So with McNair gone does Young start? (1 Viewer)

[cuncho]

just wondering, myself I see the youngster sitting and learning unless he simply goes nuts in training camp...

 

[aposulli]

just wondering, myself I see the youngster sitting and learning unless he simply goes nuts in training camp...

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They're definitly not starting VY in 2006.Kerry Collins will be targeted if (when) they lose McNair, so it's either him or Volek

 

[David Yudkin]

I would hope they let Young learn an NFL system before sending him out for almost certain abuse. The Texa offensive system was very basic and nowhere near as sophisticated as a pro set. IMO, Young will get eaten alive if they march him out there on opening day. Remember, he is supposed to be a project that needs a lot of nurturing before he will be ready to contribute.

That leaves Volek or another veteran (Kerry Collins?) to hold the fort down until Young can go out and not embarass himself. I suspect Volek gets the nod until the Titans are out of the playoff hunt and then they will insert Young to give him some NFL experience to build on for next year.

 

[Traders2001]

Why would they bring Collins or another veteran , Volek proved he can play in this league and is probably better then anybody they can get now.

SO Volek is the starter in 2006 and you never know if ( by miracle ) he played like he did in the last part of the 2004 season he would put up great numbers and find a starting job in 2007.

 

[diesel7982]

Why would they bring Collins or another veteran , Volek proved he can play in this league and is probably better then anybody they can get now.

SO Volek is the starter in 2006 and you never know if ( by miracle ) he played like he did in the last part of the 2004 season he would put up great numbers and find a starting job in 2007.

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Collins is MUCH better than Volek. If the team thinks it can compete this year (which it will, as Floyd and Fisher MUST win this year), they'll want Collins, as he'll give them a shot at winning.

 

[msommer]

Why would they bring Collins or another veteran , Volek proved he can play in this league and is probably better then anybody they can get now.

SO Volek is the starter in 2006 and you never know if ( by miracle ) he played like he did in the last part of the 2004 season he would put up great numbers and find a starting job in 2007.

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Collins is MUCH better than Volek. If the team thinks it can compete this year (which it will, as Floyd and Fisher MUST win this year), they'll want Collins, as he'll give them a shot at winning.

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Although Collins a a bit removed from a winning season

 

[CalBear]

Why would they bring Collins or another veteran , Volek proved he can play in this league and is probably better then anybody they can get now.

SO Volek is the starter in 2006 and you never know if ( by miracle ) he played like he did in the last part of the 2004 season he would put up great numbers and find a starting job in 2007.

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Collins is MUCH better than Volek. If the team thinks it can compete this year (which it will, as Floyd and Fisher MUST win this year), they'll want Collins, as he'll give them a shot at winning.

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Collins is 11-30 in the past three years as a starter, and is coming off a season where he completed just 53.5% of his passes despite having an enormously better receiving corps than Tennessee does.For their respective careers, Volek has better completion percentage, yards per attempt, and TD/INT ratio.

 

[ArcticEdge]

If I were the Titans, I would start Young from day one. This team is in a re-building year for sure. He is their future, get him as much experience as possible. Yes... They might win more games with Volek or Collins, but even with using a veteran QB, this team is not going anywhere this year.

 

[Portis 26]

If I were the Titans, I would start Young from day one. This team is in a re-building year for sure. He is their future, get him as much experience as possible. Yes... They might win more games with Volek or Collins, but even with using a veteran QB, this team is not going anywhere this year.

The question is if throwing a QB to the wolves immediately is the smartest thing. Carson Palmer sat behind Jon Kitna his rookie year and looked great. Vick sat for much of his rookie year. Sometimes getting a rookie QB "experience" results in him getting overwhelmed and his confidence shot.

 

[nerangers]

Titans | Talks with Baltimore cool off; team may retain McNair

Mon, 8 May 2006 14:37:46 -0700

TitansRadio.com reports the Tennessee Titans and Baltimore Ravens have not contacted each other since draft weekend about disgruntled QB Steve McNair. With trade talks on ice, head coach Jeff Fisher spoke of going in a different direction with McNair and making an effort to bring him back. ''I think Baltimore's window came and left,'' Fisher said. ''I think the next step is to try to communicate with [McNair] and see if we can work something out.''

 

[WhoDat]

If I were the Titans, I would start Young from day one.  This team is in a re-building year for sure.  He is their future, get him as much experience as possible.  Yes...  They might win more games with Volek or Collins, but even with using a veteran QB, this team is not going anywhere this year.

