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It's an interesting strategy. Build a law that motivates employers to cut hours and then try to raise the minimum wage to compensate for the lost wages. Unfortunately for the employees Obama can't deliver on the pay so they are just going to get hosed on the hours.

 
So the government passes a law, and a company, acting entirely legally, finds a way to reduce their costs. Who does the employee get mad at? The company.

 
Tell us how Obama can raise the minimum wage for non-federal employees, please. In detail.
Apparently by Executive Order the way it sounds. Who needs Congress?

 
Tell us how Obama can raise the minimum wage for non-federal employees, please. In detail.
Apparently by Executive Order the way it sounds. Who needs Congress?
Nope. EO's can't be used to set the minimum wage for non-federal employees. That's the point. Obama can't set the minimum wage for the country. Literally can't. Or else he would.

 
Tell us how Obama can raise the minimum wage for non-federal employees, please. In detail.
Apparently by Executive Order the way it sounds. Who needs Congress?
Nope. EO's can't be used to set the minimum wage for non-federal employees. That's the point. Obama can't set the minimum wage for the country. Literally can't. Or else he would.
Maybe I should have specified :sarcasm: in my previous post.

 
Tell us how Obama can raise the minimum wage for non-federal employees, please. In detail.
Apparently by Executive Order the way it sounds. Who needs Congress?
Nope. EO's can't be used to set the minimum wage for non-federal employees. That's the point. Obama can't set the minimum wage for the country. Literally can't. Or else he would.
He could if he wanted to.

 
Tell us how Obama can raise the minimum wage for non-federal employees, please. In detail.
Apparently by Executive Order the way it sounds. Who needs Congress?
Nope. EO's can't be used to set the minimum wage for non-federal employees. That's the point. Obama can't set the minimum wage for the country. Literally can't. Or else he would.
He could if he wanted to.
No, he actually can't. Literally can't. Because that's not how EO's work. If you knew anything about the subject you wouldn't have started this thread, so I'm trying to educate you. Executive Orders can't be used to affect the federal minimum wage.

 
Tell us how Obama can raise the minimum wage for non-federal employees, please. In detail.
Apparently by Executive Order the way it sounds. Who needs Congress?
Nope. EO's can't be used to set the minimum wage for non-federal employees. That's the point. Obama can't set the minimum wage for the country. Literally can't. Or else he would.
He could if he wanted to.
No, he actually can't. Literally can't. Because that's not how EO's work. If you knew anything about the subject you wouldn't have started this thread, so I'm trying to educate you. Executive Orders can't be used to affect the federal minimum wage.
Have you talked to Obama? Because he seems to think he can use EO's for whatever he wants.

 
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Tell us how Obama can raise the minimum wage for non-federal employees, please. In detail.
Apparently by Executive Order the way it sounds. Who needs Congress?
Nope. EO's can't be used to set the minimum wage for non-federal employees. That's the point. Obama can't set the minimum wage for the country. Literally can't. Or else he would.
He could if he wanted to.
No, he actually can't. Literally can't. Because that's not how EO's work. If you knew anything about the subject you wouldn't have started this thread, so I'm trying to educate you. Executive Orders can't be used to affect the federal minimum wage.
Have you talked to Obama? Because he seems to think he can use EO's for whatever he wants.
Obama has issued fewer EOs than 19 of the last 20 presidents. Let that sink in. Aside from George HW Bush, Obama has issued fewer EO's than any president since Grover Cleveland in 1897. With the time left on his term, he's likely to pass up Gerald Ford, so probably it'll be 18 of the last 20 when he leaves office.

