STAR WARS: EP 7 ***SPOILER ZONE*** - Go here if you've seen it (3 Viewers)

[beer 30]

Seems to me kylo ren may know who Rae is as well. Watching the flashback again it does seem ren saves her as a young child

My nephew emailed me yesterday and said this almost verbatim after watching it a second time.

When ren is told a girl is helping bb8 he says "what girl"? The way he says it and then talks with her after the capture make me think he does. Starting to buy into she was a student who was brain wiped and dumped on that planet for safety. It would explain so much as to how she quickly did all that force stuff.

Now that I read that it makes all the sense in the world as to why her and possibly Fin are both quick studies when it comes to the force. Maybe Luke flitted about the universe depositing proteges in order to save them for later when it was safe to be a Jedi again. Basically the same thing that happened to him & Leia.

Before I continue the discussion, is this a safe space free of any criticism of the movie? Id hate to be triggered by people with different views than my own.

Before I answer, triggered to do what?

 

[AAABatteries]

is mind-wiping a thing? has anyone previously had their mind wiped by a Jedi?

We've seen mind control and now reading minds so it's not a huge leap to think that a mind wipe would be possible on a child.

 

[mcintyre1]

Leia was part of the political process and tried to get the New Republic to arm up and fight the First Order, but was voted down by people who wanted peace above all else and didn't view the First Order as a real threat.

This would be like the U.S. de-arming after WW2 and not worrying about those pesky Russians.

Or like Europe after WW1. No one wanted to repeat the extreme destruction of the the first war and were willing to pretend that Hitler wasn't a problem.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I think Kylo knows or suspects that Rey is somebody in particular. I'm still not sure who she is. I vassilate between Luke or Leia's but I think she's a skywalker for sure.

I'm starting to lean Luke's. He just says so much with his look. Pride. Regret. Remorse. Resolve.

I think it is possible that she's Luke's and he didn't tell anybody (though it also seems to me that Han and Leia know more than what is shown on screen about her) and she was born at the Jedi temple.

I think his lady died either in child birth or by Kylo and that's whose gravestone is seemingly on the cliff. Why she's dropped at Jakku? Don't know. That guy at the beginning maybe watched over her for luke. He seemingly was a Jedi groupie and assisted Luke along the way. He possibly was an assistant at the jedi temple and played the Obiwan role for her at Luke's request.

 

[Insein]

is mind-wiping a thing? has anyone previously had their mind wiped by a Jedi?

No. It's only happened 3 times all in the former EU.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Well I googled it and found this article, which explains a lot, apparently mostly from the novel version. That's pretty crappy that all of this background was left out of the movie. It would've taken an extra scrolling paragraph, that's it.

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/star-wars-force-awakens-spoilers-first-order-resistance-and-republic-explained-499823

The background is nice, I just don't think it's necessary. The story is about the efforts of two groups at war and trying to find Luke.

I've started writing this post like five times, keep deleting it. I'm at a loss as to how you can say that it's unnecessary to know this information about the two groups - especially when the movie treats them as three groups.

I've given up trying to explain it. The problem is ours I guess. They basically banked on the hardcore fan seeking out the back story on their own while the casual fan or just regular person would be fine with the watered down plot.

Exactly. Hardcore fans are reading the books and comics, everyone else can enjoy Awakens for what it is, a great Star Wars flick. If you need everything explained to enjoy the movie, read the books and new comics. You will find out what CPO's arm is red!

Again, saying that it is only the "hardcore" fan that needs to know why two sides are fighting is just kinda silly. It wouldn't be acceptable in any other movie.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Side B in Movie: "Side A is lying and actually secretly supporting Side C!"

Viewer: "Why are Side A and Side C this way?"

FBG's: "Go read the book nerd!"

 

[Hang 10]

is mind-wiping a thing? has anyone previously had their mind wiped by a Jedi?

No. It's only happened 3 times all in the former EU.

Exactly it's something that's nevertheless happened in the star wars canon but apparently it's a blank we should have all filled in without being spoon Fed.

 

[AAABatteries]

I'm beginning to wonder if I should have been confused by the movie. I've never read anything about SW, I don't know what "EU" means, my only history with this stuff are the other 6 movies but I wasn't confused at all - or was I and I just didn't know it?

