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Startup Dynasty Draft Ongoing (1 Viewer)

jeter23

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We are currently holding a startup draft for a new league, Name Yet to be Determined. We thought some may be interested in the results.

This league has a few rules that affected the draft.

• We drafted rookie draft picks, rather than actual rookies

• There are a total of 12 developmental players drafted. If one team takes more than 1 developmental player, that means another team does not get one.

• Starting lineups—QB, RB, WR, WR, TE, 3 Flex (RB, WR or TE), K, D

• 6 points for ALL TDs

http://football4.myfantasyleague.com/2009/...=54736&O=17

1.01 Cavalier King Charles Johnson, Calvin DET WR

1.02 Polk High TD Machine Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR

1.03 Knights of Prosperity Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB

1.04 BIG FISH Peterson, Adrian MIN RB

1.05 Big Boy Jackson, Steven STL RB

1.06 garlicduck Johnson, Andre HOU WR

1.07 JPeso Jennings, Greg GBP WR

1.08 Bucketheads Johnson, Chris TEN RB

1.09 Patoons Colston, Marques NOS WR

1.10 Boats N Hoes Forte, Matt CHI RB

1.11 Money Mayweather Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR

1.12 Literally Possessed Royal, Eddie DEN WR

2.01 Literally Possessed * Rookie Pick, 1.01 FA QB

2.02 Money Mayweather Marshall, Brandon DEN WR

2.03 Boats N Hoes White, Roddy ATL WR

2.04 Patoons Gore, Frank SFO RB

2.05 Bucketheads Boldin, Anquan ARI WR

2.06 Cavalier King Charles Wayne, Reggie IND WR

2.07 garlicduck Smith, Steve CAR WR

2.08 Big Boy Moss, Randy NEP WR

2.09 BIG FISH Edwards, Braylon CLE WR

2.10 Cavalier King Charles Welker, Wes NEP WR

2.11 Knights of Prosperity Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB

2.12 Polk High TD Machine Turner, Michael ATL RB

3.01 Knights of Prosperity Bush, Reggie NOS RB

3.02 Polk High TD Machine Brees, Drew NOS QB

3.03 JPeso Holmes, Santonio PIT WR

3.04 BIG FISH Smith, Kevin DET RB

3.05 Patoons Witten, Jason DAL TE

3.06 garlicduck Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB

3.07 BIG FISH Williams, Roy DAL WR

3.08 Bucketheads Barber, Marion DAL RB

3.09 Big Boy Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB

3.10 Money Mayweather Slaton, Steve HOU RB

3.11 Boats N Hoes Jackson, DeSean PHI WR

3.12 Literally Possessed Rivers, Philip SDC QB

4.01 Literally Possessed McFadden, Darren OAK RB

4.02 Boats N Hoes * Rookie Pick, 1.02 FA QB

4.03 Money Mayweather Cutler, Jay DEN QB

4.04 Big Boy Brady, Tom NEP QB

4.05 Bucketheads Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB

4.06 JPeso Manning, Peyton IND QB

4.07 garlicduck Jacobs, Brandon NYG RB

4.08 Patoons Jackson, Vincent SDC WR

4.09 Cavalier King Charles * Bryant, Dez FA WR

4.10 Knights of Prosperity Houshmandzadeh, T.J. SEA WR

4.11 Polk High TD Machine Brown, Ronnie MIA RB

4.12 JPeso * Rookie Pick, 1.03 FA QB

5.01 Knights of Prosperity Schaub, Matt HOU QB

5.02 Polk High TD Machine * Benn, Arrelious FA WR

5.03 JPeso * Rookie Pick, 1.04 FA QB

5.04 JPeso Mendenhall, Rashard PIT RB

5.05 Patoons Gonzalez, Anthony IND WR

5.06 garlicduck Cotchery, Jerricho NYJ WR

5.07 Cavalier King Charles Jones, Felix DAL RB

5.08 Bucketheads Romo, Tony DAL QB

5.09 Big Boy Evans, Lee BUF WR

5.10 Money Mayweather Bryant, Antonio TBB WR

5.11 Boats N Hoes Portis, Clinton WAS RB

5.12 Literally Possessed Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB

6.01 Literally Possessed Avery, Donnie STL WR

6.02 Boats N Hoes Ryan, Matt ATL QB

6.03 Money Mayweather Thomas, Pierre NOS RB

6.04 Big Boy Addai, Joseph IND RB

6.05 Polk High TD Machine Ocho Cinco, Chad CIN WR

6.06 BIG FISH Palmer, Carson CIN QB

6.07 garlicduck Westbrook, Brian PHI RB

6.08 Cavalier King Charles * Dwyer, Jonathan FA RB

6.09 BIG FISH Owens, Terrell BUF WR

6.10 Knights of Prosperity Moore, Lance NOS WR

6.11 Cavalier King Charles * Rookie Pick, 1.05 FA QB

6.12 Patoons Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB

7.01 Polk High TD Machine * Spiller, CJ FA RB

7.02 Bucketheads Gates, Antonio SDC TE

7.03 JPeso * Rookie Pick, 1.06 FA QB

7.04 BIG FISH Cooley, Chris WAS TE

7.05 Patoons * Rookie Pick, 1.07 FA QB

7.06 garlicduck Ward, Derrick TBB RB

7.07 Knights of Prosperity Daniels, Owen HOU TE

7.08 Bucketheads Berrian, Bernard MIN WR

7.09 Big Boy Clark, Dallas IND TE

7.10 Money Mayweather Rice, Ray BAL RB

7.11 Boats N Hoes Ginn Jr., Ted MIA WR

7.12 Literally Possessed Coles, Laveranues CIN WR

8.01 Literally Possessed Grant, Ryan GBP RB

8.02 Boats N Hoes Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE

8.03 Money Mayweather Winslow, Kellen TBB TE

8.04 Knights of Prosperity Breaston, Steve ARI WR

8.05 Bucketheads Moss, Santana WAS WR

8.06 JPeso * Rookie Pick, 1.08 FA QB

8.07 garlicduck * Best, Jahvid FA RB

8.08 Patoons * Rookie Pick, 1.09 FA QB

8.09 BIG FISH * Rookie Pick, 1.10 FA QB

8.10 Big Boy Morgan, Josh SFO WR

