So let me get this straight... (1 Viewer)

[aldelgreco]

So, whiz kid finally gets Marshall involved in the second half, but does so by replacing Royal with Marshall?

What is the deal? Why would you want Gaffney and Stokelely out there instead of having those two in tandem?

Orton sucks, McDaniels is a weirdo. What a great combo for fantasy owners of these two receivers.

 

[lod01]

What is worse is that with the 2 wins. McDork thinks he is a guru. After weeks 3, they come up against real teams and turds like Orton, Gaffney and lloyd will be exposed.

 

[Young 8]

i would pay to see Denver goes 2-14 at the end of the season

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Denver is 2-0, are you really questioning this from an NFL angle or is that the faint smell of buyer's remorse for taking either Royal or Marshall more than once in a few leagues?

 

[packersfan]

Denver is 2-0, are you really questioning this from an NFL angle or is that the faint smell of buyer's remorse for taking either Royal or Marshall more than once in a few leagues?

I think you could make an argument for both - unless you believe that Jabar Gaffney and Brandon Stokley give you a better chance to win over the course of a 16-game season than Brandon Marshall and Eddie Royal. At some point, the Broncos are going to need Marshall and Royal but the problem is the longer the situation remains a mess for those two guys the more difficult it's going to be for Orton to get on the same page with them - assuming he ever can.

 

[gigantor]

Orton kills WR for fantasy..

Denver is 2-0 after beating Ohio teams. Congrats.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

So, whiz kid finally gets Marshall involved in the second half, but does so by replacing Royal with Marshall?What is the deal? Why would you want Gaffney and Stokelely out there instead of having those two in tandem? Orton sucks, McDaniels is a weirdo. What a great combo for fantasy owners of these two receivers.

Your flaw in this argument is that Denver is 2-0. I own Royal in one league and Marshall in another but McDaniels doesn't care about that, they are 2-0. You need to be able to seperate your fantasy teams (it's obvious you have one or both of these guys on some roster) with the reality of NFL football.Right now, any WR on Denver is a risky start even at WR3. If you're in a WR2 league and you're counting on one of these guys to start, you're in trouble.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Orton kills WR for fantasy..Denver is 2-0 after beating Ohio teams. Congrats.

Detroit is 0-19 after losing to teams all over the United States. You take wins when you can get them in this league, especially after how the offseason and preseason went down this year for Denver.

 

[az_prof]

As bad as the AFC west is and with a couple of lucky wins it would really be funny if McDope wins the division--because then Denver fans will be stuck with him for at least two more years.

Last week was the epitome of a lucky win and this week an ugly win. Yes, they got two wins, but against bad teams and if you think this means that they are a good team you will be surprised.

 

[Young 8]

Your flaw in this argument is that Denver is 2-0. I own Royal in one league and Marshall in another but McDaniels doesn't care about that, they are 2-0.

- miracle win against Cinci after they scored 3 points in 59:30 minutes- Cleveland (potential 0-16 team)btw they were 3-0 and then 4-1 last year, what happened in the playoffs ?oh....wait they didn't even reach the playoffs

 

[Itchy Amos]

So, whiz kid finally gets Marshall involved in the second half, but does so by replacing Royal with Marshall?

What is the deal? Why would you want Gaffney and Stokelely out there instead of having those two in tandem?

Orton sucks, McDaniels is a weirdo. What a great combo for fantasy owners of these two receivers.

Gaffney is a very solid reciever. IMO, New England did itself no favor by replacing him with Galloway.

 

[greenroom]

Your flaw in this argument is that Denver is 2-0. I own Royal in one league and Marshall in another but McDaniels doesn't care about that, they are 2-0.

- miracle win against Cinci after they scored 3 points in 59:30 minutes- Cleveland (potential 0-16 team)btw they were 3-0 and then 4-1 last year, what happened in the playoffs ?oh....wait they didn't even reach the playoffs

This team has a Defense that last years did not. So lets see Denver starts out 2-0 with one lucky win and one dominating win and there are still haters. The running game is getting started. I think Marshall is finally catching up to learning the offense and hope to see him and Royal a lot more next game.