 

[NewlyRetired]

I'm beginning to wonder if I should have been confused by the movie. I've never read anything about SW, I don't know what "EU" means, my only history with this stuff are the other 6 movies but I wasn't confused at all - or was I and I just didn't know it?

EU means Extended Universe, which includes novels, comics, tv shows etc.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

Saw it again for the second time so my wife and oldest son could see it.

I think that Rey is Leia and Han's daughter, twin deal. At the end she hugs Rey and Leia has a ring with two stones on it, linked together, that were the same color. I've seen this before IRL.

I missed about 20 minutes of the movie getting popcorn though. I got in the line with people getting gourmet coffee while literally 25 people in the other line came in went. Then the gal in front of me, about the size of that orange broad, has some teenage girl come up to her to order stuff for her and her friends. It took all of my force to not strangle the #####.

Rooting for a Dark Side resurgence and rid the galaxy of these mass murdering "resistance" ####ers once and for all.

 

[Insein]

I'm beginning to wonder if I should have been confused by the movie. I've never read anything about SW, I don't know what "EU" means, my only history with this stuff are the other 6 movies but I wasn't confused at all - or was I and I just didn't know it?

Don't worry about it. This is a me issue. I've invested too much of my life into this universe.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I think that Rey is Leia and Han's daughter, twin deal. .

If this was true, wouldn't they have tried to cast the characters a little closer in age? I think Driver is almost 10 years older than Ridley, who herself looks younger than she is.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

I think that Rey is Leia and Han's daughter, twin deal. .

If this was true, wouldn't they have tried to cast the characters a little closer in age? I think Driver is almost 10 years older than Ridley, who herself looks younger than she is.

I don't keep up with it like the others here but I've seen rings like that IRL. I think that was a hint but just a guess GB.

 

[need2know]

I've only read the Timothy Zahn books with grand admiral thrawn that were written a long time ago plus a few misc others that were also written like 15 plus years ago. One thing I think would be cool would be to bring those force resistant beings into the movies. Don't remember their name, but they could create a bubble of force resistance around a person or building. Kinda cool. They were like a sloth or something. Those Zahn novels would have been a cool trilogy

 

[St. Louis Bob]

I didn't see a single person go to the bathroom. SO unrealistic.

 

[snogger]

I'm beginning to wonder if I should have been confused by the movie. I've never read anything about SW, I don't know what "EU" means, my only history with this stuff are the other 6 movies but I wasn't confused at all - or was I and I just didn't know it?

my only exposure to the star wars universe has been the previous 6 movies...I left the movie with a big and enjoyed it from start to finish.. the only question I left with was the one everyone was meant to leave with.. " who is Rey "..

But based on a lot of postings here I should have left with either a or a :whoosh: look.

 

[Rogi]

I was thinking Rey would be Luke's daughter. I was critical when watching the first half of the movie but then I caught myself and stopped over thinking the whole thing and just enjoyed the rest of the movie. My kids loved it. My nephews have watched it multiple times already. The movie must have done something right. I used to think Return of the Jedi was the best movie when I was a kid because of the Ewoks. Now I don't really like the Ewoks. I asked my kids what their favorite SW movie is and they said EP7 because it has the most action.

 

[ScottNorwood]

I didn't see a single person go to the bathroom. SO unrealistic.

Imagine aiming your pee using no hands and just the force.

I would be a terrible Jedi.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I think that Rey is Leia and Han's daughter, twin deal. .

If this was true, wouldn't they have tried to cast the characters a little closer in age? I think Driver is almost 10 years older than Ridley, who herself looks younger than she is.

I don't keep up with it like the others here but I've seen rings like that IRL. I think that was a hint but just a guess GB.

What are you referring to when you say "rings"?

 

[Politician Spock]

I didn't see a single person go to the bathroom. SO unrealistic.

Imagine aiming your pee using no hands and just the force.

I would be a terrible Jedi.

I don't need to imagine doing that.

 

[cstu]

Again, saying that it is only the "hardcore" fan that needs to know why two sides are fighting is just kinda silly. It wouldn't be acceptable in any other movie.

The Force, duh.

 

[Cold Dead Hands]

Saw it again for the second time so my wife and oldest son could see it.

I think that Rey is Leia and Han's daughter, twin deal. At the end she hugs Rey and Leia has a ring with two stones on it, linked together, that were the same color. I've seen this before IRL.

