Stewart or Slaton (1 Viewer)

[All Time Great]

Steve Slaton reminds me of Tiki. He's been traded twice in my league, once for great value, and once out of an owner's frustration. I have a hard time guaging his dynasty value, so i'm comparing him to a guy like Stewart that is behind Deangelo and one injury away from being a pure stud. Personally, I think Stewart has more talent, but Slaton may be in the better situation. Which guy would you rather have in a dynasty? I'd choose Stewart. Thoughts?

 

[comfortably numb]

Steve Slaton reminds me of Tiki. He's been traded twice in my league, once for great value, and once out of an owner's frustration. I have a hard time guaging his dynasty value, so i'm comparing him to a guy like Stewart that is behind Deangelo and one injury away from being a pure stud. Personally, I think Stewart has more talent, but Slaton may be in the better situation. Which guy would you rather have in a dynasty? I'd choose Stewart. Thoughts?

Stewart by a kilometer

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

JS will never make it threw a year w/o being injured.

 

[skiking08]

We really have to wait and see what Houston's intentions are with Slaton. If Moats continues to get the majority of the touches or they go out and sign LJ, I guess you give Stewart the nod. But Stewart is never going to be the bell cow in that offense and slaton has shown the ability to be a great fantasy player (he was a borderline first round pick this season). I'd go with Slaton as of right now.

 

[Redmen62]

It's pretty much a question of what phase your team is in. Like you, I think Stewart is the more talented back. But barring injury to Deangelo, Slaton should outscore Stewart for the rest of the year. So if you're in the midst of a win-now-at-all-costs championship run, you'd probably want Slaton. For 80% of teams though, I'd want Stewart. I think he has top-5 potential (I caught major flack in my dynasty league earlier this season when I traded Crabtree and Bradshaw for Stewart).

 

[Touchdown Syndrome]

Stewart, by a longshot.

 

[Prinefan]

Stewart, by a longshot.

This

 

[Fallerjw]

Stewart, by a longshot.

This

not even remotely close.

 

[GreatLakesMike]

Stewart, and it's not even close IMO. You just have to be patient. Slaton has talent, but it's not as an all purpose back.

 

[skiking08]

This is kind of shocking to me. Is this overreaction to the recent Slaton events or are we certain Slaton's career is over after 5 fumbles? Even if Slaton becomes a platoon back, he would still get the same amount of burn as Stewart. Plus, Slaton has already proven he can be an RB1 in fantasy football. In a PPR its still Slaton and its not even close. In a standard league its a conversation, but I don't see stewart ever getting more than 40% of the work in CAR (this is only DeAngelo's 4th year after all). From a scouting or combine perspective, there is no doubt that Stewart is a more prototypical RB, but for fantasy purposes I'd stick with Slaton.

Even with all the Slaton hate, what are your thoughts on his dynasty or keeper league value? Is he a buy low candidate?

 

[thehornet]

Stewart was a better dynasty option last year when Slaton was everyone's darling.

 

[skiking08]

Stewart was a better dynasty option last year when Slaton was everyone's darling.

I guess I just don't understand why. Stewart is probably more physically gifted than slaton, but he's clearly stuck behind DeAngelo and thats not changing. Slaton has no real competition unless they bring in an LJ or draft an RB high. Its not as if Slaton has proven to be a rookie fluke. He had close to 700 total yds and 6 TDs when he was "benched" not to mention the 32 rec for PPR purposes. I agree with Stewart being the more talented back, but scheme and opportunity are just as important for fantasy purposes.

 

[EBF]

Stewart was a better dynasty option last year when Slaton was everyone's darling.

I guess I just don't understand why. Stewart is probably more physically gifted than slaton, but he's clearly stuck behind DeAngelo and thats not changing. Slaton has no real competition unless they bring in an LJ or draft an RB high. Its not as if Slaton has proven to be a rookie fluke. He had close to 700 total yds and 6 TDs when he was "benched" not to mention the 32 rec for PPR purposes. I agree with Stewart being the more talented back, but scheme and opportunity are just as important for fantasy purposes.

You're placing way too much emphasis on short term situation. I wouldn't assume that Stewart will be a backup for the next few years or that Slaton will remain the undisputed starter (which he's not).

