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Stevie Johnson mocks Burress shooting himself (1 Viewer)

Either way, a guy being that cocky ought not drop the winning TD when he's wide open and gets a perfect pass in stride.
he had about a 5% chance of scoring on that play.
I think he had quite a bit more of a chance than that. But even 5% is better than the 0% chance that dropping a perfect pass gave them. And even if it didn't score and he was down right where he caught it, it would've geometrically increased their chances of scoring.
obviously. it was a bad drop on a perfectly thrown ball.I see dropped passes in every single NFL game I watch. There were probably a half dozen other plays or more that had more to do with them losing the game.
God loves Tim Tebow, and hates Steve Johnson. DUH!
 
Give Stevie a call then and tell him not to worry about the drop because the game was already lost.
that's not what I'm saying.they still could have won the game, but he is not the reason they lost. simple as that.

regardless, this is not a playoff team. awful defense and too many injuries. the loss could wind up helping them on draft day.
That's my only consolation after the Seattle game.
 
The dance was hilarious. Plex deserves to be mocked over and over and over.

The irony was better. If your going to run smack, you better be able to back it up on the field. And man, did Johnson suck at the end.

 
'zandbak said:
'Apple Jack said:
When celebrating plays crosses the line into unsportsmanlike conduct, the person responsible is an idiot, who may or may not also be a selfish clown.
Which matters to... who?
Whom. And I imagine if you asked the Bills coaching staff, they'd probably tell you that it matters to the Bills.
the ridiculous penalty matters.. I'm sure if you asked any couch or player in the league if that should have been a penalty, they'd tell you NO...
 
Lost in the shuffle is the fact that this guy pretty much owned Revis today!
Which goes to show how stupid it was of him. Not only did they lose largely because of it but that's what people are going to talk about, not his game.
They lost largely because of his TD dance?.. Not because of the kicker? Or was it the passes he couldn't bring in? Or was it that the Jets scored with 60 seconds left on the clock? Or was it a million other variables that made up the outcome of the game?...You guys make a big deal over nothing.. It shouldn't have been a penalty..
 
Lost in the shuffle is the fact that this guy pretty much owned Revis today!
Which goes to show how stupid it was of him. Not only did they lose largely because of it but that's what people are going to talk about, not his game.
They lost largely because of his TD dance?.. Not because of the kicker? Or was it the passes he couldn't bring in? Or was it that the Jets scored with 60 seconds left on the clock? Or was it a million other variables that made up the outcome of the game?...You guys make a big deal over nothing.. It shouldn't have been a penalty..
Or are all the shows talking about how his dance affected the game instead of how he beat Revis all day? Because they just teased the penalty on SNF coming up in the halftime show instead of how he played against Revis. I doubt it would've been a flag if he'd only done one of the two things. But by the time he went with the wings, he'd already had his free time. BTW, I asked my couch if it should be a penalty but I got no answer.
 
Every recap of the game I've seen said the Jets scored on the short field after the penalty and Johnson's post game interview where he said he cost his team the game being stupid
b/c the kicker screwed up the kickoff. if everyone is going to focus on that play, he deserves the blame.the announcers thought it was an onside kick. you have the whole field and you blast it right into the nearest defender? awful.maybe the coordinator whose side of the ball gave up 4 passing TDs to Mark freaking Sanchez while getting 0 sacks and 1 QB hit all game should take some blame here.
Any possibility that, like a long FG, he was kicking it a lower angle to get more distance on it? Either way, a guy being that cocky ought not drop the winning TD when he's wide open and gets a perfect pass in stride.
He never dropped the "game winning TD" on a "perfect pass"... You didn't watch the game obviously...
 
