STAR WARS: EP 7 ***SPOILER ZONE*** - Go here if you've seen it (1 Viewer)

[Mr. Pickles]

Saw it again tonight. Enjoyed it a bit more this time.

 

[Bob Magaw]

Easily one of the best theatrical experiences I've ever had. Saw it at a local LFX/Atmos screening. I may go back to see it in 3D - how was it for anybody that saw it in that format?

In terms of direction, story, inspired casting (new leads, including the villain, were outstanding, phenomenal), acting, character development, production design, CGI, blending of old and new elements, resonance with the original story (without overdoing it or being too redundant), Jar Jar Binksless-ness , this checked all the boxes.

Based on near universal stellar reviews, my expectations were extremely high. This exceeded them. I can't think of a single thing I didn't like about it. However long it was (?), absolutely no sensation of time (masterful pacing), a transporting experience.

Much better than Battlefield Earth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0R_FR9pD2k

 

[Insein]

Easily one of the best theatrical experiences I've ever had. Saw it at a local LFX/Atmos screening. I may go back to see it in 3D - how was it for anybody that saw it in that format?

In terms of direction, story, inspired casting (new leads, including the villain, were outstanding, phenomenal), acting, character development, production design, CGI, blending of old and new elements, resonance with the original story (without overdoing it or being too redundant), Jar Jar Binksless-ness , this checked all the boxes.

Based on near universal stellar reviews, my expectations were extremely high. This exceeded them. I can't think of a single thing I didn't like about it. However long it was (?), absolutely no sensation of time, a transporting experience.

Much better than Battlefield Earth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0R_FR9pD2k

That last sentence is odd to add.

 

[[scooter]]

"It was much better than Ishtar!"

 

[Capella]

Took my 4-year-old nephew tonight. He wore his chewbacca jacket, retro shirt, Kylo Ren hat, and Star Wars shoes. He LOVED it. Must have said whoaaaaaaaa in the theatre like 10 times.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Took my 4-year-old nephew tonight. He wore his chewbacca jacket, retro shirt, Kylo Ren hat, and Star Wars shoes. He LOVED it. Must have said whoaaaaaaaa in the theatre like 10 times.

My four year old saw it with us. He had a blast.

He was trying to figure out where Luke was. "Maybe it's Hawaii, or Alaska without the snow!"

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Took my 4-year-old nephew tonight. He wore his chewbacca jacket, retro shirt, Kylo Ren hat, and Star Wars shoes. He LOVED it. Must have said whoaaaaaaaa in the theatre like 10 times.

My four year old saw it with us. He had a blast.

He was trying to figure out where Luke was. "Maybe it's Hawaii, or Alaska without the snow!"

Kids are dumb /tanner

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Took my 4-year-old nephew tonight. He wore his chewbacca jacket, retro shirt, Kylo Ren hat, and Star Wars shoes. He LOVED it. Must have said whoaaaaaaaa in the theatre like 10 times.

My four year old saw it with us. He had a blast.

He was trying to figure out where Luke was. "Maybe it's Hawaii, or Alaska without the snow!"

Kids are dumb /tanner

Exactly

 

[Don't Noonan]

Took my 4-year-old nephew tonight. He wore his chewbacca jacket, retro shirt, Kylo Ren hat, and Star Wars shoes. He LOVED it. Must have said whoaaaaaaaa in the theatre like 10 times.

My four year old saw it with us. He had a blast.

He was trying to figure out where Luke was. "Maybe it's Hawaii, or Alaska without the snow!"

The island is in Ireland. My parents have been there and recognized it.

 

[tommyboy]

4th or 5th time now can't remember. Its still great.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I kinda hope rey is not related to any of them. Same for finn. Everyone doesn't have to be related.

Exactly. It's probably going to happen with Rey, but if Finn is also someone's son, I think I may be out.

I'm mostly inclined to agree but finn being mace's son might help explain how he was able to overcome the lifelong brainwashing. Even if he's not highly force sensitive, the little bit he might have could give him the fortitude to overcome.Of course that would mean another Jedi didn't live by the monk code.

I don't feel like that needs to be explained. The Game of Thrones Chrome Trooper said that Finn had been assigned to reconditioning. So it's obvious that Finn wasn't the first guy to have doubts like this.

