Steven Jackson's injury LONG TERM (1 Viewer)

[CMU37484]

I know I know, another Steven Jackson thread, but he's OUT this week, I get it, nothing new there.

I'm worried about LONG TERM and an wondering if anyone has hear any updaes over the past few days on this.

The latest I've seen is..........

"The Associated Press reports the St. Louis Rams have not changed their diagnosis of a strained thigh injury suffered by RB Steven Jackson (thigh). Although Jackson will miss his third game in the last four in Week 11, he said doctors have told him two MRI exams have revealed mostly swelling and inflammation. Jackson, however, has expressed concern over the nature of his injury. 'I really didn't think I would miss a game, let alone two or three,' Jackson said. 'For it to linger like this, it really begins to make you wonder what's really going on.'"

Any Rams homers out there or anyone hearing anything else about this? I'm a lock to make my playoffs but really am worried about his Week 14-16 schedule and if he will be playing at 100%. Could the Rams shelf this guy? He's got the Cards, Seahawks, and 49ers durig the payoffs.

 

[Blackjacks]

I think his mangina will be a problem for the rest of his career.

 

[CMU37484]

I think his mangina will be a problem for the rest of his career.

Helpful, THANKS!!

 

[Sabertooth]

I think his mangina will be a problem for the rest of his career.

Helpful, THANKS!!

Well, he's got a point. Jackson, for how big and strong he is, hasn't been very durable. Tougher players would probably play through an injury like this. I mean you have Westbrook playing with broken ribs and ankle problems as a comparison.

 

[moviedude25]

The entire situation in St Louis reakes of suckeynesss. If Jackson was playing it would help them but only a very little bit. They have one of the worst teams in the league. Bad offensive line, bad QB, and no WR's worthy of taking pressure off the running game. Before Avery fans get in my crap, sorry to tell you but Avery was producing when people still thought Holt was still able to play like he used too. Now that other teams know Holt's best days are behind him they are concentrating on stopping Avery its hurt him and since Bulger can't seem to play QB anymore he can't get Avery the ball. Even if Jackson was back, he's got no team around him to open lanes for him to run and will likely stink the rest of the year.

Try and trade him now and you'll be lucky to get Berrian or Julius Jones for him. As a first round pick in most drafts he's been a bust and likely will drop much lower next year.

 

[Shrek]

I think his mangina will be a problem for the rest of his career.

Helpful, THANKS!!

Well, he's got a point. Jackson, for how big and strong he is, hasn't been very durable. Tougher players would probably play through an injury like this. I mean you have Westbrook playing with broken ribs and ankle problems as a comparison.

He should change his name to Tito- he's as soft as tissue. STL fans should be shredding him. He can seem to get up for one or two games a year, but aside from that he's basically a liability. I'll bet they're wishing they had let him go to FA right about now.

 

[3nOut]

OP, when you asy long term, do you mean long term THIS year, or keeper/dynasty? In keeper/dynasty, he's a great Buy Low IMO.

 

[RenegadeGM]

The entire situation in St Louis reakes of suckeynesss. If Jackson was playing it would help them but only a very little bit. They have one of the worst teams in the league. Bad offensive line, bad QB, and no WR's worthy of taking pressure off the running game. Before Avery fans get in my crap, sorry to tell you but Avery was producing when people still thought Holt was still able to play like he used too. Now that other teams know Holt's best days are behind him they are concentrating on stopping Avery its hurt him and since Bulger can't seem to play QB anymore he can't get Avery the ball. Even if Jackson was back, he's got no team around him to open lanes for him to run and will likely stink the rest of the year. Try and trade him now and you'll be lucky to get Berrian or Julius Jones for him. As a first round pick in most drafts he's been a bust and likely will drop much lower next year.

Not saying I totally disagree about STL, but one thing to remember is that these same things were being said about the Rams last year (and were just as true then, if not more so). However, when Jackson returned for good Week 10 of last year, he was one of the best RB in fantasy football from Weeks 10-16. Just check the 2007 game logs.Because of this, I wouldn't write him off just yet. Take last year into account, plus his schedule this year, and he could give a team a huge boost, even if he plays only weeks 13-16. If he didn't "shut it down" last year, I doubt he does this year either.