8.11 Polk High TD Machine Keller, Dustin NYJ TE

8.12 Polk High TD Machine * Williams, Damian FA WR

9.01 Literally Possessed Carlson, John SEA TE

9.02 Polk High TD Machine Johnson, Larry KCC RB

9.03 Big Boy Ward, Hines PIT WR

9.04 BIG FISH Maroney, Laurence NEP RB

9.05 Patoons Washington, Leon NYJ RB

9.06 garlicduck Benson, Cedric CIN RB

9.07 Patoons * Rookie Pick, 1.11 FA QB

9.08 Bucketheads McNabb, Donovan PHI QB

9.09 Big Boy Cassel, Matt KCC QB

9.10 Money Mayweather Rice, Sidney MIN WR

9.11 Boats N Hoes Jones, Thomas NYJ RB

9.12 Literally Possessed White, LenDale TEN RB

10.01 JPeso * Evans, Darren FA RB

10.02 Boats N Hoes * Rookie Pick, 1.12 FA QB

10.03 Money Mayweather * LaFell, Brandon FA WR

10.04 Knights of Prosperity * Johnson, Stafon FA RB

10.05 Bucketheads Burress, Plaxico NYG WR

10.06 Cavalier King Charles Miller, Zach OAK TE

10.07 garlicduck * Murray, Demarco FA RB

10.08 Patoons * Gilyard, Marshwan FA WR

10.09 BIG FISH Bess, Davone MIA WR

10.10 Knights of Prosperity * Washington, Derrick FA RB

10.11 Cavalier King Charles Warner, Kurt ARI QB

10.12 Cavalier King Charles Walter, Kevin HOU WR

11.01 Cavalier King Charles Sproles, Darren SDC RB

11.02 Bucketheads Bradshaw, Ahmad NYG RB

11.03 Knights of Prosperity Scheffler, Tony DEN TE

11.04 BIG FISH Austin, Miles DAL WR

11.05 JPeso * Rookie Pick, 2.01 FA QB

11.06 garlicduck Olsen, Greg CHI TE

11.07 JPeso Hightower, Tim ARI RB

11.08 Polk High TD Machine Flacco, Joe BAL QB

11.09 Big Boy Parker, Willie PIT RB

11.10 Money Mayweather Norwood, Jerious ATL RB

11.11 Boats N Hoes Driver, Donald GBP WR

11.12 Literally Possessed Manning, Eli NYG QB

12.01 Literally Possessed * Rookie Pick, 2.02 FA QB

12.02 Boats N Hoes * Rookie Pick, 2.03 FA QB

12.03 Money Mayweather McGahee, Willis BAL RB

12.04 Big Boy Holt, Torry FA WR

12.05 Bucketheads Choice, Tashard DAL RB

12.06 JPeso Quinn, Brady CLE QB

12.07 garlicduck Bush, Michael OAK RB

12.08 Patoons Charles, Jamaal KCC RB

12.09 BIG FISH Clayton, Mark BAL WR

12.10 Big Boy Hester, Devin CHI WR

12.11 Polk High TD Machine Hixon, Domenik NYG WR

12.12 Cavalier King Charles Mason, Derrick BAL WR

13.01 Cavalier King Charles Chambers, Chris SDC WR

13.02 Polk High TD Machine Lewis, Jamal CLE RB

13.03 Knights of Prosperity Walker, Mike JAC WR

13.04 BIG FISH Russell, JaMarcus OAK QB

13.05 Patoons Nelson, Jordy GBP WR

13.06 garlicduck McClain, Le'Ron BAL RB

13.07 JPeso Jones, James GBP WR

13.08 Bucketheads Jackson, Fred BUF RB

13.09 Knights of Prosperity Smith, Steve NYG WR

13.10 Money Mayweather Steelers, Pittsburgh PIT Def

13.11 Boats N Hoes Hill, Jason SFO WR

13.12 Literally Possessed Jets, New York NYJ Def

14.01 Literally Possessed Burton, Keenan STL WR

14.02 Boats N Hoes Campbell, Jason WAS QB

14.03 Money Mayweather Edwards, Trent BUF QB

14.04 Big Boy * Rookie Pick, 2.04 FA QB

14.05 Bucketheads Thomas, Devin WAS WR

14.06 JPeso Garrard, David JAC QB

14.07 garlicduck Branch, Deion SEA WR

More picks to come. I will also post the teams when I get a chance.

 
I am starting a dynasty league this summer.

1. Can you explain this, where you are choosing your rookie draft pick? Can the same player select 1.01 and 1.02 picks??

We drafted rookie draft picks, rather than actual rookies
2. Also, are you using regular serpentine draft, and did you consider a 3rd Round Reversal? I couldn't tell what was going on around the start of the 3rd round...maybe some picks were traded?? Any thoughts in general on using 3rd Round Rev in a 10 team dynasty league for a) initial draft (18 rounds) b) initial rookie draft c) subsequent year Rookie Free Agent Draft?
2.09 BIG FISH Edwards, Braylon CLE WR

2.10 Cavalier King Charles Welker, Wes NEP WR

2.11 Knights of Prosperity Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB

2.12 Polk High TD Machine Turner, Michael ATL RB

3.01 Knights of Prosperity Bush, Reggie NOS RB

3.02 Polk High TD Machine Brees, Drew NOS QB

3.03 JPeso Holmes, Santonio PIT WR
3. Also, fairly WR heavy...is that due to WR typically longer shelf life? Did not see PPR. We will prob be doing 0.5 PPR, 10 yards/point rush/rec, 6 points for rush/rec TDs, 25 yards/point passing yards (4 points for passing TDs)
 
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3. Also, fairly WR heavy...is that due to WR typically longer shelf life? Did not see PPR. We will prob be doing 0.5 PPR, 10 yards/point rush/rec, 6 points for rush/rec TDs, 25 yards/point passing yards (4 points for passing TDs)
Yeah it was certainly suprising to see Adrian Peterson go 4th overall and Eddie Royal go 12th. I am assuming that with the large number of flex positions it is pretty common to start 4 or 5 WR. Probably some PPR as well?
 
yea, there were some trades - no third round reverse.

It's 1 PPR for all.

Yes, anyone can draft the draft picks. I took 1.01 at the beginning of the second, and could have taken 1.02 if I wanted at the end of the third/beginning of the fourth.

