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If you are dumb enough to shoot yourself in the leg, you deserve to be mocked.
Yes you have missed something. Don't feel bad.I must have missed something, I thought I saw a 15 yard unsportmanlike behavior call.no. it wasn't.This was more than just showboating.+1Besides after every. single. play. of the game some clown is showboating. This is today's NFL.dont understand why this is so controversial
Are you "Stevie's" girlfriend? Jeeze, I thought this was a thread to discuss what he did. Showboating isn't today's NFL. Today's NFL is professional football with some people who celebrate plays they make. When celebrating plays crosses the line into unsportsmanlike conduct, the person responsible is an idiot, who may or may not also be a selfish clown.I used to like Steve Johnson. I've had him on three teams since week two of last year, so I've seen him play quite a bit. However, once he started opening his mouth, I realized he's a tool. No big deal, it's just football and has no impact on my life. He has a lot of talent but he doesn't do his team or himself any favors when he ventures outside of the business of making plays.Stevie sleep with your girlfriend or something? Jeeze, you made your opinion known.. Was just a TD dance. Players mock players all the time, showboating is today's NFL..This was more than just showboating.+1Besides after every. single. play. of the game some clown is showboating. This is today's NFL.dont understand why this is so controversial
Exactly. The outrage in here against Johnson is priceless.If you are dumb enough to shoot yourself in the leg, you deserve to be mocked.
ToucheIf you are dumb enough to shoot yourself in the leg, you deserve to be mocked.
So, now when players make fun of other players, or events during a TD celebration, their idiots.. Better send out a memo.. Stevie has been victimized on this one, because I've seen far worse without even the mention of a penalty.. Ridiculous call, and your ridiculous conclusions = a ridiculous thread...Are you "Stevie's" girlfriend? Jeeze, I thought this was a thread to discuss what he did. Showboating isn't today's NFL. Today's NFL is professional football with some people who celebrate plays they make. When celebrating plays crosses the line into unsportsmanlike conduct, the person responsible is an idiot, who may or may not also be a selfish clown.I used to like Steve Johnson. I've had him on three teams since week two of last year, so I've seen him play quite a bit. However, once he started opening his mouth, I realized he's a tool. No big deal, it's just football and has no impact on my life. He has a lot of talent but he doesn't do his team or himself any favors when he ventures outside of the business of making plays.Stevie sleep with your girlfriend or something? Jeeze, you made your opinion known.. Was just a TD dance. Players mock players all the time, showboating is today's NFL..This was more than just showboating.+1Besides after every. single. play. of the game some clown is showboating. This is today's NFL.dont understand why this is so controversial
what was with the plane crash at the end? I hope that wasn't a 9/11 thing.
Which matters to... who?When celebrating plays crosses the line into unsportsmanlike conduct, the person responsible is an idiot, who may or may not also be a selfish clown.
Duh! The Jets! I'm a moron!what was with the plane crash at the end? I hope that wasn't a 9/11 thing.![]()
Sigh.Who cares.Didnt see this posted yet.
TD celebration mockery
Thoughts?
Inappropriate but funny or just a low blow?
It was mocking the other Jets WR, Holmes. Who did it later when he scored. I'm pretty shocked that the Jets D didn't do it when he dropped the game winner, or at least after the game ended. I'm not outraged about the celebration, though it was a little classless (with the caveat that yes, Burress was an idiot of a different scale in the first place). But the fact that this little turd cost his team with selfish antics that can't be chalked up to heat-of-the-moment mistakes. He obviously had it planned ahead, getting both the WRs in one swoop. He finally shows up (on my bench of course) and then shoots his team in the foot in addition to dropping a TD. What a choad.what was with the plane crash at the end? I hope that wasn't a 9/11 thing.
And that's how I like my irony, my friend.It was mocking the other Jets WR, Holmes. Who did it later when he scored. I'm pretty shocked that the Jets D didn't do it when he dropped the game winner, or at least after the game ended. I'm not outraged about the celebration, though it was a little classless (with the caveat that yes, Burress was an idiot of a different scale in the first place). But the fact that this little turd cost his team with selfish antics that can't be chalked up to heat-of-the-moment mistakes. He obviously had it planned ahead, getting both the WRs in one swoop. He finally shows up (on my bench of course) and then shoots his team in the foot in addition to dropping a TD. What a choad.what was with the plane crash at the end? I hope that wasn't a 9/11 thing.
