Steelers? Will they get on a roll like last year (1 Viewer)

[B-Scott]

Bill Cower teams have always started to click at the Mid part of the season. Once the offensive line is clicking on all cylinders,that's when there offense starts to take off. The 1st couple of weeks , Big Ben did not have the same protection as last season. Now it seems the offensive line is beginning to look a little like last season. They have games this week against Atlanta , Followed by the Raiders.

Do you think they will get on a roll last like season?

 

[Chickenwang]

like last year...depends on the refs

 

[menobrown]

like last year...depends on the refs

The only call in any Steeler playoff game last year which was ruled incorrect by the league office was when Troy P's pick got overturned against the Colts but I guess it's convenient to forget that.The Steelers schedule is very favorable for a run. They should be favored in 7 of their next 8 games with the lone exception coming at Baltimore and if that offense continues to stink it up the Steelers might be favored in that game well. Does not mean they are going to win all these games, but the schedule is place to make it happen.

 

[Blick]

like last year...depends on the refs

 

[CrossEyed]

like last year...depends on the refs

 

[Lutherman2112]

like last year...depends on the refs

WOO-HOO! Keep it up, you are helping my investment in the Kimberly-Clark Corporation, makers of Kleenex. Word is, the North West market has been a boon for Kleenex, specifically the Seattle area. Don't forget to stock up!Back to the point...yes, after the horrendous start this year, I do hope the Steelers start a nice run. If they want to get in the playoffs, they will need to hit on all cylinders for the next 6 weeks, at least.Here's to a mid season string of victories:

 

[B-Scott]

like last year...depends on the refs

The only call in any Steeler playoff game last year which was ruled incorrect by the league office was when Troy P's pick got overturned against the Colts but I guess it's convenient to forget that.The Steelers schedule is very favorable for a run. They should be favored in 7 of their next 8 games with the lone exception coming at Baltimore and if that offense continues to stink it up the Steelers might be favored in that game well. Does not mean they are going to win all these games, but the schedule is place to make it happen.

Agreed. I think ppl make a big deal out of the calls because there were multiple . But they were all legit calls. You can't push off on a DB to get seperation. The Big Ben touchdown could have gone either way. On the drive at the end of the game for Seattle when they made the pass down to the 2 yard line , and got called for holding,that was clearly holding. Had the right tackle not held,the steelers would have got a sack on that play.

 

[BGP]

Bill Cower teams have always started to click at the Mid part of the season. Once the offensive line is clicking on all cylinders,that's when there offense starts to take off. The 1st couple of weeks , Big Ben did not have the same protection as last season. Now it seems the offensive line is beginning to look a little like last season. They have games this week against Atlanta , Followed by the Raiders.Do you think they will get on a roll last like season?

I don't see strong evidence that the Steelers finish strong:2005: finished strong, 4-02004: 15-1 so they were never "weak"2003: 6-10, ended the season 1-2, 2-3, 3-4 or 4-9 depending upon how you look at it, not strong.2002: 10-5-1, finished strong at 5-1.2001: 13-3, pretty much strong all year. Lost in week 1, 8, and 16.2000: 9-7, finished strong at 4-11999: 6-10, finished weak at 1-71998: 7-9, finished weak losing their last 5 games.1997: 11-5, went 3-1 at the end1996: 10-6, went 1-3 at the end1995: 11-5, finished 8-1, losing their last game1994: 12-4, finished 7-1, losing their last game1993: 9-7, went 1-2 at the end1992: 11-5, went 1-2 at the endSo looking at Cowher's body of work, 14 seasons, he has 6 weak finishes. Almost half the time. 5 of his last 6 seasons did not feature weak finishes, however. 5 of his first 8 did.

 

[Bad_Mo]

Nope.

There are going nowhere fast this season. Sorry, Steeler faithful.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

Yes. They are the best team in football.

 

[jetpack]

Nope.There are going nowhere fast this season. Sorry, Steeler faithful.

