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Someone is leaving the Bungles (1 Viewer)
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dickey moe
Fingerpicker
"Why does Marvin Lewis still have a job?" is a pretty good question.
D'OHtis
Footballguy
Doesn't matter IMO. They need to look for Carson's successor. Good start would be Andrew Luck. Carson's now a poor man's Shaun Hill. (I'm stunned at the rate of his decline)
Anyone know who would own the tiebreaker between Carolina/Cincy for #1 pick? JMO Carolina has a good shot of beating the Cardinals IMO this weekend.
Anyone know who would own the tiebreaker between Carolina/Cincy for #1 pick? JMO Carolina has a good shot of beating the Cardinals IMO this weekend.
footballnerd
Footballguy
Both coach and player will be gone at the end of the year.
TO is lucky the Bengals even gave him a job when no one else would sign him, not sure what he's talking about.
But yes they should of won more games than this.
TO is lucky the Bengals even gave him a job when no one else would sign him, not sure what he's talking about.
But yes they should of won more games than this.
ourmanflint
Footballguy
Anyone see the bench for TO based on these comments?
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
I think there's underachieving from the gm who signed him
D'OHtis
Footballguy
Thanks. Can't imagine they'd pass on Luck (Carolina) if the case with Fox likely out after the season (and no allegiance to Claussen whatsoever).
A General Manager is tops on every bengals fan's christmas list. Never gonna happen.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
After the game, there was a clip on ESPN of him saying "I can't throw the ball to myself." 
It took 14 weeks, but the meltdown is in full effect.
It took 14 weeks, but the meltdown is in full effect.
Head to head isnt the tiebreak on draft picks. Its strength of schedule.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Everybody's gone after this season...except Mike Brown...10 year rebuilding cycle begins anew.
Football Critic
Footballguy
So why does TO not just shut his mouth, I mean 3 games left...he obviously has no plans to play next year. He has made a fool of himself with every team he has been on. Not worth the risk at all.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
TO complaining? THIS IS SHOCKING !!!!
When you sign TO you know it is only a matter of time before he starts running his mouth -- Bengals just have to bend over and take it now...
When you sign TO you know it is only a matter of time before he starts running his mouth -- Bengals just have to bend over and take it now...
the_vision
Footballguy
Your going to get on Owens for sounding off when the Bengals have two wins in a season they expected to make a serious playoff run? I don't get it.
TO didn't say anything that isn't true. He was the only real bright spot for the Bengals (though it was short-lived) this year. He'll be gone next year so what's the big deal??
He's never won ####.
He's never taken personal responsibility for losing.
He is quicker to blame others in the media than he is running on the filed.
He destroys teams and individuals confidence.
He was prolific in an age of prolific recievers, talented, but never unusually so compared to his contemporaries.
In the end he was a journeyman who never won anything. The reason he was a journeyman was because those in the business who know more about him than we ever will, quality coaches, all determined he was not a value.
He's never taken personal responsibility for losing.
He is quicker to blame others in the media than he is running on the filed.
He destroys teams and individuals confidence.
He was prolific in an age of prolific recievers, talented, but never unusually so compared to his contemporaries.
In the end he was a journeyman who never won anything. The reason he was a journeyman was because those in the business who know more about him than we ever will, quality coaches, all determined he was not a value.
habsfan
Footballguy
The irony behind "throw me the damn ball" is that they were losing when he posted big statistical days and losing when he didn't.
Stop for two seconds and think about how if every player was like TO and every time a team didn't perform the way they 'thought' everyone just started saying 'its not my fault the qb sucks' 'its not my fault the oline sucks' 'its not my fault the coaching sucks' 'its not my fault the rb sucks'. That's a recipe for success. The guy is a cancer and you have to be stupid to put him on your team...
delusional
Footballguy
TO was the only productive player on that team. Isn't his fault.
Really though, why does Lewis still have a job?
Really though, why does Lewis still have a job?
notdarkyet
Footballguy
Feels like the matrix. Starting all over. Looking for The One.Until Mike Brown dies, the Bengals will never succeed. There's a chance that his son, Katie Blackburn will hire a GM, hopefully.
Is this a typo or humor???
Summer Wheat
Footballguy
Yup..TO just can`t hold it together for a full season no matter how hard he tries.Raider Nation said:After the game, there was a clip on ESPN of him saying "I can't throw the ball to myself."
It took 14 weeks, but the meltdown is in full effect.
Tabasco Red
Footballguy
Not so fast there, we're already lobbying for him to come back to Baltimore.
If any franchise can handle a mouthy WR and issues it's the Bengals. They have Ocho, they have had so many players get hurt, bust and....this surely doesn't mean Lewis or TO is gone. This is too predictable too...I don't think this means he's leaving.
TO needs to shhh or take his punishment and go back to Buffalo
TO needs to shhh or take his punishment and go back to Buffalo
bostonfred
Footballguy
"I'm not sure why we're 2-11 this year," Ochocinco said. "But the thing with me is I've become numb to the situation of losing, being that I've lost for such a long time that I have not been able to point the finger on what it really is."
That seems like a much more noteworthy comment
That seems like a much more noteworthy comment
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
This team looks awful. They were expected to contend for the playoffs. TO has looked much better than expected. He's certainly not being diplomatic but he's never been known for that. He's right though.
Resident A
Footballguy
Head-to-Head does not come into play for Draft Order. If both Cincy & Carolina are 2-14, it comes down to strength of schedule & common opponents. It won't matter that Cincy beat Carolina this year.
footballnerd
Footballguy
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Laughed when I read that. Katie actually looks like a boy.(she does look-ah like-ah man)
And on Marvin going to Houston, the Hot rumor on Sirius yesterday was Cowher going to Houston.
Maybe Kubs goes back to Denver then?
