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So is Royal > Marshall at this point? (1 Viewer)

tombonneau

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I don't think anyone would argue just yet that Royal is the better NFL WR, but based on the last 3 games of production, it would appear that Royal is becoming the better FF play. Based on my viewings, teams are rolling coverage over pretty hard to Marshall, and he's having trouble beating double coverage, and when he does he is not making plays.

Meanwhile, Royal has been eating up his one-on-one coverage and is benefiting immensely from all the attention Marshall is getting from defenses.

As a Marshall owner, I hate to see it, but watching Denver games, Royal is clearly looking more & more like the WR to own.

Denver homers care to chime in here?

 
Denver homer and Marshall owner here:

Brandon is getting the targets, he's all of a sudden alligator arming passes and he's battling with some uncharacteristic drops. Jay is also struggling to find the time/angle to get the ball to Brandon in tight coverage. I still like Brandon over Royal for the rest of the year. As good as Eddie is, he's not a seasoned route runner - so it's scary to think, but Eddie could be MUCH better in the near future.

We should've kept Hixon, but I like the way we've drafted WRs recently.

If only we could run the ball, then that would only help open things up for the passing game.

 
Marshall is still getting a ton of targets if he starts catching the balls again I would think Royal's numbers would dip. Of course that is dependant on Marshall not dropping the ball.

 
I still prefer Marshall going forward but week in week out I am amazed by how good Royal is at this stage of his career.

I think it's safe to say that both of them will be forces for a long time. Team's are eventually going to have to pick their poison and choose which of the two to try to take out of the game, because clearly selling out to take Marshall out is allowing Eddie to burn them on the other side.

 
Royal is the better fantasy option it seems, but Marshall finally scored tonight which is promising. If I had both on my team I still could not bench Marshall for Royal. I think Marshall will be more consistent from here on out but Royal is the one to have for the blow up games like tonight, but that is very unpredictable.

 
I don't think anyone would argue just yet that Royal is the better NFL WR, but based on the last 3 games of production, it would appear that Royal is becoming the better FF play. Based on my viewings, teams are rolling coverage over pretty hard to Marshall, and he's having trouble beating double coverage, and when he does he is not making plays.Meanwhile, Royal has been eating up his one-on-one coverage and is benefiting immensely from all the attention Marshall is getting from defenses.As a Marshall owner, I hate to see it, but watching Denver games, Royal is clearly looking more & more like the WR to own.Denver homers care to chime in here?
What would a homer know that you wouldn't? Just curious
 
I've been very impressed by Royal and what he is doing as a rookie is incredible. But I don't think he's even close to being in Marshall's league yet. 3 games does not a season make.

As said earlier, defenses have been selling out completely to stop Marshall and its been kind of working a little(though if not for that very iffy call against Miami, Marshall's last 3 games wouldn't look too shabby) but teams have to adjust now that other weapons are there. Royal is back healthy and having Scheffler seems to make a huge impact on this offense. When all 3 are in the lineup its tough for teams to double Marshall all the time.

Bottom line, now that everyone is healthy I expect a return to early season numbers in Denver. I fully expect Cutler to be a top-5 QB, Marshall a top-5 WR, Royal a top-15 WR and Scheffler a top-5 TE. Between their lack of RB's and lack of defense, I don't view these as unrealistic expectations.

Again, I've been impressed by Royal, but I see no reason to think he'll outproduce Marshall this season, or in any upcoming season. However, I could see them having a Moss/Welker like effect on each other.

 
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I think it's safe to say that both of them will be forces for a long time. Team's are eventually going to have to pick their poison and choose which of the two to try to take out of the game, because clearly selling out to take Marshall out is allowing Eddie to burn them on the other side.
I agree with this take. They both bring different skills to the table and they're both going to have their fair share of monster weeks. Marshall has more upside because he's a bigger target in the red zone, but Eddie is a high character prospect and a fantastic buy or hold in PPR dynasty. He should be very good for a long time.
 