Not much into supporting data, eh?I'll say the Steelers are on track for an 8-8 or 9-7 season. Here's why:1. Already in the hole 2-3. To "get on a roll" to finish 11-5 like last year they'd have to finish 9-2. 2. Their schedule says they won't do that. They still have to play DEN, NO, BALx2, @CIN, @CAR. That's includes some of the toughest defenses. Sure, there's always Cleveland and Oakland on the schedule, but you don't have that every week.I'd say their game at Atlanta is a real indicator of how the Steeler season will play out. If they beat the Falcons, then I'll take the over because it means that what we all saw at the beginning of the season wasn't entirely an accurate picture. If they don't beat ATL, then they'll be right on target for 8-8/9-7 and likely out of the playoff picture (although in the AFC North...). Frankly, they just started in too deep a hole. It would take a huge amount of team chemistry, luck, and karma to get on 2005-type roll then, and that just doesn't happen 2 years in a row.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Bill Cower teams have always started to click at the Mid part of the season. Once the offensive line is clicking on all cylinders,that's when there offense starts to take off. The 1st couple of weeks , Big Ben did not have the same protection as last season. Now it seems the offensive line is beginning to look a little like last season. They have games this week against Atlanta , Followed by the Raiders.

Do you think they will get on a roll last like season?

I don't see strong evidence that the Steelers finish strong:2005: finished strong, 4-0

2004: 15-1 so they were never "weak"

2003: 6-10, ended the season 1-2, 2-3, 3-4 or 4-9 depending upon how you look at it, not strong.

2002: 10-5-1, finished strong at 5-1.

2001: 13-3, pretty much strong all year. Lost in week 1, 8, and 16.

2000: 9-7, finished strong at 4-1

1999: 6-10, finished weak at 1-7

1998: 7-9, finished weak losing their last 5 games.

1997: 11-5, went 3-1 at the end

1996: 10-6, went 1-3 at the end

1995: 11-5, finished 8-1, losing their last game

1994: 12-4, finished 7-1, losing their last game

1993: 9-7, went 1-2 at the end

1992: 11-5, went 1-2 at the end

So looking at Cowher's body of work, 14 seasons, he has 6 weak finishes. Almost half the time. 5 of his last 6 seasons did not feature weak finishes, however. 5 of his first 8 did.

Only twice in Cowher's 14 seasons has he had a losing record in the 2nd half of a season, 1998 and 1999. Interesting to note that since Cowher started in 1992 the Steelers have the most wins/best win % of any NFL team. His 1st half and 2nd half record has been remarkably consistent:Games 1-8: 73-39 (.652 win %)

Games 9-16: 68-43-1 (612 win %)

 

[The Jerk]

I don't know if they will get on a roll, but they will be favored to win their next five games (@ATL, @OAK, DEN, NO, @CLE). If they are a good enough team to make they playoffs, they'll win them all and be on pace for at least 10 wins this year. I'm not convinced all of their struggles are behind them, but I think we'll all know a lot more after the Falcons game is complete.

 

[Godsbrother]

I don't know if they will get on a roll, but they will be favored to win their next five games (@ATL, @OAK, DEN, NO, @CLE). If they are a good enough team to make they playoffs, they'll win them all and be on pace for at least 10 wins this year. I'm not convinced all of their struggles are behind them, but I think we'll all know a lot more after the Falcons game is complete.

This week's game will tell a lot about the 2006 Steelers.

 

[Kai's Hero]

like last year...depends on the refs

WOO-HOO! Keep it up, you are helping my investment in the Kimberly-Clark Corporation, makers of Kleenex. Word is, the North West market has been a boon for Kleenex, specifically the Seattle area. Don't forget to stock up!Back to the point...yes, after the horrendous start this year, I do hope the Steelers start a nice run. If they want to get in the playoffs, they will need to hit on all cylinders for the next 6 weeks, at least.Here's to a mid season string of victories:

They're done. Stick a fork in em'.

 

[Kai's Hero]

Yes. They are the best team in football.

 

[B-Scott]

The thing about the steelers is they are a streak type team. They can run off 8 games in a row out of nowhere. The key is there offensive line. Once the line is playing well. Look out. The running game starts to dominate,and Big Ben is able to sit in the pocket and pick teams apart.

 

[DrunkinDwarf]

Bill Cower teams have always started to click at the Mid part of the season. Once the offensive line is clicking on all cylinders,that's when there offense starts to take off. The 1st couple of weeks , Big Ben did not have the same protection as last season. Now it seems the offensive line is beginning to look a little like last season. They have games this week against Atlanta , Followed by the Raiders.