Fox News'ers need something to ##### about.He didn't use any props, he didn't do anything profane, he didn't stomp on anyone, it was funny. What's the big effin deal?![]()
Ok. Then bench him. Trade him. Drop him. He sucks. Whatever you want to hear.'gradin123 said:He is on pace for like 900 yards. He hasn't had a 100 yard game yet this season. He has had quite a few TD's which is the only thing that has saved him from being a bust. In his last 8 games he has 378 yards and 3 TD's including today.'mjr said:He was battling an injury, but I would say yes. Including those 2 weeks. Who do you have on your roster who scores big every week in every game all year long?'gradin123 said:LOL. Like that the 2 previous weeks where he combined for 24 yards.'mjr said:Agreed. This guy just proved he's an every week start no matter the match up.'zandbak said:Whats funnier are people that somehow blame a player for losing a game when that player went 8/75/1 vs the best cornerback in football.'ThePittbully said:I don't know what's funnier, his TD celebration or his complete inability to catch the ball when it matters most
Don't worry about it. I thought you were making a joke anyway. Now give them kids a smack in the back of the head and tell em to bring you a beer.'HF21 said:Duh! The Jets! I'm a moron!'phillybirds said:'HF21 said:what was with the plane crash at the end? I hope that wasn't a 9/11 thing.![]()
It's been a long day. I've been hanging Christmas lights, untangling wires, climbing ladders, yelling at the kids when they mess with the decorations, etc...
Whom. And I imagine if you asked the Bills coaching staff, they'd probably tell you that it matters to the Bills.'zandbak said:Which matters to... who?'Apple Jack said:When celebrating plays crosses the line into unsportsmanlike conduct, the person responsible is an idiot, who may or may not also be a selfish clown.
That's great and all but when it was crunch time he couldn't get it done. He had two passes on that final drive that hit him in his hands that he failed to bring in. One where he was wide open and Fitzpatrick hit him in stride. 8/75 is great, but I bet Bills fans would have preferred a win'zandbak said:Whats funnier are people that somehow blame a player for losing a game when that player went 8/75/1 vs the best cornerback in football.'ThePittbully said:I don't know what's funnier, his TD celebration or his complete inability to catch the ball when it matters most
That's exhibit A then of why TD dances are stupid. If that's one of the funniest, just get rid of them. I just don't understand why elite athletes who just outplayed other elite athletes feel the need to do some stupid dance or rehearsed motion. The play they just made is 87000 times more interesting and entertaining than whatever moronic nonsense they think makes them look cool. What they should do is outlaw individual celebrations (other than immediate reaction types like spikes, leaps, screams etc) and throw a flag if there's some kind of dance or rehearsed celebration with less than 5 people involved, 1 of which must be a lineman. Otherwise, I could really care less about the millionaire with the maturity of a 3rd grader trying to get the adults at the big table to look at him.Offended? Give me a break. One of the funniest TD dances ever.
Which goes to show how stupid it was of him. Not only did they lose largely because of it but that's what people are going to talk about, not his game.Lost in the shuffle is the fact that this guy pretty much owned Revis today!
wat?they lost the game "largely because" of a TD celebration?Which goes to show how stupid it was of him. Not only did they lose largely because of it but that's what people are going to talk about, not his game.Lost in the shuffle is the fact that this guy pretty much owned Revis today!
Sports are entertainment. I couldn't care less who won that specific game. I found it funny and I'm sure players around the league were dying.I could see the Bills fanbase thinking it was ill-timed but that doesn't mean squat to me.That's exhibit A then of why TD dances are stupid. If that's one of the funniest, just get rid of them. I just don't understand why elite athletes who just outplayed other elite athletes feel the need to do some stupid dance or rehearsed motion. The play they just made is 87000 times more interesting and entertaining than whatever moronic nonsense they think makes them look cool. What they should do is outlaw individual celebrations (other than immediate reaction types like spikes, leaps, screams etc) and throw a flag if there's some kind of dance or rehearsed celebration with less than 5 people involved, 1 of which must be a lineman. Otherwise, I could really care less about the millionaire with the maturity of a 3rd grader trying to get the adults at the big table to look at him.Offended? Give me a break. One of the funniest TD dances ever.