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This is the same team that sat McNair for a while. Given the emotional and financial investment Young represents to the coaches; team and ownership; the team's history with a similiar situation and the recent handling of Pennington and Palmer, there is no way the Titans brain trust throw Young to the wolves early in September. Check back early to mid November or first Sunday of December at the latest. He needs work...plenty of work...both in the film room and practice field before he can show people what he can do at the next level.

 

[helix]

Titans | Talks with Baltimore cool off; team may retain McNair

Mon, 8 May 2006 14:37:46 -0700

TitansRadio.com reports the Tennessee Titans and Baltimore Ravens have not contacted each other since draft weekend about disgruntled QB Steve McNair. With trade talks on ice, head coach Jeff Fisher spoke of going in a different direction with McNair and making an effort to bring him back. ''I think Baltimore's window came and left,'' Fisher said. ''I think the next step is to try to communicate with [McNair] and see if we can work something out.''

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I would love to see Tenn actually sign McNair to a deal that included $12 million up front. The problem is that there is no way in hell that it could happen and everybody knows it. This is a pathetic attempt to gain some leverage. Unfortunately for Tenn, I highly doubt anyone is buying it.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Why would they bring Collins or another veteran , Volek proved he can play in this league and is probably better then anybody they can get now.

SO Volek is the starter in 2006 and you never know if ( by miracle ) he played like he did in the last part of the 2004 season he would put up great numbers and find a starting job in 2007.

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Collins is MUCH better than Volek. If the team thinks it can compete this year (which it will, as Floyd and Fisher MUST win this year), they'll want Collins, as he'll give them a shot at winning.

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Collins is 11-30 in the past three years as a starter, and is coming off a season where he completed just 53.5% of his passes despite having an enormously better receiving corps than Tennessee does.For their respective careers, Volek has better completion percentage, yards per attempt, and TD/INT ratio.

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I didn't know Volek went to Cal.......

 

[Sanboy]

he went to FRESNO .. not cal

 

[rabidfireweasel]

he went to FRESNO .. not cal

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Different school, same Tedford.

 

[Spike]

If I were the Titans, I would start Young from day one. This team is in a re-building year for sure. He is their future, get him as much experience as possible. Yes... They might win more games with Volek or Collins, but even with using a veteran QB, this team is not going anywhere this year.

The question is if throwing a QB to the wolves immediately is the smartest thing. Carson Palmer sat behind Jon Kitna his rookie year and looked great. Vick sat for much of his rookie year. Sometimes getting a rookie QB "experience" results in him getting overwhelmed and his confidence shot.
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Great, not

 

[ConstruxBoy]

he went to FRESNO .. not cal

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It was a playful jab at CalBear.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Why would they bring Collins or another veteran , Volek proved he can play in this league and is probably better then anybody they can get now.

SO Volek is the starter in 2006 and you never know if ( by miracle ) he played like he did in the last part of the 2004 season he would put up great numbers and find a starting job in 2007.

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Collins is MUCH better than Volek. If the team thinks it can compete this year (which it will, as Floyd and Fisher MUST win this year), they'll want Collins, as he'll give them a shot at winning.

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Collins is 11-30 in the past three years as a starter, and is coming off a season where he completed just 53.5% of his passes despite having an enormously better receiving corps than Tennessee does.For their respective careers, Volek has better completion percentage, yards per attempt, and TD/INT ratio.

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The Raiders had an INCREDIBLY HIGH number of drops last year. Porter had over 140 targets last year, but caught just 76.The receivers made Collins look bad, plain and simple.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I'm in Maryland, and I heard an interesting interview on Baltimore radio before the draft.

I forget the reporter's name, but he writes on the Titans in the Tennesseean and was talking about McNair and the QB situation in Baltimore and Tennessee.

He was spot on in adamantly saying the Titans were picking VY. Also he said that the coaching staff doesn't want to throw a rookie out in 2006 as the starter, so Volek will be the QB for this year if McNair is gone.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Why would they bring Collins or another veteran , Volek proved he can play in this league and is probably better then anybody they can get now.

SO Volek is the starter in 2006 and you never know if ( by miracle ) he played like he did in the last part of the 2004 season he would put up great numbers and find a starting job in 2007.

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Collins is MUCH better than Volek. If the team thinks it can compete this year (which it will, as Floyd and Fisher MUST win this year), they'll want Collins, as he'll give them a shot at winning.

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Collins is 11-30 in the past three years as a starter, and is coming off a season where he completed just 53.5% of his passes despite having an enormously better receiving corps than Tennessee does.For their respective careers, Volek has better completion percentage, yards per attempt, and TD/INT ratio.