I love Star Wars, loved this movie, but if both Finn and Rey end up being someone's kid, I will legitimately be just done with the story. It makes the universe feel too small and is just dumb/lazy writing.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Took my 4-year-old nephew tonight. He wore his chewbacca jacket, retro shirt, Kylo Ren hat, and Star Wars shoes. He LOVED it. Must have said whoaaaaaaaa in the theatre like 10 times.

My four year old saw it with us. He had a blast.

He was trying to figure out where Luke was. "Maybe it's Hawaii, or Alaska without the snow!"

Interesting. My son is 4 and I've been wondering about when it's okay to show him ANH. I figure 99% of it is fine, but I keep picturing Obi-Wan cutting the dude's hand off and the shot of it lying on the floor. Also, Han shooting Greedo (FIRST!) point blank in in the face. Those two parts have stopped me from letting him watch it, but if strangers on the internet think it's okay...

 

[Bob Magaw]

The new female lead seemed like a natural, and has the bearing, self-assurance, charisma and magnetism to make her plausible as a vehicle of the Force. Whatever "it" is that comprises star power, she's got it. Brilliant casting. I never liked Hayden Christiansen, and didn't think even a better story (which the middle trilogy didn't have) could have overcome his wooden acting. He makes Segal look like Olivier.

* (Adult language in the below link)

The rise of the First Order and seduction of Kylo Ren to the dark side fulfilled a prophecy by Yoda

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/58700090.jpg

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Saw it for third time yesterday. Brought the wife. She loved it.

 

[Capella]

Took my 4-year-old nephew tonight. He wore his chewbacca jacket, retro shirt, Kylo Ren hat, and Star Wars shoes. He LOVED it. Must have said whoaaaaaaaa in the theatre like 10 times.

My four year old saw it with us. He had a blast.

He was trying to figure out where Luke was. "Maybe it's Hawaii, or Alaska without the snow!"

Interesting. My son is 4 and I've been wondering about when it's okay to show him ANH. I figure 99% of it is fine, but I keep picturing Obi-Wan cutting the dude's hand off and the shot of it lying on the floor. Also, Han shooting Greedo (FIRST!) point blank in in the face. Those two parts have stopped me from letting him watch it, but if strangers on the internet think it's okay...

During the scary parts of the TFA, we just covered his eyes. He doesn't care/understand.

 

[[icon]]

This was all very predictable. I posted a week before it came out that people would whine about the plot being simple, even though I had no idea what the plot was.

But it's Star Wars. It's about good vs evil, it's about the journey of a couple people from ordinary nobodies to heros.

It's not a complex thing.

I mean seriously we all know that Kylo and Snoke will rise up to the point where they almost win, and then ultimately Rey and Finn will win in the end. I mean this is basic stuff.

Again, people that hate on this movie are serious dorks.

Why strive to make an excellent, interesting movie when you can make a billion with a popular brand and a safe, run of the mill movie. It depresses me that the first thought that goes into these movies is "how do we make money," rather than "how can we make this movie great."

I'm by no means a star wars fanboy, or a serious dork. I just hope to get an enjoyable movie with a decent plot.

I think a Nirvana quote works nicely here:

"I wish I was like you, easily amused."

 

[dparker713]

This was all very predictable. I posted a week before it came out that people would whine about the plot being simple, even though I had no idea what the plot was.

But it's Star Wars. It's about good vs evil, it's about the journey of a couple people from ordinary nobodies to heros.

It's not a complex thing.

I mean seriously we all know that Kylo and Snoke will rise up to the point where they almost win, and then ultimately Rey and Finn will win in the end. I mean this is basic stuff.

Again, people that hate on this movie are serious dorks.

Why strive to make an excellent, interesting movie when you can make a billion with a popular brand and a safe, run of the mill movie. It depresses me that the first thought that goes into these movies is "how do we make money," rather than "how can we make this movie great."

I'm by no means a star wars fanboy, or a serious dork. I just hope to get an enjoyable movie with a decent plot.

I think a Nirvana quote works nicely here:

"I wish I was like you, easily amused."

I fully understand complaints about the plot, but I've no idea what you're expecting here. Star Wars was never going to be a think piece. The original movies are the simplest of morality plays.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

So much negativity and people always trying to be contrarian on this board (welcome to the Internet, I know, but it's tiresome). Nobody is saying this is best drama or screen play worthy, but it's better than lord of the rings, marvel, and all the other sci-fi comic book stuff out there.