Every recap of the game I've seen said the Jets scored on the short field after the penalty and Johnson's post game interview where he said he cost his team the game being stupid
b/c the kicker screwed up the kickoff. if everyone is going to focus on that play, he deserves the blame.the announcers thought it was an onside kick. you have the whole field and you blast it right into the nearest defender? awful.maybe the coordinator whose side of the ball gave up 4 passing TDs to Mark freaking Sanchez while getting 0 sacks and 1 QB hit all game should take some blame here.
Any possibility that, like a long FG, he was kicking it a lower angle to get more distance on it? Either way, a guy being that cocky ought not drop the winning TD when he's wide open and gets a perfect pass in stride.
He never dropped the "game winning TD" on a "perfect pass"... You didn't watch the game obviously...
Let me ask my couch. Still no answer. However, I did watch the last few minutes of it and I saw him drop the perfect pass that looked like it very well could go for a TD.
 
this Bob Costas story is ridiculous too.

when you kick off from your own 20 yard line, it's not normal for the other team to start their drive at the opponents 36 yard line.

 
Lost in the shuffle is the fact that this guy pretty much owned Revis today!
Which goes to show how stupid it was of him. Not only did they lose largely because of it but that's what people are going to talk about, not his game.
They lost largely because of his TD dance?.. Not because of the kicker? Or was it the passes he couldn't bring in? Or was it that the Jets scored with 60 seconds left on the clock? Or was it a million other variables that made up the outcome of the game?...

You guys make a big deal over nothing.. It shouldn't have been a penalty..
Or are all the shows talking about how his dance affected the game instead of how he beat Revis all day? Because they just teased the penalty on SNF coming up in the halftime show instead of how he played against Revis. I doubt it would've been a flag if he'd only done one of the two things. But by the time he went with the wings, he'd already had his free time. BTW, I asked my couch if it should be a penalty but I got no answer.
LOL.. ok, you got me..The media is going to pick up on what makes good conversation, or a good story.. If the penalty wasn't so ridiculous, nobody would be talking about it. Because there were obviously bigger variables than that 15 yard penalty that cost them the game. And I'm sure you can admit that...

 
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Lost in the shuffle is the fact that this guy pretty much owned Revis today!
Which goes to show how stupid it was of him. Not only did they lose largely because of it but that's what people are going to talk about, not his game.
They lost largely because of his TD dance?.. Not because of the kicker? Or was it the passes he couldn't bring in? Or was it that the Jets scored with 60 seconds left on the clock? Or was it a million other variables that made up the outcome of the game?...

You guys make a big deal over nothing.. It shouldn't have been a penalty..
And BTW, he went to the ground in his celebration. That's a penalty no matter whether he did it right away or after a riverdance. You cannot go to the ground in a celebration. Period.And just like I said, that's what's dominating the coverage of his game today, not him beating Revis.

 
Who cares?

He celebrated. It was funny. He/the Bills were penalized for it (as they should have been given that this is a rule which has been in place for years).

That did not make the kicker botch the kickoff. That did not make Dareus take a 15-yard penalty. That did not make Searcy botch the coverage.

And all that TD did was let the Jets tie the game going into halftime.

They had a lead with just a couple minutes left in the game and could not protect it. The defense lost the game.

 
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Lost in the shuffle is the fact that this guy pretty much owned Revis today!
Which goes to show how stupid it was of him. Not only did they lose largely because of it but that's what people are going to talk about, not his game.
They lost largely because of his TD dance?.. Not because of the kicker? Or was it the passes he couldn't bring in? Or was it that the Jets scored with 60 seconds left on the clock? Or was it a million other variables that made up the outcome of the game?...

You guys make a big deal over nothing.. It shouldn't have been a penalty..
Or are all the shows talking about how his dance affected the game instead of how he beat Revis all day? Because they just teased the penalty on SNF coming up in the halftime show instead of how he played against Revis. I doubt it would've been a flag if he'd only done one of the two things. But by the time he went with the wings, he'd already had his free time. BTW, I asked my couch if it should be a penalty but I got no answer.
LOL.. ok, you got me..The media is going to pick up on what makes good conversation, or a good story.. If the penalty wasn't so ridiculous, nobody would be talking about it. Because there were obviously bigger variables than that 15 yard penalty that cost them the game. And I'm sure you can admit that...
The penalty was ridiculous. Johnson should know it's a penalty to go to the ground in a celebration. So, how many of those other variables were done on purpose, knowing it would be a penalty or by being too stupid to know it was a penalty? There's a difference between poor play, mistakes and getting beat vs getting a ridiculous penalty because you think you're hot #### when you're actually one of 53 on a team.