I can see marvin going to SF....just my opinion.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
I know this thread is about TO, but I heard an interview with Ryan Clark this week and he said that Ocho was almost in tears before the game talking about the frustration of losing for so long in Cincy. It was interesting to hear. Sounds like Chad's public persona might be a lot different from who the guy really is.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
I've heard rumors that Marvin is interested in the Pitt job.Laughed when I read that. Katie actually looks like a boy.(she does look-ah like-ah man)
And on Marvin going to Houston, the Hot rumor on Sirius yesterday was Cowher going to Houston.
Maybe Kubs goes back to Denver then?
I can see marvin going to SF....just my opinion.
zoonation
Footballguy
He is the second most prolific receiver of all-time.And, the rest of your post is 100% pure conjecture. "He destroys teams and individual confidence". Unless you played on one of the teams and have personal experience, how can you possibly make this statement.
Flame on, haters.
Edit to add: The thread title is misleading. It should be more clear that it is the OP's opinion and not factual.
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guest 1553
Footballguy
I know they're going to get run in the first round, but do you really think Tomlin will get fired? Seems a little harsh...I've heard rumors that Marvin is interested in the Pitt job.Laughed when I read that. Katie actually looks like a boy.
And on Marvin going to Houston, the Hot rumor on Sirius yesterday was Cowher going to Houston.
Maybe Kubs goes back to Denver then?
I can see marvin going to SF....just my opinion.
Spike
Footballguy
Oh, so you think TO and the coaching staff will be staying.
And, the rest of your post is 100% pure conjecture. "He destroys teams and individual confidence". Unless you played on one of the teams and have personal experience, how can you possibly make this statement.
Flame on, haters.
Edit to add: The thread title is misleading. It should be more clear that it is the OP's opinion and not factual.
We'll see whether your crystal ball is better than mine.
jsharlan
Footballguy
Kubiak won't be fired. McNair will make him hire a proven DC with no Denver connection and give him one more year.Laughed when I read that. Katie actually looks like a boy.
And on Marvin going to Houston, the Hot rumor on Sirius yesterday was Cowher going to Houston.
Maybe Kubs goes back to Denver then?
I can see marvin going to SF....just my opinion.
timschochet
Footballguy
Hoping for some insight here. Not that I understand anything about pro football particularly well, but this is really one thing I'm completely confused by. Here you have the Bengals, who were very good all last year, and made the playoffs. This year they have the same collection of players and coaches, yet they're awful. But not too awful- they're usually competitive in most games. Yet where they were pulling these games out last year, this year they're losing them.
On the other hand, take Kansas City. Last year they were dreadful. This year they have a competitive team, and again it's with pretty much the same collection of players and coaches. What are the significant factors we can point to? What makes these teams good one year, bad the next, or vice-versa?
On the other hand, take Kansas City. Last year they were dreadful. This year they have a competitive team, and again it's with pretty much the same collection of players and coaches. What are the significant factors we can point to? What makes these teams good one year, bad the next, or vice-versa?
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While no one can tell the future, the chances of the Bengals not re-signing T.O. are about the same as the sun coming up tomorrow morning. The Bengals dont tolerate public criticism. The organization is run like a mom and pop gas station with so called loyalty being high on the list. With all the other shake-ups (new coach, possibly new qb, HOPEFULLY FINALLY A GM!), the Bengals will be in rebuilding mode and T.O. just aint worth the hassle.He is the second most prolific receiver of all-time.
And, the rest of your post is 100% pure conjecture. "He destroys teams and individual confidence". Unless you played on one of the teams and have personal experience, how can you possibly make this statement.
Flame on, haters.
Edit to add: The thread title is misleading. It should be more clear that it is the OP's opinion and not factual.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
[lesson]Pitt is the University of Pittsburgh.I know they're going to get run in the first round, but do you really think Tomlin will get fired? Seems a little harsh...I've heard rumors that Marvin is interested in the Pitt job.Laughed when I read that. Katie actually looks like a boy.
And on Marvin going to Houston, the Hot rumor on Sirius yesterday was Cowher going to Houston.
Maybe Kubs goes back to Denver then?
I can see marvin going to SF....just my opinion.
Pitt is not the Steelers.
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I know they're going to get run in the first round, but do you really think Tomlin will get fired? Seems a little harsh...I've heard rumors that Marvin is interested in the Pitt job.Laughed when I read that. Katie actually looks like a boy.
And on Marvin going to Houston, the Hot rumor on Sirius yesterday was Cowher going to Houston.
Maybe Kubs goes back to Denver then?
I can see marvin going to SF....just my opinion.
Just like the Cowboys got run in the playoffs last year, right? #######.fantasizing
Footballguy
Those are very good questions. I'd like an answer from the so-called "football experts" on this too. One thing about the Bengals this year versus last year is that their defense is much worse this year. They've had many injuries in the secondary which has allowed opposing teams to score early and often on them, forcing the Bengals to come from behind in the 2nd half of games. Many times, the Bengals have come close to making the complete comeback, but most times, they've failed. This is a very low percentage way of winning games. Furthermore, because they are throwing alot when trying to stage a comeback, Palmer is forced to make throws that are risky, hence the high number of interceptions.Last year, the Bengals defense was solid (in fact, one of the best), and the offense was very conservative. Palmer was making "safe" throws to move the chains because their running game was very effective.
what about when ocho was highly critical of the organization and rather than trade him for an alleged 1st+3rd (that could escalate to another 1st) they signed him to a huge contract? then they let the good soldier housh walk rather than shell out a bit less money.
most of the difference is simple. bengals ran hot, ie were fortunate, in close games last year and have been less fortunate in similar games this year. this is compounded by facing one of the hardest schedules in the league this yr compared to one of the easiest last year.
