Sports Agents and the Franchise Tag (1 Viewer)

[Despyzer]

Drew Rosenhaus was just on the Dan Patrick Show talking about his client Lance Briggs. It got me to wondering, do agents get a cut if their client signs a franchise tag contract? After all, they really play no actual part in negotiating the contact; it either gets signed or it doesn't.

If not, could Rosenhaus be pulling Briggs' strings the way he did T.O.'s for no better reason than he stands to see a substantial financial gain for doing so?

 

[redman]

Agents' jobs go beyond negotiating contracts, so I'm sure that they get their percentage if the franchise tag is used. Even in the franchise tag situation, Rosenhaus himself has demonstrated that there's still room for negotiating with the club.

 

[Drew RosenhausFan]

F the franchise tag. multi year deal or he walks

 

[Despyzer]

Agents' jobs go beyond negotiating contracts, so I'm sure that they get their percentage if the franchise tag is used. Even in the franchise tag situation, Rosenhaus himself has demonstrated that there's still room for negotiating with the club.

I'm drawing a blank, enlighten me with an example. (I'm not challenging you. I honestly can't recall).

 

[PsychoMan]

F the franchise tag. multi year deal or he walks

no one likes you. give it up.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Shaun Alexander.

Negotiated with the team that if he signed the tag, he wouldn't be re-tagged.

 

[Despyzer]

Shaun Alexander.Negotiated with the team that if he signed the tag, he wouldn't be re-tagged.

And that was in the language of his franchise tag contract?

 

[BoltBacker]

could Rosenhaus be pulling Briggs' strings the way he did T.O.'s for no better reason than he stands to see a substantial financial gain for doing so?

Of course, but keep in mind he's getting a % of the $ Briggs is getting so if it's in Rosenhous's best interest it's also in Briggs best interest. They both would make a ton more $ if Briggs wasn't being franchised. That's not even debatable.

 

[redman]

Agents' jobs go beyond negotiating contracts, so I'm sure that they get their percentage if the franchise tag is used. Even in the franchise tag situation, Rosenhaus himself has demonstrated that there's still room for negotiating with the club.

I'm drawing a blank, enlighten me with an example. (I'm not challenging you. I honestly can't recall).

Using Lance Briggs' situation, Rosenhaus has both threatened to hold Briggs out for the first ten weeks of the season, and attempted to broker a trade to the Redskins in order to avoid the franchise tag.

 

[BoltBacker]

Agents' jobs go beyond negotiating contracts, so I'm sure that they get their percentage if the franchise tag is used. Even in the franchise tag situation, Rosenhaus himself has demonstrated that there's still room for negotiating with the club.

I'm drawing a blank, enlighten me with an example. (I'm not challenging you. I honestly can't recall).

Using Lance Briggs' situation, Rosenhaus has both threatened to hold Briggs out for the first ten weeks of the season, and attempted to broker a trade to the Redskins in order to avoid the franchise tag.

Briggs is an adult and makes his own decisions(including choosing Rosenhaus as an agent). If Briggs chooses to sit out the first ten weeks it may have been advised by Rosenhaus but it was decided by Briggs.

 

[JaxBill]

Agents' jobs go beyond negotiating contracts, so I'm sure that they get their percentage if the franchise tag is used. Even in the franchise tag situation, Rosenhaus himself has demonstrated that there's still room for negotiating with the club.

I'm drawing a blank, enlighten me with an example. (I'm not challenging you. I honestly can't recall).

Using Lance Briggs' situation, Rosenhaus has both threatened to hold Briggs out for the first ten weeks of the season, and attempted to broker a trade to the Redskins in order to avoid the franchise tag.

Briggs is an adult and makes his own decisions(including choosing Rosenhaus as an agent). If Briggs chooses to sit out the first ten weeks it may have been advised by Rosenhaus but it was decided by Briggs.

But who do you think leaks the "inside info" of "rumored deals" to help prop up his player?

 

[Snotbubbles]

And that was in the language of his franchise tag contract?

I don't know. PM me a copy of the contract and I'll review it and let you know.

 

[Despyzer]

And that was in the language of his franchise tag contract?

I don't know. PM me a copy of the contract and I'll review it and let you know.

Hey, you were the one that referenced it. If you have no clue, why did you bring it up?

 

[Despyzer]

Agents' jobs go beyond negotiating contracts, so I'm sure that they get their percentage if the franchise tag is used. Even in the franchise tag situation, Rosenhaus himself has demonstrated that there's still room for negotiating with the club.