 
Tell us how Obama can raise the minimum wage for non-federal employees, please. In detail.
Apparently by Executive Order the way it sounds. Who needs Congress?
Nope. EO's can't be used to set the minimum wage for non-federal employees. That's the point. Obama can't set the minimum wage for the country. Literally can't. Or else he would.
He could if he wanted to.
No, he actually can't. Literally can't. Because that's not how EO's work. If you knew anything about the subject you wouldn't have started this thread, so I'm trying to educate you. Executive Orders can't be used to affect the federal minimum wage.
Have you talked to Obama? Because he seems to think he can use EO's for whatever he wants.
Obama has issued fewer EOs than 19 of the last 20 presidents. Let that sink in. Aside from George HW Bush, Obama has issued fewer EO's than any president since Grover Cleveland in 1897. With the time left on his term, he's likely to pass up Gerald Ford, so probably it'll be 18 of the last 20 when he leaves office.
I saw data on that (Obama vs. the last several presidents) in today's Chicago Tribune. It surprised me.

 
Tell us how Obama can raise the minimum wage for non-federal employees, please. In detail.
Apparently by Executive Order the way it sounds. Who needs Congress?
Nope. EO's can't be used to set the minimum wage for non-federal employees. That's the point. Obama can't set the minimum wage for the country. Literally can't. Or else he would.
He could if he wanted to.
No, he actually can't. Literally can't. Because that's not how EO's work. If you knew anything about the subject you wouldn't have started this thread, so I'm trying to educate you. Executive Orders can't be used to affect the federal minimum wage.
Have you talked to Obama? Because he seems to think he can use EO's for whatever he wants.
Obama has issued fewer EOs than 19 of the last 20 presidents. Let that sink in. Aside from George HW Bush, Obama has issued fewer EO's than any president since Grover Cleveland in 1897. With the time left on his term, he's likely to pass up Gerald Ford, so probably it'll be 18 of the last 20 when he leaves office.
I think in your zeal to defend Obama against all types of negativity, you're missing that we're being sarcastic for most of this.

However, Obama himself said he would use EO's "where ever and when ever he can". And, based upon past history of deception, we can all pretty much assume that "wherever and whenever he can" will based on how he's feeling, not necessarily on any laws. He's already changed Obamacare a number of times so it's not a reach to think he would do the same with EOs.

 
When a company skirts through the intent of any law and employees suffer, who do you blame? The company or the law?

Obamacare is the first time I've seen people blame the law.

I don't mean saying the law needs to be adjusted to close a loophole, I mean saying "this is Obama's fault". Never seen that before.

 
Tell us how Obama can raise the minimum wage for non-federal employees, please. In detail.
Apparently by Executive Order the way it sounds. Who needs Congress?
Nope. EO's can't be used to set the minimum wage for non-federal employees. That's the point. Obama can't set the minimum wage for the country. Literally can't. Or else he would.
He could if he wanted to.
No, he actually can't. Literally can't. Because that's not how EO's work. If you knew anything about the subject you wouldn't have started this thread, so I'm trying to educate you. Executive Orders can't be used to affect the federal minimum wage.
Have you talked to Obama? Because he seems to think he can use EO's for whatever he wants.
Obama has issued fewer EOs than 19 of the last 20 presidents. Let that sink in. Aside from George HW Bush, Obama has issued fewer EO's than any president since Grover Cleveland in 1897. With the time left on his term, he's likely to pass up Gerald Ford, so probably it'll be 18 of the last 20 when he leaves office.
I think in your zeal to defend Obama against all types of negativity, you're missing that we're being sarcastic for most of this.

However, Obama himself said he would use EO's "where ever and when ever he can". And, based upon past history of deception, we can all pretty much assume that "wherever and whenever he can" will based on how he's feeling, not necessarily on any laws. He's already changed Obamacare a number of times so it's not a reach to think he would do the same with EOs.
All types of negativity? I thought we were talking specifically about the use of Executive Orders to raise the minimum wage. Are we talking about other things, too?

I get that you were being sarcastic. If I didn't react in quite the manner you wanted... sorry? I guess? I'm just presenting some facts about how EO's have worked over the past many years for the people that weren't being sarcastic. Executive Orders are not a magic wand and they can't be used based on "how he's feeling, not necessarily on any laws". No president can use EO's that way, Obama or otherwise.