Because of the penalty on an excessive celebration.wat?they lost the game "largely because" of a TD celebration?Which goes to show how stupid it was of him. Not only did they lose largely because of it but that's what people are going to talk about, not his game.Lost in the shuffle is the fact that this guy pretty much owned Revis today!
One day, I hope to be as cool as you are. I'm even going to give up using the search function on my cable box to cut down the time it takes me to find a game on TV.Sports are entertainment. I couldn't care less who won that specific game. I found it funny and I'm sure players around the league were dying.I could see the Bills fanbase thinking it was ill-timed but that doesn't mean squat to me.That's exhibit A then of why TD dances are stupid. If that's one of the funniest, just get rid of them. I just don't understand why elite athletes who just outplayed other elite athletes feel the need to do some stupid dance or rehearsed motion. The play they just made is 87000 times more interesting and entertaining than whatever moronic nonsense they think makes them look cool. What they should do is outlaw individual celebrations (other than immediate reaction types like spikes, leaps, screams etc) and throw a flag if there's some kind of dance or rehearsed celebration with less than 5 people involved, 1 of which must be a lineman. Otherwise, I could really care less about the millionaire with the maturity of a 3rd grader trying to get the adults at the big table to look at him.Offended? Give me a break. One of the funniest TD dances ever.
wat?they lost the game "largely because" of a TD celebration?Which goes to show how stupid it was of him. Not only did they lose largely because of it but that's what people are going to talk about, not his game.Lost in the shuffle is the fact that this guy pretty much owned Revis today!
That's what he himself said.wat?they lost the game "largely because" of a TD celebration?Which goes to show how stupid it was of him. Not only did they lose largely because of it but that's what people are going to talk about, not his game.Lost in the shuffle is the fact that this guy pretty much owned Revis today!The lashing out is anger at "thuggish behavior", whatever that is, being disguised as claims that he cost his team the game, which is absurd.
When players spend too much time with the "look at me" BS, it takes away from the intensity and focus they give to the task at hand. It is dissipating to performance, and only idiots partake. Those that say football is about entertainment...well...maybe Stevie should be thinking about his future on Broadway.So yes, there is a good chance that his buffoonery set up that special moment when his lack of focus prevented him from winning the game. On THREE plays.wat?they lost the game "largely because" of a TD celebration?Which goes to show how stupid it was of him. Not only did they lose largely because of it but that's what people are going to talk about, not his game.Lost in the shuffle is the fact that this guy pretty much owned Revis today!
Best post on this thread.next time Plaxico catches a TD, he should throw the ball up in the air and drop it to mock Stevie.
no they didn't.they lost the game because the defense can't stop anybody and the team is missing nearly half their starters.not sure why anyone would think they lost the game because of a pretty meaningless penalty in the 2nd quarter.Because of the penalty on an excessive celebration.wat?they lost the game "largely because" of a TD celebration?Which goes to show how stupid it was of him. Not only did they lose largely because of it but that's what people are going to talk about, not his game.Lost in the shuffle is the fact that this guy pretty much owned Revis today!
I guess he did, but it's still not accurate. He's taking the blame but the sieve pass defense deserves way more blame.That's what he himself said.![]()
http://blogs.buffalonews.com/billboard/2011/11/stevie-i-cost-our-team-a-win.htmlStevie: "I cost our team a win"
November 27, 2011 - 5:53 PM | 13 comments
EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Stevie Johnson said it didn't bring back memories of the Pittsburgh loss a year ago in Buffalo. But almost a year to the day (it was last Nov. 28) after he dropped a certain touchdown pass in overtime against the Steelers, the Bills' top wide receiver found himself in front of the media Sunday afternoon, taking the blame for a devastating loss.
Johnson dropped a potential TD pass at the Jets' 20-yard line with 35 seconds left in a 28-24 loss at MetLife Stadium. Late in the first half, he had been penalized for excessive celebration after a 5-yard touchdown catch. The Bills botched a squib kick from their 20 after the call, allowing the Jets to score a quick TD to tie the score at 14-14 just before halftime.
