Source: Broncos tender Marshall (1 Viewer)

[Faust]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4962387

The Denver Broncos have tendered wide receiver Brandon Marshall with a first-round tender, a source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

That means if another team makes Marshall a contract offer during the free-agency period beginning Friday and the Broncos fail to match it, the Broncos will receive a first-round draft pick as compensation.

The Broncos also slapped first-round tenders on starting quarterback Kyle Orton and right guard Chris Kuper.

They also gave a second-round tender to tight end Tony Scheffler.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

WHat does Brandon Marshall get in terms of money?

How bout Kyle Orton? Is there a limit of 1st round tenders you can throw out? Why not put all your players on 1st round tenders?

 

[Buffaloes]

They tendered Marshall with just a 1st? Guess they really are done with him. Dumb move imo. Why not give him the high tender of 1st and a 3rd. I am surprised they slapped Scheffler with the 2nd round tender. I figured he was as good as gone.

 

[Garts]

If I was a team with a draft pick in the late 20's of the 1st round I would sign Marshall if you needed a WR1.

why not?

 

[Buffaloes]

If I was a team with a draft pick in the late 20's of the 1st round I would sign Marshall if you needed a WR1.why not?

That's exactly what I was thinking. He's as good as gone and it makes me cringe to think he'll probably be unloaded for less than what Detroit received for Roy Williams. I don't like the move at all. He was the offensive MVP last year imo.

 

[Spiderman]

If I was a team with a draft pick in the late 20's of the 1st round I would sign Marshall if you needed a WR1.why not?

My guess would be some teams don't want to give him a huge deal, and then to have worry about attitude and/or off the field issues.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

If I was a team with a draft pick in the late 20's of the 1st round I would sign Marshall if you needed a WR1.why not?

Seems like Baltimore is a perfect scenario

 

[Faust]

Adam_Schefter Filed to ESPN: Broncos tendered Pro Bowl LB Elvis Dumervil at a first- and third-round level. The tender carries a $3.168 million pricetag.

 

[SSOG]

WHat does Brandon Marshall get in terms of money?How bout Kyle Orton? Is there a limit of 1st round tenders you can throw out? Why not put all your players on 1st round tenders?

I'm not sure if there's a limit, but I do know that how much you have to pay a player depends on how highly you tender him. If the Broncos tendered Scheffler at the 1st round limit and he stuck around, they'd be on the hook for more money.

 

[Faust]

If Marshall is as good as gone - where does that place Eddie Royal's value at?

 

[Sabertooth]

Brandon is one slip up away from a year long vacation.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

They are just protecting their assets. Scheffler can still probably be had for a 3rd or 4th.

The 1st on Marshall probably shows his value on the market. They clearly would take a first for him. It would be pretty unlikely that one of the final 4 teams would sign him too based on the new cba rules. So they are essentially saying they'd take a top 27 pick for him.

 

[Da Guru]

If I was a team with a draft pick in the late 20's of the 1st round I would sign Marshall if you needed a WR1.why not?

Seems like Baltimore is a perfect scenario

I agree. Why sign an old trouble maker like TO when you get get a young one in Marshall.

 

[FavreCo]

If I was a team with a draft pick in the late 20's of the 1st round I would sign Marshall if you needed a WR1.why not?

The Jets at 29 should consider this a steal.

 

[Kiddnets]

If I was a team with a draft pick in the late 20's of the 1st round I would sign Marshall if you needed a WR1.why not?

The Jets at 29 should consider this a steal.

I thought I remember reading somewhere that the final 8 teams could not sign RFAs? Not sure though

 

[Donnybrook]

Final four teams are allowed to make trades. Wouldn't that be a catch 22 if final four teams weren't allowed to sign players they trade for?

 

[Sweetness_34]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...andon-marshall/

Rumors abound that Bears want Brandon Marshall

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 3, 2010 10:45 AM ET

Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall says he's willing to stay in Denver this year, Broncos owner Pat Bowlen says he wants to keep Marshall and Broncos coach Josh McDaniels thinks it can work.

And yet hardly anyone seems to think Marshall will be a Bronco in 2010.

The biggest question is which team would be the best landing spot for Marshall, and Neil Hayes of the Chicago Sun-Times reports that it could be the Bears. Hayes writes that Bears GM Jerry Angelo's comments about wide receiver not being a ''need'' position are viewed by many as a smoke screen, and that one NFL source wagered a steak dinner on Marshall being in a Bears uniform when camp opens.