 

[Blackjacks]

I think his mangina will be a problem for the rest of his career.

Helpful, THANKS!!

Well, he's got a point. Jackson, for how big and strong he is, hasn't been very durable. Tougher players would probably play through an injury like this. I mean you have Westbrook playing with broken ribs and ankle problems as a comparison.

He should change his name to Tito- he's as soft as tissue. STL fans should be shredding him. He can seem to get up for one or two games a year, but aside from that he's basically a liability. I'll bet they're wishing they had let him go to FA right about now.

I am a STL fan and I am shredding him. He comes out and says all this crap and then can't deliver and doesn't play with a little injury. Words of advice to S-Jax.

"If your gonna talk the talk....than you better learn to walk the walk"

 

[ScoobyDoo]

He's always hurt. Last year he was hurt and came back a beast overinflating his draft position. Now he's hurt again shattering all of us that took him.

 

[Black]

He's always hurt. Last year he was hurt and came back a beast overinflating his draft position. Now he's hurt again shattering all of us that took him.

Criminy...give it a rest. This guy is a professional athlete who has an injury. He would play if he could. He did last year. Ok, he's injury prone; probably because he runs very hard.I am pretty sure he couldn't care less about his fantasy draft position or the 20 bucks you get when you beat your wife and co-workers in your fantasy league.

 

[zdaddy]

Remember the night he first got hurt, Bulger came out and said he thought Jackson would be out 2-4 weeks. Looks like Bulger knew what he was talking about.

 

[zdaddy]

He's always hurt. Last year he was hurt and came back a beast overinflating his draft position. Now he's hurt again shattering all of us that took him.

That is all I'm lookin for.

 

[CMU37484]

OP, when you asy long term, do you mean long term THIS year, or keeper/dynasty? In keeper/dynasty, he's a great Buy Low IMO.

Well, I own him so I'm not looking to buy, and I'm not gonna sell eitehr at this point simply due to value. I'm in a redraft league FWIW.My concern is about 3, 4, 5 weeks down the road once the fantasy playoffs hit. He's got a decent schedule...........So far all that's happened here is all the SJax haters have come out and called him a pansy. Some are ripping him due to him being "always hurt" and "doesn't play with a little injury" and comparing a quadriceps/thigh muscle injury to a running back to rib injuries seems silly. A healthy leg seems pretty critical for a RB but hey, I'm not in the medical field. And yes, last year he dealt with injuries but once he was healthy he was rock solid the last stretch of the season.I was hoping to get input on if anyone thinks this is going to keep lingering throughout the season, if the Rams are talking about sitting him down longer, etc. etc.

 

[The Moz]

I have never heard of a thigh bruise keeping a player out a month! Guy has already had 2 MRI's if it was something more serious would we already know about it?

Damn I am 9-2 and really need Sjax for my title run - If he is practicing this week I like his chances thorughout - If he sits this week as well - I am 50% away from stickign a fork in rest of the season.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Portis should give him a call and tell him to take off his skirt and play. One guy playing with a sprained MCL and the other a strained quad keeps him out a month.

 

[Shrek]

I am pretty sure he couldn't care less about his fantasy draft position

He has a pretty well documented history of talking directly to fantasy owners about selecting him and/or counting on him to deliver. He talks directly to fans via his website. He's quite aware of what impact FF has on his popularity. Not that it really matters, of course, but the poster has a point. Quit talking smack if you aren't going to back it up.

 

[ukshane]

He is a paycheck player who just got paid. He's done as a fantasy football stud. See LJ, Alexander and Priest.

 

[Sake-Bombers]

I grew up in St. Louis and am a huge Rams fan, so I've been following this situation from afar. I can't speak to what is being said locally in St. Louis (although I know everyone is ripping him in local message boards I visit too, in the same vain as a lot of this people in this thread saying he's not tough), but I can give you my read on the situation from following it over the past few weeks.