 
Do a lot of people get benefits at their part time jobs? Hopefully it is not a case of "this is the best job I can find ATM (part time work/benefits)"

I would think that a part time job would just be for fun and extra money.

 
Tell us how Obama can raise the minimum wage for non-federal employees, please. In detail.
Apparently by Executive Order the way it sounds. Who needs Congress?
Nope. EO's can't be used to set the minimum wage for non-federal employees. That's the point. Obama can't set the minimum wage for the country. Literally can't. Or else he would.
He could if he wanted to.
No, he actually can't. Literally can't. Because that's not how EO's work. If you knew anything about the subject you wouldn't have started this thread, so I'm trying to educate you. Executive Orders can't be used to affect the federal minimum wage.
Have you talked to Obama? Because he seems to think he can use EO's for whatever he wants.
Obama has issued fewer EOs than 19 of the last 20 presidents. Let that sink in. Aside from George HW Bush, Obama has issued fewer EO's than any president since Grover Cleveland in 1897. With the time left on his term, he's likely to pass up Gerald Ford, so probably it'll be 18 of the last 20 when he leaves office.
I think in your zeal to defend Obama against all types of negativity, you're missing that we're being sarcastic for most of this.

However, Obama himself said he would use EO's "where ever and when ever he can". And, based upon past history of deception, we can all pretty much assume that "wherever and whenever he can" will based on how he's feeling, not necessarily on any laws. He's already changed Obamacare a number of times so it's not a reach to think he would do the same with EOs.
All types of negativity? I thought we were talking specifically about the use of Executive Orders to raise the minimum wage. Are we talking about other things, too?

I get that you were being sarcastic. If I didn't react in quite the manner you wanted... sorry? I guess? I'm just presenting some facts about how EO's have worked over the past many years for the people that weren't being sarcastic. Executive Orders are not a magic wand and they can't be used based on "how he's feeling, not necessarily on any laws". No president can use EO's that way, Obama or otherwise.
Well, we didn't think Obama would illegally change Obamacare and he did anyways. So how they have worked in past years isn't really relevant for this President.

All I'm saying is that it's not a stretch to think that Obama wouldn't try to use it anyway he wanted to under the guise of "getting things done". You are correct that he "technically" can't, but that's not something that would prevent him from doing it anyways knowing that the Senate would never fight him on it.

 
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When a company skirts through the intent of any law and employees suffer, who do you blame? The company or the law?

Obamacare is the first time I've seen people blame the law.

I don't mean saying the law needs to be adjusted to close a loophole, I mean saying "this is Obama's fault". Never seen that before.
The law pretty clearly created a new problem.

 
Tell us how Obama can raise the minimum wage for non-federal employees, please. In detail.
Apparently by Executive Order the way it sounds. Who needs Congress?
Nope. EO's can't be used to set the minimum wage for non-federal employees. That's the point. Obama can't set the minimum wage for the country. Literally can't. Or else he would.
He could if he wanted to.
No, he actually can't. Literally can't. Because that's not how EO's work. If you knew anything about the subject you wouldn't have started this thread, so I'm trying to educate you. Executive Orders can't be used to affect the federal minimum wage.
Have you talked to Obama? Because he seems to think he can use EO's for whatever he wants.
Obama has issued fewer EOs than 19 of the last 20 presidents. Let that sink in. Aside from George HW Bush, Obama has issued fewer EO's than any president since Grover Cleveland in 1897. With the time left on his term, he's likely to pass up Gerald Ford, so probably it'll be 18 of the last 20 when he leaves office.
I saw data on that (Obama vs. the last several presidents) in today's Chicago Tribune. It surprised me.
Most EOs are for small things. Quantity doesn't matter much.