 

[thatguy]

As bad as the AFC west is and with a couple of lucky wins it would really be funny if McDope wins the division--because then Denver fans will be stuck with him for at least two more years.

Last week was the epitome of a lucky win and this week an ugly win. Yes, they got two wins, but against bad teams and if you think this means that they are a good team you will be surprised.

Pretty sure I'd be okay with that. I don't really know what was ugly about this win... The first half was ugly for both teams but Denver looked pretty good in the second half.

 

[pollardsvision]

Those knocking DEN for going 0-2, are you ready re-evaluate GB?

Maybe the CIN win is meaningless, but CIN just went into GB and punched them in the mouth. Doesn't mean DEN is better than GB, but it does illustrate that wins in the NFL can't be taken for granted, even over "garbage" teams like CIN.

I don't know what McDaniels is thinking, but putting Stokely/Gaffney in over Royal/Marshall doesn't make him a bad coach. Stokely, when healthy, has always been an effective WR in this league, as well as being single-handedly responsible for 50% of DEN's wins. Royal is a 2nd year WR that padded his stats on a terrible team last year. Marshall is pain in the ### that admittedly didn't learn the offense in the pre-season. Gaffney has always had some potential (which is basically all Royal still is, save a stat-padding season on a terrible team with no defense or running game).

Not saying that Stokely/Gaffney are better, but previous fantasy production doesn't equal "key ingredient in winning football".

Royal/Marshall have never been a part of helping a team be a winner and, even this season, how have they made an impact on the DEN offense. Last I checked, the DEN offense has done roughly nothing with Marshall/Royal in the game. If the coach wants to check out some other guys, you can't fault him.

 

[packersfan]

The running game is getting started. I think Marshall is finally catching up to learning the offense and hope to see him and Royal a lot more next game.

The next game is against the Raiders. I doubt either Marshall or Royal show much next week.

 

[DawnBTVS]

Watching the game, Stokley was a very solid receiving option for Orton. I don't think anybody will confuse him with Marshall/Royal but he was acting a lot like how Gaffney was being used in NE. An option who can go downfield 7-12 yards and get 4-6 catches a game.

People forget Stokley was the WR3 for Peyton in Indianapolis so it's not like he's a real slouch at WR for Denver. The guy's a capable possession guy and if he's open, Orton will throw to him at the expense of your fantasy teams.

 

[PatytonsGhost]

Im officially done with any Bronco WR as long as McDaniels is coach and Orton = QB

 

[thatguy]

Those knocking DEN for going 0-2, are you ready re-evaluate GB?Maybe the CIN win is meaningless, but CIN just went into GB and punched them in the mouth. Doesn't mean DEN is better than GB, but it does illustrate that wins in the NFL can't be taken for granted, even over "garbage" teams like CIN. I don't know what McDaniels is thinking, but putting Stokely/Gaffney in over Royal/Marshall doesn't make him a bad coach. Stokely, when healthy, has always been an effective WR in this league, as well as being single-handedly responsible for 50% of DEN's wins. Royal is a 2nd year WR that padded his stats on a terrible team last year. Marshall is pain in the ### that's always been a stat padder.Not saying that Stokely/Gaffney are better, but previous fantasy production doesn't equal "key ingredient in winning football".Royal/Marshall have never been a part of helping a team be a winner and, even this season, how have they made an impact on the DEN offense. Last I checked, the DEN offense has done roughly nothing with Marshall/Royal in the game. If the coach wants to check out some other guys, you can't fault him.

I wanted to say something to this effect but didn't really know how to say it. So, thanks.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

All I know is Royal ain't sniffing my lineup for a while.

 

[Zaxxon]

Your flaw in this argument is that Denver is 2-0. I own Royal in one league and Marshall in another but McDaniels doesn't care about that, they are 2-0.

- miracle win against Cinci after they scored 3 points in 59:30 minutes- Cleveland (potential 0-16 team)btw they were 3-0 and then 4-1 last year, what happened in the playoffs ?oh....wait they didn't even reach the playoffs

You're a pretty bitter guy. Is there a way I can be notified when you make posts? A Young 8 subscription service or something? Godspeed, brother.