The WR thing.... well, that's the way these seem to be going now. It took a few years, but young, elite WR are seen as very valuable in PPR. Even solid WR 2's. Moreso than RB's in many cases. You'll see when you do your startup.

 
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2.01 for the 1.01 rookie pick and 4.02 for the 1.02 rookie pick?

Alot of players were passed on for that 1.01....combine that with Eddie Royal over and I'm real sure I like the way his draft started. But its so early its hard to tell. I've drafted 2 startups in the last month

1.01 rook pick went 3.03 and 3.06 in each

Our rules are alot like those only not a "flex" friendly.

Royal is seriously overrated so far this offseason

 
2.01 for the 1.01 rookie pick and 4.02 for the 1.02 rookie pick?Alot of players were passed on for that 1.01....combine that with Eddie Royal over and I'm real sure I like the way his draft started. But its so early its hard to tell. I've drafted 2 startups in the last month 1.01 rook pick went 3.03 and 3.06 in eachOur rules are alot like those only not a "flex" friendly. Royal is seriously overrated so far this offseason
I'm cool w/ it (I think he's a safe pick - I do not think I'll be regretting that one three years from now. We'll have to agree to disagree on it - we don't need another "Royal is/isn't" thread :) ). I wanted a Bowe/Royal start, really. But that got nixed. So I'll get a Crabtree/Royal start. I could do worse. Most importantly, though, I'm real happy w/ it, and how this draft unfolded for me.
 
We are currently holding a startup draft for a new league, Name Yet to be Determined. We thought some may be interested in the results.

This league has a few rules that affected the draft.

• We drafted rookie draft picks, rather than actual rookies

• There are a total of 12 developmental players drafted. If one team takes more than 1 developmental player, that means another team does not get one.

• Starting lineups—QB, RB, WR, WR, TE, 3 Flex (RB, WR or TE), K, D

• 6 points for ALL TDs

http://football4.myfantasyleague.com/2009/...=54736&O=17

4.09 Cavalier King Charles * Bryant, Dez FA WR

5.02 Polk High TD Machine * Benn, Arrelious FA WR

6.08 Cavalier King Charles * Dwyer, Jonathan FA RB

7.01 Polk High TD Machine * Spiller, CJ FA RB

8.07 garlicduck * Best, Jahvid FA RB

8.12 Polk High TD Machine * Williams, Damian FA WR

10.01 JPeso * Evans, Darren FA RB

10.03 Money Mayweather * LaFell, Brandon FA WR

10.04 Knights of Prosperity * Johnson, Stafon FA RB

10.07 garlicduck * Murray, Demarco FA RB

10.08 Patoons * Gilyard, Marshwan FA WR

10.10 Knights of Prosperity * Washington, Derrick FA RB
I don't want to comment on the vet picks since I have the Hyper 4 draft in a month with lots of these owners and readers, but I think the dev picks were interesting. I probably like Dez Bryant more than Michael Crabtree, so to get him at 4.09 was pretty nice considering where Crab went. I also like the value of Stafon Johnson at 10.04. Devy picks are such a crapshoot that half of these guys might not even be picked in the first two rounds of the NFL draft. It's really a roll of the dice. Most of these gambles make sense, although there a couple that I don't like. There's also still some nice talent out there that you guys missed. I'm guessing that there can only be 12 developmental picks total, so a few of the hidden gems will have to wait until next year to be rostered.

 
1.05 Big Boy Jackson, Steven STL RB

2.08 Big Boy Moss, Randy NEP WR

3.09 Big Boy Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB

4.04 Big Boy Brady, Tom NEP QB

5.09 Big Boy Evans, Lee BUF WR

6.04 Big Boy Addai, Joseph IND RB

7.09 Big Boy Clark, Dallas IND TE

8.10 Big Boy Morgan, Josh SFO WR

9.03 Big Boy Ward, Hines PIT WR

9.09 Big Boy Cassel, Matt KCC QB

11.09 Big Boy Parker, Willie PIT RB

12.04 Big Boy Holt, Torry FA WR

12.10 Big Boy Hester, Devin CHI WR

14.04 Big Boy * Rookie Pick, 2.04 FA QB

My team....fire away.. :football:

 
My team so far-

Rookie Pick, 2.06

McNabb, Donovan PHI QB 7

Romo, Tony DAL QB 10

Barber, Marion DAL RB 10

Bradshaw, Ahmad NYG RB 4

Choice, Tashard DAL RB 10

Jackson, Fred BUF RB 6

Johnson, Chris TEN RB 6

Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB 6

Berrian, Bernard MIN WR 8

Boldin, Anquan ARI WR 7

Burress, Plaxico NYG WR 4

Moss, Santana WAS WR 10

Thomas, Devin WAS WR 10

Gates, Antonio SDC TE 9

 
I would have dropped the PPR or the 2 WR's or 3 flex down a bit. 6 starters at RB or WR makes QB's and TE's basically after thoughts in a league like that. It's no wonder people went crazy for the WR's.

In the end it's all personal preference though.

 
I would have dropped the PPR or the 2 WR's or 3 flex down a bit. 6 starters at RB or WR makes QB's and TE's basically after thoughts in a league like that. It's no wonder people went crazy for the WR's.In the end it's all personal preference though.
It is 6 points per passing TD as well though.
 
P Manning, Garrard, Quinn

Mendenhall, Hightower, D Evans (V Tech)

Jennings, Holmes, James Jones, N Washington, Sweed, M Bradley

1.3, 1.4, 1.6, 1.8, 2.1, 2.12

2010: 2 1st Rookies, 3 1st Devs

:shrug:

 
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P Manning, Garrard, QuinnMendenhall, Hightower, D Evans (V Tech)Jennings, Holmes, J Jones1.3, 1.4, 1.6, 1.8, 2.12010: 2 1st Rookies, 3 1st Devs :yes:
I may have gone with a younger QB with your surrounding cast, and you need a couple of your rookie picks to pan out, but I like it.Nevermind, I just read how the draft played out:3.02 Polk High TD Machine Brees, Drew NOS QB3.06 garlicduck Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB3.12 Literally Possessed Rivers, Philip SDC QB4.03 Money Mayweather Cutler, Jay DEN QB4.04 Big Boy Brady, Tom NEP QB4.06 JPeso Manning, Peyton IND QBWow. Peyton as the 6th QB taken? SOD
 
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P Manning, Garrard, QuinnMendenhall, Hightower, D Evans (V Tech)Jennings, Holmes, J Jones1.3, 1.4, 1.6, 1.8, 2.12010: 2 1st Rookies, 3 1st Devs :yes:
I may have gone with a younger QB with your surrounding cast, and you need a couple of your rookie picks to pan out, but I like it.
Manning just turned 33. If anyone can play at a high level until 40, it's him. Agree, or no?
 
