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So hungover this morning I accidently wore two different shoes (1 Viewer)

First of all--please stop drinking Rok.  I truly mean that. Drinking is only going to impede your chances of success. 

Secondly--I want to touch on a subject that was being discussed in this thread over the past few pages.  I fully agree that the FBG can be a wonderful outlet because of the sense of community  it can provide.  However--let's not confuse this "cyber community" as being a replacement for professional help in regards to addictive behavior and possible mental illness.    If you look at everything that Rok is battling---  alcoholism, drugs, the seriousness of drunk driving, the craving for attention here in the cyber community while essentially disappearing in the real world--these all indicate that he puts himself in positions to avoid reality.   This is serious stuff. The reason why alcoholics drink alcohol and drug abusers use drugs is because it's their way of dealing with avoiding their real life issues and problems This is not healthy--and continuing on the path of ignoring reality generally ends up in a downward spiral where the results can be tragic.   This is why we all have to be careful in regards to how we treat this thread.  In a sense--we can be a guiding light and support group for a person that may have lost their way a bit.   In another sense--we easily could be the "altered" reality cyber community that Rok uses as a replacement for actual progression and reality.  We have to very careful not to enable him while clearly supporting him to get real life help.  

With that being said--Rok--please get help little by little.  If the first thing you do is attend an AA meeting--thats cool. Maybe you call around and find out if there are any mental health specialists  that can evaluate you for free.  You just need to start with a single step.  Good luck.  
I'm trying dude . I'm thinking about it all a lot but just not finding the motivation. It's not that easy to just go to an AA meeting and listen or contact a clinic and apply for low cost or free mental healthcare. I just don't know what to do. I'm scared and just hiding away from the world when I'm not at work.

I haven't yet figured out the right option for me.

 
I think for him he needs to make daily goals, step by step. Tomorrow I won't drink. Make a daily goal, a positive one, and work toward it. As you start knocking off the immediate issues then you can look farther ahead, but right now I think tomorrow should be the focus.
OK, so sci-fi novel is cool.

 
That is a life goal. If you mean social goals I'd like to either get back with my ex, depending where she moves, or be more financially stable and find a decent relationship elsewhere ( if that's possible). Of course I'd like to not be drinking as much as I am but right now I don't see myself doing it any time soon.
You do realise that the drinking is as much or worse than other issues you are experiencing? That people fail to meet goals, make their lives for the better when they are drinking so much on top of not being treated? If you're not ready to stop drinking so much which really as people have stated already, should be the first step to the rest of your better life then there's nothing more we can say. We go round and round. You are making people exhausted by trying to get through to you and in some cases like me, trying to see things from your side as well when many others can't stemming from the past. All these things you write about as goals or hopes will not happen unless you get yourself straightened out first, and that is to stop with the alcohol and drugs, if you are using. Not one person becomes a success at anything until they've cleaned up. I think you need to check out those stats and if you still keep on doing what you are doing, then expect nothing to work out or work out for long. There is no escaping with alcohol. You're slowly killing yourself just from drinking so much. Is that what you want because that is what's happening with such high consumption.

 
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That is a life goal. If you mean social goals I'd like to either get back with my ex, depending where she moves, or be more financially stable and find a decent relationship elsewhere ( if that's possible). Of course I'd like to not be drinking as much as I am but right now I don't see myself doing it any time soon.
Do you really think you drink too much? To be honest, I drink way more than I should but I'm fine with it.

 
OK, so sci-fi novel is cool.
That's a goal I'm trying to set and achieve for myself. Try to write a page a day or something like that. Im obsessed with thinking about it, I have been for many years. Im writing it in my head I just haven't put it down on paper. In my head I can read it as clearly as if it were physically real.

 
Do you really think you drink too much? To be honest, I drink way more than I should but I'm fine with it.
Idk. I rarely go too far. Haven't had any total blackouts or anything. My waistline would indicate I'm drinking too much. I probably spend close to $100 a week on beer and cigarettes. When I don't drink I use my vape which costs pennies a day. When I drink I like real cigarettes. I usually drink about 10 beers a night and smoke and play hockey on Xbox. The only days I don't drink are when I'm so hungover I just sleep the whole day away.

I frequently go in to work hungover but once I start working and moving around I start to feel better. Despite how it seems I'm actually a really hard worker and I'm like greased lightning helping out my customers. I don't like to even make small mistakes and I rarely screw up at work.