Just the facts:

After 9 games where Marshall and Royal have each played 8:

1 pt per 10 yards and 6 pts per TD

Marshall: 86 pts.....57 cathes 714 yards 4 TDs

Royal: 84 pts....52 catches 625 yards 4 TDs

Pretty amazing year for Royal so far.

 
A lot of results-oriented thinking in here.

Royal is better than Marshall based on a 2 game sample size? (it was 77-71 Marshall 3 games ago). Cmon.

And that 2 game sample includes an unlikely 98 yard TD for Royal, and more targets for Marshall.

Get real, Royal is the real deal but he is no Brandon Marshall.

 
Am I the only one who hates seeing Royal in on kickoff and punt returns? It's just injuries waiting to happen.

At some point, I hope Shanahan realizes that royal's too valuable on offense to put him at risk so many times per game.

Brian Westbrook is the Eagles best kick returner, but Reid only plays him on special teams in emergencies. Way too much risk.

 
Despite being a rookie, Royal is near his ceiling right now. He came in as an extremely slick WR. Like a seasoned veteran, really (which is a credit to him). Marshall came in fairly raw, but with an enormous amount of natural ability. I believe Brandon Marshall is the most gifted WR in the NFL. The thing about Marshall is he's not even close to his ceiling.

Comparing them FF-wise, Marshall will probably always have more receptions, yards, & TDs. A healthy Scheffler may hurt Royal's FF value a little, as well. If I had to put numbers on it (PPR), I'd say Marshall will be a consensus top-5 WR (with a decent chance to be #1 several times during his career) & Royal could be as high as a consensus top 12-15 WR most seasons. I do believe Royal will drop off his current pace somewhat the rest of the way, tho. In non-PPR leagues, the difference between them is greater (because of the liklehood of Marshall scoring more TDs).

 
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Despite being a rookie, Royal is near his ceiling right now. He came in as an extremely slick WR. Like a seasoned veteran, really (which is a credit to him). Marshall came in fairly raw, but with an enormous amount of natural ability. I believe he's the most gifted WR in the NFL. The thing about Marshall is he's not even close to his ceiling.
:whistle: Rookie receivers are never near their ceiling. The old adage is that it takes three NFL seasons to get near their peak.

While I agree with you on your marshall points, I see Royal's ceiling as being a Steve Smith-type. Remember, the kid's played nine games.

Now, I'm not predicting that Royal will be as good as Smith, but to suggest that he couldn't be, after the start he's had, is silly.

 
Despite being a rookie, Royal is near his ceiling right now. He came in as an extremely slick WR. Like a seasoned veteran, really (which is a credit to him). Marshall came in fairly raw, but with an enormous amount of natural ability. I believe he's the most gifted WR in the NFL. The thing about Marshall is he's not even close to his ceiling.
:whistle: Rookie receivers are never near their ceiling. The old adage is that it takes three NFL seasons to get near their peak.

While I agree with you on your marshall points, I see Royal's ceiling as being a Steve Smith-type. Remember, the kid's played nine games.

Now, I'm not predicting that Royal will be as good as Smith, but to suggest that he couldn't be, after the start he's had, is silly.
The difference between Royal & Steve Smith their rookie years is like night & day. Royal is the rare rookie WR who can excel right out of the box. It may sound like I'm knocking Royal, but I'm not. I just believe he got on the wrong team as far as FF goes, LOL (to be a #1). Marshall has HOF ability, IMO. Put it this way...they're both outstanding WRs, but I'm simply disagreeing with the OP (I believe Marshall will always be the guy you want).Who's to say Royal or Marshall won't leave, tho (eventually)? I do think Royal could be a consensus top-10 WR on another team. However, he's not nearly as strong as Smith, & he's not as dynamic, either. Not sure about that comparison, but Eddie Royal can play.

 
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I own Marshall, Royal, and Reggie Wayne. If there has to be an odd man out, I hate to say it, but it is going to be Royal. Had both in last night though.