P Manning, Garrard, QuinnMendenhall, Hightower, D Evans (V Tech)Jennings, Holmes, J Jones1.3, 1.4, 1.6, 1.8, 2.12010: 2 1st Rookies, 3 1st Devs :yes:
Why would you take Garrard when you own Peyton?????
I'm not sure he fits well either, but he was a 14th round pick. You already had Peyton and Quinn, but who else would you have taken?
Garrard was QB11 in this format with a decimated offensive line and relatively no weapons. I fully expect to both draft an impact rookie at WR and bring in a veteran. Not to mention the midget will be let loose on a full-time basis. Garrard gives me fringe QB1 numbers in a bad year, I expect QB6-8 numbers next year. As the 21st QB selected, I'll take it and run.
 
P Manning, Garrard, QuinnMendenhall, Hightower, D Evans (V Tech)Jennings, Holmes, J Jones1.3, 1.4, 1.6, 1.8, 2.12010: 2 1st Rookies, 3 1st Devs :yes:
Why would you take Garrard when you own Peyton?????
I'm not sure he fits well either, but he was a 14th round pick. You already had Peyton and Quinn, but who else would you have taken?
Sorry, little inside joke. I think Garrard was a fantastic pick there. Garrard lasting to the #21 QB taken when he's finished top 10-11 in ppg the last 2 years is criminal, IMO. And that's under less than ideal situations with no WR's and no O-line. O
 
I was hoping for a lot more heat regarding the sheer amount of rookie picks vs. proven players. When asked, "why," I would say that at every juncture where I selected the respective rookie pick, I knew I would not move that pick straight up for the players on the table. I didn't go into this planning on stockpiling picks, even though it may seem that way.

1.3 rolled around, would I move the 1.3 for any of the guys selected after? No. So forth and so on. Call it a forced hand, and I'm still undecided as to whether I will use or deal these picks when the time comes, but I could not pass on what I thought was value every step of the way.

 
My team:

QB Kurt Warner (10.11), Matt Hasselbeck (15.01), Matt Leinart (16.12)

RB Felix Jones (5.07), Darren Sproles (11.01)

WR Larry Fitzgerald (1.02), Reggie Wayne (2.06), Wes Welker (2.10), Kevin Walter (10.12), Derrick Mason (12.12), Chris Chambers (13.01), Justin Gage (14.12)

TE Zack Miller (10.06), Todd Heap (17.01)

Rookie Picks: 1.05 (6.11)

College Players: Dez Bryant (4.09), Jon Dwyer (6.08)

Dev Picks: 2 picks in 2010, traded away 2010 1st Round Rookie Pick

Looks pretty much the same as 90% of the teams I draft (for better or worse). If you couldnt tell, I'll be going 5WR lineups (with that ugly RB set, gonna have to). Team is moreso built for 2010 when Bryant and Dwyer go top 3 in rookie drafts next year (wishful thinking), but it just may be able to squeek into the playoffs in 2009 as well.

 
notables:

Rivers, Eli

McFadden, LT, Grant, Lendale

1.01 (Crabby), Royal, Avery, Coles

Carlson

also have rookie 2.02.

I would have taken more WR's, but LT and Lendale were both great value where I took them. There's so much flexibility - I can start those 4 rb's if I had to.

I like it - we'll see how it works out. Crabby is the big risk here.

This is a fun year to draft - a little different (not just from this one - a few others I've seen). You guys who will be doing later PPR dynasty startups - it's definitely different than previous years ;)

 
P Manning, Garrard, QuinnMendenhall, Hightower, D Evans (V Tech)Jennings, Holmes, J Jones1.3, 1.4, 1.6, 1.8, 2.12010: 2 1st Rookies, 3 1st Devs :popcorn:
Why would you take Garrard when you own Peyton?????
I'm not sure he fits well either, but he was a 14th round pick. You already had Peyton and Quinn, but who else would you have taken?
Sorry, little inside joke. I think Garrard was a fantastic pick there. Garrard lasting to the #21 QB taken when he's finished top 10-11 in ppg the last 2 years is criminal, IMO. And that's under less than ideal situations with no WR's and no O-line. O
Garrard is interesting. He seems to always get drafted from QB18-QB23 in every startup draft (at least so far this year) and finished QB9-QB11 in 2008 depending on the format. I believe its because most will draft him as a backup QB and when drafting backups, most will draft for more upside potential. Another reason for the late value is that you have to pick guys like Matt Ryan, Big Ben, Joe Flacco, Matt Schaub, Eli Manning, Carson Palmer and the like ahead of him due to age and much greater upside even though they all finished below him in 2008. With those 6 moving ahead of him, that already drops him to QB17.
 
P Manning, Garrard, Quinn

Mendenhall, Hightower, D Evans (V Tech)

Jennings, Holmes, J Jones

1.3, 1.4, 1.6, 1.8, 2.1

2010: 2 1st Rookies, 3 1st Devs

:thumbup:
Why would you take Garrard when you own Peyton?????
I'm not sure he fits well either, but he was a 14th round pick. You already had Peyton and Quinn, but who else would you have taken?
Sorry, little inside joke. I think Garrard was a fantastic pick there. Garrard lasting to the #21 QB taken when he's finished top 10-11 in ppg the last 2 years is criminal, IMO. And that's under less than ideal situations with no WR's and no O-line. O
Garrard is interesting. He seems to always get drafted from QB18-QB23 in every startup draft (at least so far this year) and finished QB9-QB11 in 2008 depending on the format. I believe its because most will draft him as a backup QB and when drafting backups, most will draft for more upside potential. Another reason for the late value is that you have to pick guys like Matt Ryan, Big Ben, Joe Flacco, Matt Schaub, Eli Manning, Carson Palmer and the like ahead of him due to age and much greater upside even though they all finished below him in 2008. With those 6 moving ahead of him, that already drops him to QB17.
Above the T Edwards, Campbell, Russell, Quinn, and even Flacco to a certain extent group, I don't understand as much. I'd draft Schaub, Palmer, Ben, Ryan over Garrard. I hate to say this but me leaving Garrard on the board and taking Quinn was a miscue on my part. I didn't know he was still around. I like Quinn over the liked of Edwards, Campbell, Russell, the others I thought were around when I selected Quinn. I agree entirely with the bolded area.
 