 

[skiking08]

Stewart was a better dynasty option last year when Slaton was everyone's darling.

I guess I just don't understand why. Stewart is probably more physically gifted than slaton, but he's clearly stuck behind DeAngelo and thats not changing. Slaton has no real competition unless they bring in an LJ or draft an RB high. Its not as if Slaton has proven to be a rookie fluke. He had close to 700 total yds and 6 TDs when he was "benched" not to mention the 32 rec for PPR purposes. I agree with Stewart being the more talented back, but scheme and opportunity are just as important for fantasy purposes.

You're placing way too much emphasis on short term situation. I wouldn't assume that Stewart will be a backup for the next few years or that Slaton will remain the undisputed starter (which he's not).

So you think its more likely that Stewart leapfrogs DeAngelo Williams--who is only in his 4th season by the way, its not like this is Thomas Jones we're talking about--than Steve Slaton leapfrogs Ryan Moats? If Houston goes out and drafts Dwyer or Spiller or Best, I might agree with you guys, but until that happens it seems clear to me that Slaton will have more opportunity to produce than Stewart for this season, next season, and the foreseeable future. And I'll say again that in PPR leagues its Slaton and not even close (thanks to 82 rec in his first 25 career games).

 

[EBF]

Stewart was a better dynasty option last year when Slaton was everyone's darling.

I guess I just don't understand why. Stewart is probably more physically gifted than slaton, but he's clearly stuck behind DeAngelo and thats not changing. Slaton has no real competition unless they bring in an LJ or draft an RB high. Its not as if Slaton has proven to be a rookie fluke. He had close to 700 total yds and 6 TDs when he was "benched" not to mention the 32 rec for PPR purposes. I agree with Stewart being the more talented back, but scheme and opportunity are just as important for fantasy purposes.

You're placing way too much emphasis on short term situation. I wouldn't assume that Stewart will be a backup for the next few years or that Slaton will remain the undisputed starter (which he's not).

So you think its more likely that Stewart leapfrogs DeAngelo Williams--who is only in his 4th season by the way, its not like this is Thomas Jones we're talking about--than Steve Slaton leapfrogs Ryan Moats? If Houston goes out and drafts Dwyer or Spiller or Best, I might agree with you guys, but until that happens it seems clear to me that Slaton will have more opportunity to produce than Stewart for this season, next season, and the foreseeable future. And I'll say again that in PPR leagues its Slaton and not even close (thanks to 82 rec in his first 25 career games).

Use your imagination.DWill was drafted in 2006. I doubt he has many years left on his rookie deal. He could walk in free agency or Carolina could trade him. The Panthers could also opt to trade Stewart for players/picks. They're a bad team in need of talent. None of these options are far-fetched. Slaton hasn't played well this season. The Texans have already shown a willingness to go with other options by starting Ryan Moats. Do you really think Slaton's job is secure? I'd say quite the opposite is true. The Texans will be looking to upgrade their RBs in the offseason if someone doesn't step up. You're looking almost entirely at today's situations and yesterday's stats. Those are largely irrelevant when you talk about dynasty values. Dynasty is about anticipating the future. I think Stewart is the superior talent and the much better long term investment.

 

[skiking08]

Stewart was a better dynasty option last year when Slaton was everyone's darling.

I guess I just don't understand why. Stewart is probably more physically gifted than slaton, but he's clearly stuck behind DeAngelo and thats not changing. Slaton has no real competition unless they bring in an LJ or draft an RB high. Its not as if Slaton has proven to be a rookie fluke. He had close to 700 total yds and 6 TDs when he was "benched" not to mention the 32 rec for PPR purposes. I agree with Stewart being the more talented back, but scheme and opportunity are just as important for fantasy purposes.

You're placing way too much emphasis on short term situation. I wouldn't assume that Stewart will be a backup for the next few years or that Slaton will remain the undisputed starter (which he's not).

So you think its more likely that Stewart leapfrogs DeAngelo Williams--who is only in his 4th season by the way, its not like this is Thomas Jones we're talking about--than Steve Slaton leapfrogs Ryan Moats? If Houston goes out and drafts Dwyer or Spiller or Best, I might agree with you guys, but until that happens it seems clear to me that Slaton will have more opportunity to produce than Stewart for this season, next season, and the foreseeable future. And I'll say again that in PPR leagues its Slaton and not even close (thanks to 82 rec in his first 25 career games).