 
Just the facts:After 9 games where Marshall and Royal have each played 8:1 pt per 10 yards and 6 pts per TDMarshall: 86 pts.....57 cathes 714 yards 4 TDsRoyal: 84 pts....52 catches 625 yards 4 TDsPretty amazing year for Royal so far.
Hmmmmm. Could we see two 1000 yard WRs in Denver this year?
 
I've been very impressed by Royal and what he is doing as a rookie is incredible. But I don't think he's even close to being in Marshall's league yet. 3 games does not a season make. As said earlier, defenses have been selling out completely to stop Marshall and its been kind of working a little(though if not for that very iffy call against Miami, Marshall's last 3 games wouldn't look too shabby) but teams have to adjust now that other weapons are there. Royal is back healthy and having Scheffler seems to make a huge impact on this offense. When all 3 are in the lineup its tough for teams to double Marshall all the time.Bottom line, now that everyone is healthy I expect a return to early season numbers in Denver. I fully expect Cutler to be a top-5 QB, Marshall a top-5 WR, Royal a top-15 WR and Scheffler a top-5 TE. Between their lack of RB's and lack of defense, I don't view these as unrealistic expectations. Again, I've been impressed by Royal, but I see no reason to think he'll outproduce Marshall this season, or in any upcoming season. However, I could see them having a Moss/Welker like effect on each other.
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Royal is a talent. This kind of reminds me of Greg Jennings rookie season. You could see how explosive he was and talent generally means production. Is he going to be better than Marshall? Probably because Marshall is a head case. But it will be more like a 1a and 1b type of thing and anyone that has the opportunity to choose between the two will probably be wrong 50% of the time. They also have different skill sets. Sort of like Moss and Welker but with a smaller talent gap. Marshall isn't as good as Moss, but Royal is probably going to be better than Welker at some point.

 
Despite being a rookie, Royal is near his ceiling right now. He came in as an extremely slick WR. Like a seasoned veteran, really (which is a credit to him). Marshall came in fairly raw, but with an enormous amount of natural ability. I believe he's the most gifted WR in the NFL. The thing about Marshall is he's not even close to his ceiling.
:goodposting: Rookie receivers are never near their ceiling. The old adage is that it takes three NFL seasons to get near their peak.

While I agree with you on your marshall points, I see Royal's ceiling as being a Steve Smith-type. Remember, the kid's played nine games.

Now, I'm not predicting that Royal will be as good as Smith, but to suggest that he couldn't be, after the start he's had, is silly.
The difference between Royal & Steve Smith their rookie years is like night & day. Royal is the rare rookie WR who can excel right out of the box. It may sound like I'm knocking Royal, but I'm not. I just believe he got on the wrong team as far as FF goes, LOL (to be a #1). Marshall has HOF ability, IMO. Put it this way...they're both outstanding WRs, but I'm simply disagreeing with the OP (I believe Marshall will always be the guy you want).Who's to say Royal or Marshall won't leave, tho (eventually)? I do think Royal could be a consensus top-10 WR on another team. However, he's not nearly as strong as Smith, & he's not as dynamic, either. Not sure about that comparison, but Eddie Royal can play.
I agree that Marshall is the better FF WR, but Eddie Royal is STRONG. If I am not mistaken, he bench pressed more than any WR at the combine, and more than most of the Linebackers. He is a beast in the weight room.
 
Despite being a rookie, Royal is near his ceiling right now. He came in as an extremely slick WR. Like a seasoned veteran, really (which is a credit to him). Marshall came in fairly raw, but with an enormous amount of natural ability. I believe he's the most gifted WR in the NFL. The thing about Marshall is he's not even close to his ceiling.
:goodposting: Rookie receivers are never near their ceiling. The old adage is that it takes three NFL seasons to get near their peak.

While I agree with you on your marshall points, I see Royal's ceiling as being a Steve Smith-type. Remember, the kid's played nine games.