Rivers, EliMcFadden, LT, Grant, Lendale1.01 (Crabby), Royal, Avery, ColesCarlson
At the end of the day, you mentioned you got the players you covet. I think this is pretty important. If you truly believe Crabtree is the real deal, sometimes you have to go out on a limb like this. Getting Tomlinson and Grant late will make you competitive from week 1. The core of Royal, Crabtree, Avery, McFadden, Rivers, Eli, and Carlson makes the Tomlinson/Grant/Coles choices perfect fits for this roster at the price you paid for them.
 
Rookie Pick, 2.06 McNabb, Donovan PHI QB 7 Romo, Tony DAL QB 10 Barber, Marion DAL RB 10 Bradshaw, Ahmad NYG RB 4 Choice, Tashard DAL RB 10 Jackson, Fred BUF RB 6 Johnson, Chris TEN RB 6 Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB 6 Berrian, Bernard MIN WR 8 Boldin, Anquan ARI WR 7 Burress, Plaxico NYG WR 4 Moss, Santana WAS WR 10 Thomas, Devin WAS WR 10 Gates, Antonio SDC TE 9
You got quality value at each pick. Romo was the last true top-end QB, and you got him much later than I expected. I'm still deciding whether I should have left CJ3 in your lap as I did, but in hindsight, I am fine with that with the way my squad turned out. This team is really set to win now and later. I'm not a huge S. Moss fan but he could pay off. With the flex options, you could trot out Barber, Lynch, CJ3, and even Bradshaw as a flex some weeks if necessary. I like this team.
 
2.01 for the 1.01 rookie pick and 4.02 for the 1.02 rookie pick?Alot of players were passed on for that 1.01....combine that with Eddie Royal over and I'm real sure I like the way his draft started. But its so early its hard to tell. I've drafted 2 startups in the last month 1.01 rook pick went 3.03 and 3.06 in eachOur rules are alot like those only not a "flex" friendly. Royal is seriously overrated so far this offseason
I'm cool w/ it (I think he's a safe pick - I do not think I'll be regretting that one three years from now. We'll have to agree to disagree on it - we don't need another "Royal is/isn't" thread :) ). I wanted a Bowe/Royal start, really. But that got nixed. So I'll get a Crabtree/Royal start. I could do worse. Most importantly, though, I'm real happy w/ it, and how this draft unfolded for me.
Oh I hear you man...thats the beauty of dynastys to me, the drafts go more towards the owners wants rather than following ADP so close like re-drafts. I really like Bowe also this year he'll be going real high as we get close to the season even in redrafts.
 
My squad:

QB: Brees (3.02), Flacco (11.08)

RB: Turner (2.12), RBrown (4.11), LJohnson (9.02), JLewis (13.02), JJones (16.11)

WR: CJ2 (1.01), Ocho Cinco (6.05), Hixon (12.11), Curtis (14.11)

TE: Keller (8.11), VDavis (15.02)

DST: Ravens (17.02)

Dev. picks

Arrelious Benn - WR - (5.02)

CJ Spiller - RB - (7.01)

Damian Williams - WR - (8.12)

My reasoning is behind the spoiler alert.

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My plan going in was to build a solid young core with my first 3 picks and then try to work in devs somewhere in the middle rounds. Ideally, I wanted to go WR/WR/RB, but as we saw....the WRs flew off the board. At the Turner pick, I didn't love any WRs and I felt like he was incredible value. He's becoming very undervalued right now. Also, at the Brees pick, same thing. Didn't love any WRs there either, so I went with the best QB. With all TDs worth 6 pts, Brees is a monster (26.4 ppg in 08). There were no players taken after that whom I'd trade straight up for Brees in this format.

So, having my core (Brees/Turner/Calvin), I looked to add some proven vets with my next couple picks in preparation of my devy plans. That was all momentarily halted when Dez Bryant went. I got Ronnie Brown, but then when Bryant went I had to select one of the 4 devys I coveted (Benn). With my next pick I traded up to nab Ocho Cinco as I needed a veteran starter and didn't want to go with another devy just yet. Then a few picks later Dwyer went, so I had to get the RB I wanted most...Spiller. I was then able to add my 4th favorite devy in Damian Williams a round later. Having my young core, 3 of my 4 top devys, and some undervalued veterans (Brown, Ocho), I then started filling in my other spots with veterans (LJ, JLewis) and young promising players (Keller, Flacco).

I'm fairly happy with my draft as I feel I can do some competing this year and I can reload with my devys in the next couple years. It's not the typical way I attack a draft, but I felt like changing things up a bit this time. I've done 2 previous drafts with developmental picks and I selected only 1 devy out of those two drafts. I wanted to go a different direction this time.*** SPOILER ALERT! Click this link to display the potential spoiler text in this box. ***");document.close();

Bash away.

 
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1.05 Big Boy Jackson, Steven STL RB 2.08 Big Boy Moss, Randy NEP WR 3.09 Big Boy Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB 4.04 Big Boy Brady, Tom NEP QB 5.09 Big Boy Evans, Lee BUF WR 6.04 Big Boy Addai, Joseph IND RB 7.09 Big Boy Clark, Dallas IND TE 8.10 Big Boy Morgan, Josh SFO WR 9.03 Big Boy Ward, Hines PIT WR 9.09 Big Boy Cassel, Matt KCC QB 11.09 Big Boy Parker, Willie PIT RB 12.04 Big Boy Holt, Torry FA WR 12.10 Big Boy Hester, Devin CHI WR 14.04 Big Boy * Rookie Pick, 2.04 FA QB My team....fire away.. :)
I think you dominated this draft. I can't see those other teams that have posted in this thread competing with you for at least 3 years.But then again, this is fantasy football, the most fickle game out there.
 
