Some WR tidbits, Boldin, Holt, Chad Johnson (1 Viewer)

[Hoss_Cartwright]

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Housh: Ocho 'crying' to get out of Cincinnati

Chad Johnson still desperately wants to get out of Cincinnati, according to former teammate T.J. Houshmandzadeh.

"Chad Johnson called me today. Crying. He wonders why everyone can get traded but him," Housh said Friday on NFL Network. Going back to Carl Pickens, Corey Dillon, and Takeo Spikes, the Bengals have a staunch tradition of their best players crying to get out of the rabbit hole. Apr. 20 - 9:58 am et

Source: SI.com

Report: Titans not out of Torry Holt derby

SI's Peter King warns that the Titans are not out of "the Torry Holt derby."

Holt was said to be finalizing a deal with the Jags over the weekend, so the Titans would have to swoop in with an offer at the last minute. Their interest in Holt has been steady, but they're also leery of overpaying. Apr. 20 - 10:02 am et

Source: SI.com

Eagles president: Boldin still an option

Eagles president Joe Banner wouldn't rule out trying to acquire Anquan Boldin despite having just given up one first-round pick for Jason Peters.

"There are teams that start the year with only one first-round draft pick and they've traded them," Banner said. "If we made another trade with a first-round draft pick, we'd just be in the same position as them." Head coach Andy Reid and GM Tom Heckert have downplayed the team's need for a superstar wide receiver. Apr. 20 - 8:31 am et

Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News

 

[AnonymousBob]

I don't blame OchoCinco for wanting out.

 

[Colin Dowling]

I'd love to see Holt in Nashville. He'd be a great fit for them - an experienced top-flight receiver who may not be as good as he once was. The Titans offense doesn't need a superstar WR, but they would definitely benefit from the addition of a guy of Holt's skill level. Additionally, I think offering the #30 for Boldin would be a great move for Tennessee.

I think CJ is reaping what he planted. Too many teams see him (rightfully) as a good-not-great WR and all his drama has turned people off big time.

 

[AnonymousBob]

I think CJ is reaping what he planted. Too many teams see him (rightfully) as a good-not-great WR and all his drama has turned people off big time.

His drama? I think he's widely regarded as a clown but the Bengals as a franchise are a joke. I don't put a huge amount of stock into the team cancer label if they're coming from the Raiders, Bengals, or a couple other teams. I think it has more to do with the Bengals not wanting to trade him then teams not wanting Chad on their roster.

 

[mikel0254]

I'd love to see Holt in Nashville. He'd be a great fit for them - an experienced top-flight receiver who may not be as good as he once was. The Titans offense doesn't need a superstar WR, but they would definitely benefit from the addition of a guy of Holt's skill level. Additionally, I think offering the #30 for Boldin would be a great move for Tennessee.

I think CJ is reaping what he planted. Too many teams see him (rightfully) as a good-not-great WR and all his drama has turned people off big time.

I think it would take much more than #30 for Boldin... I'd say a 1st and 2nd, along with another pick or player. The #30 pick doesn't have THAT much value

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I think CJ is reaping what he planted. Too many teams see him (rightfully) as a good-not-great WR and all his drama has turned people off big time.

His drama? I think he's widely regarded as a clown but the Bengals as a franchise are a joke. I don't put a huge amount of stock into the team cancer label if they're coming from the Raiders, Bengals, or a couple other teams. I think it has more to do with the Bengals not wanting to trade him then teams not wanting Chad on their roster.

I don't need to hear it from the Bengals to know that he's a horrible distraction to that team. I see it with my own two eyes and ears.

 

[Banger]

I think CJ is reaping what he planted. Too many teams see him (rightfully) as a good-not-great WR and all his drama has turned people off big time.

His drama? I think he's widely regarded as a clown but the Bengals as a franchise are a joke. I don't put a huge amount of stock into the team cancer label if they're coming from the Raiders, Bengals, or a couple other teams. I think it has more to do with the Bengals not wanting to trade him then teams not wanting Chad on their roster.

I don't know about that. Ya, there's no arguing that the Bengals franchise is not top notch but CJ hasn't helped himself with is antics and consistently putting himself ahead of the team.

 

[Mr. Pink]

Ah, the thought of Boldin to the Eagles.

 

[Sebowski]

And still nothing on Marvin Harrison.....

 

[perry147]

Ah, the thought of Boldin to the Eagles.

This would be the best case scenario.

 

[valence]

I'd love to see Holt in Nashville. He'd be a great fit for them - an experienced top-flight receiver who may not be as good as he once was. The Titans offense doesn't need a superstar WR, but they would definitely benefit from the addition of a guy of Holt's skill level. Additionally, I think offering the #30 for Boldin would be a great move for Tennessee. I think CJ is reaping what he planted. Too many teams see him (rightfully) as a good-not-great WR and all his drama has turned people off big time.