Now, I'm not predicting that Royal will be as good as Smith, but to suggest that he couldn't be, after the start he's had, is silly.
The difference between Royal & Steve Smith their rookie years is like night & day. Royal is the rare rookie WR who can excel right out of the box. It may sound like I'm knocking Royal, but I'm not. I just believe he got on the wrong team as far as FF goes, LOL (to be a #1). Marshall has HOF ability, IMO. Put it this way...they're both outstanding WRs, but I'm simply disagreeing with the OP (I believe Marshall will always be the guy you want).Who's to say Royal or Marshall won't leave, tho (eventually)? I do think Royal could be a consensus top-10 WR on another team. However, he's not nearly as strong as Smith, & he's not as dynamic, either. Not sure about that comparison, but Eddie Royal can play.
I agree that Marshall is the better FF WR, but Eddie Royal is STRONG. If I am not mistaken, he bench pressed more than any WR at the combine, and more than most of the Linebackers. He is a beast in the weight room.
You are correct. He bench pressed 225 lbs 24 times. He also ran a 4.38 40 yd. dash and had a 36 inch verticle. He is a freakish athlete.
 
Simple answer would be no. Marshall still gets the majority of the targets, he just has to get his head in the game and needs a good kick in the rear. He actually seemed humble for himself when he blamed himself in the post game interview for Cutlers int. I think Porter got in his head last week and he let it carry over.

Royal benefits from getting the other teams #2 DB, but make no mistake, Marshall is the stud and focus of the offense.

 
Chase Stuart said:
gianmarco said:
JuniorNB said:
Rookie receivers are never near their ceiling. The old adage is that it takes three NFL seasons to get near their peak.
Unless your name is Michael Clayton.
Or Terry Glenn.
In addition to those two, here's a full list of guys since the merger that had at least moderately productive rookie years and peaked career-wise as a rookie:Bill BrooksRandy VatahaShawn CollinsBobby L. JohnsonLawrence DawseyHart Lee DykesTroy EdwardsKeary ColbertKen BurrowSylvester Morris
 
I think Eddie Royal may become the more dependable option over Marshall. It's not a talent issue as both Marshall and Royal are stacked in that department. It's more of a coverage issue as opposing defenses continue to treat Marshall as the key focal point for their coverage. This continues to give Royal a bit more room to operate and perhaps offer Cutler a more possession-friendly target. Bottom line; we're splitting hairs here because both Royal and Marshall are going to be elite options for years to come.

Royal definitely reminds me of a young Marvin Harrison. Marvin in his prime (he's a shadow of his former self now) was a tremendously precise route-runner who used his exceptional body-control (especially his hip movement) to corkscrew opposing DBs. This is exactly what I see from Eddie Royal, and it's a rare gift.

 
DrJamesAndrews said:
As a Brandon owner, I would not trade him for Royal.
I have them both and started them both last night. :thumbup: :lol: With Cutler and Torain :eek:
I hope you were dancing around in your underwear because that was Risky Business.I had Cutler, Torain, and Marshall going and I was pretty nervous going into the 4th quarter.
You're not kidding.Right before the 93 yard TD, I was ready to delete my team from the league I was so mad how things were going and I'm the commish
 
This is how I see it:

Royal has an incredible opportunity playing opposite one of the most dynamic receivers in the game. Marshall demands double coverage almost all of the time. To say he is better than Marshall is at the very least silly and at the very worst, just stupid. Royal simply cannot do the things that Marshall can do.

I'm not one to take away stats, but 1 catch 93 yards and the TD last night occured because of a severly blown defensive coverage by the Browns. The cornerback knew before the snap that his safety was out of position and was calling for him to recover as soon as he saw the Broncos TE stay in for a blocking assignment. Even when the corner seemed to recover he made a stupid jump play to try and deflect the ball. Not smart.

Royals stats would have been 5 for about 70 last night without that play.