We're not sure whether Hayes accepted the wager, or whether the Sun-Times allows its reporters to wager dinners with sources, but the bottom line is that the Bears are among the handful of teams that are consistently named as a potential suitor for Marshall's services.

Bears quarterback Jay Cutler had a good rapport with Marshall when they were teammates in Denver, and new Bears offensive coordinator Mike Martz would love to add a talented wide receiver to the offense. It's safe to say this won't be the last time we hear talk about the Bears acquiring Marshall.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...andon-marshall/

Rumors abound that Bears want Brandon Marshall

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 3, 2010 10:45 AM ET

Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall says he's willing to stay in Denver this year, Broncos owner Pat Bowlen says he wants to keep Marshall and Broncos coach Josh McDaniels thinks it can work.

And yet hardly anyone seems to think Marshall will be a Bronco in 2010.

The biggest question is which team would be the best landing spot for Marshall, and Neil Hayes of the Chicago Sun-Times reports that it could be the Bears. Hayes writes that Bears GM Jerry Angelo's comments about wide receiver not being a ''need'' position are viewed by many as a smoke screen, and that one NFL source wagered a steak dinner on Marshall being in a Bears uniform when camp opens.

We're not sure whether Hayes accepted the wager, or whether the Sun-Times allows its reporters to wager dinners with sources, but the bottom line is that the Bears are among the handful of teams that are consistently named as a potential suitor for Marshall's services.

Bears quarterback Jay Cutler had a good rapport with Marshall when they were teammates in Denver, and new Bears offensive coordinator Mike Martz would love to add a talented wide receiver to the offense. It's safe to say this won't be the last time we hear talk about the Bears acquiring Marshall.

CHicago might want to think about building an OL

 

[Buffaloes]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...andon-marshall/

Rumors abound that Bears want Brandon Marshall

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 3, 2010 10:45 AM ET

Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall says he's willing to stay in Denver this year, Broncos owner Pat Bowlen says he wants to keep Marshall and Broncos coach Josh McDaniels thinks it can work.

And yet hardly anyone seems to think Marshall will be a Bronco in 2010.

The biggest question is which team would be the best landing spot for Marshall, and Neil Hayes of the Chicago Sun-Times reports that it could be the Bears. Hayes writes that Bears GM Jerry Angelo's comments about wide receiver not being a ''need'' position are viewed by many as a smoke screen, and that one NFL source wagered a steak dinner on Marshall being in a Bears uniform when camp opens.

We're not sure whether Hayes accepted the wager, or whether the Sun-Times allows its reporters to wager dinners with sources, but the bottom line is that the Bears are among the handful of teams that are consistently named as a potential suitor for Marshall's services.

Bears quarterback Jay Cutler had a good rapport with Marshall when they were teammates in Denver, and new Bears offensive coordinator Mike Martz would love to add a talented wide receiver to the offense. It's safe to say this won't be the last time we hear talk about the Bears acquiring Marshall.

I don't see it for 2 reasons:1.) Chicago doesn't relly have anything to offer for Marshall

2.) Imagine the PR nightmare for Denver if Chicago had great success behind Cutler-Marshall and Denver continued to struggle. The Broncos have to take that into consideration.

 

[EBF]

The Ravens should get this done. It's a no-brainer for them.

 

[MDSkinner]

The Ravens should get this done. It's a no-brainer for them.

As much as I would love to see him as a Bear, this really just makes sense.

 

[munchkin]

Brandon is one slip up away from a year long vacation.

I believe Jared Allen was in the same situation when the Vikings traded for him. A perspective team will be taking a similar risk.

 

[Donnybrook]

The Ravens should get this done. It's a no-brainer for them.

Is it? Marshall will want basically double the guaranteed money and a much shorter contract than a rookie WR.

 

[EBF]

The Ravens should get this done. It's a no-brainer for them.

Is it? Marshall will want basically double the guaranteed money and a much shorter contract than a rookie WR.

The Ravens are a contender. Marshall is a 26 year old true #1 WR coming off three straight 100+ reception seasons. "Pay him. Pay that man his money."

 

[Bronco Binkley]

The Broncos have the right to match the offer for Marshall. Unless the 1st round pick is high enough they may match it.

 

[Donnybrook]

The Ravens should get this done. It's a no-brainer for them.

Is it? Marshall will want basically double the guaranteed money and a much shorter contract than a rookie WR.

The Ravens are a contender. Marshall is a 26 year old true #1 WR coming off three straight 100+ reception seasons. "Pay him. Pay that man his money."

