Steve Smith Car Wants to be traded to the Raiders or the Chargers (1 Viewer)

[Carolina Hustler]

If I understand correctly, Smith is from California and wants to move closer to home. This kinda beats the "move to a Superbowl contender" idea everyone in Charlotte was thinking..

"League Source"

What are the odds? Where should he land and Why? Who or what could the Panthers expect in return?

Obviously at this point, a 2011 2nd rounder is out of the question.. lol.. Thats what I was hoping for all along. Panthers need help at both O and D line, could use a defensive back, maybe 2012 picks?

 

[sihaokills]

I would actually like it if he could come to SD

 

[drfeelgood]

According to the "source" Smith doesn't want to be on a rebuilding team since he is 32, and the source names the Chargers and Raiders as teams close to home he would want to be on. In my opinion, the Raiders are a rebuilding team right now.

 

[kylechoffman]

Smith paired with Vjax, Floyd, Gates and the rookie wr they just picked up would be exciting to watch.

 

[Da Guru]

How much does Smith have left? Not worth a whole lot at this stage.

 

[N Zone]

How much does Smith have left? Not worth a whole lot at this stage.

You are wrong.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

How much does Smith have left? Not worth a whole lot at this stage.

Hard to measure... he really hasn't had competent QB play in a few years, so I don't think making a judgement is quite so easy.He's probably not a lock top 5 WR on a team like SD, but i'd love him as a low end 2 or high end wr 3...

 

[netnalp]

SD makes sense if he wants to be on a contender close to home. If teams that could use him to boost them to the next level, if I were him I'd look at the Falcons and Bears. Detroit could be a 10 win team with Smith.

 

[todisco1]

I would have thought he'd be lobbying to be a Patriot.

 

[Eastwood]

How much does Smith have left? Not worth a whole lot at this stage.

You are wrong.

 

[Chadstroma]

With the Raiders, they have a whole lot of young guns in the WR corps and it seems like it just screams for a proven successful vet to come in and help lead/mentor them as a group. Since he wants to come to Oakland, that is a rare thing over the last few years that a big name player has wanted to come, it is further reason to grab him. And of course, the fact that the other team is the Chargers is even more incentive to go out and get him if not for any other reason than to block the dolts from grabbing him.

That being said, the Raiders have not really gone after any veteran WR's since the Walker debacle. For whatever reason, it seems that they have been happy with letting the young guys grow.

 

[sihaokills]

Yeah the Lions could use Smith... It will put a weapon with Johnson, I still believe that he has juice left in the tank.

 

[Jeff Haseley]

Smith is from So-Cal, so this makes sense. Rivera's ties to SD is another reason that the Chargers may be a landing place for him.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

How much does Smith have left? Not worth a whole lot at this stage.

Probably has another season long injury or two in him at this stage.

 

[JetMaxx]

How much does Smith have left? Not worth a whole lot at this stage.

An undersized, aging player at one of the least valuable positions. At this point if CAR gets a 4 it's a steal.

 

[DesmondBishop]

Steve Smith still plays hard every down, I would love to have a guy like that on my team, he would be a deadly slot wr for many teams. He has played the 1 the past several years which only the heart he plays with was the right size for that role, you stick him in the slot on a good passing team (Like SD) and I think he can easily post wr2 numbers.

 

[zamboni]

How much does Smith have left? Not worth a whole lot at this stage.

An undersized, aging player at one of the least valuable positions.

I think you're confusing the RB position with the WR position.32 is old for an RB, not necessarily a WR. I think Smith has plenty left in the tank - maybe not what he used to be, but enough to still be a big-time weapon.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

How much does Smith have left? Not worth a whole lot at this stage.

An undersized, aging player at one of the least valuable positions.

I think you're confusing the RB position with the WR position.32 is old for an RB, not necessarily a WR. I think Smith has plenty left in the tank - maybe not what he used to be, but enough to still be a big-time weapon.

And I agree. Smith is intriguing. But the problem is we already have a young version of him in Jacoby Ford. It's difficult to keep one or the other on the sidelines, but I think there is only so many plays for smurf WR's in the playbook. Smith would be an instant upgrade to the WR corps, but there are better potential WR fits, like Ochocinco, who has a history with Hue Jackson, and has said he'd run through brick walls for him.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Oakland is pretty crowded so I don't think he is going there. Excellent point about Jacoby Ford who flashed some major skills as a rookie.

 

[simey]

Smith is from So-Cal, so this makes sense. Rivera's ties to SD is another reason that the Chargers may be a landing place for him.

I'd like to see Rivers throwing to Smith.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Odd that he mentioned the Raiders and not the 49ers. Does he think the Silver and Black still play in L.A.?