Edit to add: Royal could not do the things Marshall does if he was demanding the coverage that marshall receives. He is too little, runs horrid routes, his yac would suck, and he has no size to man up physical corners. Even with all of the coverage, Marshall still managed 6-89-1. That's impressive.

 
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This is how I see it:Royal has an incredible opportunity playing opposite one of the most dynamic receivers in the game. Marshall demands double coverage almost all of the time. To say he is better than Marshall is at the very least silly and at the very worst, just stupid. Royal simply cannot do the things that Marshall can do. I'm not one to take away stats, but 1 catch 93 yards and the TD last night occured because of a severly blown defensive coverage by the Browns. The cornerback knew before the snap that his safety was out of position and was calling for him to recover as soon as he saw the Broncos TE stay in for a blocking assignment. Even when the corner seemed to recover he made a stupid jump play to try and deflect the ball. Not smart. Royals stats would have been 5 for about 70 last night without that play.Edit to add: Royal could not do the things Marshall does if he was demanding the coverage that marshall receives. He is too little, runs horrid routes, his yac would suck, and he has no size to man up physical corners. Even with all of the coverage, Marshall still managed 6-89-1. That's impressive.
Does anyone realize how mediocre Barry Sanders was without his long touchdown runs?
 
Royal definitely reminds me of a young Marvin Harrison. Marvin in his prime (he's a shadow of his former self now) was a tremendously precise route-runner who used his exceptional body-control (especially his hip movement) to corkscrew opposing DBs. This is exactly what I see from Eddie Royal, and it's a rare gift.
Royal could not do the things Marshall does if he was demanding the coverage that marshall receives. He is too little, runs horrid routes, his yac would suck, and he has no size to man up physical corners. Even with all of the coverage, Marshall still managed 6-89-1. That's impressive.
GB the Shark Pool. :tfp:
 
This is how I see it:Royal has an incredible opportunity playing opposite one of the most dynamic receivers in the game. Marshall demands double coverage almost all of the time. To say he is better than Marshall is at the very least silly and at the very worst, just stupid. Royal simply cannot do the things that Marshall can do. I'm not one to take away stats, but 1 catch 93 yards and the TD last night occured because of a severly blown defensive coverage by the Browns. The cornerback knew before the snap that his safety was out of position and was calling for him to recover as soon as he saw the Broncos TE stay in for a blocking assignment. Even when the corner seemed to recover he made a stupid jump play to try and deflect the ball. Not smart. Royals stats would have been 5 for about 70 last night without that play.Edit to add: Royal could not do the things Marshall does if he was demanding the coverage that marshall receives. He is too little, runs horrid routes, his yac would suck, and he has no size to man up physical corners. Even with all of the coverage, Marshall still managed 6-89-1. That's impressive.
Does anyone realize how mediocre Barry Sanders was without his long touchdown runs?
It's completely different first of all and secondly I wrote that i am not taking it away. However, if you watched the game you would realize what i am saying.
 
Royal definitely reminds me of a young Marvin Harrison. Marvin in his prime (he's a shadow of his former self now) was a tremendously precise route-runner who used his exceptional body-control (especially his hip movement) to corkscrew opposing DBs. This is exactly what I see from Eddie Royal, and it's a rare gift.
Royal could not do the things Marshall does if he was demanding the coverage that marshall receives. He is too little, runs horrid routes, his yac would suck, and he has no size to man up physical corners. Even with all of the coverage, Marshall still managed 6-89-1. That's impressive.
GB the Shark Pool. :hophead:
I said horrid, but i admit he will get better with experience and more play.
 
This is how I see it:

Royal has an incredible opportunity playing opposite one of the most dynamic receivers in the game. Marshall demands double coverage almost all of the time. To say he is better than Marshall is at the very least silly and at the very worst, just stupid. Royal simply cannot do the things that Marshall can do.

