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Charles has always made things "iffy" in regards to Ware. Nobody is doubting that--so I totally agree with you there. However--the reaction by some solely in regards to today's game is laughable at best. I don't know if a healthy Charles could have done much better than Ware did today considering how bad Smith played. Almost 9 yards per touch in a competitive game against a solid defense is pretty dang good.
I think the difference is Charles, even on a day like this, would have caught 5-7 passes and kept a few of those drives going.
Ware can't catch 5-7 passes with Smith only targeting him 3 times. He caught 2 of them for 48 and was wide open on a few more where Smith completely didn't see him. Even Charles would have been capped by how horrible Alex Smith played today. Heck--look at how bad Gurley looked week 1 with terrible qb play.
You could argue that Charles is a trusted receiver, and Ware is just a couple of games into being considered reliable for it. One great receiving game doesn't make you the first check-down option for a QB. With Charles, the QB is probably looking for him if things don't look right in the secondary.
Just my opinion as I've watched a lot of chiefs games with Charles and smith in recent years and it seems that when they play teams that they know can bother them defensively, they make a point to have a heavy dose of check downs and Charles usually has a good handful.
I was just going to say that. He's only getting a dozen touches a game. His output is incredible.
DWill has 303 yards on 68 touches.
The titles was from last season after Charles got hurt.At first the thread title annoyed me because it was obvious hyperbole, now it's a symbol of those in this thread that fell for week 1 overhype...by all means keep the title.
Lamar Miller has 214 yards on 59 touches.
Sub Charles for Ware and its every KC thread for the past couple of years. - signed, greedy Charles owner.
There are obviously major problems with his rehab/healing. These days, recovery time for an ACL tear is 8-10 months. Charles is now past 11 months and still isn't there. That certainly doesn't mean he won't fully recovered. He very well might. But considering he's 2 months from the dreaded "30", there is definitely cause for concern. We've also witnessed a ton of coach'-speak. Seems Charles is always a week away. I'll believe it when I see it. And considering how great Ware is playing, I'm sure the Chiefs don't care if he comes back or not. I'd be shocked if Charles is in the team next year.
They could certaiy cut him for cap purposes. Not sure of exact number and savings but its a business
His contract looks pretty friendly to me.
For a potential RB who may not be your feature back anymore? No not friendly. That would be an overpaid back up RB who is 30 years old going on 31 next season. If Charles makes a full recovery and plays at 85% of his previous level....I can maybe see them keeping him. But I doubt it. They are going to move on from Charles after this season IMO.
I think they're looking at it the same way the Cowboys are looking at Romo. If Prescott continues to improve, they aren't going to want to go back to Romo when he gets healthy. What is the point? If they know Prescott is their future and he's performing well already, putting Romo back in for 6 games this season and MAYBE one more is just stalling the future. If Ware wasn't producing at such a ridiculously efficient clip, then of course they'd want Charles back. But Ware is playing awesomely. And he's obviously in their future plans. Reid would never say it, but if Charles would have a setback at practice and miss the season, Reid wouldn't miss an hour of sleep. It would just make coaching easier for him. Less headaches and loyalty obligations.Um, no.
What if Charles returns to form or at least close to it (not a given but not exactly hard to imagine either), then wouldn't Andy Reid love to have both?
Ware is only getting 12 touches now. If Charles comes back and is still a threat, I could see him and Ware both getting around ten touches. West would be the odd man out.
I appreciate your point of view in regards to his actual recovery. I do think the Chiefs care that he comes back. Even if he comes back to 75% of what he once was--that's still a very dynamic player on the field for them (as well as for fantasy owners)--so I do disagree with you there.
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Sounds like they are playing it smart with him. No need to RG3 him and rush him back to work. How are the guards doing? What's their recovery time?
I would assume if Charles is very close to what he was pre-injury of course. He is a great talent and he is being paid to be a starter. At the very least it will be a full on RBBC if Charles indeed can come all the way back.
Most coaches do that when you fumble so I would think you are correct in that assumption.
