the joke, but I also have an odd sense of humor so I can't assume everyone did.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

Explain to me why I would post something I consider even more personal anywhere on the net? So people can go wow and have days of convo with it, and when my name is attached, it's usually not a convo I'd want to hear esp from so long ago. The people who cared about me before and during are the ones who deserved to know. Nothing personal as maybe you do care,  but I don't know that. And I certainly know many people know of the other site I post on with my ####, talking to myself in the form of a blog who don't care. And I'm not looking for people to care. I have a great support group on the cancer boards. Asking me to go back to my past to rehash something unpleasant is not going to help me, and that should be the concern I would think, for people that care. Not the let's find out what it is so we can pile on which no way can you tell me that it wouldn't happen from anyone here. Take what I say as advice in this thread as food for thought. I don't know for sure what's up with Rok and neither does anyone else, so let's just let him be in his own thread. I don't know how tossing things back in someone's face, true or not, is helpful for a disturbed individual, which is something I think we all agree on that he's not well.

That still doesn't explain the issue of you raking people's money at the other site.  

 

[CurlyNight]

That still doesn't explain the issue of you raking people's money at the other site.  

Lol! It wasn't me. It was a caring member there and all money was returned per my request when I got back and found out about that. I'm done re-living my past. Think what you like. I have a whole different life now that unfortunately produces enough struggles daily. So you can be happy about that if you think I stole from people.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

Lol! It wasn't me. It was a caring member there and all money was returned per my request when I got back and found out about that. I'm done re-living my past. Think what you like. I have a whole different life now that unfortunately produces enough struggles daily. So you can be happy about that if you think I stole from people.

That doesn't make me happy.

ETA:  

sorry ...this wasn't to make me happy.  My post was about the doubt that I have and/or others have with every post you make.  There are few here that will argue or not support those in need.  To break that trust ...is hurtful and demeaning to those supporting you.  

That's what I meant. 

 

[RokNRole]

Update.

i Just started drinking. I'm going to do my best to start posting some of my story. I got the idea last night because wanted to know the full truth about my past so I poured out a bunch of stuff I had suppressed. She thanked me and said it it explained a lot so I think it would be a good idea for me to post it on here. I just don't know if I can handle pouring that stuff out two nights in a row. I may have to postpone the first chapter a few days.

Ill try my best

 

[RokNRole]

I saw zima at 7-11. I almost bought it but I didn't know what to expect.

 

[jamny]

I got the joke, but I also have an odd sense of humor so I can't assume everyone did.

Koya's reaction made me think there was more truth to it than Rok made it seem in his retraction. Not that it was real but that it was a weird perception from Rok of what happened. It's understandable to me for Rok to have weird views of what is happening around him.

 

[RokNRole]

Koya's reaction made me think there was more truth to it than Rok made it seem in his retraction. Not that it was real but that it was a weird perception from Rok of what happened. It's understandable to me for Rok to have weird views of what is happening around him.

There was no truth to that joke. I expressed how I really felt about him soon after that post. I had a great time and I think he's a great guy.

 

[jamny]

There was no truth to that joke. I expressed how I really felt about him soon after that post. I had a great time and I think he's a great guy.

ok. I won't get into the details of it but I'm just going by his reaction to your comments.

 

[jamny]

Alright, so Rok (ugh, here I go getting involved again)

What is your goal for 6 months from now?

eta: how about a Christmas goal.

 

[CurlyNight]

That doesn't make me happy.

ETA:  

sorry ...this wasn't to make me happy.  My post was about the doubt that I have and/or others have with every post you make.  There are few here that will argue or not support those in need.  To break that trust ...is hurtful and demeaning to those supporting you.  

That's what I meant. 