 
No, he actually can't. Literally can't. Because that's not how EO's work. If you knew anything about the subject you wouldn't have started this thread, so I'm trying to educate you. Executive Orders can't be used to affect the federal minimum wage.
Have you talked to Obama? Because he seems to think he can use EO's for whatever he wants.
Obama has issued fewer EOs than 19 of the last 20 presidents. Let that sink in. Aside from George HW Bush, Obama has issued fewer EO's than any president since Grover Cleveland in 1897. With the time left on his term, he's likely to pass up Gerald Ford, so probably it'll be 18 of the last 20 when he leaves office.
I think in your zeal to defend Obama against all types of negativity, you're missing that we're being sarcastic for most of this.

However, Obama himself said he would use EO's "where ever and when ever he can". And, based upon past history of deception, we can all pretty much assume that "wherever and whenever he can" will based on how he's feeling, not necessarily on any laws. He's already changed Obamacare a number of times so it's not a reach to think he would do the same with EOs.
All types of negativity? I thought we were talking specifically about the use of Executive Orders to raise the minimum wage. Are we talking about other things, too?

I get that you were being sarcastic. If I didn't react in quite the manner you wanted... sorry? I guess? I'm just presenting some facts about how EO's have worked over the past many years for the people that weren't being sarcastic. Executive Orders are not a magic wand and they can't be used based on "how he's feeling, not necessarily on any laws". No president can use EO's that way, Obama or otherwise.
Well, we didn't think Obama would illegally change Obamacare and he did anyways. So how they have worked in past years isn't really relevant for this President.

All I'm saying is that it's not a stretch to think that Obama wouldn't try to use it anyway he wanted to under the guise of "getting things done". You are correct that he "technically" can't, but that's not something that would prevent him from doing it anyways knowing that the Senate would never fight him on it.
Do you have a link to show me that Obama broke the law using an EO with regard to Obamacare?

 
So the government passes a law, and a company, acting entirely legally, finds a way to reduce their costs. Who does the employee get mad at? The company.
The company is nothing without its workers. It is time for America to get out this "be thankful just tohave a job mentality" and make employers get in the be thankful you have employees mentality!
 
So the government passes a law, and a company, acting entirely legally, finds a way to reduce their costs. Who does the employee get mad at? The company.
The company is nothing without its workers. It is time for America to get out this "be thankful just tohave a job mentality" and make employers get in the be thankful you have employees mentality!
It goes in cycles. In recessions, companies say you should be thankful you have a job. Once out of recession, employees say #### you I am leaving for a better job.

 
The opposition party is always quite certain that a president has acted illegally. If he really had broken a law, they'd have brought a lawsuit by now.

So, no. That was not sufficient.
I wouldn't expect you to believe anything that paints Obama in a negative light. Of course, they haven't brought a lawsuit by now because the Senate is run by Democrats.

However, I'm pretty sure there would no sufficient evidence for you.

 
Do a lot of people get benefits at their part time jobs? Hopefully it is not a case of "this is the best job I can find ATM (part time work/benefits)"

I would think that a part time job would just be for fun and extra money.
Most minimum wage part time workers are now adults trying to support families.

 
The opposition party is always quite certain that a president has acted illegally. If he really had broken a law, they'd have brought a lawsuit by now.

So, no. That was not sufficient.
I wouldn't expect you to believe anything that paints Obama in a negative light. Of course, they haven't brought a lawsuit by now because the Senate is run by Democrats.

However, I'm pretty sure there would no sufficient evidence for you.
Where are you coming from with this notion that I'm some sort of Obama apologist? Honestly. Because the only thing I've written here is objective fact about the use of Executive Orders and the also objective fact that every opposition party spends a president's entire term(s) loudly complaining that he has broken the law in a number of interesting and creative ways. The Democrats did it to Bush, the Republicans did it to Clinton, the Democrats did it to Bush and Reagan... it's how things are.

But you know how I know for sure that there's no broken laws here? You don't need the Senate to bring a suit. And this is a party that launched an investigation that paralyzed the nation over a blow job in the Oval Office. If there was evidence of an actual broken law, they would have him brought up on charges so fast his head would spin.