My team:

Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB

Charles, Jamaal KCC RB

Gore, Frank SFO RB

Washington, Leon NYJ RB

Colston, Marques NOS WR (P)

Gonzalez, Anthony IND WR

Jackson, Vincent SDC WR

Kelly, Malcolm WAS WR (P)

Nelson, Jordy GBP WR

Robinson, Laurent ATL WR

Celek, Brent PHI TE

Witten, Jason DAL TE

Rookie Pick, 1.07

Rookie Pick, 1.09

Rookie Pick, 1.11

Rookie Pick, 2.05

Rookie Pick, 2.08

Dev Player: Gilyard, Marshwan FA WR

It depends how my rookie picks go in filling out the rest of my squad before I conclude on how I feel about the team. Not entirely satisfied at the current point.

With the way the WRs flew off the board, with my 2nd rounder I felt I had no choice but to go with Gore. I wasn't crazy with the pick because I'm not a huge Gore fan, but it came with much more value than the WRs that were out there.

Looking back on the draft, I do wish that I would have waited on the Witten pick and gone QB there instead. Only thing I'm regretting at this point.

Bucketheads has, by far, the best team.

 
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My team...that I can remember without looking at the site (it's down):

Matt Ryan - Jason Campbell

Forte - Portis - T. Jones - C. Taylor

R. White - D. Jackson - T. Ginn - D. Driver - J. Hill - C. Schilens

T. Gonzalez - Shiancoe

1.2, 1.12, 2.6 rookie picks

Thoughts?

 
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P Manning, Garrard, QuinnMendenhall, Hightower, D Evans (V Tech)Jennings, Holmes, James Jones, N Washington, Sweed1.3, 1.4, 1.6, 1.8, 2.12010: 2 1st Rookies, 3 1st Devs :sadbanana:
I like Jennings, but 1.7 is too high...as for the rest of that team besides Peyton...yuck...
 
I like Jennings, but 1.7 is too high...
It would seem that way on the surface, but you almost don't have a choice. Right now, in a PPR dynasty startup, if you want what you would consider a young, elite WR, you have to do this. Even Bowe and Royal probably won't last until pick 15. You simply can't plan on Jennings being there in round 2. But Lynch will be there. Or MBIII. Or even Steve Smith. Time was when going WR/WR at the turn netted you WR1 and 2 (or 2 and 3 at worst). Not so anymore. Things have changed really fast.

 
P Manning, Garrard, QuinnMendenhall, Hightower, D Evans (V Tech)Jennings, Holmes, James Jones, N Washington, Sweed1.3, 1.4, 1.6, 1.8, 2.12010: 2 1st Rookies, 3 1st Devs :cry:
I like Jennings, but 1.7 is too high...as for the rest of that team besides Peyton...yuck...
Did you happen to look at how the draft unfolded? I know you would have gone with Westbrook in the 2nd, and Tomlinson and the 3rd, but I just can't do that. We attack dynasties from an entirely different angle. Many different ways to skin a cat, Dave. You will rue the day you dealt me Calvin for Forte! :cry: With my first round pick, I want a bookend I know will be around for years. Jennings provides that. At 25, I think it's reasonable to expect anywhere from 6-8 of solid production. He should be a top 6-10 PPR dynasty WR until he is at least 30. I can't say that about many players. Also, once he hits 30, I don't expect a huge drop off production like you see often from running backs. My 2nd choice would have been Chris Johnson, and no doubt he would have probably given me similar upside for these 5 years, but then what? RB landscape is ever changing and Jennings, well, he is here to stay. Much less of an injury risk too. Nonetheless, assessment appreciated.
 
P Manning, Garrard, QuinnMendenhall, Hightower, D Evans (V Tech)Jennings, Holmes, James Jones, N Washington, Sweed1.3, 1.4, 1.6, 1.8, 2.12010: 2 1st Rookies, 3 1st Devs :ninja:
I like Jennings, but 1.7 is too high...as for the rest of that team besides Peyton...yuck...
Did you happen to look at how the draft unfolded? I know you would have gone with Westbrook in the 2nd, and Tomlinson and the 3rd, but I just can't do that. We attack dynasties from an entirely different angle. Many different ways to skin a cat, Dave. You will rue the day you dealt me Calvin for Forte! :bye: With my first round pick, I want a bookend I know will be around for years. Jennings provides that. At 25, I think it's reasonable to expect anywhere from 6-8 of solid production. He should be a top 6-10 PPR dynasty WR until he is at least 30. I can't say that about many players. Also, once he hits 30, I don't expect a huge drop off production like you see often from running backs. My 2nd choice would have been Chris Johnson, and no doubt he would have probably given me similar upside for these 5 years, but then what? RB landscape is ever changing and Jennings, well, he is here to stay. Much less of an injury risk too. Nonetheless, assessment appreciated.
1) I wouldnt touch LT or Westy2) Forte is a stud, Calvin at #1 is a joke...the fact AP went 4th I have to question who the other drafters are...3) I like Jennings alot actuall, but you should have taken the best available WR... :thumbup: 4) CJ3 and a Wayne/Smith type in round two would have been better...but thats JMO...I also have to question any draft in which Bowe, Royal and Crabtree are taken ahead of Roddy White, who is an absolute stud...those 3 picks alone are such HUGE reaches the space shuttle was probably used...none of them are worth a late 1st/early 2nd...you cant tell me a 230 point WR, which is what they are, is worth more than some of those other players, Lynch in the 4th was an absolute steal, same for Turner, and MBIII, and Im sure there are others Im forgeting...To each his own, but WOW is all I can say about alot of this draft...
 
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1.01 Cavalier King Charles Johnson, Calvin DET WR

1.02 Polk High TD Machine Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR

PPR League?

1.03 Knights of Prosperity Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB

MJD over ADP?