I don't get what kind of doubt would be in the posts I've been making here. My posts for the longest time have been in the suicide thread or this one or the depression thread to try and support or hopefully help people with my take. It's my opinion, and I never claim to be knowing exactly what's going on with anyone, just like no one knows what's been going on with me unless they read my blog. I'm not even sure sometimes what's going on with me with the types of struggles I have in my new "normal" with this ####ty disease. We don't know each in real life so it's posts that we have. And we all have our takes on everything that is posted here or anywhere else. I'm all about being kind and trying to lose being defensive as it serves no purpose and depletes my energy to not be. If people can't see that, then that's the way it goes. I'm not out to get brownie points, I gain my energy to go on by trying to help or at least maybe get people to think twice before posting stuff when someone is obviously struggling. What is life if you aren't given a second chance at whatever mistakes you've made in the past or stuff that you didn't have control over. That's where my mind is these days when it's clear.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

I don't get what kind of doubt would be in the posts I've been making here. My posts for the longest time have been in the suicide thread or this one or the depression thread to try and support or hopefully help people with my take. It's my opinion, and I never claim to be knowing exactly what's going on with anyone, just like no one knows what's been going on with me unless they read my blog. I'm not even sure sometimes what's going on with me with the types of struggles I have in my new "normal" with this ####ty disease. We don't know each in real life so it's posts that we have. And we all have our takes on everything that is posted here or anywhere else. I'm all about being kind and trying to lose being defensive as it serves no purpose and depletes my energy to not be. If people can't see that, then that's the way it goes. I'm not out to get brownie points, I gain my energy to go on by trying to help or at least maybe get people to think twice before posting stuff when someone is obviously struggling. What is life if you aren't given a second chance at whatever mistakes you've made in the past or stuff that you didn't have control over. That's where my mind is these days when it's clear.

Stop.  Answer the or question don't.  

 

[RokNRole]

Alright, so Rok (ugh, here I go getting involved again)

What is your goal for 6 months from now?

eta: how about a Christmas goal.

I've been thinking a lot about starting work on my sci-fi novel. I'd like to have started it by then.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

First of all--please stop drinking Rok.  I truly mean that. Drinking is only going to impede your chances of success. 

Secondly--I want to touch on a subject that was being discussed in this thread over the past few pages.  I fully agree that the FBG can be a wonderful outlet because of the sense of community  it can provide.  However--let's not confuse this "cyber community" as being a replacement for professional help in regards to addictive behavior and possible mental illness.    If you look at everything that Rok is battling---  alcoholism, drugs, the seriousness of drunk driving, the craving for attention here in the cyber community while essentially disappearing in the real world--these all indicate that he puts himself in positions to avoid reality.   This is serious stuff. The reason why alcoholics drink alcohol and drug abusers use drugs is because it's their way of dealing with avoiding their real life issues and problems This is not healthy--and continuing on the path of ignoring reality generally ends up in a downward spiral where the results can be tragic.   This is why we all have to be careful in regards to how we treat this thread.  In a sense--we can be a guiding light and support group for a person that may have lost their way a bit.   In another sense--we easily could be the "altered" reality cyber community that Rok uses as a replacement for actual progression and reality.  We have to very careful not to enable him while clearly supporting him to get real life help.  

With that being said--Rok--please get help little by little.  If the first thing you do is attend an AA meeting--thats cool. Maybe you call around and find out if there are any mental health specialists  that can evaluate you for free.  You just need to start with a single step.  Good luck.  

 

[jamny]

I've been thinking a lot about starting work on my sci-fi novel. I'd like to have started it by then.

I was thinking more real life goals. Where do you want to be by the end of the year?

 

[CurlyNight]

I was thinking more real life goals. Where do you want to be by the end of the year?

I think for him he needs to make daily goals, step by step. Tomorrow I won't drink. Make a daily goal, a positive one, and work toward it. As you start knocking off the immediate issues then you can look farther ahead, but right now I think tomorrow should be the focus.

 

[RokNRole]

I was thinking more real life goals. Where do you want to be by the end of the year?

That is a life goal. If you mean social goals I'd like to either get back with my ex, depending where she moves, or be more financially stable and find a decent relationship elsewhere ( if that's possible). Of course I'd like to not be drinking as much as I am but right now I don't see myself doing it any time soon.