 
When a company skirts through the intent of any law and employees suffer, who do you blame? The company or the law?

Obamacare is the first time I've seen people blame the law.

I don't mean saying the law needs to be adjusted to close a loophole, I mean saying "this is Obama's fault". Never seen that before.
The law pretty clearly created a new problem.
Staples created the employee problem. Of the multitude of business decisions they could have made to deal with a new law, they chose to drop employee work hours.

Notice how the Staples person in the article is petitioning Staples and not the US Government?

Also, they are making an assumption it's completely due to Obamacare. Staples said it was for scheduling flexibility. It's probably for several reasons. Who knows other than Staples

 
So the government passes a law, and a company, acting entirely legally, finds a way to reduce their costs. Who does the employee get mad at? The company.
The company is nothing without its workers. It is time for America to get out this "be thankful just tohave a job mentality" and make employers get in the be thankful you have employees mentality!
how do you propose to make that happen?

 
When a company skirts through the intent of any law and employees suffer, who do you blame? The company or the law?

Obamacare is the first time I've seen people blame the law.

I don't mean saying the law needs to be adjusted to close a loophole, I mean saying "this is Obama's fault". Never seen that before.
The law pretty clearly created a new problem.
Staples created the employee problem. Of the multitude of business decisions they could have made to deal with a new law, they chose to drop employee work hours.

Notice how the Staples person in the article is petitioning Staples and not the US Government?

Also, they are making an assumption it's completely due to Obamacare. Staples said it was for scheduling flexibility. It's probably for several reasons. Who knows other than Staples
Staples made a business decision based on a poorly written law . They don't make the rules, they simply play by them. If the government is going to incentivize businesses to move to part-time labor that's what they are going to do.
 
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When a company skirts through the intent of any law and employees suffer, who do you blame? The company or the law?

Obamacare is the first time I've seen people blame the law.

I don't mean saying the law needs to be adjusted to close a loophole, I mean saying "this is Obama's fault". Never seen that before.
The law pretty clearly created a new problem.
Staples created the employee problem. Of the multitude of business decisions they could have made to deal with a new law, they chose to drop employee work hours.

Notice how the Staples person in the article is petitioning Staples and not the US Government?

Also, they are making an assumption it's completely due to Obamacare. Staples said it was for scheduling flexibility. It's probably for several reasons. Who knows other than Staples
unintended consequences are a #####

 
Tell us how Obama can raise the minimum wage for non-federal employees, please. In detail.
Apparently by Executive Order the way it sounds. Who needs Congress?
Nope. EO's can't be used to set the minimum wage for non-federal employees. That's the point. Obama can't set the minimum wage for the country. Literally can't. Or else he would.
He could if he wanted to.
No, he actually can't. Literally can't. Because that's not how EO's work. If you knew anything about the subject you wouldn't have started this thread, so I'm trying to educate you. Executive Orders can't be used to affect the federal minimum wage.
You do not know the difference between literally and figuratively.
 
Tell us how Obama can raise the minimum wage for non-federal employees, please. In detail.
Apparently by Executive Order the way it sounds. Who needs Congress?
Nope. EO's can't be used to set the minimum wage for non-federal employees. That's the point. Obama can't set the minimum wage for the country. Literally can't. Or else he would.
He could if he wanted to.
No, he actually can't. Literally can't. Because that's not how EO's work. If you knew anything about the subject you wouldn't have started this thread, so I'm trying to educate you. Executive Orders can't be used to affect the federal minimum wage.
You do not know the difference between literally and figuratively.
Of course he can. He will give a speech, and wages will rise. Just like he gave a speech, and the planet was healed and the oceans ceased to rise.