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Diesel is a Volek hater. I can't believe how much hate he throws at Volek since the guy has never had a chance with this team yet. Give him all the starter reps and prep him as the guy and he may surprise some doubters on here.

 

[RnR]

I'd think anyone that has watched Volek for an extended period of time would be leery of letting him loose with the starting job. Diesel isn't alone.

 

[CalBear]

I'd think anyone that has watched Volek for an extended period of time would be leery of letting him loose with the starting job.  Diesel isn't alone.

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I don't think Volek is all that, but Collins has been massively overrated by most people. Even if you want to blame his low completion percentage in 2005 on drops (which I don't think there's a lot of evidence for), his career completion percentage is only 55.6%, which is still well below Volek's. Two teams have gotten rid of Collins in the past three years, after 4-12 seasons with him at the helm. What evidence is there that he's anything but mediocre? I can see wanting someone other than Volek, I just can't see wanting Collins over Volek.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

I'd think anyone that has watched Volek for an extended period of time would be leery of letting him loose with the starting job.  Diesel isn't alone.

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I don't think Volek is all that, but Collins has been massively overrated by most people. Even if you want to blame his low completion percentage in 2005 on drops (which I don't think there's a lot of evidence for), his career completion percentage is only 55.6%, which is still well below Volek's. Two teams have gotten rid of Collins in the past three years, after 4-12 seasons with him at the helm. What evidence is there that he's anything but mediocre? I can see wanting someone other than Volek, I just can't see wanting Collins over Volek.

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I agree and I don't think Volek is the be all as well, but he at least deserves a chance and maybe ends up being a good player for the next couple of years until VY is ready to go.

 

[-OZ-]

The Raiders had an INCREDIBLY HIGH number of drops last year.  Porter had over 140 targets last year, but caught just 76.

The receivers made Collins look bad, plain and simple.

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Is there a good reference for "good passes" dropped vs. just targets?Often a WR gets creditted with a target when the QB tosses the ball away in a WR's general direction. I'm curious to see how many catchable balls Porter actually dropped.

 

[(HULK)]

I'm in Maryland, and I heard an interesting interview on Baltimore radio before the draft.

I forget the reporter's name, but he writes on the Titans in the Tennesseean and was talking about McNair and the QB situation in Baltimore and Tennessee.

He was spot on in adamantly saying the Titans were picking VY.  Also he said that the coaching staff doesn't want to throw a rookie out in 2006 as the starter, so Volek will be the QB for this year if McNair is gone.

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If Volek starts... Drew Bennett may be a mid to late round steal.His ADP has to be pretty low after bombing last season.

His numbers with Volek in were sky high though, and with McNair in, they were never any better than pedestrian.

 

[Davej626]

Please change the title. Mcnair is still a Titan. TIA.

 

[-OZ-]

As already stated, Volek starts, I think he'll play as long as he's healthy.

Titans get another top pick next year.

 

[diesel7982]

Why would they bring Collins or another veteran , Volek proved he can play in this league and is probably better then anybody they can get now.

SO Volek is the starter in 2006 and you never know if ( by miracle ) he played like he did in the last part of the 2004 season he would put up great numbers and find a starting job in 2007.

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Collins is MUCH better than Volek. If the team thinks it can compete this year (which it will, as Floyd and Fisher MUST win this year), they'll want Collins, as he'll give them a shot at winning.

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Collins is 11-30 in the past three years as a starter, and is coming off a season where he completed just 53.5% of his passes despite having an enormously better receiving corps than Tennessee does.For their respective careers, Volek has better completion percentage, yards per attempt, and TD/INT ratio.

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Diesel is a Volek hater. I can't believe how much hate he throws at Volek since the guy has never had a chance with this team yet. Give him all the starter reps and prep him as the guy and he may surprise some doubters on here.
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Ah yes, the good ol' "hater" argument. The pinnacle of rational argument.Volek has had plenty of chance with the Titans. You yourself have admitted youve barely seen him play, but yet feel qualified to argue about whether or not Volek is a good NFL QB by looking at his stat sheet.

I know this is a message board, and everyone likes to give their opinion, no matter how unresearched, but please, do not speak of that which you do not know.

 

[diesel7982]

I'm in Maryland, and I heard an interesting interview on Baltimore radio before the draft.

I forget the reporter's name, but he writes on the Titans in the Tennesseean and was talking about McNair and the QB situation in Baltimore and Tennessee.