 

[Das Boot]

Orton kills WR for fantasy..Denver is 2-0 after beating Ohio teams. Congrats.

One of the Ohio teams didn't look too bad today.The other one definitely is in for a long year though.

 

[aldelgreco]

So, whiz kid finally gets Marshall involved in the second half, but does so by replacing Royal with Marshall?What is the deal? Why would you want Gaffney and Stokelely out there instead of having those two in tandem? Orton sucks, McDaniels is a weirdo. What a great combo for fantasy owners of these two receivers.

Your flaw in this argument is that Denver is 2-0. I own Royal in one league and Marshall in another but McDaniels doesn't care about that, they are 2-0. You need to be able to seperate your fantasy teams (it's obvious you have one or both of these guys on some roster) with the reality of NFL football.Right now, any WR on Denver is a risky start even at WR3. If you're in a WR2 league and you're counting on one of these guys to start, you're in trouble.

Oh please. I own that turd marshall in one league and that was ONLY because he fell something ridiculous-like to the 9th round. I could care less about Brandon Marshall, Eddie Royal or that horrible team. The only reason I watched the game in the first place was because I was watching in a car on my iPhone with NFL Gamecast while travelling all day. It was the game that streamed easiest because they didn't even bother putting that waste of life in HD. They are 2-0 after a freakshow accident and and a win that any receiver running stokeleys route would have been all over. if you want to put yourself to sleep try watching the second half of that POS and you'll see that orton had decent protection and time to check down, but just couldn't find anyone half the time. They need to have Royal and MArshall in there. From a FOOTBALL standpoint. He provides more in terms of attention from the Z than stokeley and much more in terms of big play ability from the X than freaking gaffney. mcdaniels is a weirdo. orton sucks. if you own a Denver WR, you are.....f'ed

 

[Buffaloes]

So, whiz kid finally gets Marshall involved in the second half, but does so by replacing Royal with Marshall?

What is the deal? Why would you want Gaffney and Stokelely out there instead of having those two in tandem?

Orton sucks, McDaniels is a weirdo. What a great combo for fantasy owners of these two receivers.

Pssst, Orton and McDaniels don't care about your team.

 

[DeadhorseGM]

Maybe aldelgreco and Young 8 should get together and start a club.

 

[Carver Lee]

Pssst, Orton and McDaniels don't care about your team.

If you knew how many times this has been said, you wouldn't have said it... or maybe you would?I'm not giving up on the DEN WR's. They're not New England West like some people have been prediction but they are still pass happy. I like receivers on pass happy teams.

 

[aldelgreco]

So, whiz kid finally gets Marshall involved in the second half, but does so by replacing Royal with Marshall?

What is the deal? Why would you want Gaffney and Stokelely out there instead of having those two in tandem?

Orton sucks, McDaniels is a weirdo. What a great combo for fantasy owners of these two receivers.

Pssst, Orton and McDaniels don't care about your team.

you have completely misinterpreted what i said. for proof, look at my signature.i have said mcdaniels is a #######, and he is the luckiest man in the world to be 2-0. (in the REAL football world.)

 

[SSOG]

As bad as the AFC west is and with a couple of lucky wins it would really be funny if McDope wins the division--because then Denver fans will be stuck with him for at least two more years. Last week was the epitome of a lucky win and this week an ugly win. Yes, they got two wins, but against bad teams and if you think this means that they are a good team you will be surprised.

Nothing lucky or ugly about the win this week. 449 yards to 200, 25 first downs to 11, 6.1 yards per play to 3.6, 5.0 yards per carry to 2.6, 7.1 yards per pass to 4.2, 0 sacks to 4 sacks, +2 in turnover margin, 8/15 on 3rd down compared to 3/14... Denver flat-out dominated.Last week's win might have been lucky, but the two teams essentially battled to a draw over 59 minutes, and this week Cincinnati looked a lot better than they were being given credit for before the season.I hope Denver is stuck with McDaniels for two more years. I think the only mistake that could be bigger than firing Shanahan in the first place would be firing McDaniels after just one season. Denver's already given away their franchise QB for the guy, they sure as hell better at least see if he can coach.