 
Tell us how Obama can raise the minimum wage for non-federal employees, please. In detail.
Apparently by Executive Order the way it sounds. Who needs Congress?
Nope. EO's can't be used to set the minimum wage for non-federal employees. That's the point. Obama can't set the minimum wage for the country. Literally can't. Or else he would.
He could if he wanted to.
No, he actually can't. Literally can't. Because that's not how EO's work. If you knew anything about the subject you wouldn't have started this thread, so I'm trying to educate you. Executive Orders can't be used to affect the federal minimum wage.
You do not know the difference between literally and figuratively.
Of course he can. He will give a speech, and wages will rise. Just like he gave a speech, and the planet was healed and the oceans ceased to rise.
And since he cared about the black people the ghettos were no more and there was unity on the planet...

 
Tell us how Obama can raise the minimum wage for non-federal employees, please. In detail.
Apparently by Executive Order the way it sounds. Who needs Congress?
Nope. EO's can't be used to set the minimum wage for non-federal employees. That's the point. Obama can't set the minimum wage for the country. Literally can't. Or else he would.
He could if he wanted to.
No, he actually can't. Literally can't. Because that's not how EO's work. If you knew anything about the subject you wouldn't have started this thread, so I'm trying to educate you. Executive Orders can't be used to affect the federal minimum wage.
You do not know the difference between literally and figuratively.
I challenged you to tell us how Obama can change the federal minimum wage and you haven't done so - because you can't. The only thing you can do is respond with what you think is a clever dig. It's not. Because Obama literally can't affect the federal minimum wage for non-federal employees using Executive Orders. Show me how he can, in detail, or GTFO. Seriously. Spreading lies and misinformation about the process doesn't help anyone.

 
Tell us how Obama can raise the minimum wage for non-federal employees, please. In detail.
Apparently by Executive Order the way it sounds. Who needs Congress?
Nope. EO's can't be used to set the minimum wage for non-federal employees. That's the point. Obama can't set the minimum wage for the country. Literally can't. Or else he would.
He could if he wanted to.
No, he actually can't. Literally can't. Because that's not how EO's work. If you knew anything about the subject you wouldn't have started this thread, so I'm trying to educate you. Executive Orders can't be used to affect the federal minimum wage.
Have you talked to Obama? Because he seems to think he can use EO's for whatever he wants.
Have you listened to him? Because that's not what he thinks; otherwise, he would do so.

The reason he wants to use an EO to raise the min wage for workers under new federal contracts, because that is what he is able to do. He is pushing Congress to make the federal minimum wage higher, because he can't use an EO to do that.

Sheesh. I know that Obama is not (nor is any politician) perfect, but at least know what you are talking about when you slam him.

 
So your "proof" is a bunch of Republicans?

Republicans say the Democratic President did something illegal? It must be true!!!

I personally think Obama may have over-stepped his authority (or is right on the line) in that case, but having members of the opposition party say it's illegal is by no means proof that it is actually illegal.

 
When a company skirts through the intent of any law and employees suffer, who do you blame? The company or the law?

Obamacare is the first time I've seen people blame the law.

I don't mean saying the law needs to be adjusted to close a loophole, I mean saying "this is Obama's fault". Never seen that before.
The law pretty clearly created a new problem.
Staples created the employee problem. Of the multitude of business decisions they could have made to deal with a new law, they chose to drop employee work hours.

Notice how the Staples person in the article is petitioning Staples and not the US Government?

Also, they are making an assumption it's completely due to Obamacare. Staples said it was for scheduling flexibility. It's probably for several reasons. Who knows other than Staples
Staples made a business decision based on a poorly written law . They don't make the rules, they simply play by them. If the government is going to incentivize businesses to move to part-time labor that's what they are going to do.
Yep, and employees can focus a spotlight on what they're trying to do and bring public scorn down upon them. Ultimately costing them more money than they were planning on saving.

 
Hasn't Walmart been doing something similar to this for years? Even before Obama and Obamacare.

I guess Staples prices aren't low enough for people to look the other way. :shrug:

 
The opposition party is always quite certain that a president has acted illegally. If he really had broken a law, they'd have brought a lawsuit by now.