 
Who cares?

He celebrated. It was funny. He/the Bills were penalized for it.

That did not make the kicker botch the kickoff. That did not make Dareus take a 15-yard penalty. That did not make Searcy botch the coverage.

And all that TD did was let the Jets tie the game going into halftime.

They had a lead with just a couple minutes left in the game and could not protect it. The defense lost the game.
So far every major news outlet that's covered the game.
 
Costa's comment about "where was the I'm Bad dance" when he dropped the td pass was pretty funny.

Now it's just a bunch of "I'm Stupid" interviews for Johnson because he ran smack then sucked.

 
So far every major news outlet that's covered the game.
yeah. it's a really slow week and this is an easy story to focus on.still funny.I hate the grumps that keep trying to take the fun out of the league.I liked it when TO did it. I liked it when Ochocinco did it. And I like it when Stevie does it. I don't care about a 15-yard penalty on a kickoff.I respect the guys that don't celebrate as well. But, if someone is creative and funny or shows emotion while spiking the ball, nothing wrong with that.
 
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Lost in the shuffle is the fact that this guy pretty much owned Revis today!
Which goes to show how stupid it was of him. Not only did they lose largely because of it but that's what people are going to talk about, not his game.
They lost largely because of his TD dance?.. Not because of the kicker? Or was it the passes he couldn't bring in? Or was it that the Jets scored with 60 seconds left on the clock? Or was it a million other variables that made up the outcome of the game?...

You guys make a big deal over nothing.. It shouldn't have been a penalty..
Or are all the shows talking about how his dance affected the game instead of how he beat Revis all day? Because they just teased the penalty on SNF coming up in the halftime show instead of how he played against Revis. I doubt it would've been a flag if he'd only done one of the two things. But by the time he went with the wings, he'd already had his free time. BTW, I asked my couch if it should be a penalty but I got no answer.
LOL.. ok, you got me..The media is going to pick up on what makes good conversation, or a good story.. If the penalty wasn't so ridiculous, nobody would be talking about it. Because there were obviously bigger variables than that 15 yard penalty that cost them the game. And I'm sure you can admit that...
The penalty was ridiculous. Johnson should know it's a penalty to go to the ground in a celebration. So, how many of those other variables were done on purpose, knowing it would be a penalty or by being too stupid to know it was a penalty? There's a difference between poor play, mistakes and getting beat vs getting a ridiculous penalty because you think you're hot #### when you're actually one of 53 on a team.
The botched kick was the mistake that cost them the lead at half time.. And the defense... The 15 yard penalty is just convo for blowhards... Pretending to be disgusted or outrages.. SILLY...

 
'zandbak said:
'Apple Jack said:
When celebrating plays crosses the line into unsportsmanlike conduct, the person responsible is an idiot, who may or may not also be a selfish clown.
Which matters to... who?
Whom. And I imagine if you asked the Bills coaching staff, they'd probably tell you that it matters to the Bills.
the ridiculous penalty matters.. I'm sure if you asked any couch or player in the league if that should have been a penalty, they'd tell you NO...
You're asking the wrong question.
 
So far every major news outlet that's covered the game.
yeah. it's a really slow week and this is an easy story to focus on.still funny.

I hate the grumps that keep trying to take the fun out of the league.

I liked it when TO did it. I liked it when Ochocinco did it. And I like it when Stevie does it. I don't care about a 15-yard penalty on a kickoff.

I respect the guys that don't celebrate as well. But, if someone is creative and funny or shows emotion while spiking the ball, nothing wrong with that.
There's the difference between us. I don't think it's creative or funny, nor do I think outlawing it takes ANY fun out of the game. I wasn't kidding when I said they should have penalties for individual celebrations and not for team celebrations. But watching one guy, who happened to be the last person to touch the ball when a team got the ball into the endzone, do a stupid salsa or matador dance or any of the other moronic crap that 85 or TO or Steve Smith did doesn't add any fun to the game to me. Not even when Shaun Alexander did it. The bolded I 100% agree with.

eta: and yes, when Golden Tate did it for the Hawks today I hated it and we didn't score again in that loss. Tate's TD put the Hawks up by 10. It was a turning point, as was the Johnson penalty as was the Suh penalty. 100% causation? No, but odd that all 3 were turning points.