Going back to the Week 9 game against Arizona, there was great hope around the Rams believe it or not. Two big wins against the Redskins and Cowboys and a respectable showing against New England even without him had people back to being optimistic about the team. If the Rams win that game, everyone was saying, they actually had a shot to win the division. So Jackson tells Haslett he can play, recognizing it's a huge game. He goes out to the huddle, hears the play call is a run to the outside with a cut, and pulls himself out of the game, saying the can't operate that play. Haslett is stunned at this. Pittman goes in, pulls his hamstring on that play. So now Haslett has Jackson telling him that he needs to be limited, and Pittman with a tweaked hamstring. Travis Minor, the only other active RB, gets a concussion on special teams. Pittman ends up gutting it out and performs horribly, but the Rams had no other option, and the Rams get CREAMED by the Cardinals. Haslett is fuming.

And Haslett is still pissed at Jackson for this. That's why he puts down the ultimatum that he's got to go through a full practice and show no limitations before he can play. The following week, Jackson barely even sniffs the practice field. This week, Jackson wants to be a warrior, goes through practice on Wednesday harder than he has since the injury. Ends up flaring up on him again on Thursday. As the Rams go to SF, Jackson decides he needs to see a specialist. He's saying publicly that he wants to play "hurt" but he's now concerned that he's "injured." But the two MRIs he has just so swelling.

In my opinion, I think Haslett is still carrying a grudge here for Jackson pulling himself out of the first play of that huge Arizona game a couple weeks ago. Jackson knows this, but also knows something's not right, regardless of what the MRIs he had already say. My understanding (I could be wrong) is that it was Jackson's call to go see the specialist this weekend, not the Rams, because S-Jax wants to know what's up, and be able to go back to Haslett to say - "see, I told you this was worse than you thought."

Either way, I think S-Jax has a long way to go before Haslett wants to throw him out there again.

On the flip side, Pittman comes off that hamstring injury against the Cardinals and ends up putting in the "full" practice on the Friday of the Jets game. He ends up starting that one over Darby, although the Rams were never in that game even a little bit. Haslett respects that Pittman came back so quickly from that injury but is disappointed in how he did, but gave him his full support this week going into the Niners game, but saying he needed to step it up. And even though the Rams got creamed again, Pittman put in a more than respectable effort this weekend, although the game got way out of hand pretty quickly.

So my opinion on this as a Rams fan and an interested fantasy owner - I think it's a longshot Steven Jackson makes much more of an impact this year unless he completely heals, and quick. Full practices are the key thing to look for here, and I think Haslett's going to make sure he can practice almost all week before he lets himself get burned by Jackson again.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

He doesn't play, and play well this year and I send someone to break his kneecap...then he can have a legit injury to cry about.

 

[chidoy]

So my opinion on this as a Rams fan and an interested fantasy owner - I think it's a longshot Steven Jackson makes much more of an impact this year unless he completely heals, and quick. Full practices are the key thing to look for here, and I think Haslett's going to make sure he can practice almost all week before he lets himself get burned by Jackson again.

Thanks for the thoughtful insight...

 

[TheFanatic]

I grew up in St. Louis and am a huge Rams fan, so I've been following this situation from afar. I can't speak to what is being said locally in St. Louis (although I know everyone is ripping him in local message boards I visit too, in the same vain as a lot of this people in this thread saying he's not tough), but I can give you my read on the situation from following it over the past few weeks.

Going back to the Week 9 game against Arizona, there was great hope around the Rams believe it or not. Two big wins against the Redskins and Cowboys and a respectable showing against New England even without him had people back to being optimistic about the team. If the Rams win that game, everyone was saying, they actually had a shot to win the division. So Jackson tells Haslett he can play, recognizing it's a huge game. He goes out to the huddle, hears the play call is a run to the outside with a cut, and pulls himself out of the game, saying the can't operate that play. Haslett is stunned at this. Pittman goes in, pulls his hamstring on that play. So now Haslett has Jackson telling him that he needs to be limited, and Pittman with a tweaked hamstring. Travis Minor, the only other active RB, gets a concussion on special teams. Pittman ends up gutting it out and performs horribly, but the Rams had no other option, and the Rams get CREAMED by the Cardinals. Haslett is fuming.