He was spot on in adamantly saying the Titans were picking VY.  Also he said that the coaching staff doesn't want to throw a rookie out in 2006 as the starter, so Volek will be the QB for this year if McNair is gone.

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If Volek starts... Drew Bennett may be a mid to late round steal.His ADP has to be pretty low after bombing last season.

His numbers with Volek in were sky high though, and with McNair in, they were never any better than pedestrian.

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This has to do with the offense the Titans were running at the time, not the QB.Bennett will be more pedestrian than last year if Volek is the starter.

 

[gman8343]

I'm in Maryland, and I heard an interesting interview on Baltimore radio before the draft.

I forget the reporter's name, but he writes on the Titans in the Tennesseean and was talking about McNair and the QB situation in Baltimore and Tennessee.

He was spot on in adamantly saying the Titans were picking VY.  Also he said that the coaching staff doesn't want to throw a rookie out in 2006 as the starter, so Volek will be the QB for this year if McNair is gone.

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If Volek starts... Drew Bennett may be a mid to late round steal.His ADP has to be pretty low after bombing last season.

His numbers with Volek in were sky high though, and with McNair in, they were never any better than pedestrian.

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This has to do with the offense the Titans were running at the time, not the QB.Bennett will be more pedestrian than last year if Volek is the starter.

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Jeff Fisher was busting Drew Bennett's chops the other day on the NFL Network about how Volek at QB will open up more opportunities for him...

 

[wannabee]

Is McNair gone? Is this still in question? I know we all assume he will be gone because of the bonus, rift between McNair and mgmt, and trade talks, but the OP posted as though it was a certainty.

BTW, I think the chances are very high that he is gone, but I did not think it was a foregone certainty.

 

[(HULK)]

I'm in Maryland, and I heard an interesting interview on Baltimore radio before the draft.

I forget the reporter's name, but he writes on the Titans in the Tennesseean and was talking about McNair and the QB situation in Baltimore and Tennessee.

He was spot on in adamantly saying the Titans were picking VY.  Also he said that the coaching staff doesn't want to throw a rookie out in 2006 as the starter, so Volek will be the QB for this year if McNair is gone.

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If Volek starts... Drew Bennett may be a mid to late round steal.His ADP has to be pretty low after bombing last season.

His numbers with Volek in were sky high though, and with McNair in, they were never any better than pedestrian.

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This has to do with the offense the Titans were running at the time, not the QB.Bennett will be more pedestrian than last year if Volek is the starter.

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Jeff Fisher was busting Drew Bennett's chops the other day on the NFL Network about how Volek at QB will open up more opportunities for him...
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I don't know a ton about the Titans.I always thought it was a chemistry issue. Could you elaborate?

TIA

 

[diesel7982]

I'm in Maryland, and I heard an interesting interview on Baltimore radio before the draft.

I forget the reporter's name, but he writes on the Titans in the Tennesseean and was talking about McNair and the QB situation in Baltimore and Tennessee.

He was spot on in adamantly saying the Titans were picking VY.  Also he said that the coaching staff doesn't want to throw a rookie out in 2006 as the starter, so Volek will be the QB for this year if McNair is gone.

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If Volek starts... Drew Bennett may be a mid to late round steal.His ADP has to be pretty low after bombing last season.

His numbers with Volek in were sky high though, and with McNair in, they were never any better than pedestrian.

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This has to do with the offense the Titans were running at the time, not the QB.Bennett will be more pedestrian than last year if Volek is the starter.

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Jeff Fisher was busting Drew Bennett's chops the other day on the NFL Network about how Volek at QB will open up more opportunities for him...
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I don't know a ton about the Titans.I always thought it was a chemistry issue. Could you elaborate?

TIA

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Its got nothing to do with chemistry and everything to do with that in 2004, the Titans had lost 8 of 11 defensive starters, and several starters along the OL, in addition to Chris Brown not being able to play most of the 2nd half of the seasons.The Titans were a horrible team that changed their offense to a wide open passing attack just to give themselves a chance to compete, and this usually resulted in Volek throwing it up 40-50 times a game.

Bennett, who previously had never been more than a #3 WR for the Titans save for a few games in 2003, had a ton of experience working with Volek on the 2nd team in practice over the past few years.

Naturally, Bennett got more looks from Volek than anyone else. While Bennett might still get more looks if Volek starts this year compared to last year with McNair, we will not see the type of numbers they put up in 2004.

 

[CalBear]

Fisher thinks it makes sense to keep McNair. (Reported Monday, May 8).