It didn't work out so well for Eric Moulds when he went to Tenessee. I'm not saying that Moulds was as gifted as Holt, but he had several great years in Buffalo before age caught up to him.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I'd love to see Holt in Nashville. He'd be a great fit for them - an experienced top-flight receiver who may not be as good as he once was. The Titans offense doesn't need a superstar WR, but they would definitely benefit from the addition of a guy of Holt's skill level. Additionally, I think offering the #30 for Boldin would be a great move for Tennessee. I think CJ is reaping what he planted. Too many teams see him (rightfully) as a good-not-great WR and all his drama has turned people off big time.

It didn't work out so well for Eric Moulds when he went to Tenessee. I'm not saying that Moulds was as gifted as Holt, but he had several great years in Buffalo before age caught up to him.

Isn't Tennessee the black hole for WRs?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

And still nothing on Marvin Harrison.....

thought I saw some rumor of him going to Oakland

 

[valence]

I'd love to see Holt in Nashville. He'd be a great fit for them - an experienced top-flight receiver who may not be as good as he once was. The Titans offense doesn't need a superstar WR, but they would definitely benefit from the addition of a guy of Holt's skill level. Additionally, I think offering the #30 for Boldin would be a great move for Tennessee. I think CJ is reaping what he planted. Too many teams see him (rightfully) as a good-not-great WR and all his drama has turned people off big time.

It didn't work out so well for Eric Moulds when he went to Tenessee. I'm not saying that Moulds was as gifted as Holt, but he had several great years in Buffalo before age caught up to him.

Isn't Tennessee the black hole for WRs?

not as bad as Oakland or Atlanta used to be, but it's got to be a solid 3rd.

 

[moderated]

I think CJ is reaping what he planted. Too many teams see him (rightfully) as a good-not-great WR and all his drama has turned people off big time.

He's been more then good, one of the best WR's in the league over the past 6 years and that's really not debatable. Offhand i'd say there are less then 3 WR's in the NFL who outperformed him from 2002-2008. Last year his situation was horrible, i don't think it was due to his skills deteriorating.2002 - 1166 yards/5 TD's

2003 - 1355 yards/10 TD's

2004 - 1274 yards/9 TD's

2005 - 1432 yards/9 TD's

2006 - 1369 yards/7 TD's

2007 - 1440 yards/8 TD's

2008 - 540 yards/4 TD's

His run from 2002 - 2007 is historically one of the best runs for a WR over a 6 year period. No non-elite WR's have ever had a run like that and history shows that elite WR's can play well into their mid-30's, so i think your underselling CJ short on talent, although i do agree with you on his attitude issues.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I'd love to see Holt in Nashville. He'd be a great fit for them - an experienced top-flight receiver who may not be as good as he once was. The Titans offense doesn't need a superstar WR, but they would definitely benefit from the addition of a guy of Holt's skill level. Additionally, I think offering the #30 for Boldin would be a great move for Tennessee. I think CJ is reaping what he planted. Too many teams see him (rightfully) as a good-not-great WR and all his drama has turned people off big time.

It didn't work out so well for Eric Moulds when he went to Tenessee. I'm not saying that Moulds was as gifted as Holt, but he had several great years in Buffalo before age caught up to him.

Isn't Tennessee the black hole for WRs?

not as bad as Oakland or Atlanta used to be, but it's got to be a solid 3rd.

You mean solid 2nd. Atlanta has Matt Ryan and I feel good about his future.

 

[valence]

I'd love to see Holt in Nashville. He'd be a great fit for them - an experienced top-flight receiver who may not be as good as he once was. The Titans offense doesn't need a superstar WR, but they would definitely benefit from the addition of a guy of Holt's skill level. Additionally, I think offering the #30 for Boldin would be a great move for Tennessee. I think CJ is reaping what he planted. Too many teams see him (rightfully) as a good-not-great WR and all his drama has turned people off big time.

It didn't work out so well for Eric Moulds when he went to Tenessee. I'm not saying that Moulds was as gifted as Holt, but he had several great years in Buffalo before age caught up to him.

Isn't Tennessee the black hole for WRs?

not as bad as Oakland or Atlanta used to be, but it's got to be a solid 3rd.

You mean solid 2nd. Atlanta has Matt Ryan and I feel good about his future.

obviously. I meant the pre-Matt Ryan era

 

[Fiddles]

best part of that nfl total access with housh was when he listed ben as a top 5 qb in the league