And Haslett is still pissed at Jackson for this. That's why he puts down the ultimatum that he's got to go through a full practice and show no limitations before he can play. The following week, Jackson barely even sniffs the practice field. This week, Jackson wants to be a warrior, goes through practice on Wednesday harder than he has since the injury. Ends up flaring up on him again on Thursday. As the Rams go to SF, Jackson decides he needs to see a specialist. He's saying publicly that he wants to play "hurt" but he's now concerned that he's "injured." But the two MRIs he has just so swelling.

In my opinion, I think Haslett is still carrying a grudge here for Jackson pulling himself out of the first play of that huge Arizona game a couple weeks ago. Jackson knows this, but also knows something's not right, regardless of what the MRIs he had already say. My understanding (I could be wrong) is that it was Jackson's call to go see the specialist this weekend, not the Rams, because S-Jax wants to know what's up, and be able to go back to Haslett to say - "see, I told you this was worse than you thought."

Either way, I think S-Jax has a long way to go before Haslett wants to throw him out there again.

On the flip side, Pittman comes off that hamstring injury against the Cardinals and ends up putting in the "full" practice on the Friday of the Jets game. He ends up starting that one over Darby, although the Rams were never in that game even a little bit. Haslett respects that Pittman came back so quickly from that injury but is disappointed in how he did, but gave him his full support this week going into the Niners game, but saying he needed to step it up. And even though the Rams got creamed again, Pittman put in a more than respectable effort this weekend, although the game got way out of hand pretty quickly.

So my opinion on this as a Rams fan and an interested fantasy owner - I think it's a longshot Steven Jackson makes much more of an impact this year unless he completely heals, and quick. Full practices are the key thing to look for here, and I think Haslett's going to make sure he can practice almost all week before he lets himself get burned by Jackson again.

I was coming in here to post this line. The rest of the write up is very good considering you aren't in this city.Guys play hurt all the time. He's not hurt. He's injured is the mantra coming from Howard Balzer (the bigest Rams apologist out there). They should've treated like an injury rather than a guy that is a little hurt.

Haslett, is totally pissed that SJax didn go after promising that he would. He totally got blindsided out there with SJax not playing and injuries to Pittman and Minor.

That being said, without Jackson, teams just give us the run and take away the pass. Pittman looks great because they just let us run...The team isn't that good with Jackson on the team. They are horrendous without him. Can't keep the other Offense off the field and the suspect D gets torched. Now with Bartell out for seemingly the season, the team will never have a running game because they won't be able to stay in games....

 

[The Moz]

I think he looks at Portis and goes this week -- If he performs he plays the rest of the season -- If not they shut him down.

 

[glumpy]

All this makes a whole lot of sense. I wonder just how much responsibility Hazlett is taking for his miscall which got Jackson injured in the first place?

I hope he comes back and performs well; just traded him away last week in a deal that was good for both of us--if he gets back on the field.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I have never heard of a thigh bruise keeping a player out a month! Guy has already had 2 MRI's if it was something more serious would we already know about it?

Damn I am 9-2 and really need Sjax for my title run - If he is practicing this week I like his chances thorughout - If he sits this week as well - I am 50% away from stickign a fork in rest of the season.

I'm sure he wasn't aware of that or he'd probably play through it.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

I don't even know how you could trade him now, he hasn't played in a month, so you won't get anything out of him, but yet if he does come back he's got a cake schedule. It's no win situation.