I missed about 20 minutes of the movie getting popcorn though. I got in the line with people getting gourmet coffee while literally 25 people in the other line came in went. Then the gal in front of me, about the size of that orange broad, has some teenage girl come up to her to order stuff for her and her friends. It took all of my force to not strangle the #####.

Rooting for a Dark Side resurgence and rid the galaxy of these mass murdering "resistance" ####ers once and for all.

Margaret Weis wrote a series of books that are a very blatant Star Wars ripoff. The Star of the Guardians series begins with the novel The Lost King. The series takes on an interesting viewpoint that neither the light side nor the dark side were the right path because they were too intolerant. The blending of both was needed. Someone that was essentially a practitioner of both the light and the dark was the correct path because they had a balanced viewpoint.

 

[cstu]

Saw it again for the second time so my wife and oldest son could see it.

I think that Rey is Leia and Han's daughter, twin deal. At the end she hugs Rey and Leia has a ring with two stones on it, linked together, that were the same color. I've seen this before IRL.

I missed about 20 minutes of the movie getting popcorn though. I got in the line with people getting gourmet coffee while literally 25 people in the other line came in went. Then the gal in front of me, about the size of that orange broad, has some teenage girl come up to her to order stuff for her and her friends. It took all of my force to not strangle the #####.

Rooting for a Dark Side resurgence and rid the galaxy of these mass murdering "resistance" ####ers once and for all.

Margaret Weis wrote a series of books that are a very blatant Star Wars ripoff. The Star of the Guardians series begins with the novel The Lost King. The series takes on an interesting viewpoint that neither the light side nor the dark side were the right path because they were too intolerant. The blending of both was needed. Someone that was essentially a practitioner of both the light and the dark was the correct path because they had a balanced viewpoint.

What I've been saying.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Well I googled it and found this article, which explains a lot, apparently mostly from the novel version. That's pretty crappy that all of this background was left out of the movie. It would've taken an extra scrolling paragraph, that's it.

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/star-wars-force-awakens-spoilers-first-order-resistance-and-republic-explained-499823

The background is nice, I just don't think it's necessary. The story is about the efforts of two groups at war and trying to find Luke.

I've started writing this post like five times, keep deleting it. I'm at a loss as to how you can say that it's unnecessary to know this information about the two groups - especially when the movie treats them as three groups.

I've given up trying to explain it. The problem is ours I guess. They basically banked on the hardcore fan seeking out the back story on their own while the casual fan or just regular person would be fine with the watered down plot.

Exactly. Hardcore fans are reading the books and comics, everyone else can enjoy Awakens for what it is, a great Star Wars flick. If you need everything explained to enjoy the movie, read the books and new comics. You will find out what CPO's arm is red!

Again, saying that it is only the "hardcore" fan that needs to know why two sides are fighting is just kinda silly. It wouldn't be acceptable in any other movie.

Why were they fighting in New Hope? We were told there was a civil war in the NH crawl but thats it. We had to wait until episodes 1-3 find out.

 

[Cold Dead Hands]

Well I googled it and found this article, which explains a lot, apparently mostly from the novel version. That's pretty crappy that all of this background was left out of the movie. It would've taken an extra scrolling paragraph, that's it.

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/star-wars-force-awakens-spoilers-first-order-resistance-and-republic-explained-499823

The background is nice, I just don't think it's necessary. The story is about the efforts of two groups at war and trying to find Luke.

I've started writing this post like five times, keep deleting it. I'm at a loss as to how you can say that it's unnecessary to know this information about the two groups - especially when the movie treats them as three groups.

I've given up trying to explain it. The problem is ours I guess. They basically banked on the hardcore fan seeking out the back story on their own while the casual fan or just regular person would be fine with the watered down plot.

Exactly. Hardcore fans are reading the books and comics, everyone else can enjoy Awakens for what it is, a great Star Wars flick. If you need everything explained to enjoy the movie, read the books and new comics. You will find out what CPO's arm is red!

Again, saying that it is only the "hardcore" fan that needs to know why two sides are fighting is just kinda silly. It wouldn't be acceptable in any other movie.

Why were they fighting in New Hope? We were told there was a civil war in the NH crawl but thats it. We had to wait until episodes 1-3 find out.

No. We knew right away. The Empire's enforcer was Vader and the Empire itself was the Nazis who committed genocide. It was apparent in the first act.

