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So is Kiffin just waiting for C-Pepp to learn the offense? (1 Viewer)
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Here is my take on this situation and it's just speculation. I think Kiffin was not for CPepp joing the team to begin with. There was a stink he made about the players that were on his team and who he had to keep...not sure he wanted CPepp on the 53 man roster. He wants Russell but he unfortunately couldn't get signed, another bone for him to pick with ownership. I think McCown was simply a stop gap and he hoped to have Russell out there by week 4 or 5 at the latest...an now he might not get out till very late in the season as he has missed all of training camp. Not to mention the Raiders have had a chance to win both of their 1st couple of games.
If CPepp gets on the field and actually plays well, it might be a set back for Russell to make it out there and I think Kiffin wants to stay away form that. mcCown should not have been playing last week and he did anyways. DC should have at least been inserted in the 2nd quarter after a horrendous start by McCown.
You can disagree with all of this but I think at least part of this is true.
If CPepp gets on the field and actually plays well, it might be a set back for Russell to make it out there and I think Kiffin wants to stay away form that. mcCown should not have been playing last week and he did anyways. DC should have at least been inserted in the 2nd quarter after a horrendous start by McCown.
You can disagree with all of this but I think at least part of this is true.
gman8343
What would Lemmy do?
MOP, I think I agree with you. IMO Culp clearly outplayed McCown in the preseason, and it wasn't very close. I was fairly shocked when he didn't go with Culp for the opener, and now it seems like Kiffin is just being stubborn about the situation. I'm not the biggest Culpepper fan but he moved the ball well in the preseason and was able to put it into the end zone, something McCown couldn't do. I'm wondering what happens if McCown stinks it up this week - they'll be a lot of pressure to make the switch.
Despyzer
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This flies in the face with what a lot of Raiders faithful say about Kiffin really being in charge. I'm not picking a side because I have absolutely no idea, but I just thought I'd point it out.
circelli17
Footballguy
Considering how pathetic McCown looked in the first half on Sunday (3 INTs and roughly 80 yards) and the fact that the team still wouldn't bench him in favor of Culpepper I personally plan on cutting Daunte this week 
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Despyzer
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Not literally, I hope.
red93zj
Footballguy
I think a lot of it has to do with the power struggle between Kiffin and Davis. Davis really want Culpepper to start, but Kiffin is starting McCown to show that he is in charge and not Davis. This all stems from the fact that Davis cut Quinton Moses and this upset Kiffin. I think Kiffin knows that once Daunte starts there will be no chance of benching him IMO.
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ThePittbully
Footballguy
I think he's just waiting for people to stop calling him C-Pepp
saintfool
Dead sexy
Well, Pepp-C is a trademarked brand name...
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Right and I think Kiffin really wants to establish the same, so until he gets his props, JMac is the starter.Seriously, I appreciate all the speculation and fabricated intrigue, but I think it and Kiffin are far more simple than that. He likes McCown. In practice McCown has been better. Daunte has looked better in vanilla preseason, but he fumbled snaps, struggled with the playbook, showed up late and is still playing catch up. There's nothing more to it than that. Pete Carrol crushes even the hint of a QB controversy. It happened with Leinart and Booty a few years ago and when they went with Leinart that was it. Period. End of discussion. Carroll once said even acknowledging the question could cast doubt in the mind of his chosen leader, so next question. Kiffin may have a bit of that in him. It's not as cut and dry and they are losing which didn't happen at SC, so change makes more sense, but psychologically, he's going to stick with his guy and treat him as a valued leader.
Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
I've heard his dad has started calling him "AD."
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
Culpepper: 26/47 (55%), 4 TDs, 1 INT, 2 sacks, 95.0 ratingMcCown: 24/47 (51%), 1 TD, 1 INT, 3 sacks, 75.8 rating
Loan Sharks
Not a Wolf
Exactly, 4 times the point production, I would also say that in the drives that Duante led they got field goals far more than with McCown I think the scoring drives that Duante had over McCown was even higher than the 4-1 Td ratio.
-jb-
Footballguy
Pat Kirwan was just on The Drive and said he saw Culpepper "gimping around" no more than two weeks ago. I don't think he's as healthy as we all want him to be. He asked Kiffin about starting Culpepper, and Lane commented that McCown has a better rollout, which is allegedly a big ingredient of this offense.
$0.02, not my words, just relaying the message.
$0.02, not my words, just relaying the message.
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
I think that Russell is thrown to the wolves as soon as the team is 4 games under .500.
Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
Week 5 seems a bit early.
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