 
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Lost in the shuffle is the fact that this guy pretty much owned Revis today!
Which goes to show how stupid it was of him. Not only did they lose largely because of it but that's what people are going to talk about, not his game.
They lost largely because of his TD dance?.. Not because of the kicker? Or was it the passes he couldn't bring in? Or was it that the Jets scored with 60 seconds left on the clock? Or was it a million other variables that made up the outcome of the game?...

You guys make a big deal over nothing.. It shouldn't have been a penalty..
Or are all the shows talking about how his dance affected the game instead of how he beat Revis all day? Because they just teased the penalty on SNF coming up in the halftime show instead of how he played against Revis. I doubt it would've been a flag if he'd only done one of the two things. But by the time he went with the wings, he'd already had his free time. BTW, I asked my couch if it should be a penalty but I got no answer.
LOL.. ok, you got me..The media is going to pick up on what makes good conversation, or a good story.. If the penalty wasn't so ridiculous, nobody would be talking about it. Because there were obviously bigger variables than that 15 yard penalty that cost them the game. And I'm sure you can admit that...
The penalty was ridiculous. Johnson should know it's a penalty to go to the ground in a celebration. So, how many of those other variables were done on purpose, knowing it would be a penalty or by being too stupid to know it was a penalty? There's a difference between poor play, mistakes and getting beat vs getting a ridiculous penalty because you think you're hot #### when you're actually one of 53 on a team.
The botched kick was the mistake that cost them the lead at half time.. And the defense... The 15 yard penalty is just convo for blowhards... Pretending to be disgusted or outrages.. SILLY...
:lmao: Ok blowhard! I'll trie not to bee outrages anymoar
 
'zandbak said:
'Apple Jack said:
When celebrating plays crosses the line into unsportsmanlike conduct, the person responsible is an idiot, who may or may not also be a selfish clown.
Which matters to... who?
Whom. And I imagine if you asked the Bills coaching staff, they'd probably tell you that it matters to the Bills.
the ridiculous penalty matters.. I'm sure if you asked any couch or player in the league if that should have been a penalty, they'd tell you NO...
You're asking the wrong question.
If you ask any armchairs or NFL players if they want someone on their team to purposely get a 15 yard penalty in a tight game, I bet I know the answer.
 
So far every major news outlet that's covered the game.
yeah. it's a really slow week and this is an easy story to focus on.still funny.

I hate the grumps that keep trying to take the fun out of the league.

I liked it when TO did it. I liked it when Ochocinco did it. And I like it when Stevie does it. I don't care about a 15-yard penalty on a kickoff.

I respect the guys that don't celebrate as well. But, if someone is creative and funny or shows emotion while spiking the ball, nothing wrong with that.
There's the difference between us. I don't think it's creative or funny, nor do I think outlawing it takes ANY fun out of the game. I wasn't kidding when I said they should have penalties for individual celebrations and not for team celebrations. But watching one guy, who happened to be the last person to touch the ball when a team got the ball into the endzone, do a stupid salsa or matador dance or any of the other moronic crap that 85 or TO or Steve Smith did doesn't add any fun to the game to me. Not even when Shaun Alexander did it. The bolded I 100% agree with.
do you feel the same in other sports?soccer goal celebrations are awesome.

hockey goal celebrations aren't as choreographed generally but still enjoyable.

I don't really see what the harm is. I don't like seeing players celebrate every tackle or first down, but a touchdown is usually a pretty big play that doesn't happen to that player all that often.

 
So far every major news outlet that's covered the game.
yeah. it's a really slow week and this is an easy story to focus on.still funny.

I hate the grumps that keep trying to take the fun out of the league.