 

[Politician Spock]

Well I googled it and found this article, which explains a lot, apparently mostly from the novel version. That's pretty crappy that all of this background was left out of the movie. It would've taken an extra scrolling paragraph, that's it.

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/star-wars-force-awakens-spoilers-first-order-resistance-and-republic-explained-499823

The background is nice, I just don't think it's necessary. The story is about the efforts of two groups at war and trying to find Luke.

I've started writing this post like five times, keep deleting it. I'm at a loss as to how you can say that it's unnecessary to know this information about the two groups - especially when the movie treats them as three groups.

I've given up trying to explain it. The problem is ours I guess. They basically banked on the hardcore fan seeking out the back story on their own while the casual fan or just regular person would be fine with the watered down plot.

Exactly. Hardcore fans are reading the books and comics, everyone else can enjoy Awakens for what it is, a great Star Wars flick. If you need everything explained to enjoy the movie, read the books and new comics. You will find out what CPO's arm is red!

Again, saying that it is only the "hardcore" fan that needs to know why two sides are fighting is just kinda silly. It wouldn't be acceptable in any other movie.

Why were they fighting in New Hope? We were told there was a civil war in the NH crawl but thats it. We had to wait until episodes 1-3 find out.

When Tarkin said "The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away forever", I spent months in mental agony not knowing what he was talking about.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Well I googled it and found this article, which explains a lot, apparently mostly from the novel version. That's pretty crappy that all of this background was left out of the movie. It would've taken an extra scrolling paragraph, that's it.

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/star-wars-force-awakens-spoilers-first-order-resistance-and-republic-explained-499823

The background is nice, I just don't think it's necessary. The story is about the efforts of two groups at war and trying to find Luke.

I've started writing this post like five times, keep deleting it. I'm at a loss as to how you can say that it's unnecessary to know this information about the two groups - especially when the movie treats them as three groups.

I've given up trying to explain it. The problem is ours I guess. They basically banked on the hardcore fan seeking out the back story on their own while the casual fan or just regular person would be fine with the watered down plot.

Exactly. Hardcore fans are reading the books and comics, everyone else can enjoy Awakens for what it is, a great Star Wars flick. If you need everything explained to enjoy the movie, read the books and new comics. You will find out what CPO's arm is red!

Again, saying that it is only the "hardcore" fan that needs to know why two sides are fighting is just kinda silly. It wouldn't be acceptable in any other movie.

Why were they fighting in New Hope? We were told there was a civil war in the NH crawl but thats it. We had to wait until episodes 1-3 find out.

No. We knew right away. The Empire's enforcer was Vader and the Empire itself was the Nazis who committed genocide. It was apparent in the first act.

Oh you mean when the Sandtroopers and a wannabe Vader slaughtered innocents on Jakku?

 

[shadyridr]

My six year old started crying when they blew up the planets because he thought Finn died. It was the saddest thing Ive ever seen and never saw him act like that. Meanwhile he was perfectly fine when Han Solo died.

 

[netnalp]

My six year old started crying when they blew up the planets because he thought Finn died. It was the saddest thing Ive ever seen and never saw him act like that. Meanwhile he was perfectly fine when Han Solo died.

Lock his door at night. Seems like he's too comfortable with the son overthrowing the father.

Or he is on board with "Black Lives Matter"

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

My six year old started crying when they blew up the planets because he thought Finn died. It was the saddest thing Ive ever seen and never saw him act like that. Meanwhile he was perfectly fine when Han Solo died.

Says a lot about your parenting skills.

 

[shadyridr]

My six year old started crying when they blew up the planets because he thought Finn died. It was the saddest thing Ive ever seen and never saw him act like that. Meanwhile he was perfectly fine when Han Solo died.

Says a lot about your parenting skills.

im gonna assume this was a joke. He barely got the father/son dynamic.Funniest thing my son said is why is princess leia so old? Lol he just saw the original three a month ago. I explained that they were made thirty years ago but he still doesnt get it.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

And why jakkuu. Why not tatooine again. I mean if u need a desert world. Thats the one right??

 

[ghostguy123]

Wait. There are plot holes in a film where all the ships can go light speed with never ending amounts of fuel/battery power in a universe with tons of planets that support human life with a bunch of different alien species who speak english, or speak some sort of boop da boop or something we cant understand, but somehow all the english speaking people understand in perfectly?

The HELL you say.