I'm not one to take away stats, but 1 catch 93 yards and the TD last night occured because of a severly blown defensive coverage by the Browns. The cornerback knew before the snap that his safety was out of position and was calling for him to recover as soon as he saw the Broncos TE stay in for a blocking assignment. Even when the corner seemed to recover he made a stupid jump play to try and deflect the ball. Not smart.

Royals stats would have been 5 for about 70 last night without that play.

Edit to add: Royal could not do the things Marshall does if he was demanding the coverage that marshall receives. He is too little, runs horrid routes, his yac would suck, and he has no size to man up physical corners. Even with all of the coverage, Marshall still managed 6-89-1. That's impressive.
I'm not complaining about Marshall's stats. But when his a QB throws for 400+ and the teams alleged #1 FF WR doesn't crack 100 yds, I start to go hmmmmmm ...
 
This is how I see it:

Royal has an incredible opportunity playing opposite one of the most dynamic receivers in the game. Marshall demands double coverage almost all of the time. To say he is better than Marshall is at the very least silly and at the very worst, just stupid. Royal simply cannot do the things that Marshall can do.

I'm not one to take away stats, but 1 catch 93 yards and the TD last night occured because of a severly blown defensive coverage by the Browns. The cornerback knew before the snap that his safety was out of position and was calling for him to recover as soon as he saw the Broncos TE stay in for a blocking assignment. Even when the corner seemed to recover he made a stupid jump play to try and deflect the ball. Not smart.

Royals stats would have been 5 for about 70 last night without that play.

Edit to add: Royal could not do the things Marshall does if he was demanding the coverage that marshall receives. He is too little, runs horrid routes, his yac would suck, and he has no size to man up physical corners. Even with all of the coverage, Marshall still managed 6-89-1. That's impressive.
I call BS on this statement. I have not watched every Broncos game, but in the games I have watched Royal has run superb routes. From what I can see, this is actually his strength, not his problem. He is small in stature, and has primarily been used as the possession receiver in the offense. How does he have the most receptions EVER for a WR after 8 games (pretty sure that was the stat that flashed during the game last night) if he is running horrid routes? He is not making catches by virtue of being taller or more physical than the defenders. He has to be doing something right - clearly what he is doing right is running his routes.Again, I have not watched every game, but I cannot see how he is having this kind of success while running "horrid" routes. That flies in the face of all logic.

 
This is how I see it:Royal has an incredible opportunity playing opposite one of the most dynamic receivers in the game. Marshall demands double coverage almost all of the time. To say he is better than Marshall is at the very least silly and at the very worst, just stupid. Royal simply cannot do the things that Marshall can do. I'm not one to take away stats, but 1 catch 93 yards and the TD last night occured because of a severly blown defensive coverage by the Browns. The cornerback knew before the snap that his safety was out of position and was calling for him to recover as soon as he saw the Broncos TE stay in for a blocking assignment. Even when the corner seemed to recover he made a stupid jump play to try and deflect the ball. Not smart. Royals stats would have been 5 for about 70 last night without that play.Edit to add: Royal could not do the things Marshall does if he was demanding the coverage that marshall receives. He is too little, runs horrid routes, his yac would suck, and he has no size to man up physical corners. Even with all of the coverage, Marshall still managed 6-89-1. That's impressive.
Royal didnt seem to have a problem when Marshall was out the 1st game. I also wouldnr say he runs horrid routes. For a rookie his routes are quite crisp. He also hasnt had much difficulty with being pressed at the line. He bench presses 400 pounds and is one of the strongest WRs in the league.
 