Ravens are final 8 team. I don't know enough to say for sure whether a Marshall trade will handcuff them later in free agency. I don't know who will fall in the draft. IMO, it is far from a no-brainer.

 

[ty247]

The Ravens should get this done. It's a no-brainer for them.

Is it? Marshall will want basically double the guaranteed money and a much shorter contract than a rookie WR.

The Ravens are a contender. Marshall is a 26 year old true #1 WR coming off three straight 100+ reception seasons. "Pay him. Pay that man his money."

Rounders Reference!

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

Please goto the Raiders. Please goto the Raiders.

 

[Sweetness_34]

The Ravens should get this done. It's a no-brainer for them.

Is it? Marshall will want basically double the guaranteed money and a much shorter contract than a rookie WR.

The Ravens are a contender. Marshall is a 26 year old true #1 WR coming off three straight 100+ reception seasons. "Pay him. Pay that man his money."

That changes every year. Some day people will understand ~50% of playoffs team change from year to year and there are always teams with a 2-14 record that gets to the playoffs next year.

 

[Sleeping King]

The Broncos have the right to match the offer for Marshall. Unless the 1st round pick is high enough they may match it.

Exactly. Everyone keeps acting like any team can just have him for a 1st round pick. Any team that makes an offer is likely going to have to go over market value for the Broncos not to match unless we are talking a top 12ish pick which has about 0% chance of happening.

 

[Donnybrook]

I found the answer to whether a final 8 could trade for a RFA:

Still, many are under the mistaken impression that the Ravens, as a Final 8 team, are not able to trade for a player of Marshall’s pedigree or sign him to a long term deal that would violate the Final 8 restrictions. Happily for the Ravens, those restrictions only apply to UFAs, not RFAs (like Marshall, Vincent Jackson, Miles Austin) or players currently under contract (like Anquan Boldin or Dwayne Bowe).

The trade provisions of the Final 8 Plan are only in place to prevent teams from attempting to circumvent the Final 8 restrictions by trading for a player, who it would have otherwise been unable to sign as a UFA, after that player has signed with another team first.

http://www.profootball24x7.com/column_view...mp;view=archive

 

[Buckna]

As much as I love Marshall, it's far from a no brainer. You're probably going to have to pay him Roy Williams type money: 6 years, $54 Million with $26 million guaranteed PLUS 2 years of nfl contract inflation and you're going to have to give up a first round draft pick. All this for a guy who has yes, proven to be a great WR on the field, but is also one strike away from a year long suspension.

For comparison, the Ravens have pick #25. Last years pick #25 Vontae Davis contract was 5 years, 10.25M with 7.3M guaranteed. Yeah, the guy you take could bust, but at least you aren't wasting tons of money on him relatively speaking.

I happen to think he's worth trading for, but you better do your due dilligence to find out if he's straightened up off the field and that those antics in pre-season last year were either blown way out of proportion by the media or he's matured since then.

 

[Faust]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...andon-marshall/

Rumors abound that Bears want Brandon Marshall

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 3, 2010 10:45 AM ET

Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall says he's willing to stay in Denver this year, Broncos owner Pat Bowlen says he wants to keep Marshall and Broncos coach Josh McDaniels thinks it can work.

And yet hardly anyone seems to think Marshall will be a Bronco in 2010.

The biggest question is which team would be the best landing spot for Marshall, and Neil Hayes of the Chicago Sun-Times reports that it could be the Bears. Hayes writes that Bears GM Jerry Angelo's comments about wide receiver not being a ''need'' position are viewed by many as a smoke screen, and that one NFL source wagered a steak dinner on Marshall being in a Bears uniform when camp opens.

We're not sure whether Hayes accepted the wager, or whether the Sun-Times allows its reporters to wager dinners with sources, but the bottom line is that the Bears are among the handful of teams that are consistently named as a potential suitor for Marshall's services.

Bears quarterback Jay Cutler had a good rapport with Marshall when they were teammates in Denver, and new Bears offensive coordinator Mike Martz would love to add a talented wide receiver to the offense. It's safe to say this won't be the last time we hear talk about the Bears acquiring Marshall.

I don't see it for 2 reasons:1.) Chicago doesn't relly have anything to offer for Marshall

2.) Imagine the PR nightmare for Denver if Chicago had great success behind Cutler-Marshall and Denver continued to struggle. The Broncos have to take that into consideration.

Reason three as per Adam Schefter on twitter:Somebody explain to me how the Bears trade for WR Brandon Marshall when they don't have first- or second-round picks. Not happening.

