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Sometimes my faith in the logic of humanity is shaken... (1 Viewer)

BuffaloWings

BuffaloWings

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I open my inbox this morning and see the following trade offer:

I give: Cam Newton, Calvin Johnson, Steve Johnson

I get: Darrius Heyward-Bey, Thomas Jones, Vikings Defense

:eek: :wall: :no:

WTF?!? What possesses some people to make these asinine offers? Are they hoping that they might hit the lottery and will find someone who is tripping on acid and will pretty much accept anything thrown at them? Or maybe this is just the type of person who likes to elicit responses from people by making ridiculous offers to other players in his league. Stir the pot.

How do you handle offers like this? Ignore them? Say something? String him along? I am trying to come up with a clever response, but I really just want to be blunt with my response about the idiocy of such an offer.

 
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I'll admit, I have asked straight up for Larry Fitzagerald for Ben Roethlisberger and later apologized but that's just not cool on any level.

 
'BuffaloWings said:
How do you handle offers like this?
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"I am intrigued by your offer and I will accept it on the condition that we add the following players to the mix:I give: [backup WR], [backup RB], [2nd tier defense]I get: [best player on his team], [2nd best player on his team], [backup WR]With this trade I am sure that we will both end up playing each other in the fantasy Super Bowl!"
 
'BuffaloWings said:
I open my inbox this morning and see the following trade offer:I give: Cam Newton, Calvin Johnson, Steve JohnsonI get: Darrius Heyward-Bey, Thomas Jones, Vikings Defense :eek: :wall: :no: WTF?!? What possesses some people to make these asinine offers? Are they hoping that they might hit the lottery and will find someone who is tripping on acid and will pretty much accept anything thrown at them? Or maybe this is just the type of person who likes to elicit responses from people by making ridiculous offers to other players in his league. Stir the pot. How do you handle offers like this? Ignore them? Say something? String him along? I am trying to come up with a clever response, but I really just want to be blunt with my response about the idiocy of such an offer.
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I have one particular owner in my league who consistently makes bad offers like this every year. We're thinking of kicking him out. It's too bad because out of 8 years he's been in the playoffs like 5 times, but he just keeps pissing people off and it's becoming a big hassle.Earlier this year he offered me his Burleson and Sims-Walker for Brady and Welker. :lmao:
 
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'Luke Skywalker said:
I have one particular owner in my league who consistently makes bad offers like this every year. We're thinking of kicking him out. It's too bad because out of 8 years he's been in the playoffs like 5 times, but he just keeps pissing people off and it's becoming a big hassle.Earlier this year he offered me his Burleson and Sims-Walker for Brady and Welker. :lmao:
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And did you gracefully decline his offer? Or did you throw the gauntlet down in your decline? ;)
 
Accept the trade and let it get veto'd.

The other guy will go from over the moon to face first in dog poop within hours.

 
'rizzler said:
Accept the trade and let it get veto'd.The other guy will go from over the moon to face first in dog poop within hours.
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That's an interesting approach, but that is a huge gamble too. I would be face first in dog poop if it didn't get vetoed in time. :loco:
 
'BuffaloWings said:
And did you gracefully decline his offer? Or did you throw the gauntlet down in your decline? ;)
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this is a Yahoo league, so I just hit the button that says decline trade.In the past I have responded with some correspondingly insulting counter-offer but he doesn't seem to get it. he's been told numerous times to stop proposing these kinds of trades so he knows better, everybody has had it with him. I see no problem in kicking a guy out who is always stirring up trouble.
 
{devil's advocate}

Just send him a counter offer.

Make it equally absurd, offer Pierre Thomas for Adrian Peterson. Or make an offer that would be worth your while, or maybe one that would help both teams. Or something. For instance you wouldn't trade Steve Johnson for anything? Nothing could make you trade Steve Johnson?

There are regularly threads about people who won't trade and leagues that don't trade. And then there are threads about people who get ticked when they receive bad trade offers.

As to "What possesses some people...": well probably being 0-7, 1-6 or 2-5 and having mere hours to make something happen, or maybe it's a 2-3 pints of beer. Next week you probably won't even hear from that guy, even when you try to trade for one of his bench players.

Dunno, just making sense of the whole crazy thing.