If you go see a STAR WARS movie and complain about plot holes then someone should come hit you in the head with a tackhammer because you are a R.......................moron

 

[Rohn Jambo]

My six year old started crying when they blew up the planets because he thought Finn died. It was the saddest thing Ive ever seen and never saw him act like that. Meanwhile he was perfectly fine when Han Solo died.

Says a lot about your parenting skills.

I am so looking forward to seeing Jar Jar Binks get killed.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Well I googled it and found this article, which explains a lot, apparently mostly from the novel version. That's pretty crappy that all of this background was left out of the movie. It would've taken an extra scrolling paragraph, that's it.

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/star-wars-force-awakens-spoilers-first-order-resistance-and-republic-explained-499823

The background is nice, I just don't think it's necessary. The story is about the efforts of two groups at war and trying to find Luke.

I've started writing this post like five times, keep deleting it. I'm at a loss as to how you can say that it's unnecessary to know this information about the two groups - especially when the movie treats them as three groups.

I've given up trying to explain it. The problem is ours I guess. They basically banked on the hardcore fan seeking out the back story on their own while the casual fan or just regular person would be fine with the watered down plot.

Exactly. Hardcore fans are reading the books and comics, everyone else can enjoy Awakens for what it is, a great Star Wars flick. If you need everything explained to enjoy the movie, read the books and new comics. You will find out what CPO's arm is red!

Again, saying that it is only the "hardcore" fan that needs to know why two sides are fighting is just kinda silly. It wouldn't be acceptable in any other movie.

Why were they fighting in New Hope? We were told there was a civil war in the NH crawl but thats it. We had to wait until episodes 1-3 find out.

Empire ran the galaxy. People didn't like it, so there was a Rebellion. This was in ANH.

 

[skol asylum]

Getting ready to watch it a second time. 10 minutes away. Will Han make it this time?

 

[Insein]

I've only read the Timothy Zahn books with grand admiral thrawn that were written a long time ago plus a few misc others that were also written like 15 plus years ago. One thing I think would be cool would be to bring those force resistant beings into the movies. Don't remember their name, but they could create a bubble of force resistance around a person or building. Kinda cool. They were like a sloth or something. Those Zahn novels would have been a cool trilogy

Ysalamiri

Those things and Mara Jade were the two most interesting additions made from that trilogy.

 

[bucksoh]

I wasn't a fan of the tentacle monsters. They could've made better monsters there.

Lucky for us they ate everyone except Finn.

Yeah, hard to believe it wouldn't just immediately devour Finn when that was what it did to any of the other characters, but, you know, plot armor.

Who knew even aliens where racist.

I mean come on now that dude in the other thread could write another long story that no one would read about these crappy aliens.

 

[Insein]

Well I googled it and found this article, which explains a lot, apparently mostly from the novel version. That's pretty crappy that all of this background was left out of the movie. It would've taken an extra scrolling paragraph, that's it.

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/star-wars-force-awakens-spoilers-first-order-resistance-and-republic-explained-499823

The background is nice, I just don't think it's necessary. The story is about the efforts of two groups at war and trying to find Luke.

I've started writing this post like five times, keep deleting it. I'm at a loss as to how you can say that it's unnecessary to know this information about the two groups - especially when the movie treats them as three groups.

I've given up trying to explain it. The problem is ours I guess. They basically banked on the hardcore fan seeking out the back story on their own while the casual fan or just regular person would be fine with the watered down plot.

Exactly. Hardcore fans are reading the books and comics, everyone else can enjoy Awakens for what it is, a great Star Wars flick. If you need everything explained to enjoy the movie, read the books and new comics. You will find out what CPO's arm is red!

Again, saying that it is only the "hardcore" fan that needs to know why two sides are fighting is just kinda silly. It wouldn't be acceptable in any other movie.

Why were they fighting in New Hope? We were told there was a civil war in the NH crawl but thats it. We had to wait until episodes 1-3 find out.

When Tarkin said "The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away forever", I spent months in mental agony not knowing what he was talking about.

You scoff but that whole scene gave enough detail to establish the entire galactic setup. The Imperial commanders worried that the rebllion may gain strength sincr they just kidnapped a Senator. Tarkin strolls in and says the Empire is large and in charge and #### all the little people. We run the show through fear now. Done. No long exposition. No 30 minute Cspan hearings. We got all we needed about the galaxy in a ####### 5 minute scene by a supposedly inferior writer and director.