I liked it when TO did it. I liked it when Ochocinco did it. And I like it when Stevie does it. I don't care about a 15-yard penalty on a kickoff.

I respect the guys that don't celebrate as well. But, if someone is creative and funny or shows emotion while spiking the ball, nothing wrong with that.
There's the difference between us. I don't think it's creative or funny, nor do I think outlawing it takes ANY fun out of the game. I wasn't kidding when I said they should have penalties for individual celebrations and not for team celebrations. But watching one guy, who happened to be the last person to touch the ball when a team got the ball into the endzone, do a stupid salsa or matador dance or any of the other moronic crap that 85 or TO or Steve Smith did doesn't add any fun to the game to me. Not even when Shaun Alexander did it. The bolded I 100% agree with.
do you feel the same in other sports?soccer goal celebrations are awesome.

hockey goal celebrations aren't as choreographed generally but still enjoyable.

I don't really see what the harm is. I don't like seeing players celebrate every tackle or first down, but a touchdown is usually a pretty big play that doesn't happen to that player all that often.
Soccer ones are usually pretty stupid, especially when they run away from their teammates to do it. Sorry, a player taking off their shorts and putting them on their head adds nothing to my enjoyment of the game. Unless Alex Morgan does it.Hockey ones tend to be mostly spontaneous and rarely do they not all five gather in a celebratory huddle. I don't really think they're comparable for the most part.

eta: I edited above that Golden Tate did the same thing for the Seahawks today and it was a turning point in the game if you want to scroll up and see what I wrote about SJ, Tate and Suh.

And the harm comes when it's a penalty and you still do it whether because you're too dumb to know the rules or you don't care.

 
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And the harm comes when it's a penalty and you still do it whether because you're too dumb to know the rules or you don't care.
everybody knows the rules.I'd gladly kick off from the 20 for every TD scored on offense. easy tradeoff.
You'd spot a team 15 yards every time? I don't believe that for a second. Gonna lose a lot of games doing that if you're not the 85 Bears or 00 Ravens.
 
And the harm comes when it's a penalty and you still do it whether because you're too dumb to know the rules or you don't care.
everybody knows the rules.I'd gladly kick off from the 20 for every TD scored on offense. easy tradeoff.
You'd spot a team 15 yards every time? I don't believe that for a second. Gonna lose a lot of games doing that if you're not the 85 Bears or 00 Ravens.
sure.score a TD and kickoff from the 20 vs kick a FG and kickoff from the 35?easy decision.
 
And the harm comes when it's a penalty and you still do it whether because you're too dumb to know the rules or you don't care.
everybody knows the rules.I'd gladly kick off from the 20 for every TD scored on offense. easy tradeoff.
You'd spot a team 15 yards every time? I don't believe that for a second. Gonna lose a lot of games doing that if you're not the 85 Bears or 00 Ravens.
sure.score a TD and kickoff from the 20 vs kick a FG and kickoff from the 35?easy decision.
What does kicking a FG have to do with it? The celebration doesn't enable you to score a TD instead of a FG. It's completely independent from any game action, except to cost 15 yards.
 
What does kicking a FG have to do with it? The celebration doesn't enable you to score a TD instead of a FG. It's completely independent from any game action, except to cost 15 yards.
I know it doesn't. I'm just saying it's not nearly as big of a deal as it's made out to be. Scoring a TD vs a FG has a lot more added value than those 15 yards do. So, if they hypothetically had to kick off from the 20 everytime a TD is scored, it's still +EV over the alternative (kicking a FG and kicking off from the 35).Sure, it would be great if all players followed every rule and never took a penalty. That doesn't happen. I happen to think the penalty against excessive celebration on touchdowns is dumb. You don't. Not much point in arguing about it as it relates to this specific play.
 