 
'BuffaloWings said:
I open my inbox this morning and see the following trade offer:I give: Cam Newton, Calvin Johnson, Steve JohnsonI get: Darrius Heyward-Bey, Thomas Jones, Vikings Defense :eek: :wall: :no: WTF?!? What possesses some people to make these asinine offers? Are they hoping that they might hit the lottery and will find someone who is tripping on acid and will pretty much accept anything thrown at them? Or maybe this is just the type of person who likes to elicit responses from people by making ridiculous offers to other players in his league. Stir the pot. How do you handle offers like this? Ignore them? Say something? String him along? I am trying to come up with a clever response, but I really just want to be blunt with my response about the idiocy of such an offer.
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they are hoping you accidentally hit the reply button or you don't care about the season any more and like the action of making a trade.
 
I would probably counter with a fair offer for one of the three players he is seeking (and expect it to be declined).

I'm not a believer in "paying them back" by sending an "insulting" offer. You never know when you might need to trade with someone, and that response will burn bridges. I don't like to burn bridges in season.

 
I usually send offers like that with a message saying "these are the players I'm interested in, counter me with which players on my team you are interested in."

People get mad as hell sometimes and just click reject before even getting to the message haha

 
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'sspunisher said:
I usually send offers like that with a message saying "these are the players I'm interested in, counter me with which players on my team you are interested in."People get mad as hell sometimes and just click reject before even getting to the message haha
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Wouldn't an email or PM be a better method of communication?
 
'Hoss_Cartwright said:
'sspunisher said:
I usually send offers like that with a message saying "these are the players I'm interested in, counter me with which players on my team you are interested in."People get mad as hell sometimes and just click reject before even getting to the message haha
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Wouldn't an email or PM be a better method of communication?
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This is why i LOVE playing in a league with the same guys from highschool for the past 10+yrs.Everything is done via phone, text, etc... Any shadiness is called out immediately (and basically is non-existent now)I know not everyone has that luxury, but damn, is it ever worth it.
 
Not in this particular league. Can't even believe its still alive. No one answers texts, checks their emails. But hey, they keep putting money in and my team is stacked so I go with the flow.

 
So someone sent you a joke/bad trade proposal?

You can either:

A) ignore it

B) send a joke/bad trade proposal back

C) get all indignant about it, dwell on it, create a thread about it, and let it eat away at your soul until the end of the season.

D) laugh it off - it's just a game ####er.

 
'mdlane said:
I would probably counter with a fair offer for one of the three players he is seeking (and expect it to be declined).

I'm not a believer in "paying them back" by sending an "insulting" offer. You never know when you might need to trade with someone, and that response will burn bridges. I don't like to burn bridges in season.
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In theory, that makes sense, but I have been in leagues since 1995 and I have never yet gotten a fair trade offer or been able to work out a deal with people who consistently try to low ball me. Bottom line is that these people will never trade with you unless it completely to their advantage and if you get in a situation where they are the only viable trade option, you will discover that is when they really start to turn the screws. IMO it is better to just tell to go to hell to begin with and then you won't have to continually deal with their insulting offer of the week.
 
'BusterTBronco said:
I've never understood why people take unbalanced trade offers as a personal affront. So the guy thought you might be a sucker who would accept this trade. Because of that, your "faith in humanity" is shaken? Seriously? Maybe you need to move on and play in a no trades league if you can't handle it.
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Obviously the title of my thread is hyperbolic. I just like to hear anecdotes about how people handle these types of situations.
 
'T J said:
Not thread-worthy.
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I think it is.... if I were you, I wouldn't respond to unworthy threads though. Just a tip. :P
'HF21 said:
So someone sent you a joke/bad trade proposal? You can either:A) ignore itB) send a joke/bad trade proposal backC) get all indignant about it, dwell on it, create a thread about it, and let it eat away at your soul until the end of the season.D) laugh it off - it's just a game ####er.
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As I said in a previous post, the title of my thread is hyperbolic, but I do like to hear stories about how people handles these types of situations. There is nothing indignant about it. And I certainly am not letting it eat at my soul until the end of the season .... just for the next few hours or so. ;)
 
Funny I ran across this thread today... I just got the following offer ( in PPR league ):

I give:

Matt Forte

Miles Austin

I get:

LaGarette Blount

Preston Parker

Santanio Holmes

Isaac Redman

I respectfully declined with a counter of

I give:

Marion Barber

Santana Moss

Mario Manningham

Christian Ponder

I get:

Drew Brees

Rob Gronkowski

I sit in anticipation of closing this deal!