 

[loose circuits]

Yeah the Lions could use Smith... It will put a weapon with Johnson, I still believe that he has juice left in the tank.

isn't that why they drafted titus young? wouldn't he just stunt the development?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Yeah the Lions could use Smith... It will put a weapon with Johnson, I still believe that he has juice left in the tank.

isn't that why they drafted titus young? wouldn't he just stunt the development?

Maybe their main goal this season is to win as many games as possible, and developing Titus Young is only secondary. Plus I don't think easing a young WR into an offense necessarily stunts their growth anyway. With all that said, the Lions have more than enough firepower on offense already so I dom't see them making a run at Smith unless he was very cheap.

 

[Jeff Haseley]

Smith still has a lot left in the tank. He would be an excellent fit with a marquis QB like Rivers. Consider him a Top 15 WR if that happens. No doubt in my mind that he still has a lot to prove and play for.

 

[dmac37]

Smith still has a lot left in the tank. He would be an excellent fit with a marquis QB like Rivers. Consider him a Top 15 WR if that happens. No doubt in my mind that he still has a lot to prove and play for.

ThisAs a Smith owner I think SD is destination #1 for FF and it also seems to make sense for both Smith and SD, we can only hope.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

SD would be real dumb to trade for him.

 

[Tau837]

Smith paired with Vjax, Floyd, Gates and the rookie wr they just picked up would be exciting to watch.

Jackson and Floyd are both free agents, no? I presume they'd let one of them walk if they got Smith.

Jackson, Floyd, Naanee, and Washington are all UFAs. And Davis has one year remaining on his contract; I expect him to be cut.That leaves Ajirotutu, Crayton, and Vincent Brown, who was just drafted in the third round.I have been expecting Jackson, Naanee, Washington, and Davis to be gone and Floyd to be resigned. I suppose in theory if they brought in Smith, they could let Floyd go as well, but I doubt they would want to move forward with no WRs with any experience in their system. So perhaps they would still resign Floyd but also add Smith, making those two the starters.

 

[drfeelgood]

Odd that he mentioned the Raiders and not the 49ers. Does he think the Silver and Black still play in L.A.?

Who knows if he really mentioned SD or the Raiders since this is coming from a "source."

 

[kylechoffman]

Smith paired with Vjax, Floyd, Gates and the rookie wr they just picked up would be exciting to watch.

Jackson and Floyd are both free agents, no? I presume they'd let one of them walk if they got Smith.

Jackson, Floyd, Naanee, and Washington are all UFAs. And Davis has one year remaining on his contract; I expect him to be cut.That leaves Ajirotutu, Crayton, and Vincent Brown, who was just drafted in the third round.I have been expecting Jackson, Naanee, Washington, and Davis to be gone and Floyd to be resigned. I suppose in theory if they brought in Smith, they could let Floyd go as well, but I doubt they would want to move forward with no WRs with any experience in their system. So perhaps they would still resign Floyd but also add Smith, making those two the starters.

Jackson was franchised but that was done before the lockout so that may be worthless. Even if the tag remains, he could of course be signed by someone else but that would mean compensation to the bolts. The chargers are in a pickle though if they let all that talent walk.

 

[FavreCo]

Send him to Oakland and finish him off.

 

[Tau837]

Smith paired with Vjax, Floyd, Gates and the rookie wr they just picked up would be exciting to watch.

Jackson and Floyd are both free agents, no? I presume they'd let one of them walk if they got Smith.

Jackson, Floyd, Naanee, and Washington are all UFAs. And Davis has one year remaining on his contract; I expect him to be cut.That leaves Ajirotutu, Crayton, and Vincent Brown, who was just drafted in the third round.I have been expecting Jackson, Naanee, Washington, and Davis to be gone and Floyd to be resigned. I suppose in theory if they brought in Smith, they could let Floyd go as well, but I doubt they would want to move forward with no WRs with any experience in their system. So perhaps they would still resign Floyd but also add Smith, making those two the starters.

Jackson was franchised but that was done before the lockout so that may be worthless. Even if the tag remains, he could of course be signed by someone else but that would mean compensation to the bolts. The chargers are in a pickle though if they let all that talent walk.

Yes, I think the franchise means nothing at this point. If the season is played under no CBA, I'd be shocked if there are tags. If a new CBA is reached, it could change or eliminate the CBA. And even if it sticks, he could be traded. A.J. Smith made it clear last year that he didn't feel he needed Jackson enough to pay him big money, I see no reason to think he is now willing to pay Jackson $9M or whatever the franchise number would be. Or to sign him to a long term deal at the numbers Jackson wants.That is largely why I think they will resign Floyd. Floyd is quite good for the Chargers offense, he just has trouble staying healthy. At 30 and with that injury history, I assume there won't be a big market for him, meaning the Chargers can resign him for a reasonable price.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

I seem to be one of the few who thinks VJ will stay in SD, but failing that they would surely hang on to Floyd.