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What does kicking a FG have to do with it? The celebration doesn't enable you to score a TD instead of a FG. It's completely independent from any game action, except to cost 15 yards.
I know it doesn't. I'm just saying it's not nearly as big of a deal as it's made out to be. Scoring a TD vs a FG has a lot more added value than those 15 yards do. So, if they hypothetically had to kick off from the 20 everytime a TD is scored, it's still +EV over the alternative (kicking a FG and kicking off from the 35).Sure, it would be great if all players followed every rule and never took a penalty. That doesn't happen. I happen to think the penalty against excessive celebration on touchdowns is dumb. You don't. Not much point in arguing about it as it relates to this specific play.
The talk about added value doesn't make sense. If you want to PI someone because you're beat and hope for a FG instead of a TD, then that makes sense. But the penalty vs a FG or TD is out of left field here.
 
The talk about added value doesn't make sense. If you want to PI someone because you're beat and hope for a FG instead of a TD, then that makes sense. But the penalty vs a FG or TD is out of left field here.
my initial comment said I'd gladly take the 15-yard penalty for a TD celebration. Because it means that the player scored a TD. Scoring TDs is hard and has a clear and strong correlation with winning games.Taking a 15-yard penalty on a kickoff may increase the chances of losing, but not by a significant amount.So, that's an easy tradeoff to take.Put another way: TD with no penalty is ideal (obviously) but scoring a TD with a penalty is still better than not scoring a TD.Scoring the TD is helping your team win more than taking the penalty is making your team lose. So, all things being equal, I'd rather take a player who scores TDs and takes a penalty for celebrating once in awhile vs a player who doesn't score TDs and doesn't celebrate ever.
 
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The talk about added value doesn't make sense. If you want to PI someone because you're beat and hope for a FG instead of a TD, then that makes sense. But the penalty vs a FG or TD is out of left field here.
my initial comment said I'd gladly take the 15-yard penalty for a TD celebration. Because it means that the player scored a TD. Scoring TDs is hard and has a clear and strong correlation with winning games.Taking a 15-yard penalty on a kickoff may increase the chances of losing, but not by a significant amount.So, that's an easy tradeoff to take.
I got that part, though I don't agree nor do I think 99% of coaches or players would. It was the tradeoff of a TD and kick from the 20 vs a FG and kick from the 35 that makes no sense. You could have the TD and kick from the 35 or a TD and kick from the 20. Which one seems like the only way to do it if you're trying to win a game?
 
Are we sure that for a player on a team where BILLS stands for "Boy I Love Losing Super-Bowls" that his intent was on mocking Buffalo? The "celebration" in question was a stupid thing to do - period.

Holy crap, isn't there anything else to discuss out of this game? Or the NFL in general other than this garbage? Seriously...

 
Are we sure that for a player on a team where BILLS stands for "Boy I Love Losing Super-Bowls" that his intent was on mocking Buffalo? The "celebration" in question was a stupid thing to do - period.

Holy crap, isn't there anything else to discuss out of this game? Or the NFL in general other than this garbage? Seriously...
Completely agree. If the Burress incident was a "no harm, no foul" type of event, then yes, go ahead and have some fun at his expense. But the dude went to prison for two years, he's got a family...Not cool.

What else would you expect from a classless pea-brain like Johnson though.

 
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next time Plaxico catches a TD, he should throw the ball up in the air and drop it to mock Stevie.
Best post on this thread.
Agreed. The shot in the leg does seem a little out of bounds to me for someone who, imo, served an excessive prison sentence out of stupidity when (unlike Vick), he wasn't trying to harm anyone. The plane crash I thought was pretty funny.Oddly enough, the latter was what drew the flag. The NFL really has some strangely arbitrary yet specific rules on what is excessive, including hitting the ground. The Jets were jumping around like they won the SB in Buffalo after scoring all their TD's on sketchy 40 yard PI calls, but I guess that's cool.Stop dropping F'ing GW TD's Stevie.
 