 
OK, so sci-fi novel is cool.
That's a goal I'm trying to set and achieve for myself. Try to write a page a day or something like that. Im obsessed with thinking about it, I have been for many years. Im writing it in my head I just haven't put it down on paper. In my head I can read it as clearly as if it were physically real.
OK, I know that this may be a sensitive topic...I'm somewhat new to active posting here, thus, I don't like getting involved in things that I really don't understand too well.

Also, I don't enjoy giving advice, as I have made many mistakes in my life that I have not yet figured out.

But...in this one case, may I recommend a sci-fi thriller based upon the forces of overlord sentient plants allied with genius squirrels that want more nuts?

I see a Hollywood deal here....if done correctly. :)

 
I've established myself as the #2 server on the roster. Only one other person gets more shifts than me. A girl that worked the owners at other restaurants. She's the one that trained me.

 
OK, I know that this may be a sensitive topic...I'm somewhat new to active posting here, thus, I don't like getting involved in things that I really don't understand too well.

Also, I don't enjoy giving advice, as I have made many mistakes in my life that I have not yet figured out.

But...in this one case, may I recommend a sci-fi thriller based upon the forces of overlord sentient plants allied with genius squirrels that want more nuts?

I see a Hollywood deal here....if done correctly. :)
Did you hack my computer?

 
OK, I know that this may be a sensitive topic...I'm somewhat new to active posting here, thus, I don't like getting involved in things that I really don't understand too well.

Also, I don't enjoy giving advice, as I have made many mistakes in my life that I have not yet figured out.

But...in this one case, may I recommend a sci-fi thriller based upon the forces of overlord sentient plants allied with genius squirrels that want more nuts?

I see a Hollywood deal here....if done correctly. :)
If you are curious the best way I could describe my idea is catcher in the rye meets Independence Day. That's as much as I'm comfortable revealing.

 
I'm trying dude . I'm thinking about it all a lot but just not finding the motivation. It's not that easy to just go to an AA meeting and listen or contact a clinic and apply for low cost or free mental healthcare. I just don't know what to do. I'm scared and just hiding away from the world when I'm not at work.

I haven't yet figured out the right option for me.
I know its hard for you--because it's hard for anybody to confront their fears and/or problems.   This is a commonality that we all share.   With that being said--you have to put yourself in a position to move forward and not tread water.   You need to tackle these issues so that you can thrive in every facet of life.  You yourself admit that you have a drinking problem, dabble in drugs, and might have mental illness--so I give you this--why not stop thinking about doing tthings that you know will help you---and just do them?  Don't think about attending an AA meeting--just do it. Look up the closest one to you-and just frigging go.   If you are personally aware that your thought process is probably flawed (by possible mental illness along with alcohol and drug abuse)--don't put too much stock in your thought process.  Your mind might possibly be your biggest enemy--so be aware of this fact.  You know that you need help--do not allow your mind and thought process to get in the way of that.  We are all rooting for your success man.  Good luck and good night.  

 
Idk. I rarely go too far. Haven't had any total blackouts or anything. My waistline would indicate I'm drinking too much. I probably spend close to $100 a week on beer and cigarettes. When I don't drink I use my vape which costs pennies a day. When I drink I like real cigarettes. I usually drink about 10 beers a night and smoke and play hockey on Xbox. The only days I don't drink are when I'm so hungover I just sleep the whole day away.

I frequently go in to work hungover but once I start working and moving around I start to feel better. Despite how it seems I'm actually a really hard worker and I'm like greased lightning helping out my customers. I don't like to even make small mistakes and I rarely screw up at work.
See, I don't think you have a drinking problem. At least not more than many other people. Not me at least. But you're just plugging along without any direction or goals. I don't know why you don't utilize your artistic ability to work toward a goal.

 
I know its hard for you--because it's hard for anybody to confront their fears and/or problems.   This is a commonality that we all share.   With that being said--you have to put yourself in a position to move forward and not tread water.   You need to tackle these issues so that you can thrive in every facet of life.  You yourself admit that you have a drinking problem, dabble in drugs, and might have mental illness--so I give you this--why not stop thinking about doing tthings that you know will help you---and just do them?  Don't think about attending an AA meeting--just do it. Look up the closest one to you-and just frigging go.   If you are personally aware that your thought process is probably flawed (by possible mental illness along with alcohol and drug abuse)--don't put too much stock in your thought process.  Your mind might possibly be your biggest enemy--so be aware of this fact.  You know that you need help--do not allow your mind and thought process to get in the way of that.  We are all rooting for your success man.  Good luck and good night.  
Because it's not as simple as you are making it out to be. I've gone through countless different scenarios in my head regarding all this and I haven't figured enough out to feel comfortable taking the first step in any particular direction. As much as i post on here every day it's not my entire life. There are people and issues in my life not even related to my drinking or mental illness. There are so many factors and possibilities it makes my head spin.