From a scheme perspective, SD likes big/tall leapers and drafts perfect guys for their system. Paying $7m and a draft pick for Steve Smith makes no sense for them.

I guess we're all pretty bored right now though.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Send him to Oakland and finish him off.

A couple of years too late for that. JaMarcus could have floated some high throws over the middle in traffic. That would have done the job.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=590445&st=0&p=13105685&hl=wiscstlatlmia&fromsearch=1entry13105685

 

[massraider]

1. I have seen this rumor on two sites, that I have never visited before. What, exactly, is that site linked above?

2. I understand the basis for people saying Smitty is done. I think that basis is: I have not seen any Panther games, but the offense is crap, and Smitty is old. Nothing is further from the truth. Last year, his speed was still there, and he beat CBs every game. He usually watched the ball sail behind him after he did it, but he was beating guys.

3. I get a morbid laugh thinking that the Raiders WR corps just doesn't have the room for Smitty. Smitty is a leader, as tough as anyone in the league pound-for-pound, and is not some runt slot WR who needs special gameplanning because he is so small. If Smitty were to come to Oakland, it would be Louis Murphy, or DHB, or Chaz Schilens that wouldn't have the snaps. Ford had a great rookie year, and he really looks like a playmaker, but he is not the reason you don't add a Steve Smith.

4. Agree that a vet WR doesn't seem to be a Raider priority. They didn't do it when DHB, Murph, and Chaz were two years younger, they won't do it now.

5. San Diego? Well, they have a lot of vet WRs that perform, that they can re-sign without having to give up a draft pick. Plus, my observation seems to be that whichever WR SD runs out there, Rivers makes look great. I can't dismiss it outright, and there is a lot of question marks on the SD WR staff, but if you have good bodies there now, why let them all go, and trade draft picks for another guy?

6. I wonder about what kind of trade value a 32-year-old WR can get. I would say that 2-3 years of Smith being helpful to a team is about right, is that worth a 2nd rounder? I think it is, but it wouldn't surprise me if Carolina couldn't get that.

7. My questioning the source above aside, I do believe the stories that Smitty wants out, and that Carolina will try and accommodate him. He hasn't had a QB for a few years, so I hope he goes somewhere with a decent offense. He's a fun guy to watch play.

 

[dmac37]

I'm still thinking Smiff has a good chance to end up in Charger powder blue!!

Report on Rotoworld: Chargers 'monitoring' WR Steve Smith

According to the San Diego Union-Tribune, the Chargers are "monitoring" the Steve Smith situation in Carolina.

The Union-Trib compares GM A.J. Smith's interest in the disgruntled wideout to how he approached the Bob Sanders situation. Smitty won't be cut like Sanders was, but the Chargers may make an aggressive move after other teams attempt to woo the three-time All-Pro receiver. Smith is known to be interested in playing for the Chargers. He'll likely be available for a second-day pick. Source: San Diego Union-Tribune May 6, 8:53 PM

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Keep him out of Oakland, I'd like Jacoby Ford to remain the only viable receiving option there. Unless of course he's just going to draw coverage.

 

[Dez]

How much does Smith have left? Not worth a whole lot at this stage.

An undersized, aging player at one of the least valuable positions. At this point if CAR gets a 4 it's a steal.

Certainly the same was said about Moss going to NE in 2007 and how did that work out ?

 

[Ghost of Bill Walsh]

Sure he wants to go to a contender but he may not have much say in that if they trade him. Even at 32 I'd GLADLY like to see him with the 49ers. He's a so-cal boy but I guess there's not much chance of him becoming a 49er. He could surely help our offense though.

 

[Garrett]

According to the "source" Smith doesn't want to be on a rebuilding team since he is 32, and the source names the Chargers and Raiders as teams close to home he would want to be on. In my opinion, the Raiders are a rebuilding team right now.

Oakland beat San Diego twice last year.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

As a Steve Smith owner I approve this move.

 

[Raider Nation]

Jackson, Floyd, Naanee, and Washington are all UFAs. And Davis has one year remaining on his contract; I expect him to be cut.That leaves Ajirotutu, Crayton, and Vincent Brown, who was just drafted in the third round.

Based on recent history, it would appear that A.J. favors large WRs. Is Smith just one of those guys you throw the blueprint out the window for?