 

[AcerFC]

but it's better than lord of the rings,

Lets slow down there a little bruce leeroy

 

[NewlyRetired]

but it's better than lord of the rings,

Lets slow down there a little bruce leeroy

I am one of the bigger fan boys out there for Star Wars but only Empire can even come close the the LOTR trilogy imo.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I thought the lotr films were all pretty bad. I never read the books though.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I thought the lotr films were all pretty bad. I never read the books though.

you do realize Return of the King stands alone in movie history as having the largest sweep of Academy Awards ever? And this is from a block of Academy voters who have a strong bias against genres like SciFi and fantasy.

I think you could say that you did not like the LOTR films, as no one can question your own feelings, but to say that they were poorly made just boggles the mind.

 

[Politician Spock]

I thought the lotr films were all pretty bad. I never read the books though.

you do realize Return of the King stands alone in movie history as having the largest sweep of Academy Awards ever? And this is from a block of Academy voters who have a strong bias against genres like SciFi and fantasy.

I think you could say that you did not like the LOTR films, as no one can question your own feelings, but to say that they were poorly made just boggles the mind.

Where did he say they were poorly made?

 

[NewlyRetired]

One thing I did not appreciate enough until my second viewing was BB8.

Bill Hader and the team deserve a ton of credit for getting his emotions across on screen. He was far from just comic relief

You could sense his fear and confusion when captured by the scavanger

You could feel his anger when he realized Finn had Poe's jacket

You could sense his struggle on whether to trust Finn of which eventually bloomed into a mini bromance.

You could see his ultimate joy when he realizes Poe is alive and bowling balls his way over to his XWing

It is ironic that he could portray all these emotions to me as a viewer and Hayden fell flat on every one of them in 2.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I thought the lotr films were all pretty bad. I never read the books though.

you do realize Return of the King stands alone in movie history as having the largest sweep of Academy Awards ever? And this is from a block of Academy voters who have a strong bias against genres like SciFi and fantasy.

I think you could say that you did not like the LOTR films, as no one can question your own feelings, but to say that they were poorly made just boggles the mind.

Where did he say they were poorly made?

I thought that is what he meant when he said they were pretty bad. When someone tells me a movie is bad, that seems clear to me they thought it was poorly made. Might be just my mistake though.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

One movie has space, light sabers and robots.

Another movie has metal swords,bows and arrows, horses and goblins.

Completely different fantasy realms and how much you appreciate/like the settings is up to your own personal preference.

They shouldn't even be compared with each other. This is arguing for the sake of arguing.

 

[thecatch]

I thought the lotr films were all pretty bad. I never read the books though.

you do realize Return of the King stands alone in movie history as having the largest sweep of Academy Awards ever? And this is from a block of Academy voters who have a strong bias against genres like SciFi and fantasy.

I think you could say that you did not like the LOTR films, as no one can question your own feelings, but to say that they were poorly made just boggles the mind.

Good thing he didn't say that then.

 

[NewlyRetired]

One movie has space, light sabers and robots.

Another movie has metal swords,bows and arrows, horses and goblins.

Completely different fantasy realms and how much you appreciate/like the settings is up to your own personal preference.

They shouldn't even be compared with each other. This is arguing for the sake of arguing.

Ironically I am pretty sure Lucas himself has said that the LOTR story was his biggest influence when making Star Wars.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I thought the lotr films were all pretty bad. I never read the books though.

you do realize Return of the King stands alone in movie history as having the largest sweep of Academy Awards ever? And this is from a block of Academy voters who have a strong bias against genres like SciFi and fantasy.

I think you could say that you did not like the LOTR films, as no one can question your own feelings, but to say that they were poorly made just boggles the mind.

Good thing he didn't say that then.

my mistake then.

When someone says a movie was pretty bad, I equate that to them believing they were poorly made.

When someone says a movie just was not to his taste, then I don't equate that to them believing they were poorly made.

 

[weevil]

I enjoyed it but did not find it to be anything special. Overall I thought the storyline was too similar to the original Star Wars, and the fight scenes were underwhelming.

 

[Capella]

Lotr was boring to me. I can't say if it was bad or not because I slept through half of the first one and never watched any of the others again.

 

[cstu]

I thought the lotr films were all pretty bad. I never read the books though.

