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Statistically, how is a safety scored? (1 Viewer)

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For reference...Safety: 2 pts Interceptions: 4 pts Forced Fumble: 2 pts Fumble Recovery: 2 pts Sack: 4 pts (1/2 sack = 2 pts) Tackles: 1 pt Assists: .5 pt Pass Defensed: 1 pt
No, this does not effect any championship game result. :moneybag: Our league is just looking at our point system and currently a safety is worth 2 points. However, if I'm not mistaken, on a safety no tackle or sack is awarded to the defensive player who makes the play. If that's accurate our league would be awarding more points for an average sack then we do for a safety....which doesn't make sense.Just looking for confirmation on how a safety is statistically scored and possibly a box score example. TIA.
 
I can't speak for every safety, but in this case Jared Allen was awarded both a solo and sack. In the first half, Allen was 2-0-1, I see only two plays in NFL.com Gamebooks 1st half play by play that Allen was involved in, (both in bold) one was a safety.

Detroit Lions at Minnesota Vikings Sunday, 10/12/2008

Detroit Lions vs Minnesota Vikings at Metrodome

Play By Play 1st Quarter 10/12/2008 Page 1

DET wins toss, elects to defend the North goal, and MIN elects to Receive.

J.Hanson kicks 56 yards from DET 30 to MIN 14. M.Hicks to MIN 21 for 7 yards (A.Lewis).

Minnesota Vikings at 15:00, (1st play from scrimmage 14:56)

1-10-MIN 21 (14:56) G.Frerotte pass incomplete short right to A.Peterson.

2-10-MIN 21 (14:52) G.Frerotte pass incomplete deep right to B.Berrian.

PENALTY on DET-L.Bodden, Defensive Pass Interference, 24 yards, enforced at MIN 21 - No Play. X1

1-10-MIN 45 (14:47) G.Frerotte sacked at MIN 36 for -9 yards (D.White).

2-19-MIN 36 (14:13) A.Peterson left tackle to MIN 42 for 6 yards (D.Bullocks).

3-13-MIN 42 (13:35) (Shotgun) G.Frerotte pass incomplete short left to B.Wade.

4-13-MIN 42 (13:31) C.Kluwe punts 55 yards to DET 3, Center-C.Loeffler, downed by MIN-C.Gordon.

Detroit Lions at 13:20

1-10-DET 3 (13:20) R.Johnson right end to DET 6 for 3 yards (C.Greenway).

2-7-DET 6 (12:39) R.Johnson up the middle to DET 6 for no gain (P.Williams, R.Edwards).

3-7-DET 6 (11:57) (Shotgun) D.Orlovsky pass short right to Kevin Smith to DET 9 for 3 yards (A.Winfield).

4-4-DET 9 (11:22) N.Harris punts 43 yards to MIN 48, Center-D.Muhlbach. C.Gordon to MIN 48 for no gain (A.Lewis).

PENALTY on MIN-R.Ferguson, Unnecessary Roughness, 15 yards, enforced at MIN 48.

Minnesota Vikings at 11:11

1-10-MIN 33 (11:11) A.Peterson right tackle to MIN 33 for no gain (J.DeVries).

2-10-MIN 33 (10:30) G.Frerotte pass deep left to B.Berrian to DET 34 for 33 yards (D.Bullocks). DET-P.Lenon was injured P2

during the play. His return is Probable.

1-10-DET 34 (9:46) G.Frerotte pass short left to A.Allison to DET 29 for 5 yards (B.Kelly).

PENALTY on MIN-A.Herrera, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at DET 34 - No Play.

1-20-DET 44 (9:17) A.Peterson right tackle to DET 44 for no gain (S.Cody).

2-20-DET 44 (8:44) C.Taylor left guard to DET 39 for 5 yards (K.Pearson).

3-15-DET 39 (8:09) (Shotgun) G.Frerotte pass incomplete short left to C.Taylor.

4-15-DET 39 (8:04) C.Kluwe punts 39 yards to end zone, Center-C.Loeffler, Touchback.

Detroit Lions at 7:55

1-10-DET 20 (7:55) D.Orlovsky pass incomplete short right to C.Johnson [C.Gordon].

2-10-DET 20 (7:52) R.Johnson right guard to DET 21 for 1 yard (B.Leber).

3-9-DET 21 (7:10) (Shotgun) D.Orlovsky pass short left to Kevin Smith to DET 29 for 8 yards (C.Griffin).

4-1-DET 29 (6:46) N.Harris punts 49 yards to MIN 22, Center-D.Muhlbach. C.Gordon to MIN 27 for 5 yards (A.Lewis).

Minnesota Vikings at 6:33

1-10-MIN 27 (6:33) G.Frerotte pass short left to B.Wade to MIN 29 for 2 yards (B.Kelly).

2-8-MIN 29 (5:52) A.Peterson up the middle to MIN 41 for 12 yards (D.Bullocks). R3

1-10-MIN 41 (5:15) A.Peterson up the middle to MIN 43 for 2 yards (D.White, E.Sims).