I'm drawing a blank, enlighten me with an example. (I'm not challenging you. I honestly can't recall).

Using Lance Briggs' situation, Rosenhaus has both threatened to hold Briggs out for the first ten weeks of the season, and attempted to broker a trade to the Redskins in order to avoid the franchise tag.

But you don't have a pre-existing example?

 

[Snotbubbles]

I can't be certain whether the added the language into the existing franchise contract language or just had an implied agreement. But they did have an agreement that he wouldn't be re-tagged, I would assume that Alexander would have wanted it in writing.

 

[Chadstroma]

Yet another question with agents.... when and how much do they get paid? My understanding it is a % but % of what? Actual paid out money or contract money? For instance, if a guy gets a contract for $10 million over a 2 year deal but get's cut after year 1 did the agent get paid on the $10 million or just the year 1 money? Does the agent get paid after the player collects the check?

 

[redman]

Agents' jobs go beyond negotiating contracts, so I'm sure that they get their percentage if the franchise tag is used. Even in the franchise tag situation, Rosenhaus himself has demonstrated that there's still room for negotiating with the club.

I'm drawing a blank, enlighten me with an example. (I'm not challenging you. I honestly can't recall).

Using Lance Briggs' situation, Rosenhaus has both threatened to hold Briggs out for the first ten weeks of the season, and attempted to broker a trade to the Redskins in order to avoid the franchise tag.

Briggs is an adult and makes his own decisions(including choosing Rosenhaus as an agent). If Briggs chooses to sit out the first ten weeks it may have been advised by Rosenhaus but it was decided by Briggs.

All decisions are ultimately the players', so I think you're drawing a distinction without a difference.

 

[redman]

Agents' jobs go beyond negotiating contracts, so I'm sure that they get their percentage if the franchise tag is used. Even in the franchise tag situation, Rosenhaus himself has demonstrated that there's still room for negotiating with the club.

I'm drawing a blank, enlighten me with an example. (I'm not challenging you. I honestly can't recall).

Using Lance Briggs' situation, Rosenhaus has both threatened to hold Briggs out for the first ten weeks of the season, and attempted to broker a trade to the Redskins in order to avoid the franchise tag.

But you don't have a pre-existing example?

You're going to need to elaborate. I have no idea what you're after.

 

[Despyzer]

Yet another question with agents.... when and how much do they get paid? My understanding it is a % but % of what? Actual paid out money or contract money? For instance, if a guy gets a contract for $10 million over a 2 year deal but get's cut after year 1 did the agent get paid on the $10 million or just the year 1 money? Does the agent get paid after the player collects the check?

The agent cut comes directly from the player. I suppose those distinctions differ depending on the agent-to-client contract, but I would guess that in most cases the agent doesn't get paid until the player does. So, if the player gets a big signing bonus the agent gets a percentage of that and then gets a chunk of every game check as it is paid to the player.

 

[*****]

Yet another question with agents.... when and how much do they get paid? My understanding it is a % but % of what? Actual paid out money or contract money? For instance, if a guy gets a contract for $10 million over a 2 year deal but get's cut after year 1 did the agent get paid on the $10 million or just the year 1 money? Does the agent get paid after the player collects the check?

I have a friend who plays pro baseball. His agent gets about 5% of money actually paid. I assume agents in other sports are on par with this.

 

[Despyzer]

You're going to need to elaborate. I have no idea what you're after.

You said that Rosenhaus has already proven that franchise contracts are negotiable. I was wondering if you were operating on knowledge of a situation prior to the one with Briggs.

 

[redman]

You're going to need to elaborate. I have no idea what you're after.

You said that Rosenhaus has already proven that franchise contracts are negotiable. I was wondering if you were operating on knowledge of a situation prior to the one with Briggs.

No, what I was addressing was your (erroneous, IMHO) assumption that agents have no role to play in situations where the franchise tag is used such that they might not deserve to get paid their %. Just because no transaction actually happens doesn't mean that there wasn't some activity/discussion behind the scenes in that regard.

 

[Despyzer]

No, what I was addressing was your (erroneous, IMHO) assumption that agents have no role to play in situations where the franchise tag is used such that they might not deserve to get paid their %. Just because no transaction actually happens doesn't mean that there wasn't some activity/discussion behind the scenes in that regard.

I have no evidence to back this up, but I would still contend (erroneously or otherwise) that in most cases any activity or discussion that an agent may take part in on behalf of a player who has been hit with the franchise tag results in very little difference in the actual contract.