Do you think they will get on a roll last like season?

I don't see strong evidence that the Steelers finish strong:2005: finished strong, 4-0

2004: 15-1 so they were never "weak"

2003: 6-10, ended the season 1-2, 2-3, 3-4 or 4-9 depending upon how you look at it, not strong.

2002: 10-5-1, finished strong at 5-1.

2001: 13-3, pretty much strong all year. Lost in week 1, 8, and 16.

2000: 9-7, finished strong at 4-1

1999: 6-10, finished weak at 1-7

1998: 7-9, finished weak losing their last 5 games.

1997: 11-5, went 3-1 at the end

1996: 10-6, went 1-3 at the end

1995: 11-5, finished 8-1, losing their last game

1994: 12-4, finished 7-1, losing their last game

1993: 9-7, went 1-2 at the end

1992: 11-5, went 1-2 at the end

So looking at Cowher's body of work, 14 seasons, he has 6 weak finishes. Almost half the time. 5 of his last 6 seasons did not feature weak finishes, however. 5 of his first 8 did.

Only twice in Cowher's 14 seasons has he had a losing record in the 2nd half of a season, 1998 and 1999. Interesting to note that since Cowher started in 1992 the Steelers have the most wins/best win % of any NFL team. His 1st half and 2nd half record has been remarkably consistent:Games 1-8: 73-39 (.652 win %)

Games 9-16: 68-43-1 (612 win %)

 

[The Jacket]

Their defense will keep them in just about every game. The questions are whether Ben can find some consistency and whether Parker can continue to pound the rock all season.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

Bill Cower teams have always started to click at the Mid part of the season. Once the offensive line is clicking on all cylinders,that's when there offense starts to take off. The 1st couple of weeks , Big Ben did not have the same protection as last season. Now it seems the offensive line is beginning to look a little like last season. They have games this week against Atlanta , Followed by the Raiders.

Do you think they will get on a roll last like season?

I don't see strong evidence that the Steelers finish strong:2005: finished strong, 4-0

2004: 15-1 so they were never "weak"

2003: 6-10, ended the season 1-2, 2-3, 3-4 or 4-9 depending upon how you look at it, not strong.

2002: 10-5-1, finished strong at 5-1.

2001: 13-3, pretty much strong all year. Lost in week 1, 8, and 16.

2000: 9-7, finished strong at 4-1

1999: 6-10, finished weak at 1-7

1998: 7-9, finished weak losing their last 5 games.

1997: 11-5, went 3-1 at the end

1996: 10-6, went 1-3 at the end

1995: 11-5, finished 8-1, losing their last game

1994: 12-4, finished 7-1, losing their last game

1993: 9-7, went 1-2 at the end

1992: 11-5, went 1-2 at the end

So looking at Cowher's body of work, 14 seasons, he has 6 weak finishes. Almost half the time. 5 of his last 6 seasons did not feature weak finishes, however. 5 of his first 8 did.

Wow. IMO this is a classic example of making numbers say what you want them to. The biggest flaw in your analysis is that you are constantly shifting the scope of your evidence. You are making the samples bigger or smaller to suit your argument. (Ex. 2003: 6-10, ended the season 1-2, 2-3, 3-4 or 4-9 depending upon how you look at it, not strong. - dead givaway of manipulating evidence).I would be curious to see 1st 4 games vs last 4 games, or first 6 vs last 6. Or even a relative comparison to other teams in the same time increments. But current your approach is biased.

Edit: IMHO I think the Steelers do finish strong IF Big Ben can get his feet under him and start throwing the long ball more accurately. I think he remains the main cog in that offense and therefore the Steelers season.

 

[Irish]

Bill Cower teams have always started to click at the Mid part of the season. Once the offensive line is clicking on all cylinders,that's when there offense starts to take off. The 1st couple of weeks , Big Ben did not have the same protection as last season. Now it seems the offensive line is beginning to look a little like last season. They have games this week against Atlanta , Followed by the Raiders.Do you think they will get on a roll last like season?