 

[thecatch]

Just saw episode 7. Incredibly derivative but I really enjoyed it nonetheless. Rey is a great character and certainly a million times better actor than Hayden or Mark Hamil. Han Solo's demise was forecasted from the very beginning but seeing him bite it still hit me a little harder emotionally than I would have ever expected. In any event, I was happy with the film. :twocents:

 

[thecatch]

Lotr was boring to me. I can't say if it was bad or not because I slept through half of the first one and never watched any of the others again.

I liked both series but whenever the LOTR films are on cable and they start to show Frodo's emo journey, I'm changing the channel immediately.

 

[[scooter]]

One thing I did not appreciate enough until my second viewing was BB8.

Bill Hader and the team deserve a ton of credit for getting his emotions across on screen. He was far from just comic relief

You could sense his fear and confusion when captured by the scavanger

You could feel his anger when he realized Finn had Poe's jacket

You could sense his struggle on whether to trust Finn of which eventually bloomed into a mini bromance.

You could see his ultimate joy when he realizes Poe is alive and bowling balls his way over to his XWing

It is ironic that he could portray all these emotions to me as a viewer and Hayden fell flat on every one of them in 2.

Dude...you are talking about a robot.

 

[NewlyRetired]

One thing I did not appreciate enough until my second viewing was BB8.

Bill Hader and the team deserve a ton of credit for getting his emotions across on screen. He was far from just comic relief

You could sense his fear and confusion when captured by the scavanger

You could feel his anger when he realized Finn had Poe's jacket

You could sense his struggle on whether to trust Finn of which eventually bloomed into a mini bromance.

You could see his ultimate joy when he realizes Poe is alive and bowling balls his way over to his XWing

It is ironic that he could portray all these emotions to me as a viewer and Hayden fell flat on every one of them in 2.

Dude...you are talking about a robot.

dude, I think that was my entire point.

 

[NewlyRetired]

More info/speculation on Snoke being Darth Plagueis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j66qVexOrU0

 

[[scooter]]

One thing I did not appreciate enough until my second viewing was BB8.

Bill Hader and the team deserve a ton of credit for getting his emotions across on screen. He was far from just comic relief

You could sense his fear and confusion when captured by the scavanger

You could feel his anger when he realized Finn had Poe's jacket

You could sense his struggle on whether to trust Finn of which eventually bloomed into a mini bromance.

You could see his ultimate joy when he realizes Poe is alive and bowling balls his way over to his XWing

It is ironic that he could portray all these emotions to me as a viewer and Hayden fell flat on every one of them in 2.

Dude...you are talking about a robot.

dude, I think that was my entire point.

"I thought Artoo's performance was a little dull. He should have projected more."

 

[joey]

One thing I did not appreciate enough until my second viewing was BB8.

Bill Hader and the team deserve a ton of credit for getting his emotions across on screen. He was far from just comic relief

You could sense his fear and confusion when captured by the scavanger

You could feel his anger when he realized Finn had Poe's jacket

You could sense his struggle on whether to trust Finn of which eventually bloomed into a mini bromance.

You could see his ultimate joy when he realizes Poe is alive and bowling balls his way over to his XWing

It is ironic that he could portray all these emotions to me as a viewer and Hayden fell flat on every one of them in 2.

Dude...you are talking about a robot.

dude, I think that was my entire point.

He's talking about a character in a movie that was expertly puppeteered (or animated in CG, for a good chunk of shots).Animators and puppeteers try to get emotion out of inanimate objects. It's kinda what they do for a living.

 

[NewlyRetired]

One thing I did not appreciate enough until my second viewing was BB8.

Bill Hader and the team deserve a ton of credit for getting his emotions across on screen. He was far from just comic relief

You could sense his fear and confusion when captured by the scavanger

You could feel his anger when he realized Finn had Poe's jacket

You could sense his struggle on whether to trust Finn of which eventually bloomed into a mini bromance.

You could see his ultimate joy when he realizes Poe is alive and bowling balls his way over to his XWing

It is ironic that he could portray all these emotions to me as a viewer and Hayden fell flat on every one of them in 2.

Dude...you are talking about a robot.

dude, I think that was my entire point.

He's talking about a character in a movie that was expertly puppeteered (or animated in CG, for a good chunk of shots).Animators and puppeteers try to get emotion out of inanimate objects. It's kinda what they do for a living.

right, as I said that was my point. The team that produced BB8 did a great job.