I may try to move him for a WR but seriously doubt anyone wants him.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I grew up in St. Louis and am a huge Rams fan, so I've been following this situation from afar. I can't speak to what is being said locally in St. Louis (although I know everyone is ripping him in local message boards I visit too, in the same vain as a lot of this people in this thread saying he's not tough), but I can give you my read on the situation from following it over the past few weeks. Going back to the Week 9 game against Arizona, there was great hope around the Rams believe it or not. Two big wins against the Redskins and Cowboys and a respectable showing against New England even without him had people back to being optimistic about the team. If the Rams win that game, everyone was saying, they actually had a shot to win the division. So Jackson tells Haslett he can play, recognizing it's a huge game. He goes out to the huddle, hears the play call is a run to the outside with a cut, and pulls himself out of the game, saying the can't operate that play. Haslett is stunned at this. Pittman goes in, pulls his hamstring on that play. So now Haslett has Jackson telling him that he needs to be limited, and Pittman with a tweaked hamstring. Travis Minor, the only other active RB, gets a concussion on special teams. Pittman ends up gutting it out and performs horribly, but the Rams had no other option, and the Rams get CREAMED by the Cardinals. Haslett is fuming.And Haslett is still pissed at Jackson for this. That's why he puts down the ultimatum that he's got to go through a full practice and show no limitations before he can play. The following week, Jackson barely even sniffs the practice field. This week, Jackson wants to be a warrior, goes through practice on Wednesday harder than he has since the injury. Ends up flaring up on him again on Thursday. As the Rams go to SF, Jackson decides he needs to see a specialist. He's saying publicly that he wants to play "hurt" but he's now concerned that he's "injured." But the two MRIs he has just so swelling.In my opinion, I think Haslett is still carrying a grudge here for Jackson pulling himself out of the first play of that huge Arizona game a couple weeks ago. Jackson knows this, but also knows something's not right, regardless of what the MRIs he had already say. My understanding (I could be wrong) is that it was Jackson's call to go see the specialist this weekend, not the Rams, because S-Jax wants to know what's up, and be able to go back to Haslett to say - "see, I told you this was worse than you thought."Either way, I think S-Jax has a long way to go before Haslett wants to throw him out there again. On the flip side, Pittman comes off that hamstring injury against the Cardinals and ends up putting in the "full" practice on the Friday of the Jets game. He ends up starting that one over Darby, although the Rams were never in that game even a little bit. Haslett respects that Pittman came back so quickly from that injury but is disappointed in how he did, but gave him his full support this week going into the Niners game, but saying he needed to step it up. And even though the Rams got creamed again, Pittman put in a more than respectable effort this weekend, although the game got way out of hand pretty quickly.So my opinion on this as a Rams fan and an interested fantasy owner - I think it's a longshot Steven Jackson makes much more of an impact this year unless he completely heals, and quick. Full practices are the key thing to look for here, and I think Haslett's going to make sure he can practice almost all week before he lets himself get burned by Jackson again.

Seems like this would be a tough assessment to beat.So, bottom line is, can't cut him, can't play him, but don't be surprised if he never shows again. And yes for one brief shining moment a few weeks ago all of the Rams almost looked like good plays again, and then no SJax, no resurgence. Really too bad.I think his injury needs to be called something else at this point besides a strained quad, or whatever, now. He has something, not sure what. Haslett's stubborn too, I wouldn't put it past him to shelve Jackson until he absolutely 100% proves he can practice fully all week, who knows what that will take from a guy who didn't even fly with the team. - A little history with Haslett, something he mentioned when he first took the Rams job - and he said it was the biggest mistake he ever made as a head coach (6 years after the fact); when he was coaching the Saints maybe 2002 or so the team was in prime playoff position. Starting QB Brooks was hurt but told Haslett and the whole world he was okay and able to play. The whole world could see he was not, but not Haslett he stuck with his guy. Meanwhile every fan and sportswriter to the last man was screaming for Haslett to play the backup, a guy named Jake Delhomme. Well, Haslett lashed himself to Brooks, right down to the very last minute of the very last game as Brooks literally almost single-handedly threw the season away, and ultimately maybe Haslett's job. Delhomme left the next year and Haslett and the team never recovered, he lost the fans and the players alike on that decision.