Im extremely depressed so when I'm not working I'm hiding in my apartment because I'm afraid to go outside. Attending an AA meeting or a group therapy session is frightening even if I don't have to talk. It's not all cut and dry. I can't just want to get help, I have to be sure I'm ready to receive it or I'm just wasting mine and other people's time.

Does that make any sense?

 
See, I don't think you have a drinking problem. At least not more than many other people. Not me at least. But you're just plugging along without any direction or goals. I don't know why you don't utilize your artistic ability to work toward a goal.
It's not as easy as it seems to draw. That's a tremendous emotional endevour. My ex, who's also my best friend, encourages me to draw every day. The truth is im just not feeling any inspiration lately.

Just one of my drawings takes a full 1-3 days of focus. I just don't have that in me right now. If I start a drawing and lose focus I never come back and finish it. When I am inspired it comes in bursts where I produce a lot of work in a short period of time. I don't control when that happens. It just takes me over and I do it. Once it's done I'm left exhausted mentally.

When I'm drawing up to my maximum ability it's 8-12 hours a day with no breaks except to use the bathroom and eat. Once I see the picture in my head my goal is to complete it and I can't stop until I do. It's gratifying once it's done but the actual process is not entirely pleasant.

 
It's not as easy as it seems to draw. That's a tremendous emotional endevour. My ex, who's also my best friend, encourages me to draw every day. The truth is im just not feeling any inspiration lately.

Just one of my drawings takes a full 1-3 days of focus. I just don't have that in me right now. If I start a drawing and lose focus I never come back and finish it. When I am inspired it comes in bursts where I produce a lot of work in a short period of time. I don't control when that happens. It just takes me over and I do it. Once it's done I'm left exhausted mentally.

When I'm drawing up to my maximum ability it's 8-12 hours a day with no breaks except to use the bathroom and eat. Once I see the picture in my head my goal is to complete it and I can't stop until I do. It's gratifying once it's done but the actual process is not entirely pleasant.
Well you need to change that and make it a manageable process. Put a clock on yourself and draw 30 minutes a day and put the pen/pencil/brush down. Do it every day and see what happens. Don't waste talent! Your art is where your release is. It just won't happen today, tomorrow, next week or next year. It's years of hard work but something we all must do.

 
Because it's not as simple as you are making it out to be. I've gone through countless different scenarios in my head regarding all this and I haven't figured enough out to feel comfortable taking the first step in any particular direction. As much as i post on here every day it's not my entire life. There are people and issues in my life not even related to my drinking or mental illness. There are so many factors and possibilities it makes my head spin.

Im extremely depressed so when I'm not working I'm hiding in my apartment because I'm afraid to go outside. Attending an AA meeting or a group therapy session is frightening even if I don't have to talk. It's not all cut and dry. I can't just want to get help, I have to be sure I'm ready to receive it or I'm just wasting mine and other people's time.

Does that make any sense?
Of course it makes sense--and nobody is saying or implying that what you are going through is easy.  However--the hardest things are often the most rewarding.   The reason you drink, do drugs, and socialize here is because it is easy for you because you are fearful to succeed and overcome your problems.   In university--one of my professors quoted a line (and I cannot recollect who came up with it) that went "Fear is the thief of dreams"--and this is the exactly the case for you.  Your dreams are located just behind the professional help--and all you need to do is go down that path to get to them.    You just have to start somewhere and force yourself to do something that you know is good for you.  Start going down that path man--even if its one baby step at a time.  Nobody is saying to dive all in right off the bat.   Again--I will end this post the way I end most of mine to you--goodnight and good luck.  

 
Just look at my dongs. I would draw dozens of sketches in a few days until I burned out.
When I was in college , my friend and I would draw pics of dongs and then leave them on a bench outside the library. We would wait further back and see reactions. Good times.....