 

[NewlyRetired]

One thing I did not appreciate enough until my second viewing was BB8.

Bill Hader and the team deserve a ton of credit for getting his emotions across on screen. He was far from just comic relief

You could sense his fear and confusion when captured by the scavanger

You could feel his anger when he realized Finn had Poe's jacket

You could sense his struggle on whether to trust Finn of which eventually bloomed into a mini bromance.

You could see his ultimate joy when he realizes Poe is alive and bowling balls his way over to his XWing

It is ironic that he could portray all these emotions to me as a viewer and Hayden fell flat on every one of them in 2.

Dude...you are talking about a robot.

dude, I think that was my entire point.

"I thought Artoo's performance was a little dull. He should have projected more."

We can't blame Kenny Baker for this one

Baker was originally cast to continue his long time role as R2 but was replaced during production and was eventually credited as a consultant only. I have to assume this was due to his age (81) just being too old to be in a trash can for any length of time.

 

[dparker713]

I thought the lotr films were all pretty bad. I never read the books though.

you do realize Return of the King stands alone in movie history as having the largest sweep of Academy Awards ever? And this is from a block of Academy voters who have a strong bias against genres like SciFi and fantasy.

I think you could say that you did not like the LOTR films, as no one can question your own feelings, but to say that they were poorly made just boggles the mind.

Boggles my mind that a film a full 45 minutes too long won the academy award. I like that trilogy but that award seemed more for the whole series than that one film.

 

[shadyridr]

I enjoyed it but did not find it to be anything special. Overall I thought the storyline was too similar to the original Star Wars, and the fight scenes were underwhelming.

my feelings exactly. I enjoyed it a lot but it was nothing earth shattering. I liked a bunch of the marvel movies and lotr and other sci fi movies equally or better

 

[NewlyRetired]

I thought the lotr films were all pretty bad. I never read the books though.

you do realize Return of the King stands alone in movie history as having the largest sweep of Academy Awards ever? And this is from a block of Academy voters who have a strong bias against genres like SciFi and fantasy.

I think you could say that you did not like the LOTR films, as no one can question your own feelings, but to say that they were poorly made just boggles the mind.

Boggles my mind that a film a full 45 minutes too long won the academy award. I like that trilogy but that award seemed more for the whole series than that one film.

I think that is fair to say since the academy was taking lumps left and right for not giving more awards to the first two movies, it does feel like they bent over backwards to fix those perceived slights in Return of the King.

But the competition was not great that year by any means and Return of the King probably would have won with out the guilt factor anyway IMO.

It was up against Lost in Translation, Master and Commander, Mystic River, and Seabiscut, hardly murders row

None of those movies are in the IMDB Top 250 but Return of the King still holds the #9 spot all time.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I noticed that Micheal Arndt got a full writing credit for 7 but we know he left the project back in 2013.

I wonder how much of the script we saw on screen was Arndt's work?

Arndt said one of his biggest problems was Luke. Every time he came into the movie during his rewrites, he felt that he was too dominant and took away the focus from the other characters.

I wonder if it was JJ and Kasdan who after taking over solved the problem by turning Luke into a MacGuffin.....

 

[CGRdrJoe]

http://youtu.be/xal1wjko2ig

Lord of the rings <<< Star Wars explained

 

[dparker713]

http://youtu.be/xal1wjko2ig

Lord of the rings <<< Star Wars explained

That stuff aside, helms deep is an amazing cinematic display. The best action in any of these films. There's just no magic in those films for me. Probably because I could never finish the books cause if you think the movies are just about walking, just try to read the books.

Oh and if you can get giant birds to fly you out to halfway home, maybe use them to fly there instead.

 

[need2know]

Lotr sucks ?

 

[cstu]

http://youtu.be/xal1wjko2ig

Lord of the rings <<< Star Wars explained

That stuff aside, helms deep is an amazing cinematic display. The best action in any of these films. There's just no magic in those films for me. Probably because I could never finish the books cause if you think the movies are just about walking, just try to read the books.

Oh and if you can get giant birds to fly you out to halfway home, maybe use them to fly there instead.

Stick to Star Wars, it's a much simpler story.

 

[cstu]

3 out of the 4 non-prequel movies end with a Death Star blowing up.

These movies are fun but are nothing more than vehicles to sell toys.