 

[metoo]

The Ravens would be a good match on and off the field.

 

[SSOG]

Reason three as per Adam Schefter on twitter:Somebody explain to me how the Bears trade for WR Brandon Marshall when they don't have first- or second-round picks. Not happening.

Maybe we could convince them to trade back Cutler in exchange for Orton and Marshall.

 

[az_prof]

The Ravens should get this done. It's a no-brainer for them.

Is it? Marshall will want basically double the guaranteed money and a much shorter contract than a rookie WR.

The Ravens are a contender. Marshall is a 26 year old true #1 WR coming off three straight 100+ reception seasons. "Pay him. Pay that man his money."

EBG: you are dead on. What is BA's pick? 25th? The odds that they draft a player at that spot who can make the immediate AND long term impact that Marshall would is slim. And they are basically a WR away from being a Championship team. They have a good OL, great HB, good QB, and good D. But what they have lacked is a great WR1.

 

[Christo]

As much as I love Marshall, it's far from a no brainer. You're probably going to have to pay him Roy Williams type money: 6 years, $54 Million with $26 million guaranteed PLUS 2 years of nfl contract inflation and you're going to have to give up a first round draft pick. All this for a guy who has yes, proven to be a great WR on the field, but is also one strike away from a year long suspension.For comparison, the Ravens have pick #25. Last years pick #25 Vontae Davis contract was 5 years, 10.25M with 7.3M guaranteed. Yeah, the guy you take could bust, but at least you aren't wasting tons of money on him relatively speaking.I happen to think he's worth trading for, but you better do your due dilligence to find out if he's straightened up off the field and that those antics in pre-season last year were either blown way out of proportion by the media or he's matured since then.

Couldn't they just structure the contract so he forfeits part of his signing bonus if he gets suspended?

 

[Kev4029]

As much as I love Marshall, it's far from a no brainer. You're probably going to have to pay him Roy Williams type money: 6 years, $54 Million with $26 million guaranteed PLUS 2 years of nfl contract inflation and you're going to have to give up a first round draft pick. All this for a guy who has yes, proven to be a great WR on the field, but is also one strike away from a year long suspension.For comparison, the Ravens have pick #25. Last years pick #25 Vontae Davis contract was 5 years, 10.25M with 7.3M guaranteed. Yeah, the guy you take could bust, but at least you aren't wasting tons of money on him relatively speaking.I happen to think he's worth trading for, but you better do your due dilligence to find out if he's straightened up off the field and that those antics in pre-season last year were either blown way out of proportion by the media or he's matured since then.

Couldn't they just structure the contract so he forfeits part of his signing bonus if he gets suspended?

I'm not 100% sure, but during training camp when he was looking for a contract, there was some question about this issue. If I remember something like that isn't allowed in the CBA, could be wrong though.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

If I was a team with a draft pick in the late 20's of the 1st round I would sign Marshall if you needed a WR1.why not?

Seems like Baltimore is a perfect scenario

Washington sounds like a good fit...

 

[Sleeping King]

If I was a team with a draft pick in the late 20's of the 1st round I would sign Marshall if you needed a WR1.why not?

Seems like Baltimore is a perfect scenario

Washington sounds like a good fit...

Zero chance he goes to Washington unless they come to a different agreement on compensation. 1.04>>>>Marshall

 

[Buckna]

As much as I love Marshall, it's far from a no brainer. You're probably going to have to pay him Roy Williams type money: 6 years, $54 Million with $26 million guaranteed PLUS 2 years of nfl contract inflation and you're going to have to give up a first round draft pick. All this for a guy who has yes, proven to be a great WR on the field, but is also one strike away from a year long suspension.For comparison, the Ravens have pick #25. Last years pick #25 Vontae Davis contract was 5 years, 10.25M with 7.3M guaranteed. Yeah, the guy you take could bust, but at least you aren't wasting tons of money on him relatively speaking.I happen to think he's worth trading for, but you better do your due dilligence to find out if he's straightened up off the field and that those antics in pre-season last year were either blown way out of proportion by the media or he's matured since then.

Couldn't they just structure the contract so he forfeits part of his signing bonus if he gets suspended?

I'm not 100% sure, but during training camp when he was looking for a contract, there was some question about this issue. If I remember something like that isn't allowed in the CBA, could be wrong though.

