Stallworth v. Vick (1 Viewer)

[Prussian]

I was very surpirsed by the announcement of Stallworth's season long suspension. Seriously.

Here is a guy who made a mistake (DUI) that admittedly have severe consequences. Human life is not something to be taken lightly, so don't get me wrong, I fully appreciate the loss of life. However, Stallworth stopped, called 911, and reached out to the family. All while remaining accountable and obviously distraught and full of guilt. It should also be noted that he was ONLY charged with the DUI, not vehicular homicde. The police investigation confirmed the individual "jump out" from between parked cars on the side of the street. His own negligence played a roll in his death - again, albeit a severe consequence, any one of us may have hit this guy while driving completely sober.

The problem I have is what the NFL suspension says, DUI = one year ban? Remember, he was only ever charged with DUI and "convicted" through a plea agreement.

Now, compare this to the Vick situation. A man who knowingly and willingly funded and participated in a felony for seven years. No loss of human life, but fully aware of his actions and the repercussions for seven years. Not one night of over partying, seven years. Then add his drug possession charge while suspended by the team during the investigations. Hello? Real remorseful guy here ...

To steal a segment of the Felons thread as a reference, here are a few other felons ...

Leonard Little - vehicular manslaughter/DUI (Did he get a one year?)

Michael Irvin - felony drug possession (Did he get one year?)

Ray Lewis - obstruction of justice in a murder (Originally charged as an accessory to MURDER - Did he get one year?)

Plaxico - felony weapon possession (Is he going to get one year?)

Pacman Jones - technically a felon since he pled guilty to obstruction of an officer case in GA - (Okay, he's a mess and did get a similar ban for MULTIPLE felnies)

I realize Goodell is dropping the hammer on "Behavior detrimental to the League", but Stallworth's ban does not seem consistent to me. Anyone else agree? Or am I taking too much of a "legal" stance here?

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

one takes a human life and does 23 days in jail.

the other does not, and spends 23 months (?) in jail.

i don't judge either, other than saying they're both idiots, but vick has dungy and others vouching for him. stallworth got drunk and killed somebody on south beach.

 

[BassNBrew]

I think you need to factor in total time away from the field. Vick has essentailly been suspended for two years. I suspect Stallworth is getting hammered because he got a pretty light sentence to begin with. The NFL can't have players driving drunk and killing people. The dog fighting thing is a rather unique circumstance.

 

[PatsWillWin]

It should also be noted that he was ONLY charged with the DUI, not vehicular homicde.

The problem I have is what the NFL suspension says, DUI = one year ban? Remember, he was only ever charged with DUI and "convicted" through a plea agreement.

Pretty huge fail here. Stallworth was charged with and plead guilty to DUI Manslaughter.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I think you need to factor in total time away from the field. Vick has essentailly been suspended for two years. I suspect Stallworth is getting hammered because he got a pretty light sentence to begin with. The NFL can't have players driving drunk and killing people. The dog fighting thing is a rather unique circumstance.

thisVick has serviced almost 2 yrs in prison and been suspended by the league for 2 season and most likely will get another 4 to 8 games slapped on. no one likes what Vick did, but hes serviced his time.Stallworth murder a person

 

[Prussian]

one takes a human life and does 23 days in jail.the other does not, and spends 23 months (?) in jail.i don't judge either, other than saying they're both idiots, but vick has dungy and others vouching for him. stallworth got drunk and killed somebody on south beach.

I think I am struggling with the difference of ACTUALLY killing someone due to the DUI. We all know that death is a possibility from such actions, but because that nightmare of a consequence actually happened to him it singles him out versus all the other DUI cases of NFL players?I have to keep emphasizing I fully appreciate the loss of life, but the actual consequence versus the potential consequence shouldn't change the penalty - should it?

 

[Prussian]

It should also be noted that he was ONLY charged with the DUI, not vehicular homicde.

The problem I have is what the NFL suspension says, DUI = one year ban? Remember, he was only ever charged with DUI and "convicted" through a plea agreement.

Pretty huge fail here. Stallworth was charged with and plead guilty to DUI Manslaughter.

This would make a difference, but I have never seen the DUI-Manslaughter charge published.

 

[PatsWillWin]

It should also be noted that he was ONLY charged with the DUI, not vehicular homicde.

The problem I have is what the NFL suspension says, DUI = one year ban? Remember, he was only ever charged with DUI and "convicted" through a plea agreement.

Pretty huge fail here. Stallworth was charged with and plead guilty to DUI Manslaughter.

This would make a difference, but I have never seen the DUI-Manslaughter charge published.

Have you ever looked?http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=s...ed+w&aqi=g2