 

[Sake-Bombers]

Seems like this would be a tough assessment to beat.So, bottom line is, can't cut him, can't play him, but don't be surprised if he never shows again. And yes for one brief shining moment a few weeks ago all of the Rams almost looked like good plays again, and then no SJax, no resurgence. Really too bad.I think his injury needs to be called something else at this point besides a strained quad, or whatever, now. He has something, not sure what. Haslett's stubborn too, I wouldn't put it past him to shelve Jackson until he absolutely 100% proves he can practice fully all week, who knows what that will take from a guy who didn't even fly with the team. - A little history with Haslett, something he mentioned when he first took the Rams job - and he said it was the biggest mistake he ever made as a head coach (6 years after the fact); when he was coaching the Saints maybe 2002 or so the team was in prime playoff position. Starting QB Brooks was hurt but told Haslett and the whole world he was okay and able to play. The whole world could see he was not, but not Haslett he stuck with his guy. Meanwhile every fan and sportswriter to the last man was screaming for Haslett to play the backup, a guy named Jake Delhomme. Well, Haslett lashed himself to Brooks, right down to the very last minute of the very last game as Brooks literally almost single-handedly threw the season away, and ultimately maybe Haslett's job. Delhomme left the next year and Haslett and the team never recovered, he lost the fans and the players alike on that decision.

I hadn't heard Haslett say that, but that certainly seems to color this situation even more against Jackson. Either the specialist says he's just "hurt" but he still has to earn Haslett's trust by putting in full practices even though it still feels wrong to him, or he comes back as "injured" and is shut down for the season.Thanks TheFanatic for confirming my perspective even though it's from a couple thousand miles away. I'm sure Balzer is especially busy right now - the Rams have lots they need to apologize for.

 

[two_dollars]

He seems like a little bit of a hypochondriac.. if they let him get his way I'm betting you can expect this through his career. Everyone is hurt at some point during the season. It's football.

 

[duece2626]

Steven Jackson (quadriceps) has been ruled out for Week 12.

It's a bad sign the Rams did this so early. Jackson visited a specialist over the weekend who discovered "a little bit of blood in (the thigh)," coach Jim Haslett said. "They feel he should be out this week, and rest him, and see what happens next week." Antonio Pittman will start in an unpredictable matchup vs. Chicago. S-Jax owners can't be expecting production soon. Nov. 17 - 4:51 pm et

Source: Belleville News-Democrat

 

[Kyzersosik]

stl is a mess, haslett gone, sjax got his money. run your team as if he`s done for the year that way if you get ANY production out of him consider it a bonus.

 

[TheFanatic]

Seems like this would be a tough assessment to beat.

So, bottom line is, can't cut him, can't play him, but don't be surprised if he never shows again. And yes for one brief shining moment a few weeks ago all of the Rams almost looked like good plays again, and then no SJax, no resurgence. Really too bad.

I think his injury needs to be called something else at this point besides a strained quad, or whatever, now. He has something, not sure what. Haslett's stubborn too, I wouldn't put it past him to shelve Jackson until he absolutely 100% proves he can practice fully all week, who knows what that will take from a guy who didn't even fly with the team. - A little history with Haslett, something he mentioned when he first took the Rams job - and he said it was the biggest mistake he ever made as a head coach (6 years after the fact); when he was coaching the Saints maybe 2002 or so the team was in prime playoff position. Starting QB Brooks was hurt but told Haslett and the whole world he was okay and able to play. The whole world could see he was not, but not Haslett he stuck with his guy. Meanwhile every fan and sportswriter to the last man was screaming for Haslett to play the backup, a guy named Jake Delhomme. Well, Haslett lashed himself to Brooks, right down to the very last minute of the very last game as Brooks literally almost single-handedly threw the season away, and ultimately maybe Haslett's job. Delhomme left the next year and Haslett and the team never recovered, he lost the fans and the players alike on that decision.

I hadn't heard Haslett say that, but that certainly seems to color this situation even more against Jackson. Either the specialist says he's just "hurt" but he still has to earn Haslett's trust by putting in full practices even though it still feels wrong to him, or he comes back as "injured" and is shut down for the season.Thanks TheFanatic for confirming my perspective even though it's from a couple thousand miles away. I'm sure Balzer is especially busy right now - the Rams have lots they need to apologize for.

Bartell gone, Pace having an MRI, nothing to play for. Shut him down....MAke him watch. Maybe that will light a fire under him....