So, no. That was not sufficient.
I wouldn't expect you to believe anything that paints Obama in a negative light. Of course, they haven't brought a lawsuit by now because the Senate is run by Democrats.

However, I'm pretty sure there would no sufficient evidence for you.
:lmao:

 
When a company skirts through the intent of any law and employees suffer, who do you blame? The company or the law?

Obamacare is the first time I've seen people blame the law.

I don't mean saying the law needs to be adjusted to close a loophole, I mean saying "this is Obama's fault". Never seen that before.
The law pretty clearly created a new problem.
Staples created the employee problem. Of the multitude of business decisions they could have made to deal with a new law, they chose to drop employee work hours.

Notice how the Staples person in the article is petitioning Staples and not the US Government?

Also, they are making an assumption it's completely due to Obamacare. Staples said it was for scheduling flexibility. It's probably for several reasons. Who knows other than Staples
Staples made a business decision based on a poorly written law . They don't make the rules, they simply play by them. If the government is going to incentivize businesses to move to part-time labor that's what they are going to do.
Yep, and employees can focus a spotlight on what they're trying to do and bring public scorn down upon them. Ultimately costing them more money than they were planning on saving.
That's quite a leap. Can you quantify this?

 
Tell us how Obama can raise the minimum wage for non-federal employees, please. In detail.
Apparently by Executive Order the way it sounds. Who needs Congress?
Nope. EO's can't be used to set the minimum wage for non-federal employees. That's the point. Obama can't set the minimum wage for the country. Literally can't. Or else he would.
He could if he wanted to.
No, he actually can't. Literally can't. Because that's not how EO's work. If you knew anything about the subject you wouldn't have started this thread, so I'm trying to educate you. Executive Orders can't be used to affect the federal minimum wage.
You do not know the difference between literally and figuratively.
I challenged you to tell us how Obama can change the federal minimum wage and you haven't done so - because you can't. The only thing you can do is respond with what you think is a clever dig. It's not. Because Obama literally can't affect the federal minimum wage for non-federal employees using Executive Orders. Show me how he can, in detail, or GTFO. Seriously. Spreading lies and misinformation about the process doesn't help anyone.
Sure he can. At least until the courts shoot it down. There is nothing stopping him from issuing an EO on minimum wage and instructing the Department of Labor to enforce it.
 
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Tell us how Obama can raise the minimum wage for non-federal employees, please. In detail.
Apparently by Executive Order the way it sounds. Who needs Congress?
Nope. EO's can't be used to set the minimum wage for non-federal employees. That's the point. Obama can't set the minimum wage for the country. Literally can't. Or else he would.
He could if he wanted to.
No, he actually can't. Literally can't. Because that's not how EO's work. If you knew anything about the subject you wouldn't have started this thread, so I'm trying to educate you. Executive Orders can't be used to affect the federal minimum wage.
You do not know the difference between literally and figuratively.
I challenged you to tell us how Obama can change the federal minimum wage and you haven't done so - because you can't. The only thing you can do is respond with what you think is a clever dig. It's not. Because Obama literally can't affect the federal minimum wage for non-federal employees using Executive Orders. Show me how he can, in detail, or GTFO. Seriously. Spreading lies and misinformation about the process doesn't help anyone.
Sure he can. At least until the courts shoot it down. There is nothing stopping him from issuing an EO on minimum wage and instructing the Department of Labor to enforce it.
<sigh> Which is the point. The courts would shoot it down, there's no way they wouldn't. Because EO's aren't meant to be used that way. The president isn't going to sign an EO to give everyone a raise only to have that taken away a week later. Do you think George Bush - or any of the Republicans since 1980 - wouldn't have reduced the minimum wage to zero if doing it by EO would have worked? Clinton would have raised it but didn't. Why? Because EO's don't work that way.

Do you really think Obama hasn't considered this?

 

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