 
Well you need to change that and make it a manageable process. Put a clock on yourself and draw 30 minutes a day and put the pen/pencil/brush down. Do it every day and see what happens. Don't waste talent! Your art is where your release is. It just won't happen today, tomorrow, next week or next year. It's years of hard work but something we all must do.
It doesn't work that way. It's not my process. That's why I want to switch to being a writer. It seems more manageable .

 
Of course it makes sense--and nobody is saying or implying that what you are going through is easy.  However--the hardest things are often the most rewarding.   The reason you drink, do drugs, and socialize here is because it is easy for you because you are fearful to succeed and overcome your problems.   In university--one of my professors quoted a line (and I cannot recollect who came up with it) that went "Fear is the thief of dreams"--and this is the exactly the case for you.  Your dreams are located just behind the professional help--and all you need to do is go down that path to get to them.    You just have to start somewhere and force yourself to do something that you know is good for you.  Start going down that path man--even if its one baby step at a time.  Nobody is saying to dive all in right off the bat.   Again--I will end this post the way I end most of mine to you--goodnight and good luck.  
:goodposting:

I'm in my 50's, changed my career in my 40's and still struggle everyday to fight insecurities and doubt in my abilities to further myself in my passion. You just need to have that drive to succeed and accept failures without blaming others. Failure isn't bad, it makes you stronger., thickens your skin. Keep moving forward.

 
When I was in college , my friend and I would draw pics of dongs and then leave them on a bench outside the library. We would wait further back and see reactions. Good times.....
That's why I enjoyed doing it for the FFA. It was actually inspired by @Annyong. He posted a drawing of a trailer with a dong and it just clicked in me.

I can draw. Random dongs are funny. Drawing ability + random dongs = entertainment. I ran with it and I enjoyed making everyone laugh. I wanted to give everyone a dong. I got flooded with PM requests and I did my best to do one for everyone but I got overwhelmed and I started phoning it in. The quality of the dongs diminished and I got frustrated and tried to destroy all the work I did. I regret it now and I'm glad some people saved some of them.

I wanted to make everyone dong happy and I got burnt out.

 
Because it's not as simple as you are making it out to be. I've gone through countless different scenarios in my head regarding all this and I haven't figured enough out to feel comfortable taking the first step in any particular direction. As much as i post on here every day it's not my entire life. There are people and issues in my life not even related to my drinking or mental illness. There are so many factors and possibilities it makes my head spin.

Im extremely depressed so when I'm not working I'm hiding in my apartment because I'm afraid to go outside. Attending an AA meeting or a group therapy session is frightening even if I don't have to talk. It's not all cut and dry. I can't just want to get help, I have to be sure I'm ready to receive it or I'm just wasting mine and other people's time.

Does that make any sense?
Unfortunately, for me, this does make sense.

However, in my history, "making sense" did not equate to a healthy path forward for me. For example, I really do understand...I think...at least as far as empathy will take one. Also, from what you have posted, I think you know this as well.

It is easy to give wise advice...it is easy to see issues...however, it is not always easy to act upon those things. That is understandable. Thus, to keep bashing the point home, while well intended, is not really addressing the problem, imo.

The question is not about what needs to be done...rather, it is about how can it be done.

In my own life, I have found that I had to find my own way. It has worked for me. For all of my sarcasm and over the top gonzo here in the  FFA, I have finally found a healthy balance. I had to find my own way...BUT...a major part of finding my way came from the advice from others...even if I did not take it 100% literal. 

In this light, I don't really know what to recommend, other than taking the needs you have seriously. Find a way to find the "how to make the leap" into the recovery path. I think you want this...but I also know that us telling you "what" to do is not the same as "how" to do it.

Thus, I don't have your answer...but I have found my answer. If you think that anything I have learned may be helpful to you...ask. But, I am not the kind to get into the debates about such things.

Us loons have to do or die....very true....I nearly died...and that is more than any ego trip on a message board.

 
Unfortunately, for me, this does make sense.

However, in my history, "making sense" did not equate to a healthy path forward for me. For example, I really do understand...I think...at least as far as empathy will take one. Also, from what you have posted, I think you know this as well.

It is easy to give wise advice...it is easy to see issues...however, it is not always easy to act upon those things. That is understandable. Thus, to keep bashing the point home, while well intended, is not really addressing the problem, imo.

The question is not about what needs to be done...rather, it is about how can it be done.