1.04 BIG FISH Peterson, Adrian MIN RB

1.05 Big Boy Jackson, Steven STL RB

1.06 garlicduck Johnson, Andre HOU WR

1.07 JPeso Jennings, Greg GBP WR

1.08 Bucketheads Johnson, Chris TEN RB

1.09 Patoons Colston, Marques NOS WR

1.10 Boats N Hoes Forte, Matt CHI RB

1.11 Money Mayweather Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR

1.12 Literally Possessed Royal, Eddie DEN WR

2.01 Literally Possessed * Rookie Pick, 1.01 FA QB

Kind of a reach

2.02 Money Mayweather Marshall, Brandon DEN WR

2.03 Boats N Hoes White, Roddy ATL WR

2.04 Patoons Gore, Frank SFO RB

2.05 Bucketheads Boldin, Anquan ARI WR

2.06 Cavalier King Charles Wayne, Reggie IND WR

2.07 garlicduck Smith, Steve CAR WR

2.08 Big Boy Moss, Randy NEP WR

2.09 BIG FISH Edwards, Braylon CLE WR

2.10 Cavalier King Charles Welker, Wes NEP WR

2.11 Knights of Prosperity Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB

2.12 Polk High TD Machine Turner, Michael ATL RB

3.01 Knights of Prosperity Bush, Reggie NOS RB

3.02 Polk High TD Machine Brees, Drew NOS QB

3.03 JPeso Holmes, Santonio PIT WR

3.04 BIG FISH Smith, Kevin DET RB

3.05 Patoons Witten, Jason DAL TE

3.06 garlicduck Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB

3.07 BIG FISH Williams, Roy DAL WR

3.08 Bucketheads Barber, Marion DAL RB

Just wow.. the Barbarian a mid 3rd

3.09 Big Boy Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB

3.10 Money Mayweather Slaton, Steve HOU RB

3.11 Boats N Hoes Jackson, DeSean PHI WR

3.12 Literally Possessed Rivers, Philip SDC QB

4.01 Literally Possessed McFadden, Darren OAK RB

4.02 Boats N Hoes * Rookie Pick, 1.02 FA QB

4.03 Money Mayweather Cutler, Jay DEN QB

4.04 Big Boy Brady, Tom NEP QB

4.05 Bucketheads Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB

4.06 JPeso Manning, Peyton IND QB

4.07 garlicduck Jacobs, Brandon NYG RB

4.08 Patoons Jackson, Vincent SDC WR

4.09 Cavalier King Charles * Bryant, Dez FA WR

4.10 Knights of Prosperity Houshmandzadeh, T.J. SEA WR

4.11 Polk High TD Machine Brown, Ronnie MIA RB

4.12 JPeso * Rookie Pick, 1.03 FA QB

5.01 Knights of Prosperity Schaub, Matt HOU QB

5.02 Polk High TD Machine * Benn, Arrelious FA WR

5.03 JPeso * Rookie Pick, 1.04 FA QB

5.04 JPeso Mendenhall, Rashard PIT RB

5.05 Patoons Gonzalez, Anthony IND WR

5.06 garlicduck Cotchery, Jerricho NYJ WR

5.07 Cavalier King Charles Jones, Felix DAL RB

5.08 Bucketheads Romo, Tony DAL QB

5.09 Big Boy Evans, Lee BUF WR

5.10 Money Mayweather Bryant, Antonio TBB WR

5.11 Boats N Hoes Portis, Clinton WAS RB

This is just Crazy.. Portis a Lat 5th...