The celebration involved Johnson pretending to shoot himself in the thigh -- an attempt to have fun at the expense of the Jets' Plaxico Burress, who served time in prison for shooting himself in a New York nightclub.
Johnson stood at his locker after the loss, with about two dozen cameramen and reporters crowded around him, and answered questions:
Do you regret the celebration and mocking out Plaxico?
"Yeah, most definitely," he said, "cause it hurt our team. I felt like I cost our team a win on that."
Was it rehearsed?
"It was just a bad decision."
I know it was a bad decision, but was it rehearsed?
"It was a bad decision, and it hurt our team. If it was rehearsed or not doesn't really matter. That's irrelevant."
Do you have something personal with Burress?
"No, not at all. It was just a bad decision I made and it cost our team seven points, basically. At the end of the day, it cost our team seven points and ...I'm going to have to apologize to everybody, talk to Coach. I can't be doing that. I got to be more mature about the situations."
Do you think it motivated the Jets?
"I don't think anybody needed motivation. We're all in the NFL. We're all professionals."
Did it bring back bad memorees of the Pittsburgh game?
"No, not at all. Pittsburgh is Pittsburgh. It's a whole new year. We're deep in the season. Ain't nobody worried about that right now."
Is it frustrating, having a good game against Revis and having to field questions about other things?
"Yeah. We lost, so this comes with it. If we won, I don't think it'd be the same situation. but we took the L and this is what you've got to go through."
What happened on the drop?
"My reactions were slow. It was there. I didn't react fast enough and, you know, I think it could have been a touchdown. It's tough. It's tough, because we battled. All the guys fought hard. The defense played like dogs. The offense played like dogs. I didn't make a play again."
Fitz moved you inside on that play, right? He said you don't practice it much.
"Yeah. We just drew it up in the huddle. It was there, and I just didn't make the play. Reaction was off."
You see Plaxico's one-handed catch?
"Yeah, of course. I'm watching the game, too. It was a good catch. He's a pro. He's been doing this. He's made catches like that in the Super Bowl. It doesn't surprise me. What was the point of that question?"
Would you approach Burress to apologize? You said the celebration was a mistake
"I said it was a mistake for our team. That's it. Anything else, it doesn't matter to me. All I'm worried about is the Buffalo Bills and my teammates. I don't worry about what's going on over there. That led to a touchdown for the Jets and it hurt us. I put that on me."
Chan says he has to talk to you about your decision-making. Does it frustrate you to be at that point at this stage of your career?
"We're human. You got to learn. When you stop learning, what's the point of living? I'm always learning from Coach, whether it be decision-making, blocking, running a hitch route. I have my ear to him all the time. That's my coach. I'm not going to take that in a negative way."
Was the celebration like a joke?
"No. Just having fun. That's it. Just having fun (laughs). It ended up being a penalty and a touchdown for the Jets. They got to 14,tied it up and we should have been up seven. But a stupid decision by me led to a win for the Jets and that's how I see it."
Do you worry about the team not being willing to invest in you as a franchise guy after a day like this?
"Am I worried about that? I'm not worried about that. I'm not even thinking about a contract, you feel me? I signed for four years, so I'm playing my four years out. I'm not thinking of signing an extension now or trying to get paid, you feel me? I'm trying to win games for the Bills. I'm not thinking about that."
Think you'll get fined?
"If I do, I do. If I don't, I don't. That doesn't matter to me. I'm just trying to win the game, and it didn't happen today. That's what I'm mad about. I'm not worried about a fine or anyhing else."
--- Jerry Sullivan
Every recap of the game I've seen said the Jets scored on the short field after the penalty and Johnson's post game interview where he said he cost his team the game being stupidno they didn't.they lost the game because the defense can't stop anybody and the team is missing nearly half their starters.not sure why anyone would think they lost the game because of a pretty meaningless penalty in the 2nd quarter.Because of the penalty on an excessive celebration.wat?they lost the game "largely because" of a TD celebration?Which goes to show how stupid it was of him. Not only did they lose largely because of it but that's what people are going to talk about, not his game.Lost in the shuffle is the fact that this guy pretty much owned Revis today!