In my own life, I have found that I had to find my own way. It has worked for me. For all of my sarcasm and over the top gonzo here in the  FFA, I have finally found a healthy balance. I had to find my own way...BUT...a major part of finding my way came from the advice from others...even if I did not take it 100% literal. 

In this light, I don't really know what to recommend, other than taking the needs you have seriously. Find a way to find the "how to make the leap" into the recovery path. I think you want this...but I also know that us telling you "what" to do is not the same as "how" to do it.

Thus, I don't have your answer...but I have found my answer. If you think that anything I have learned may be helpful to you...ask. But, I am not the kind to get into the debates about such things.

Us loons have to do or die....very true....I nearly died...and that is more than any ego trip on a message board.
It's a lot of pressure hearing " go to an AA meeting" every day. I'm trying to digest the entire idea but the more I get hounded by it the more averse I get to it. I appreciate the help everyone is offering but I can't just wake up and feel " I'm going to a meeting today". If I do it I have to do it when I'm ready.

It makes me angry hearing the same suggestion every day when I've barely had any time to think about it. I need to think about it, be prepared to handle several different possible scenarios, and finally be confident to do it. I'm not there yet and I know that which is why I haven't gone.

Just getting up and going to work every day is hard enough. If I'm really as bad as I think I am then recovery will be another full time job. If I go in to it without being ready to change it won't count for anything. 

 
Yeah but set yourself up in what you're good at so you can pursue the other things. Don't throw away money.
I can be a good writer too. I actually am a good writer. I used to write short fantasy stories for class in school and would blow my teachers minds, some of them were actually published writers and they told me they never saw this kind of writing from a child.

Visual art isn't that different from writing. It's all about creating an idea and a visual representation of that idea. Even a drawing is not finite. My interpretation of a scene, even if clearly laid out, it not necessarily correct. To the reader it can just be a jumping off point. It's actually almost the same thing when you break it down.

A picture is worth a thousand words.

 
It's a lot of pressure hearing " go to an AA meeting" every day. I'm trying to digest the entire idea but the more I get hounded by it the more averse I get to it. I appreciate the help everyone is offering but I can't just wake up and feel " I'm going to a meeting today". If I do it I have to do it when I'm ready.

It makes me angry hearing the same suggestion every day when I've barely had any time to think about it. I need to think about it, be prepared to handle several different possible scenarios, and finally be confident to do it. I'm not there yet and I know that which is why I haven't gone.

Just getting up and going to work every day is hard enough. If I'm really as bad as I think I am then recovery will be another full time job. If I go in to it without being ready to change it won't count for anything. 
For myself, entering group Cognitive Behavioral Therapy was one of the scariest things I ever did. I was not ready...but I had no choice. I resisted...I fought...but...after about 4 months, I began to understand. I found that the people there were not there to attack me, rather, they were me...in a certain sense. They understood me better than any doctor or therapist that I had ever encountered....because they were going thru what I was gong thru. However, the Doc/Therapist does matter. They are the moderators and guides. I experienced some REALLY sucky ones. It may take time to click...and with limited resources, this can be tough, but it is not impossible. 

This does not mean that I think my path is yours. Rather, it means that no one is ever "ready" to go the path of recovery....but...it must be done.

 
For myself, entering group Cognitive Behavioral Therapy was one of the scariest things I ever did. I was not ready...but I had no choice. I resisted...I fought...but...after about 4 months, I began to understand. I found that the people there were not there to attack me, rather, they were me...in a certain sense. They understood me better than any doctor or therapist that I had ever encountered....because they were going thru what I was gong thru. However, the Doc/Therapist does matter. They are the moderators and guides. I experienced some REALLY sucky ones. It may take time to click...and with limited resources, this can be tough, but it is not impossible. 

This does not mean that I think my path is yours. Rather, it means that no one is ever "ready" to go the path of recovery....but...it must be done.
100% ready....of course not.

Im not ready really face what I have to. I only admitted to myself a couple weeks ago that I have a problem. I'm still coming to grips with that. I'm not ready to sit in a meeting and listen. I don't feel like I'm in a place to be respectful enough to the people there to do it. 

Ive already been to AA meeting. I went to 21 days of inpatient rehab for housing. We had 4-5 AA meetings a day and the majority of the time I didn't listen. Some of them actually yelled at me during the meetings because I either fell asleep or was reading a book. At that time I was over 30 days sober because I was smoking crack daily but I ran out of money and it's not in my nature to turn to crime to fuel my habit. I just stopped going to work and I detoxes at home by myself. It took about a week of sleep and I lost my job so I went to rehab to get housing, otherwise I would have been on the street.