 

[CMU37484]

I grew up in St. Louis and am a huge Rams fan, so I've been following this situation from afar. I can't speak to what is being said locally in St. Louis (although I know everyone is ripping him in local message boards I visit too, in the same vain as a lot of this people in this thread saying he's not tough), but I can give you my read on the situation from following it over the past few weeks. Going back to the Week 9 game against Arizona, there was great hope around the Rams believe it or not. Two big wins against the Redskins and Cowboys and a respectable showing against New England even without him had people back to being optimistic about the team. If the Rams win that game, everyone was saying, they actually had a shot to win the division. So Jackson tells Haslett he can play, recognizing it's a huge game. He goes out to the huddle, hears the play call is a run to the outside with a cut, and pulls himself out of the game, saying the can't operate that play. Haslett is stunned at this. Pittman goes in, pulls his hamstring on that play. So now Haslett has Jackson telling him that he needs to be limited, and Pittman with a tweaked hamstring. Travis Minor, the only other active RB, gets a concussion on special teams. Pittman ends up gutting it out and performs horribly, but the Rams had no other option, and the Rams get CREAMED by the Cardinals. Haslett is fuming.And Haslett is still pissed at Jackson for this. That's why he puts down the ultimatum that he's got to go through a full practice and show no limitations before he can play. The following week, Jackson barely even sniffs the practice field. This week, Jackson wants to be a warrior, goes through practice on Wednesday harder than he has since the injury. Ends up flaring up on him again on Thursday. As the Rams go to SF, Jackson decides he needs to see a specialist. He's saying publicly that he wants to play "hurt" but he's now concerned that he's "injured." But the two MRIs he has just so swelling.In my opinion, I think Haslett is still carrying a grudge here for Jackson pulling himself out of the first play of that huge Arizona game a couple weeks ago. Jackson knows this, but also knows something's not right, regardless of what the MRIs he had already say. My understanding (I could be wrong) is that it was Jackson's call to go see the specialist this weekend, not the Rams, because S-Jax wants to know what's up, and be able to go back to Haslett to say - "see, I told you this was worse than you thought."Either way, I think S-Jax has a long way to go before Haslett wants to throw him out there again. On the flip side, Pittman comes off that hamstring injury against the Cardinals and ends up putting in the "full" practice on the Friday of the Jets game. He ends up starting that one over Darby, although the Rams were never in that game even a little bit. Haslett respects that Pittman came back so quickly from that injury but is disappointed in how he did, but gave him his full support this week going into the Niners game, but saying he needed to step it up. And even though the Rams got creamed again, Pittman put in a more than respectable effort this weekend, although the game got way out of hand pretty quickly.So my opinion on this as a Rams fan and an interested fantasy owner - I think it's a longshot Steven Jackson makes much more of an impact this year unless he completely heals, and quick. Full practices are the key thing to look for here, and I think Haslett's going to make sure he can practice almost all week before he lets himself get burned by Jackson again.

Thanks for the info. He's on my shelf for now and I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a Week 14 return. I'm mpretty weak at RB .

 

[steviey]

Steven Jackson (quadriceps) has been ruled out for Week 12.It's a bad sign the Rams did this so early. Jackson visited a specialist over the weekend who discovered "a little bit of blood in (the thigh)," coach Jim Haslett said. "They feel he should be out this week, and rest him, and see what happens next week." Antonio Pittman will start in an unpredictable matchup vs. Chicago. S-Jax owners can't be expecting production soon. Nov. 17 - 4:51 pm etSource: Belleville News-Democrat

 

[St. Louis Bob]

BOATLOADS!!

 

[QUEZILLA]

He seems like a little bit of a hypochondriac.. if they let him get his way I'm betting you can expect this through his career. Everyone is hurt at some point during the season. It's football.

He would probably be playing if it were for a team that was competing to go to the playoffs.

 

[AnonymousBob]

Maybe I shouldn't have traded away Grant for the guy.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

wow. this is the most frustrating thing I've been through in the last 10 yrs of fantasy football. I've never had a guy just tank it like this on such a seemingly minute injury.

never see my team again, he won't.

 

[footballnerd]

Maybe I shouldn't have traded away Grant for the guy.

Traded Slaton for him last week, since he was on my bench.

 

[supermark_28]

OP, when you asy long term, do you mean long term THIS year, or keeper/dynasty? In keeper/dynasty, he's a great Buy Low IMO.