 

[renesauz]

Still not getting all the "fatal flaw" comments re. the latest death star thing.

It was only vulnerable AFTER absorbing the power of a sun and BEFORE firing. Even then the place was well shielded as to be nearly un-approachable without taking the shields down FROM THE INSIDE. Then to top it all off, the "vulneable spot" easily withstood a huge external barrage. It only became vulnerable AFTER multiple explosive devices were detonated FROM THE INSIDE.....devices which STILL didn't take it down, but required a virtually suicidal flight inside the building to fire more weapons at the supporting structures.

The fatal flaw complaint is absurd....that much absorbed energy MUST be dangerous. FOr it to be anything less would be ridiculous. The fact that it took so many successful low probability but completely separate accomplishments to send it over the edge and into self-destruction isn't a "fatal flaw" at all.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

I'm sure it's been said. It's like A New Hope II. So similar. I expected more.

 

[Zigg]

I'm sure it's been said. It's like A New Hope II. So similar. I expected more.

We don't take kindly to folks who expect more around here.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

I'm sure it's been said. It's like A New Hope II. So similar. I expected more.

Not sure I get this. Where you alive for the last three steaming piles of crap we saw that were called Star Wars films? The bar was set exceptionally low and at worst Awakens is on par with Jedi.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Watched it again last night and I disagree that it's the same as ANH. A lot of similarities but not even close to a reboot.

 

[FUBAR]

Wait. There are plot holes in a film where all the ships can go light speed with never ending amounts of fuel/battery power in a universe with tons of planets that support human life with a bunch of different alien species who speak english, or speak some sort of boop da boop or something we cant understand, but somehow all the english speaking people understand in perfectly?

The HELL you say.

If you go see a STAR WARS movie and complain about plot holes then someone should come hit you in the head with a tackhammer because you are a R.......................moron

Bring back the talking teddy bears who think a golden robot is a god.

 

[dparker713]

Well I googled it and found this article, which explains a lot, apparently mostly from the novel version. That's pretty crappy that all of this background was left out of the movie. It would've taken an extra scrolling paragraph, that's it.

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/star-wars-force-awakens-spoilers-first-order-resistance-and-republic-explained-499823

The background is nice, I just don't think it's necessary. The story is about the efforts of two groups at war and trying to find Luke.

I've started writing this post like five times, keep deleting it. I'm at a loss as to how you can say that it's unnecessary to know this information about the two groups - especially when the movie treats them as three groups.

I've given up trying to explain it. The problem is ours I guess. They basically banked on the hardcore fan seeking out the back story on their own while the casual fan or just regular person would be fine with the watered down plot.

Exactly. Hardcore fans are reading the books and comics, everyone else can enjoy Awakens for what it is, a great Star Wars flick. If you need everything explained to enjoy the movie, read the books and new comics. You will find out what CPO's arm is red!

Again, saying that it is only the "hardcore" fan that needs to know why two sides are fighting is just kinda silly. It wouldn't be acceptable in any other movie.

The Nazi rally scene wasn't enough for you? What about the fact Finn was taken as a baby to be a soldier?

 

[dparker713]

I've only read the Timothy Zahn books with grand admiral thrawn that were written a long time ago plus a few misc others that were also written like 15 plus years ago. One thing I think would be cool would be to bring those force resistant beings into the movies. Don't remember their name, but they could create a bubble of force resistance around a person or building. Kinda cool. They were like a sloth or something. Those Zahn novels would have been a cool trilogy

Ysalamiri

Those things and Mara Jade were the two most interesting additions made from that trilogy.

Always loved the listening device.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Wait. There are plot holes in a film where all the ships can go light speed with never ending amounts of fuel/battery power in a universe with tons of planets that support human life with a bunch of different alien species who speak english, or speak some sort of boop da boop or something we cant understand, but somehow all the english speaking people understand in perfectly?

The HELL you say.

If you go see a STAR WARS movie and complain about plot holes then someone should come hit you in the head with a tackhammer because you are a R.......................moron

If this was true then there would be no difference between any science fiction stories. Any criticism of anything could be met with "you accept talking to robots and ships moving at light speed...SO YOU WILL DAMN WELL SWALLOW ANYTHING!!!"IOW - I think your post is really dumb.

 

[(HULK)]

If you take the groundbreaking element away from A New Hope, this version was better imo