I don't see strong evidence that the Steelers finish strong:2005: finished strong, 4-02004: 15-1 so they were never "weak"2003: 6-10, ended the season 1-2, 2-3, 3-4 or 4-9 depending upon how you look at it, not strong.2002: 10-5-1, finished strong at 5-1.2001: 13-3, pretty much strong all year. Lost in week 1, 8, and 16.2000: 9-7, finished strong at 4-11999: 6-10, finished weak at 1-71998: 7-9, finished weak losing their last 5 games.1997: 11-5, went 3-1 at the end1996: 10-6, went 1-3 at the end1995: 11-5, finished 8-1, losing their last game1994: 12-4, finished 7-1, losing their last game1993: 9-7, went 1-2 at the end1992: 11-5, went 1-2 at the endSo looking at Cowher's body of work, 14 seasons, he has 6 weak finishes. Almost half the time. 5 of his last 6 seasons did not feature weak finishes, however. 5 of his first 8 did.

Steelers in 2004 were 15-1, but BGP decides not to include that season. They were 15-1 how is that not finishing strong. Since 2000 Cowher's Steelers have finished strong 5 out of the 6 seasons. BGP you kill me with your analysis skills.

 

[poopdawg]

Bill Cower teams have always started to click at the Mid part of the season. Once the offensive line is clicking on all cylinders,that's when there offense starts to take off. The 1st couple of weeks , Big Ben did not have the same protection as last season. Now it seems the offensive line is beginning to look a little like last season. They have games this week against Atlanta , Followed by the Raiders.

Do you think they will get on a roll last like season?

I don't see strong evidence that the Steelers finish strong:2005: finished strong, 4-0

2004: 15-1 so they were never "weak"

2003: 6-10, ended the season 1-2, 2-3, 3-4 or 4-9 depending upon how you look at it, not strong.

2002: 10-5-1, finished strong at 5-1.

2001: 13-3, pretty much strong all year. Lost in week 1, 8, and 16.

2000: 9-7, finished strong at 4-1

1999: 6-10, finished weak at 1-7

1998: 7-9, finished weak losing their last 5 games.

1997: 11-5, went 3-1 at the end

1996: 10-6, went 1-3 at the end

1995: 11-5, finished 8-1, losing their last game

1994: 12-4, finished 7-1, losing their last game

1993: 9-7, went 1-2 at the end

1992: 11-5, went 1-2 at the end

So looking at Cowher's body of work, 14 seasons, he has 6 weak finishes. Almost half the time. 5 of his last 6 seasons did not feature weak finishes, however. 5 of his first 8 did.

Only twice in Cowher's 14 seasons has he had a losing record in the 2nd half of a season, 1998 and 1999. Interesting to note that since Cowher started in 1992 the Steelers have the most wins/best win % of any NFL team. His 1st half and 2nd half record has been remarkably consistent:Games 1-8: 73-39 (.652 win %)

Games 9-16: 68-43-1 (612 win %)

And were not talking about the days of Brister, O'Donnell, Stewart, and Maddox anymore. We have a QB that can make #### happen.

 

[B-Scott]

If they win this weekend , expect one of those long winning streaks again. They get the raiders the following week, followed by the Broncos at Home. The broncos have not done much offensively this year.

 

[yinzer]

If they win this weekend , expect one of those long winning streaks again. They get the raiders the following week, followed by the Broncos at Home. The broncos have not done much offensively this year.

I don't give ATL much of a chance because they rely on the run and will find out it won't come that easy this week. Like you said with the Broncos offense, not doing much, so although their D has been great, I dont see them winning this one in Pittsburgh. New Orleans looks to be the toughest game besides Baltimore until the last 3 weeks, and I think that should be a good game based on how they played Philly

 

[DoGdr]

Pittsurgh has had a tough early schedule. They have needed some time to to get Big Ben recovered and in sync. Ward missed most of training camp and there are new recievers to get used to. Troy P. was also hurt the first three weeks of the season and was not the kind of factor they expect him to be. They would have won the game against the Bengal if it were not for all the turnovers. They also looked like the better team for the 1st half against San Diego. Thier secondary is not that great in pass coverage so they have to get to the QB to stop teams but I don't see a lot of scary passing offenses on thier schedule the rest of the way. I have also heard "Grind it out" running teams often take longer to get up to speed. Certainly last week they looked great.