Now, I'm more mature and functional and able to abuse alcohol and still produce at work. I'm not happy with where I am but I am not going in to recovery barely half convinced I'm ready for it. 

 
CurlyNight said:
This isn't bullying? Piling on someone who is obviously disturbed because this disturbed individual was mean to someone who as far as we can tell, can handle it? There are cliques on this board. The most obvious one is the GM's thread about nothing which is like the sanctuary is to fft but on the same board. If people don't like feeling like they are trash or whatnot, leave the damn thread. I don't get this manly stuff of defending your honour here in such a thread like this. :dunno:
You bully anyone that doesn't agree with you by asking them not to post and put him on ignore.  Why can't you just ignore their posts?

 
It's a lot of pressure hearing " go to an AA meeting" every day. I'm trying to digest the entire idea but the more I get hounded by it the more averse I get to it. I appreciate the help everyone is offering but I can't just wake up and feel " I'm going to a meeting today". If I do it I have to do it when I'm ready.

It makes me angry hearing the same suggestion every day when I've barely had any time to think about it. I need to think about it, be prepared to handle several different possible scenarios, and finally be confident to do it. I'm not there yet and I know that which is why I haven't gone.

Just getting up and going to work every day is hard enough. If I'm really as bad as I think I am then recovery will be another full time job. If I go in to it without being ready to change it won't count for anything. 
that's all an excuse to not ever go.  what a load of crap.  No one is ever ready to go to an initial AA meeting. 

 
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This is why I don't like you getzloaf
there is no perfect time to get help.  You just go and get it. It sucks big time at first but then the help starts to work and then you soften up and embrace the change and great things happen. Quit the bs act and go.  

 
Getzlaff is right though man. All of your posts are either you saying why you need help or you saying why you can't get help.  Take control of your life. It's hard and it's scary but it's big boy time if you want a fulfilling life. You have avenues to help, even if it's not the help you think you need it's the first steps towards it, and you have nothing but excuses as to why you can't do it. 

Make a choice. Be a man, and deal with your life even if you have to start far from where you want to be, or keep making excuses, don't do anything, and be miserable for your probably short life. 

Take control. Be a man. Be a grown up. Do something instead of finding reasons not to. 

 
there is no perfect time to get help.  You just go and get it. It sucks big time at first but then the help starts to work and then you soften up and embrace the change and great things happen. Quit the bs act and go.  
You think I don't tell myself that every day? I do.

The only difference is when I think about if another person came to me for advice. I am hard on myself but I would not be hard on them and say things like " just be a man".

I am a man. I am emotionally weak but I'm not a pushover. I know very well it's not the way to relate to people by pressuring them to conform to a narrow template of manhood. If the #### hit the fan I wouldn't just curl up and die. I will fight and I have fought.

Ive learned one thing in my time on this planet. I know that no real man pressures another to conform to his ideals. My own father did that and I beat the his ### on several occasions and realized he's not a man just because he's wrapped up in his own world. You are not a man.

 
Getzlaff is right though man. All of your posts are either you saying why you need help or you saying why you can't get help.  Take control of your life. It's hard and it's scary but it's big boy time if you want a fulfilling life. You have avenues to help, even if it's not the help you think you need it's the first steps towards it, and you have nothing but excuses as to why you can't do it. 

Make a choice. Be a man, and deal with your life even if you have to start far from where you want to be, or keep making excuses, don't do anything, and be miserable for your probably short life. 

Take control. Be a man. Be a grown up. Do something instead of finding reasons not to. 
Why don't you grow some balls?

 
It's 1am on a Saturday . I'm sure the beers have been flowing and the real men are coming out of the woodwork lol.

Be a man. Man up. Just do it. It's like a bunch of ######s that live their life according to ad slogans.

The real men here are the ones with compassion, understanding and wisdom. There are too many to name but we all know who they are. The real measure of a man isn't just to buck up and do it.

A real man looks inside himself and despite all of societies pressures lets himself have feelings and be kind. A real man allows himself to be a good person. All you " be a man" types are just fruitcakes that are as soft as cotton candy. Get lost with you nonsense and take a look at yourself and the world around you.

 
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