2-8-MIN 43 (4:41) G.Frerotte pass short left to R.Ferguson to DET 48 for 9 yards (B.Kelly, A.Lewis). P4

1-10-DET 48 (3:59) G.Frerotte pass short left to R.Ferguson to DET 41 for 7 yards (B.Kelly, D.Smith).

2-3-DET 41 (3:24) G.Frerotte sacked at DET 47 for -6 yards (sack split by E.Sims and C.Redding). DET-J.DeVries was injured

during the play. His return is Probable.

3-9-DET 47 (2:54) (Shotgun) G.Frerotte pass short left to C.Taylor pushed ob at DET 32 for 15 yards (D.Bullocks). P5

1-10-DET 32 (2:31) G.Frerotte pass short right to B.Wade to DET 20 for 12 yards (R.Nece). P6

1-10-DET 20 (1:53) A.Peterson left tackle pushed ob at DET 16 for 4 yards (B.Kelly).

2-6-DET 16 (1:13) A.Peterson right guard to DET 11 for 5 yards (D.White, P.Lenon).

3-1-DET 11 :-)38) A.Peterson up the middle to DET 7 for 4 yards (D.Bullocks). FUMBLES (D.Bullocks), RECOVERED by

DET-D.Smith at DET 1. D.Smith to DET 1 for no gain (V.Shiancoe).

Detroit Lions at 0:31

1-10-DET 1 :-)31) D.Orlovsky pass incomplete short right to R.Johnson.

2-10-DET 1 :-)27) D.Orlovsky pass incomplete deep left to C.Johnson.

Timeout #1 by DET at 00:21.

3-10-DET 1 :-)21) (Shotgun) D.Orlovsky sacked ob in End Zone for -1 yards, SAFETY (J.Allen).

DET 0 MIN 2, Safety, 14:42 elasped

N.Harris kicks 68 yards from DET 20 to MIN 12. C.Gordon pushed ob at DET 46 for 42 yards (N.Harris).

Minnesota Vikings at 0:18, (1st play from scrimmage 0:11)

1-10-DET 46 :-)11) G.Frerotte sacked at MIN 48 for -6 yards (P.Lenon).

END OF QUARTER Score Time

==== Quarter Summary ==== R P X T 3Down 4Down

First Downs Efficiencies

Poss

Detroit Lions 0 3:44 0 0 0 0 0/3 0/0

Minnesota Vikings 2 11:16 1 4 1 6 1/4 0/0

Detroit Lions vs Minnesota Vikings at Metrodome

Play By Play 2nd Quarter 10/12/2008 Page 1

Minnesota Vikings continued.

2-16-MIN 48 (15:00) C.Taylor up the middle to DET 46 for 6 yards (S.Cody; J.DeVries).

3-10-DET 46 (14:19) (Shotgun) G.Frerotte sacked at MIN 47 for -7 yards (J.DeVries).

4-17-MIN 47 (13:48) C.Kluwe punts 53 yards to end zone, Center-C.Loeffler, Touchback.

Detroit Lions at 13:39

1-10-DET 20 (13:39) R.Johnson left tackle to DET 15 for -5 yards (D.Sharper, B.Leber).

2-15-DET 15 (12:54) D.Orlovsky pass short left to C.Johnson to DET 19 for 4 yards (C.Griffin).

3-11-DET 19 (12:09) (Shotgun) D.Orlovsky pass incomplete deep left to R.Williams.

4-11-DET 19 (12:03) N.Harris punts 52 yards to MIN 29, Center-D.Muhlbach, downed by DET-R.Robinson.

PENALTY on MIN-N.Tahi, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at MIN 29.

Minnesota Vikings at 11:51

1-10-MIN 19 (11:51) A.Peterson right end to MIN 22 for 3 yards (Keith Smith).

2-7-MIN 22 (11:16) A.Peterson up the middle to MIN 23 for 1 yard (D.Smith).

3-6-MIN 23 (10:39) (Shotgun) G.Frerotte pass incomplete deep right to A.Allison.

4-6-MIN 23 (10:33) C.Kluwe punts 54 yards to DET 23, Center-C.Loeffler. M.Furrey to DET 23 for no gain (V.Ciurciu).

PENALTY on DET-J.Dizon, Illegal Block Above the Waist, 10 yards, enforced at DET 23.

Detroit Lions at 10:23

1-10-DET 13 (10:23) Kevin Smith left guard to DET 17 for 4 yards (D.Herron). MIN-D.Herron was injured during the play. His

return is Questionable.

2-6-DET 17 (9:46) D.Orlovsky pass short middle to R.Williams to DET 34 for 17 yards (C.Griffin). P1

1-10-DET 34 (9:06) Kevin Smith right guard to DET 37 for 3 yards (K.Williams).