This is what I'm most interested to hear some more feedback on. I have him in a 2 Keeper league and I'm wonderingdo you deal him now to get some help? or do you just hold tight,hope he heals and start again next year? St Louis is a complete and utter mess and I honestly don't know what can change between now and next year.

 

[glvsav37]

guy won me a championship 2 years ago on that OT touchdown. So I have a small place in my heart for SJax. This year however, I was killing the league before the injury and now this week, I lost first place. No go this week is gonna hurt again for sure and for the last 5 weeks he is quickly eating through that small pocket of heart I have left for him.

common fella...man up!!!!!

 

[AnonymousBob]

He doesn't have any major injury? Just some blood in the hamstring?

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Any word on his availability this week? I have a feeling he's done for the year...pure speculation on my part. Just don't see any incentive for him to come back, besides trying to win over some fans.

 

[Sake-Bombers]

Still waiting to see what happened this weekend. As of Friday, reports were that he was going to test it out on Saturday and see how it felt on Sunday:

http://bellevillenewsdemocrat.typepad.com/...n-saturday.html

Steven Jackson will test out his injured thigh on Saturday

Running back Steven Jackson said Thursday that he was going to attempt to run full speed on Saturday.

“I feel really good,’’ said Jackson, who already has been ruled as out for the Chicago Bears this Sunday. “Not traveling with the team (last Sunday at San Francisco) and being able to stay back and rehab, even up to today, has really helped the leg calm down a lot. It feels really good, so from my understanding we're going to try run Saturday, try to get a good, tough workout in, and then back off on Sunday and see how it reacts. That’s the game plan as of now.’’

Jackson said he hoped to be able practice next week. That means there is a chance he could play in the Ram' game against Miami on Nov. 30, but he was making no promises.

“My goal right now is just to be able to get back on the field and go from there,’’ Jackson said. “(I’m) staying with game plans, preparing as if playing. Mentally, I’m still sharp. I just want to get out there, get in a full week of practice for Coach (Jim) Haslett and go from there in the last five games.’’

Jackson got a second opinoin on his injured thigh muscle last weekend, and he said it showed that the injury had gotten worse since he was initially hurt on Oct. 19 against Dallas.

“It’s just more severe than the Dallas game,’’ Jackson said. “They're led to believe it happened in the Arizona game (Nov. 2), and it’s pretty much why I took the step backwards, trying to go out there a week early probably.’’

Jackson will be missing his fourth game in five weeks on Sunday. He said the whole experience has taught him not to rush back from an injury before he’s ready.

“If anything I’ve learned from this injury, it’s when I feel good, maybe I should give it another day or two,’’ Jackson said.

 

[CrazyHorse1581]

This guy reminds me of Ahman Green back in his prime. An absolute beast when healthy, but always hampered by odd injuries. Remember when Green missed all that time due to a quad strain? Very similar situation. Expected to only miss a week and then 4 weeks later still not right.

 

[Sake-Bombers]

Looks like he has responded well to practicing on Saturday and today. Wednesday will be the next test. Per the conversation above, Haslett still seems to be adopting the "Show Me" attitude.

http://bellevillenewsdemocrat.typepad.com/...in-the-air.html

-- Running back Steven Jackson (thigh) was able to run during workouts on Saturday and Monday, and Haslett was optimistic that he would able to participate in practice on Wednesday.

“I’m optimistic, but I’m not really sure what that means because we’ve said that for the last three or four weeks, but he did look good Saturday and today running,’’ Haslett said.

 

[thatguythere]

guy won me a championship 2 years ago on that OT touchdown. So I have a small place in my heart for SJax. This year however, I was killing the league before the injury and now this week, I lost first place. No go this week is gonna hurt again for sure and for the last 5 weeks he is quickly eating through that small pocket of heart I have left for him.

common fella...man up!!!!!

Yep had it to 8-2 and the loss of Bush, Jackson, and now Jacobs is making things rather difficult. Now Warner has decided to hand it off instead of throwing TD's so I have that going for me too...which isn't nice. Hello 8-4. I'm hoping the somewhat positive news holds out all week and he can make it back at least by wk 14.