IIRC correctly, Vick is the only time that's happened and it wasn't in the contract, the Falcons went after it when he pleaded guilty. Vick's case was pretty complicated though. Pacman worked out a deal where he didn't have to pay it back but he forfeited some bonus money. That was worked out because he was traded away from the Titans before his original contract ran out and they wanted compensation to give him up. A player loses his game checks when suspended, but the team still has to pay them into like a fund for charity.If you were Marshall though, why would you agree to such a clause in your new contract? Unless you REALLY wanted to get out of Denver right now, but in that case, why not wait 1 year? I think the players union would raise a huge stink about it too.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

The Broncos have the right to match the offer for Marshall. Unless the 1st round pick is high enough they may match it.

Thisunless there is a poison pill of somekind Denver matches

 

[finito]

[if you were Marshall though, why would you agree to such a clause in your new contract? Unless you REALLY wanted to get out of Denver right now, but in that case, why not wait 1 year? I think the players union would raise a huge stink about it too.

From an NFL team's standpoint, I would have a hard time paying top WR money to a guy like Marshall unless there was a way to get back money if he slips up and is out of football. Way too much risk for a guy who is one step away from being out of the sport for a long time. I mean giving up a 1st rounder and losing all that $ would be devastating if he was arrested a week after getting on the team. If the CBA doesn't allow for a clause allowing the team to recoup its $ if Marshall acts up, I would pass and go for a less talented but more level-headed WR.

 

[Sabertooth]

Brandon is one slip up away from a year long vacation.

I believe Jared Allen was in the same situation when the Vikings traded for him. A perspective team will be taking a similar risk.

Good point.

 

[SSOG]

IIRC correctly, Vick is the only time that's happened and it wasn't in the contract, the Falcons went after it when he pleaded guilty.

Denver got $600,000 off of Ashley Lelie after Lelie boycotted TCs and forced a trade. The Bucs went after $7 million from Jake Plummer after he unexpectedly retired early, although there was never a ruling on that case because it was settled out of court for $3.5 mil. I remember the Browns went after one of Donte Stallworth's roster bonuses last offseason, but I don't follow the Browns so I have no clue what the outcome was. There are definitely several examples of NFL franchises recouping bonus money in situations where it wasn't explicitly spelled out in the contract.

 

[SSOG]

The Broncos have the right to match the offer for Marshall. Unless the 1st round pick is high enough they may match it.

Thisunless there is a poison pill of somekind Denver matches

I think Denver would be more than happy to let Marshall walk for a 1st.

 

[salmonstud]

The Ravens should get this done. It's a no-brainer for them.

Is it? Marshall will want basically double the guaranteed money and a much shorter contract than a rookie WR.

The Ravens are a contender. Marshall is a 26 year old true #1 WR coming off three straight 100+ reception seasons. "Pay him. Pay that man his money."

Nice Rounders quote Funk.

 

[Catbird]

Brandon is one slip up away from a year long vacation.

I believe Jared Allen was in the same situation when the Vikings traded for him. A perspective team will be taking a similar risk.

Good point.

Jared Allen is a solid guy with an alcohol addiction. Brandon Marshall, despite the similar talent level, has (IMO) more of a personality disorder. While tough, a lot of guys control the first kind, very few the second.

 

[Buckna]

IIRC correctly, Vick is the only time that's happened and it wasn't in the contract, the Falcons went after it when he pleaded guilty.

Denver got $600,000 off of Ashley Lelie after Lelie boycotted TCs and forced a trade. The Bucs went after $7 million from Jake Plummer after he unexpectedly retired early, although there was never a ruling on that case because it was settled out of court for $3.5 mil. I remember the Browns went after one of Donte Stallworth's roster bonuses last offseason, but I don't follow the Browns so I have no clue what the outcome was. There are definitely several examples of NFL franchises recouping bonus money in situations where it wasn't explicitly spelled out in the contract.

I should have been more specific, I meant situations where a players conduct off the field resulted in a suspension and a team going after money. Wasn't really talking about Ricky Williams or Plummer or someone trying to get out of a contract early to go to another team. I don't think Travis Henry had to pay back any of his signing bonus, he just lost game checks.

 

[massraider]

Brandon is one slip up away from a year long vacation.

People are either not remembering this, or are forgetting just how important character is. The team exec that signs off on that move just might have his job tied to Marshall keeping his nose clean. It wasn't that long ago that this jagoff was kicking balls off the practice field, and basically behaving like a child. He played well once the season started? Well, sure. Free agency is coming up. Of course he is going to behave. Now, maybe he is a new man. Maybe he played nice this year because he is now a reliable, hard-working guy. But how can anyone know for sure.