In my experience, nothing ever comes of dealing with owners that put out such low-ball offers. Might as well play along. :boxing:

 
'BusterTBronco said:
I've never understood why people take unbalanced trade offers as a personal affront. So the guy thought you might be a sucker who would accept this trade. Because of that, your "faith in humanity" is shaken? Seriously? Maybe you need to move on and play in a no trades league if you can't handle it.
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:goodposting: And another dude is ready to kick a guy out just for making insulting offers even though from all accounts he sounds like a reasonable owner (made playoffs 5 of 8 years). Mindboggling
 
'squistion said:
'mdlane said:
I would probably counter with a fair offer for one of the three players he is seeking (and expect it to be declined).

I'm not a believer in "paying them back" by sending an "insulting" offer. You never know when you might need to trade with someone, and that response will burn bridges. I don't like to burn bridges in season.
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In theory, that makes sense, but I have been in leagues since 1995 and I have never yet gotten a fair trade offer or been able to work out a deal with people who consistently try to low ball me. Bottom line is that these people will never trade with you unless it completely to their advantage and if you get in a situation where they are the only viable trade option, you will discover that is when they really start to turn the screws. IMO it is better to just tell to go to hell to begin with and then you won't have to continually deal with their insulting offer of the week.
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That's probably the outcome, but you never know.

Here's one of my experiences:

A couple weeks ago, I offered one guy Gore and Gronk for Rice. He responded with a counteroffer of Pierre Thomas for Gore/Gronk. I actually get like 3-4 trades done in most of my leagues each year so it's not as though I'm one of those "only trade when you win the trade" dudes. But there is no way in Hell I'll trade with that guy when he responds to what I think is at least a competitive offer with something clearly intended to be obnoxious and insulting. So he burned a bridge with me.

One man's treasure is another man's trash and all that .. you never know what someone will consider to be "winning" a trade.

 
'BuffaloWings said:
I open my inbox this morning and see the following trade offer:I give: Cam Newton, Calvin Johnson, Steve JohnsonI get: Darrius Heyward-Bey, Thomas Jones, Vikings Defense :eek: :wall: :no: WTF?!? What possesses some people to make these asinine offers? Are they hoping that they might hit the lottery and will find someone who is tripping on acid and will pretty much accept anything thrown at them? Or maybe this is just the type of person who likes to elicit responses from people by making ridiculous offers to other players in his league. Stir the pot. How do you handle offers like this? Ignore them? Say something? String him along? I am trying to come up with a clever response, but I really just want to be blunt with my response about the idiocy of such an offer.
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Some people take the approach that if they throw enough s* against the wall, tha eventually something will stick. You guys who waste energy getting offended by it crack me up. http://image.com.com/tv/images/content_headers/person_new/304808.jpg
 
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'rizzler said:
'BuffaloWings said:
'rizzler said:
Accept the trade and let it get veto'd.The other guy will go from over the moon to face first in dog poop within hours.
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That's an interesting approach, but that is a huge gamble too. I would be face first in dog poop if it didn't get vetoed in time. :loco:
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All depends on league veto rules.That trade, in any league, should be shot down with a 99% success rate.
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Wait a minute now. This is not collusion, so why would it be vetoed?
 
Why #####?

Every trade offer should start with a lowball offer.

You don't like it then counter. Then he might counter and so on and so on.

Possibly a trade gets worked out but what he does is so how much you value the players he wants and then it goes from there

 
'spodog said:
'BuffaloWings said:
I open my inbox this morning and see the following trade offer:I give: Cam Newton, Calvin Johnson, Steve JohnsonI get: Darrius Heyward-Bey, Thomas Jones, Vikings Defense :eek: :wall: :no: WTF?!? What possesses some people to make these asinine offers? Are they hoping that they might hit the lottery and will find someone who is tripping on acid and will pretty much accept anything thrown at them? Or maybe this is just the type of person who likes to elicit responses from people by making ridiculous offers to other players in his league. Stir the pot. How do you handle offers like this? Ignore them? Say something? String him along? I am trying to come up with a clever response, but I really just want to be blunt with my response about the idiocy of such an offer.
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Some people take the approach that if they throw enough s* against the wall, tha eventually something will stick. You guys who waste energy getting offended by it crack me up. http://image.com.com/tv/images/content_headers/person_new/304808.jpg
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There's got to be at least one DHB believer out there!
 