 

[Tau837]

Jackson, Floyd, Naanee, and Washington are all UFAs. And Davis has one year remaining on his contract; I expect him to be cut.That leaves Ajirotutu, Crayton, and Vincent Brown, who was just drafted in the third round.

Based on recent history, it would appear that A.J. favors large WRs. Is Smith just one of those guys you throw the blueprint out the window for?

That is generally true, but Smith has traded for Chambers (5'11") and Crayton (6'0") in recent years. I realize Smith is only 5'9" but IMO he plays a bit bigger than his size, so I don't see Chambers or Crayton as really having an advantage over him due to height. Yes, I think you can throw out the blueprint with Smith.That said, I don't see A.J. trading for him. Smith's contract has two years remaining: $7 million in 2011 and $7.75 million in 2012. Based on how A.J. handled Jackson last year, I think it's safe to conclude that he does not feel he needs to pay that kind of money for a WR, not to mention that he would have to give something up in a trade in addition to paying those salaries. If Smith was a free agent, that would be a different story, but I'm not sure there is any real chance of him being released. So I don't see him playing for the Chargers.As a Chargers fan, I'd rather see Smith give in and sign Jackson to a new deal than to trade something to Carolina for Smith and pay him $15M over the next two years.

 

[Jeff Haseley]

It will be a sad day in the Carolinas when Steve Smith moves on to another team, but it's always better to trade a player two years too early than two years too late. I firmly believe he will play at a competitive level for at least 3-4 more years, provided he lands in the right area. He's the type of player who has the drive to be effective into his late 30's.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

That said, I don't see A.J. trading for him. Smith's contract has two years remaining: $7 million in 2011 and $7.75 million in 2012. Based on how A.J. handled Jackson last year, I think it's safe to conclude that he does not feel he needs to pay that kind of money for a WR, not to mention that he would have to give something up in a trade in addition to paying those salaries.

I don't think it's safe to conclude much about what AJ Smith would be willing to pay a non-RFA from observing what he was or wasn't willing to pay an RFA.You may well be right that AJ Smith wouldn't want to pay Steve Smith $7-$8 million a year; but I don't think the Vincent Jackson situation last year tells us much about that one way or the other. JMHO.

As a Chargers fan, I'd rather see Smith give in and sign Jackson to a new deal than to trade something to Carolina for Smith and pay him $15M over the next two years.

Agreed.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

this doesnt feel like an AJ smith move.

 

[Buckna]

I have no doubt that if he is traded the acquiring team will be restructuring his contract and likely will have worked out something ahead of time.

 

[Sweet Love]

It will be a sad day in the Carolinas when Steve Smith moves on to another team, but it's always better to trade a player two years too early than two years too late. I firmly believe he will play at a competitive level for at least 3-4 more years, provided he lands in the right area. He's the type of player who has the drive to be effective into his late 30's.

Oh, Jeff...oh, Jeff. SS is the epitome of a player who is both more valued in his own mind and by his own fans (i.e. current team's fans), than anyone else. I know you had to think about breaking the norm when it came to the cliche "better to trade a player ONE year early, than ONE year too late"...there is no TWO year rule, but that just reveals the Teal Goggles you are looking through. We are talking about a guy who is much more Herman Moore and Anquan Boldin than Jerry Rice or Cris Carter. Smith is no pretty boy!!! That is why you love him and that is why you have to leave him. He will never have another 1K season, nor will he ever have another 7+ TD season. I am sorry, but that is what happens when you live life like Wayne Chrebet. It is not pretty, but glorious as it lasts. It is certainly not sustainable.

 

[JFurby]

I understand why the OP worded the thread title the way he did, but everytime I see it I wonder why Steve Smith can't just take his car to a local auto dealership? It seems like they would be a more likely trade-in partner for his car than an NFL franchise.

 

[BoltBacker]

The chargers are in a pickle though if they let all that talent walk.

Last year everyone said they'd be in a pickle if they didn't have Jackson, and they finished with the most passing yards in the NFL. Keep in mind that was with Gates dinged up. Massraider has a pretty good read on the situation. Put Rivers out there with protection and he'll make the WR's.As far as Steve Smith goes it wouldn't be all that shocking to me to see the team pursue a rich-man's Chambers. The move would give AJ much better bargaining position when dealing with the current FA WR's and even if his detractors won't admit it, one thing AJ understands is bargaining position. In fact he understands it so well that many people on these very boards run around every year saying "NO TALENTED PLAYERS WILL EVER WANT TO PLAY FOR SD BECAUSE OF AJ!!! ACKKK!!" even though that statement is proven to be pretty stupid time and time again.