This is how I see it:Royal has an incredible opportunity playing opposite one of the most dynamic receivers in the game. Marshall demands double coverage almost all of the time. To say he is better than Marshall is at the very least silly and at the very worst, just stupid. Royal simply cannot do the things that Marshall can do. I'm not one to take away stats, but 1 catch 93 yards and the TD last night occured because of a severly blown defensive coverage by the Browns. The cornerback knew before the snap that his safety was out of position and was calling for him to recover as soon as he saw the Broncos TE stay in for a blocking assignment. Even when the corner seemed to recover he made a stupid jump play to try and deflect the ball. Not smart. Royals stats would have been 5 for about 70 last night without that play.Edit to add: Royal could not do the things Marshall does if he was demanding the coverage that marshall receives. He is too little, runs horrid routes, his yac would suck, and he has no size to man up physical corners. Even with all of the coverage, Marshall still managed 6-89-1. That's impressive.
Does anyone realize how mediocre Barry Sanders was without his long touchdown runs?
It's completely different first of all and secondly I wrote that i am not taking it away. However, if you watched the game you would realize what i am saying.
How about this then:You still have to at least give Royal credit for the catch and 40 yards where he caught it. Assuming the safety came over to make the tackle (which may or may not have happened), the Broncos now have 1st and 10 at the 50 (roughly). How many more catches and yards does Royal get for the rest of the drive? Does he still catch the TD to finish the drive? There is a chance that he doesn't get any more yards or catches or the TD, but there is a chance that he does. The fact that he beat his CB and outran everyone else should count for something, too. 5-70-0 is still a decent game, but 6-110-0 (+ extra on the drive) is very good, and 6-160-1 is outstanding. What if we take away Marshall's TD, he'd have only had 5-80-0. That's not fair to him, either, right?FWIW, I think Marshall is a better WR, but they're about equal for FF purposes.
 
FWIW - In my league (non PPR, bonus at 100 and 150 yards, bonus for long TDs) Marshall has 104.1 points, and Royal has 104.

I would still rather have Marshall, but the spread is not very big IMO. With Marshall you also always run the risk of suspension due to the high knucklehead factor.

One thing that worries me slightly with Royal is that he was named in the steroid masking drug case. He was not formally named, but his name did appear on the unconfirmed Internet list. The fact that he bench presses more than most LBs, and that he was named in that case is cause for slight concern IMO. He is a little guy to bench press that much weight. Never know...

 
I don't see anyone trading Marshall for Royal yet, but Eddie has been a very good WR2

this is very similar to TJ and Chad... one guy sucks up the doubles and the other cleans up

 
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JuniorNB said:
You are correct. He bench pressed 225 lbs 24 times. He also ran a 4.38 40 yd. dash and had a 36 inch verticle. He is a freakish athlete.
WOW. Did we (fantasy footballers) underestimate him at the beginning of the season and in our drafts? Those combine numbers are extremely impressive and he was drafted in the second round, but the hype didn't seem to be there.
 
FWIW - In my league (non PPR, bonus at 100 and 150 yards, bonus for long TDs) Marshall has 104.1 points, and Royal has 104.I would still rather have Marshall, but the spread is not very big IMO. With Marshall you also always run the risk of suspension due to the high knucklehead factor.One thing that worries me slightly with Royal is that he was named in the steroid masking drug case. He was not formally named, but his name did appear on the unconfirmed Internet list. The fact that he bench presses more than most LBs, and that he was named in that case is cause for slight concern IMO. He is a little guy to bench press that much weight. Never know...
That was a completely made up list that started on a Charger message board.
 
JuniorNB said:
You are correct. He bench pressed 225 lbs 24 times. He also ran a 4.38 40 yd. dash and had a 36 inch verticle. He is a freakish athlete.
WOW. Did we (fantasy footballers) underestimate him at the beginning of the season and in our drafts? Those combine numbers are extremely impressive and he was drafted in the second round, but the hype didn't seem to be there.
From what I understand, he didn't have a great college career as a receiver. He was an excellent kick returner, though. He had great practices during the Senior Bowl week and opened some eyes. His combine numbers really made his stock rise. Even with his winter-uprising, many thought Shanahan reached by grabbing him in round two. Some attributed his average receiving numbers in college to having difficulties getting off of bump-coverage. I think his increased strength put an end to those problems.
 

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