I'm wondering if the $11 million Baltimore supposedly offered to McNair, which was reported by McNair's agent, wasn't really $11 million; it could have been like the Elvis Grbac situation, where it was $5 million up front and with a $6 million Ravens' option for next year. (The Ravens chose not to pay Grbac the second bonus). At $11 million for 2006, I don't think there's any way the Titans could compete to sign McNair, but if it's not really $11 million, there could be a chance.

I'd estimate the chance of McNair staying in Tennessee is now around 25%--up from miniscule.

 

[Barry Jive and The Uptown Five]

Why would they bring Collins or another veteran , Volek proved he can play in this league and is probably better then anybody they can get now.

SO Volek is the starter in 2006 and you never know if ( by miracle ) he played like he did in the last part of the 2004 season he would put up great numbers and find a starting job in 2007.

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Please see the 2005 NY Jets season.And sometimes having a vet QB backup doesn't even help!

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Why would they bring Collins or another veteran , Volek proved he can play in this league and is probably better then anybody they can get now.

SO Volek is the starter in 2006 and you never know if ( by miracle ) he played like he did in the last part of the 2004 season he would put up great numbers and find a starting job in 2007.

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Collins is MUCH better than Volek. If the team thinks it can compete this year (which it will, as Floyd and Fisher MUST win this year), they'll want Collins, as he'll give them a shot at winning.

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Collins is 11-30 in the past three years as a starter, and is coming off a season where he completed just 53.5% of his passes despite having an enormously better receiving corps than Tennessee does.For their respective careers, Volek has better completion percentage, yards per attempt, and TD/INT ratio.

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Diesel is a Volek hater. I can't believe how much hate he throws at Volek since the guy has never had a chance with this team yet. Give him all the starter reps and prep him as the guy and he may surprise some doubters on here.
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Ah yes, the good ol' "hater" argument. The pinnacle of rational argument.Volek has had plenty of chance with the Titans. You yourself have admitted youve barely seen him play, but yet feel qualified to argue about whether or not Volek is a good NFL QB by looking at his stat sheet.

I know this is a message board, and everyone likes to give their opinion, no matter how unresearched, but please, do not speak of that which you do not know.

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Can you please define this plenty of chance Volek has had with the Titans? I admittedly so have not seen much of Volek but neither have you. The guy has only started 10 games in his career. If given a chance he may be able to start in this league. I just don't think the Titans need to go out and get a guy like Collins when Volek could and probaly is better than Collins at this point in their careers. Some QB's take some time to get their chance a little later than the norm and then run with it ala T. Green.

Now what has Volek done that makes him such a terrible QB?

 

[diesel7982]

Why would they bring Collins or another veteran , Volek proved he can play in this league and is probably better then anybody they can get now.

SO Volek is the starter in 2006 and you never know if ( by miracle ) he played like he did in the last part of the 2004 season he would put up great numbers and find a starting job in 2007.

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Collins is MUCH better than Volek. If the team thinks it can compete this year (which it will, as Floyd and Fisher MUST win this year), they'll want Collins, as he'll give them a shot at winning.

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Collins is 11-30 in the past three years as a starter, and is coming off a season where he completed just 53.5% of his passes despite having an enormously better receiving corps than Tennessee does.For their respective careers, Volek has better completion percentage, yards per attempt, and TD/INT ratio.

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Diesel is a Volek hater. I can't believe how much hate he throws at Volek since the guy has never had a chance with this team yet. Give him all the starter reps and prep him as the guy and he may surprise some doubters on here.
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Ah yes, the good ol' "hater" argument. The pinnacle of rational argument.Volek has had plenty of chance with the Titans. You yourself have admitted youve barely seen him play, but yet feel qualified to argue about whether or not Volek is a good NFL QB by looking at his stat sheet.

I know this is a message board, and everyone likes to give their opinion, no matter how unresearched, but please, do not speak of that which you do not know.

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Can you please define this plenty of chance Volek has had with the Titans? I admittedly so have not seen much of Volek but neither have you. The guy has only started 10 games in his career. If given a chance he may be able to start in this league. I just don't think the Titans need to go out and get a guy like Collins when Volek could and probaly is better than Collins at this point in their careers. Some QB's take some time to get their chance a little later than the norm and then run with it ala T. Green.

Now what has Volek done that makes him such a terrible QB?

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Im not going to keep typing the same thing over and over in every Volek thread. Ive detailed on numerous occasions why and how bad Volek is, even in your thread about him from last year.Search function is in the upper right corner.