'BusterTBronco said:
I've never understood why people take unbalanced trade offers as a personal affront. So the guy thought you might be a sucker who would accept this trade. Because of that, your "faith in humanity" is shaken? Seriously? Maybe you need to move on and play in a no trades league if you can't handle it.
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You've never understood why people take it as a personal affront when someone else thinks they might be a sucker? Really?
 
'Jules Winnfield said:
Why #####?Every trade offer should start with a lowball offer.You don't like it then counter. Then he might counter and so on and so on.Possibly a trade gets worked out but what he does is so how much you value the players he wants and then it goes from there
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Every trade offer should start with something that can legitimately help both teams.
 
"Hey dude, just wanted to give you a headsup that it looks like your account must've been hacked. Some nutball got in there and look at the idiotic trade offer he sent me."

 
'Jules Winnfield said:
Why #####?Every trade offer should start with a lowball offer.You don't like it then counter. Then he might counter and so on and so on.Possibly a trade gets worked out but what he does is so how much you value the players he wants and then it goes from there
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No offense but typically you are the type of poster who complains that trades never get done in their league. If you start that off like that then alot of people (similar to the ones that posted in this thred)don't bother to make a real counter offer becuase fopr some reason they get insulted. Hopefully you see that by the responses in here.The right answer is: "Sorry, I don't see how this helps my team get better. I would be interested in players A, B, C on your team and I am willing to give players X,Y,Z for those players. Please let me know if you see anything that may work. Thanks again for the offer."Why burn bridges?
 
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'shadyridr said:
And another dude is ready to kick a guy out just for making insulting offers even though from all accounts he sounds like a reasonable owner (made playoffs 5 of 8 years). Mindboggling
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Dude, almost everybody wants him out.
 
'BuffaloWings said:
I open my inbox this morning and see the following trade offer:I give: Cam Newton, Calvin Johnson, Steve JohnsonI get: Darrius Heyward-Bey, Thomas Jones, Vikings Defense :eek: :wall: :no: WTF?!? What possesses some people to make these asinine offers? Are they hoping that they might hit the lottery and will find someone who is tripping on acid and will pretty much accept anything thrown at them? Or maybe this is just the type of person who likes to elicit responses from people by making ridiculous offers to other players in his league. Stir the pot. How do you handle offers like this? Ignore them? Say something? String him along? I am trying to come up with a clever response, but I really just want to be blunt with my response about the idiocy of such an offer.
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I mean really? You are probably being facetious but you must be real young. Wait until you get older, then you will lose faith in all of humanity and take 35 Vicodin pills like T.O.
 
I've done this before to get an opponent to make a lineup change at the last minute and try to play the opposing players' matchups to my advantage. The goal is not to have the trade accepted but rather to send a subliminal message that their player is extremely valuable. Creating artificial demand can get a bench player in the starting lineup or keep a starter with a horrible matchup in the lineup. About 60% of the time, it works every time.

 
'davearm said:
'Jules Winnfield said:
Why #####?Every trade offer should start with a lowball offer.You don't like it then counter. Then he might counter and so on and so on.Possibly a trade gets worked out but what he does is so how much you value the players he wants and then it goes from there
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Every trade offer should start with something that can legitimately help both teams.
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Exactly. I never respond to lowball offers with a counter - because it serves no purpose if what you are being offered is not even a realistic starting point in negotiations. All a lowball offer does is label that owner as someone who is trying to take advantage of me, and I look thru that prism with any future offer I get from them.
 
How do you handle offers like this? Ignore them? Say something? String him along? I am trying to come up with a clever response, but I really just want to be blunt with my response about the idiocy of such an offer.
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Here is what you need to do: drink a beer, say "no thank you", and forget about it.
 
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