5.12 Literally Possessed Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB

6.01 Literally Possessed Avery, Donnie STL WR

6.02 Boats N Hoes Ryan, Matt ATL QB

6.03 Money Mayweather Thomas, Pierre NOS RB

6.04 Big Boy Addai, Joseph IND RB

6.05 Polk High TD Machine Ocho Cinco, Chad CIN WR

6.06 BIG FISH Palmer, Carson CIN QB

6.07 garlicduck Westbrook, Brian PHI RB

6.08 Cavalier King Charles * Dwyer, Jonathan FA RB

6.09 BIG FISH Owens, Terrell BUF WR

6.10 Knights of Prosperity Moore, Lance NOS WR

6.11 Cavalier King Charles * Rookie Pick, 1.05 FA QB

6.12 Patoons Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB

7.01 Polk High TD Machine * Spiller, CJ FA RB

7.02 Bucketheads Gates, Antonio SDC TE

Eye pooping

7.03 JPeso * Rookie Pick, 1.06 FA QB

7.04 BIG FISH Cooley, Chris WAS TE

7.05 Patoons * Rookie Pick, 1.07 FA QB

7.06 garlicduck Ward, Derrick TBB RB

7.07 Knights of Prosperity Daniels, Owen HOU TE

7.08 Bucketheads Berrian, Bernard MIN WR

7.09 Big Boy Clark, Dallas IND TE

7.10 Money Mayweather Rice, Ray BAL RB

7.11 Boats N Hoes Ginn Jr., Ted MIA WR

7.12 Literally Possessed Coles, Laveranues CIN WR

8.01 Literally Possessed Grant, Ryan GBP RB

8.02 Boats N Hoes Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE

8.03 Money Mayweather Winslow, Kellen TBB TE

8.04 Knights of Prosperity Breaston, Steve ARI WR

8.05 Bucketheads Moss, Santana WAS WR

8.06 JPeso * Rookie Pick, 1.08 FA QB

8.07 garlicduck * Best, Jahvid FA RB

8.08 Patoons * Rookie Pick, 1.09 FA QB

8.09 BIG FISH * Rookie Pick, 1.10 FA QB

8.10 Big Boy Morgan, Josh SFO WR

8.11 Polk High TD Machine Keller, Dustin NYJ TE

8.12 Polk High TD Machine * Williams, Damian FA WR

9.01 Literally Possessed Carlson, John SEA TE

9.02 Polk High TD Machine Johnson, Larry KCC RB

9.03 Big Boy Ward, Hines PIT WR

9.04 BIG FISH Maroney, Laurence NEP RB

9.05 Patoons Washington, Leon NYJ RB

9.06 garlicduck Benson, Cedric CIN RB

9.07 Patoons * Rookie Pick, 1.11 FA QB

9.08 Bucketheads McNabb, Donovan PHI QB

9.09 Big Boy Cassel, Matt KCC QB

9.10 Money Mayweather Rice, Sidney MIN WR

9.11 Boats N Hoes Jones, Thomas NYJ RB

9.12 Literally Possessed White, LenDale TEN RB

10.01 JPeso * Evans, Darren FA RB

10.02 Boats N Hoes * Rookie Pick, 1.12 FA QB

10.03 Money Mayweather * LaFell, Brandon FA WR

10.04 Knights of Prosperity * Johnson, Stafon FA RB

10.05 Bucketheads Burress, Plaxico NYG WR

10.06 Cavalier King Charles Miller, Zach OAK TE

10.07 garlicduck * Murray, Demarco FA RB

10.08 Patoons * Gilyard, Marshwan FA WR

10.09 BIG FISH Bess, Davone MIA WR

10.10 Knights of Prosperity * Washington, Derrick FA RB

10.11 Cavalier King Charles Warner, Kurt ARI QB

10.12 Cavalier King Charles Walter, Kevin HOU WR

11.01 Cavalier King Charles Sproles, Darren SDC RB

11.02 Bucketheads Bradshaw, Ahmad NYG RB

good pick

11.03 Knights of Prosperity Scheffler, Tony DEN TE

11.04 BIG FISH Austin, Miles DAL WR

11.05 JPeso * Rookie Pick, 2.01 FA QB

11.06 garlicduck Olsen, Greg CHI TE

11.07 JPeso Hightower, Tim ARI RB

11.08 Polk High TD Machine Flacco, Joe BAL QB

11.09 Big Boy Parker, Willie PIT RB

11.10 Money Mayweather Norwood, Jerious ATL RB

11.11 Boats N Hoes Driver, Donald GBP WR

11.12 Literally Possessed Manning, Eli NYG QB

12.01 Literally Possessed * Rookie Pick, 2.02 FA QB

12.02 Boats N Hoes * Rookie Pick, 2.03 FA QB

12.03 Money Mayweather McGahee, Willis BAL RB

12.04 Big Boy Holt, Torry FA WR

12.05 Bucketheads Choice, Tashard DAL RB

12.06 JPeso Quinn, Brady CLE QB

12.07 garlicduck Bush, Michael OAK RB

12.08 Patoons Charles, Jamaal KCC RB

12.09 BIG FISH Clayton, Mark BAL WR

12.10 Big Boy Hester, Devin CHI WR

12.11 Polk High TD Machine Hixon, Domenik NYG WR

12.12 Cavalier King Charles Mason, Derrick BAL WR

13.01 Cavalier King Charles Chambers, Chris SDC WR

13.02 Polk High TD Machine Lewis, Jamal CLE RB

13.03 Knights of Prosperity Walker, Mike JAC WR

13.04 BIG FISH Russell, JaMarcus OAK QB

13.05 Patoons Nelson, Jordy GBP WR

13.06 garlicduck McClain, Le'Ron BAL RB

13.07 JPeso Jones, James GBP WR

13.08 Bucketheads Jackson, Fred BUF RB

13.09 Knights of Prosperity Smith, Steve NYG WR

13.10 Money Mayweather Steelers, Pittsburgh PIT Def

13.11 Boats N Hoes Hill, Jason SFO WR

13.12 Literally Possessed Jets, New York NYJ Def

14.01 Literally Possessed Burton, Keenan STL WR

14.02 Boats N Hoes Campbell, Jason WAS QB

14.03 Money Mayweather Edwards, Trent BUF QB

14.04 Big Boy * Rookie Pick, 2.04 FA QB

14.05 Bucketheads Thomas, Devin WAS WR

14.06 JPeso Garrard, David JAC QB

14.07 garlicduck Branch, Deion SEA WR
 
P Manning, Garrard, QuinnMendenhall, Hightower, D Evans (V Tech)Jennings, Holmes, James Jones, N Washington, Sweed1.3, 1.4, 1.6, 1.8, 2.12010: 2 1st Rookies, 3 1st Devs :thumbup:
I like Jennings, but 1.7 is too high...as for the rest of that team besides Peyton...yuck...
Did you happen to look at how the draft unfolded? I know you would have gone with Westbrook in the 2nd, and Tomlinson and the 3rd, but I just can't do that. We attack dynasties from an entirely different angle. Many different ways to skin a cat, Dave. You will rue the day you dealt me Calvin for Forte! :ninja: With my first round pick, I want a bookend I know will be around for years. Jennings provides that. At 25, I think it's reasonable to expect anywhere from 6-8 of solid production. He should be a top 6-10 PPR dynasty WR until he is at least 30. I can't say that about many players. Also, once he hits 30, I don't expect a huge drop off production like you see often from running backs. My 2nd choice would have been Chris Johnson, and no doubt he would have probably given me similar upside for these 5 years, but then what? RB landscape is ever changing and Jennings, well, he is here to stay. Much less of an injury risk too. Nonetheless, assessment appreciated.
You might as well Deal Manning away to, that team won't be ready until 2011 or later. 5 2009 picks / 2 2010 1st / 3 Dev 1sts.
 
P Manning, Garrard, QuinnMendenhall, Hightower, D Evans (V Tech)Jennings, Holmes, James Jones, N Washington, Sweed1.3, 1.4, 1.6, 1.8, 2.12010: 2 1st Rookies, 3 1st Devs :shrug:
Your team is interesting to me, and very different from how I would go about it for sure. I am very interested in knowing the kinds of players from this years rookie draft that you think are going to be long term type guys. As many of those as you have it seems you feel very good about this years rookie class. I have been under the impression that this would not necessarily be that great of a rookie class but I am admittedly not up to speed on them at this point. I am guessing you must be and have quite a few in mind that you would like to snag.
 
Thats interesting way of doing it, having the rookies and college players in the draft. I don't think I would have any Rookie picks until 10th round or so. I would have built up my starting line up prior to picking Rookies & college players.

 
P Manning, Garrard, QuinnMendenhall, Hightower, D Evans (V Tech)Jennings, Holmes, James Jones, N Washington, Sweed1.3, 1.4, 1.6, 1.8, 2.12010: 2 1st Rookies, 3 1st Devs :shrug:
Your team is interesting to me, and very different from how I would go about it for sure. I am very interested in knowing the kinds of players from this years rookie draft that you think are going to be long term type guys. As many of those as you have it seems you feel very good about this years rookie class. I have been under the impression that this would not necessarily be that great of a rookie class but I am admittedly not up to speed on them at this point. I am guessing you must be and have quite a few in mind that you would like to snag.
Its not a bad idea at all taking all those Rookie picks... thier values are going to go way up as they get closer to the draft.When the rookie draft comes around, he could trade those picks for Vet players that were picked ahead of his rookie Picks.Knowing JP, he won't do that and he'll hold most of those picks.
 

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