'Carolina Hustler said:
'gradin123 said:
'zandbak said:
'ThePittbully said:
I don't know what's funnier, his TD celebration or his complete inability to catch the ball when it matters most
Whats funnier are people that somehow blame a player for losing a game when that player went 8/75/1 vs the best cornerback in football.
Spoken like a fantasy owner. If you watched the game you'll see he dropped and easy,easy,easy,easy catch on a deep crossing route on the final drive. If he didn't score on that play he would have at least gone for like 40 yards and been down inside the 10. It was a drop as bad as the one he made against Pittsburgh last year. That bad. IT was blown coverage on the play and he was wide open.
Yea, because he's the only WR in the NFL to ever drop a pass..Whats your point.?.. #### happens.. He's still a great WR.. And not even close to the worst TD celebration.. Shouldn't have even been penalized..
He wasn't flagged for the plax mocking. He was flagged for 'going to the ground (crashinglike a wounded jet?) which is clearly a penalty.
 
'Apple Jack said:
'thehornet said:
'Apple Jack said:
'PewterFan said:
'shadyridr said:
dont understand why this is so controversial
+1Besides after every. single. play. of the game some clown is showboating. This is today's NFL.
This was more than just showboating.
no. it wasn't.
I must have missed something, I thought I saw a 15 yard unsportmanlike behavior call.
You just don't know the rules. Had he just done the Buress leg shot move he'd have been fine.
 
Every recap of the game I've seen said the Jets scored on the short field after the penalty and Johnson's post game interview where he said he cost his team the game being stupid
b/c the kicker screwed up the kickoff. if everyone is going to focus on that play, he deserves the blame.the announcers thought it was an onside kick. you have the whole field and you blast it right into the nearest defender? awful.maybe the coordinator whose side of the ball gave up 4 passing TDs to Mark freaking Sanchez while getting 0 sacks and 1 QB hit all game should take some blame here.
Any possibility that, like a long FG, he was kicking it a lower angle to get more distance on it? Either way, a guy being that cocky ought not drop the winning TD when he's wide open and gets a perfect pass in stride.
He never dropped the "game winning TD" on a "perfect pass"... You didn't watch the game obviously...
He could have easily scored on that pass that hit him square in the hands, would have only needed to make one more on the safety leonard. But I agree that was the only 'drop' on that last drive.
 
The only person who shpuld give a #### about his "celebration" is Burress himself. It was an attention seeking move. He sat up all week and put time and effort into that celebration...time and effort he should have spent practicing. He dropped 2 balls in the final minute on the final drive in the 4th qtr that hit him in the hands. doesnt matter if the ball was perfect or not,You play wr in the NFL and a ball hits u in the hands...u catch it.

Talented WR who's thirst for the spotlight drives his abilities,not a desire to be the best. DeSean Jackson has this same disease.

 
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Either way, a guy being that cocky ought not drop the winning TD when he's wide open and gets a perfect pass in stride.
he had about a 5% chance of scoring on that play.
I think he had quite a bit more of a chance than that. But even 5% is better than the 0% chance that dropping a perfect pass gave them. And even if it didn't score and he was down right where he caught it, it would've geometrically increased their chances of scoring.
So would about 50 different plays being made differently throughout the game. Your point?
 
Either way, a guy being that cocky ought not drop the winning TD when he's wide open and gets a perfect pass in stride.
he had about a 5% chance of scoring on that play.
Disagree, I think he could have scored or at least come very close to it. And the one he dropped in the endzone also hit him in the hands. He had to make an adjustment on the ball, but if it hits you in the hands that's a drop. "I PRAISE YOU 24/7!!!!!! AND THIS HOW YOU DO ME!!!!! YOU EXPECT ME TO LEARN FROM THIS??? HOW???!!! ILL NEVER FORGET THIS!! EVER!!! THX THO..."
Agreed. That ball hit him in the hands on the 25 yrd line...he had his man beat and had a S to beat for the score and the win and he had the angle . If he doesnt score he's dragged down from behind inside the 10. Guaranteed.
 
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If you don't think T.O. had a desire to be the best you're crazy
No, but I think some of "today's" young wannabe's may focus more on the "I love's me some me" crap that T.O. floated out there rather than the actual hard work that T.O. put in.D. Jackson made me laugh in that interview with Michael Irvin where he refers to himself as a superstar that's held to a different set of values.

Players become stars by consistently making plays. Stars become superstars by consistently making big plays at key moments. Dropping TD passes would not fall into either category. Just about anyone is capable of dropping passes.

 

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