2-7-DET 37 (8:31) Kevin Smith left tackle to DET 40 for 3 yards (V.Ciurciu).

3-4-DET 40 (7:49) (Shotgun) D.Orlovsky pass incomplete short right [P.Williams].

4-4-DET 40 (7:45) N.Harris punts 48 yards to MIN 12, Center-D.Muhlbach, fair catch by C.Gordon.

Minnesota Vikings at 7:38

1-10-MIN 12 (7:38) A.Peterson right guard to MIN 17 for 5 yards (D.Bullocks; B.Kelly).

2-5-MIN 17 (7:01) G.Frerotte pass incomplete short left to B.Berrian (S.Cody).

Penalty on MIN-B.Berrian, Illegal Shift, declined.

3-5-MIN 17 (6:57) G.Frerotte pass short right to B.Berrian to MIN 25 for 8 yards (L.Bodden). P7

1-10-MIN 25 (6:28) A.Peterson up the middle to MIN 30 for 5 yards (L.Moore, D.White).

2-5-MIN 30 (5:56) G.Frerotte pass short right to B.Berrian to MIN 28 for -2 yards (D.Bullocks).

3-7-MIN 28 (5:13) (Shotgun) G.Frerotte pass incomplete short middle to A.Allison.

4-7-MIN 28 (5:09) C.Kluwe punts 46 yards to DET 26, Center-C.Loeffler. S.McDonald to DET 31 for 5 yards (G.Mills).

Detroit Lions at 4:58

1-10-DET 31 (4:58) D.Orlovsky pass short middle to M.Gaines to DET 38 for 7 yards (B.Leber) [b.Robison].

2-3-DET 38 (4:22) Kevin Smith left tackle to MIN 12 for 50 yards (V.Ciurciu). R2

1-10-MIN 12 (3:33) D.Orlovsky FUMBLES (Aborted) at MIN 13, and recovers at MIN 13. D.Orlovsky to MIN 12 for 1 yard

(J.Allen).

2-10-MIN 12 (2:53) D.Orlovsky sacked at MIN 23 for -11 yards (K.Williams).

3-21-MIN 23 (2:14) (Shotgun) Kevin Smith up the middle to MIN 21 for 2 yards (R.Edwards).

Two-Minute Warning

4-19-MIN 21 (2:00) J.Hanson 40 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-D.Muhlbach, Holder-N.Harris.

DET 3 MIN 2, 6 plays, 48 yards, 3:02 drive, 13:04 elapsed

J.Hanson kicks 70 yards from DET 30 to MIN 0. M.Hicks to MIN 17 for 17 yards (C.Fitzsimmons).

Minnesota Vikings at 1:56, (1st play from scrimmage 1:50)

1-10-MIN 17 (1:50) G.Frerotte pass short right to B.Wade to MIN 28 for 11 yards (R.Robinson). P8

1-10-MIN 28 (1:27) (Shotgun) G.Frerotte pass short middle to V.Shiancoe to MIN 38 for 10 yards (E.Sims). P9

1-10-MIN 38 (1:07) G.Frerotte pass incomplete short middle.

2-10-MIN 38 (1:01) (Shotgun) G.Frerotte pass short middle to C.Taylor to MIN 46 for 8 yards (D.White).

Timeout #1 by MIN at 00:52.

3-2-MIN 46 :-)52) G.Frerotte pass incomplete deep right to A.Allison.

4-2-MIN 46 :-)48) C.Kluwe punts 54 yards to end zone, Center-C.Loeffler, Touchback.

Detroit Lions at 0:41

1-10-DET 20 :-)41) R.Johnson left guard to DET 22 for 2 yards (P.Williams).

END OF QUARTER

 
Exactly what I was looking for Rozelle. :moneybag:

I was under the impression that a safety did not result in a tackle and a sack for the IDP responsible...apparently it is? Or is this a "depends on the stadium/team" type scoring?

 
Exactly what I was looking for Rozelle. :thumbup:

I was under the impression that a safety did not result in a tackle and a sack for the IDP responsible...apparently it is? Or is this a "depends on the stadium/team" type scoring?
I'm not sure on the stadium/team scoring. I think if its clear cut on how the safety occured, IDPs will get credit accordingly. You have to remember there are times a safety is awarded when an OL holds in the enzone, QB intentional grounding or QB steps out of bounds in the endzone, so you can have safeties with no sacks and solos.
 
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A sack is a special tackle, much like a touchdown reception is a special catch.

Here - What is the definition of a sack?
That thread is slightly confusing...thanks? :goodposting: I think part of our league confusion is that running backs can be tackled for a loss or that a safety could be attained via holding penalty, etc. Great input guys, thank you.
Sorry, probably should have clarified the point of the reference.A safety is a scoring play. It can happen in several ways (holding, TFL, run out of end zone, sack, etc.). If the score is triggered by a sack or a TFL, then the IDP should get both (or all 3 if a sack - safety, tackle, sack).

HTH

 

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