b/c the kicker screwed up the kickoff. if everyone is going to focus on that play, he deserves the blame.the announcers thought it was an onside kick. you have the whole field and you blast it right into the nearest defender? awful.maybe the coordinator whose side of the ball gave up 4 passing TDs to Mark freaking Sanchez while getting 0 sacks and 1 QB hit all game should take some blame here.Every recap of the game I've seen said the Jets scored on the short field after the penalty and Johnson's post game interview where he said he cost his team the game being stupid
Any possibility that, like a long FG, he was kicking it a lower angle to get more distance on it? Either way, a guy being that cocky ought not drop the winning TD when he's wide open and gets a perfect pass in stride.b/c the kicker screwed up the kickoff. if everyone is going to focus on that play, he deserves the blame.the announcers thought it was an onside kick. you have the whole field and you blast it right into the nearest defender? awful.maybe the coordinator whose side of the ball gave up 4 passing TDs to Mark freaking Sanchez while getting 0 sacks and 1 QB hit all game should take some blame here.Every recap of the game I've seen said the Jets scored on the short field after the penalty and Johnson's post game interview where he said he cost his team the game being stupid
he had about a 5% chance of scoring on that play.Either way, a guy being that cocky ought not drop the winning TD when he's wide open and gets a perfect pass in stride.
I don't think outrage is the right word.some more Stevie plays in the game:2nd & 13: 8-yard catch1st & 20: 15-yard catch2nd & 15: 9-yard catch3rd & 6: 7-yard catch1st & goal: 5-yard touchdownAfter the botched kickoff, Marcell Dareus got a 15-yard personal foul called on him which gave the Jets 1st & 10 at the Bills 14-yard line. Where's the outrage on that one?Then the Bills get to 3rd & 10 from the 14 and Da'Norris Searcy covers the wrong guy, which leaves Plaxico wide open in the end zone for an easy touchdown.1st & 10: 8-yard catch1st & 10: 7-yard catch2nd & 21: 16-yard catchGuy was beating Revis all day. They wouldn't have even been in this game if it wasn't for the plays he kept making over and over again. Even if he doesn't drop that ball, they probably would have still lost the game.
I think he had quite a bit more of a chance than that. But even 5% is better than the 0% chance that dropping a perfect pass gave them. And even if it didn't score and he was down right where he caught it, it would've geometrically increased their chances of scoring.he had about a 5% chance of scoring on that play.Either way, a guy being that cocky ought not drop the winning TD when he's wide open and gets a perfect pass in stride.
obviously. it was a bad drop on a perfectly thrown ball.I see dropped passes in every single NFL game I watch. There were probably a half dozen other plays or more that had more to do with them losing the game.I think he had quite a bit more of a chance than that. But even 5% is better than the 0% chance that dropping a perfect pass gave them. And even if it didn't score and he was down right where he caught it, it would've geometrically increased their chances of scoring.he had about a 5% chance of scoring on that play.Either way, a guy being that cocky ought not drop the winning TD when he's wide open and gets a perfect pass in stride.
Give Stevie a call then and tell him not to worry about the drop because the game was already lost.obviously. it was a bad drop on a perfectly thrown ball.I see dropped passes in every single NFL game I watch. There were probably a half dozen other plays or more that had more to do with them losing the game.I think he had quite a bit more of a chance than that. But even 5% is better than the 0% chance that dropping a perfect pass gave them. And even if it didn't score and he was down right where he caught it, it would've geometrically increased their chances of scoring.he had about a 5% chance of scoring on that play.Either way, a guy being that cocky ought not drop the winning TD when he's wide open and gets a perfect pass in stride.
that's not what I'm saying.they still could have won the game, but he is not the reason they lost. simple as that.regardless, this is not a playoff team. awful defense and too many injuries. the loss could wind up helping them on draft day.Give Stevie a call then and tell him not to worry about the drop because the game was already lost.
Disagree, I think he could have scored or at least come very close to it. And the one he dropped in the endzone also hit him in the hands. He had to make an adjustment on the ball, but if it hits you in the hands that's a drop. "I PRAISE YOU 24/7!!!!!! AND THIS HOW YOU DO ME!!!!! YOU EXPECT ME TO LEARN FROM THIS??? HOW???!!! ILL NEVER FORGET THIS!! EVER!!! THX THO..."he had about a 5% chance of scoring on that play.Either way, a guy being that cocky ought not drop the winning TD when he's wide open and gets a perfect pass in stride.