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exactly Starting Tatum on your fanasty team again before he actually shows that he is healthy is a very risky proposition.
Is this seriously another Tatum Bell thread?
TB has turf toe on not one but both of his feet. It will take more than two weeks for Tatum to get better. Shanny will not give TB enough carries to make an impact fantasy wise. Even when TB was playing, Mike Bell was getting the goal line carries. Tatum started out strong yes, but he is holding true to form and getting hurt, and fading down the stretch. Yes, this is the Tatum Bell everyone should be used to.Sincerely, your Tatum Hater 
TBell was the "main guy" in only three games - weeks 3, 4 and 5. He had the turf toe injury v. Cleveland, and MBell started getting a lot more action.In weeks 3 5 and 6 (4 was the bye week), MBell had a total of 5 carries, 1 in one game, none in another, and in the game in which he had 4 carries (v. NE for 12 yards), the carries came from the 38, the 20, the 10 and the 11 - those are not GL carries.Before that, when both werr healthy, MBell received 4 carries from inside the 10, was iuneffective on three of them and scored a TD on one of them.Compare that to how many GL opps TBell had in games 3, 5, and 6 and you will see that the assumption is STRAIGHT UP WRONG.Shannie works his RBs, sometimes he swaps them out for series' or whatever, but he does NOT swap them out "situationally." If TBell is able to start and play, he will get ALL the carries at the GL on HIS drives - if MBell is put in as a breather on a series or two and the team manages to get inside the 10, MBell won't be pulled - he'll be asked to run out the series.
I'm not so sure about that Marc. Even if Tatum is deemed "healthy" I think we're going to see Mike Bell or Nash or someone used more than we were seeing when Tatum was the starter if for no other reason to ensure he doesn't break down further. I can't see Shanahan going back to giving Tatum 20+ carries given how one could argue that's why Tatum got hurt to begin with. And given how the Broncos have been generally pleased with Mike Bell's work at the goal line I think there's a very good chance he retains the goal-line role. As far as this week, I think the best one can hope for with Tatum is that he's a decent RB3. And even as a RB3 he's a huge gamble since there's no way of knowing how healthy he is and the last two times he's tried to play he's looked like absolute crap. It's way too risky in my opinion to start him as one of your top two RBs unless your RB corps is really hurting. But again, we still have no clue if Tatum will even play. Something's obviously not right if he's being upgraded the day before games and then sat each week. And with the game being on Sunday night a lot of owners won't be in a position to wait and see if he's able to play.
Given their recent slump, I think every game is extremely important for the Broncos going forward. Next week's game is especially critical given how it's Cutler's first start.
MB only had 10 carries, but that surely could have been to a lack of confidence by Shanahan. As noted elsewhere, I don't think Shanny trusts ANY of his RBs, and we'll probably have another addition to the stable to banter about next year.
The Denver Post speculated that Tatum Bell will be traded in the off-season. This didn't come from anyone in the organziation according to the reporter. Just his speculation.
That is as may be, but it is pure speculation - it is not how Shannie has handled his RBs in the past - EVER - and it certainly is NOT, as laughinboy_2000 contended, how they were used this year when TB was healthy.
Agreed. Tatum was definitely getting all the carries when he was the starter. Unfortunately (for Tatum owners at least) that situation may change and I expect it to change. It is interesting to note that the Broncos' recent slump coincided with Tatum's injury. Ever since he's been out or limited the team has struggled to win games.
I was very impressed with Tatum's 19-92 game against the Ravens. I thought he ran hard and with a real sense of purpose in that game and that was a key reason why the Broncos won.
I've said it before, but Michael Turner would be a beast in Denver, and would be a coup to grab from their divisional rivals. But the price tag would probably be too high for team brass.
Yeah - it is an interesting note, but it is also a pure coincidence. I am confident that the team would be struggling just as much with a healthy TB.I'd say their losses coincide more with the loss of Lepsis than TBell.
Totally - hard to forget that game.I wil be starting TBell this week unless I hear authoritatively he is out - this week's game is meaningless to my playoff seeding and I am playing against a team that has only Jake Plummer and Mark Brunell for QBs - and rosters have been frozen for 2 weeks.I might as well start him - I actually have two weeks of useless weeks (I have a playoff bye in week 14) - so I have the luxury of not losing anything for the next two weeks while I am waiting for TBell to get worked back in.
I think it has more to do with their defense not playing at the same level it was at earlier in the season. Perhaps it's a case of the defense under-achieving now and over-achieving earlier with the reality somewhere in the middle. But if the Broncos are going to have any success in the playoffs they need their defense to start forcing more TOs and getting off the field. I think that's even more important than the situation at the QB position.You said you're starting Tatum this week, Marc. Is that in a flex league or a start-two RB only league? Just curious. I think it's a big gamble in the latter even if the game is meaningless.
Tatum was great in that B-more game.I traded for him the next week and thought I had a top 5 rb for the rest of the season.It was a truly impressive game.I am in the same position regarding the playoffs.I don't need him until week 15.I hope shanny rests the guy another week. If Tatum is healthy weeks 15 and sixteen he could be awesome against indy and cincy.
Start-2. Over M J-D. There is no gamble for me - in addition to it being a meaningless game, my opponent is guaranteed of putting up a zero at QB (he owns Plummer and Brunell and rosters have been frozen for two weeks).
When did Denver move into the AFC South?
I can't tell if you were referring to my post or not. But Kubiak was Denver's offensive coordinator for 11 years.
I was referring to your post - their OL coach had a ton to do with their run game success. As much as Kubiak.
My bad, arizona and cincy. Regardless he could still put up some great #'s if healthy and shanny plays him.When did Denver move into the AFC South?
your lips to . . . i love M J-D, but the possibility of lining up TBell and LT in weeks 15 and 16 is much more attractive to me - esp. since LT doesn't have pushovers (KC @Sea).My bad, arizona and cincy. Regardless he could still put up some great #'s if healthy and shanny plays him.When did Denver move into the AFC South?
Whether or not he can play is a separate issue from whether or not he can play well. This quote seems to confirm the former, but I'll need proof of the latter.
Mike Anderson didn't notice the loss of the O-line coach in 2005, neither did Droughns in 2004. The real dropoff is being seen this year with the loss of Kubiak. TE receptions, yardage, and scores way down. Overall offensive success way down. Jake Plummer out. Most importantly to this thread, the Denver stud RB is non-existant. This is all happening in 2006, and last time I checked Alex Gibbs has been gone for a few seasons now.EDIT: To get on topic, I'm starting Tatum this week over Cadillac. If he can manage 10+ points I will be a very happy owner.
I would advise against it as well, especially when you consider the rainy forecast. Rudi's YPC might not be pretty, but you know he'll get a lot of carries. Also, Rudi has 4 TDs in his last 3 games vs Baltimore.
Actually, the run game took a nose dive when the team lost Lepsis. They ran VERY well until he was injured.I am not downplaying the loss of Kubiak, but I think y'all are overemphasizing his effect on the run game.
BOZO Feet on the Donkeys no way..plus hate that coach knowing him he will start Nash!
That's also the same time as when Tatum got hurt. Given how he's been their best RB this season I don't think it's a coincidence that their running game has been sporadic since his injury.
I'll be more psyched when I read "and is expected to start"I'll be even MORE psyched if, before week 15, I read "and is expected to start AS USUAL."
For your sake I hope you didn't do it