Use your imagination.DWill was drafted in 2006. I doubt he has many years left on his rookie deal. He could walk in free agency or Carolina could trade him. The Panthers could also opt to trade Stewart for players/picks. They're a bad team in need of talent. None of these options are far-fetched. Slaton hasn't played well this season. The Texans have already shown a willingness to go with other options by starting Ryan Moats. Do you really think Slaton's job is secure? I'd say quite the opposite is true. The Texans will be looking to upgrade their RBs in the offseason if someone doesn't step up. You're looking almost entirely at today's situations and yesterday's stats. Those are largely irrelevant when you talk about dynasty values. Dynasty is about anticipating the future. I think Stewart is the superior talent and the much better long term investment.

Thank you for the first actual "answer" to this question. DeAngelo is in the 3rd year of a 5 year contract, so he's locked up for at least 2 more seasons. Stewart is in the 2nd year of a 5 year contract, so he's locked up too. I agree that CAR would be better off trading talent to shore up other areas of their team, but we know how hard it is to make deals in the NFL, rarely happens. I also think that CAR thinks the most dangerous aspect of their team is that they have 2 punishing rushers, I don't see them getting rid of one. I understand that keeper/dynasty is about anticipating the future, but doesn't next year count too? What I'm saying is, would you rather have on your roster Slaton producing as, say, an RB2 for the next 3 seasons, or Stewart producing as an RB3/4 for 2 seasons then and RB1 for the third?

 

[basher]

Isn't a lot of the injury concern with Stewart a little trumped up ... he has yet to miss a game with injury ... if anything he might be a little soft during the week

 

[flat_earth]

Thank you for the first actual "answer" to this question. DeAngelo is in the 3rd year of a 5 year contract, so he's locked up for at least 2 more seasons. Stewart is in the 2nd year of a 5 year contract, so he's locked up too. I agree that CAR would be better off trading talent to shore up other areas of their team, but we know how hard it is to make deals in the NFL, rarely happens. I also think that CAR thinks the most dangerous aspect of their team is that they have 2 punishing rushers, I don't see them getting rid of one. I understand that keeper/dynasty is about anticipating the future, but doesn't next year count too? What I'm saying is, would you rather have on your roster Slaton producing as, say, an RB2 for the next 3 seasons, or Stewart producing as an RB3/4 for 2 seasons then and RB1 for the third?

Just a correction - this is DeAngelo's 4th year in the league, meaning next year is his final year on his rookie deal. It makes sense to assume the Panthers are going to have to make a decision on him and Stewart this offseason because he's due for a huge payday.

 

[EBF]

What I'm saying is, would you rather have on your roster Slaton producing as, say, an RB2 for the next 3 seasons, or Stewart producing as an RB3/4 for 2 seasons then and RB1 for the third?

And what I'm saying is you can't assume that Slaton will produce as a RB2 for the next 3 seasons while Stewart produces as a RB3/RB4. When you factor in the probability of Slaton slipping and Stewart rising, I think the edge goes to Stewart. He's quite young. Even if he doesn't become a starter for another 2-3 seasons, he'll still be in his prime with several good seasons in the tank.

 

[skiking08]

Thank you for the first actual "answer" to this question. DeAngelo is in the 3rd year of a 5 year contract, so he's locked up for at least 2 more seasons. Stewart is in the 2nd year of a 5 year contract, so he's locked up too. I agree that CAR would be better off trading talent to shore up other areas of their team, but we know how hard it is to make deals in the NFL, rarely happens. I also think that CAR thinks the most dangerous aspect of their team is that they have 2 punishing rushers, I don't see them getting rid of one. I understand that keeper/dynasty is about anticipating the future, but doesn't next year count too? What I'm saying is, would you rather have on your roster Slaton producing as, say, an RB2 for the next 3 seasons, or Stewart producing as an RB3/4 for 2 seasons then and RB1 for the third?

Just a correction - this is DeAngelo's 4th year in the league, meaning next year is his final year on his rookie deal. It makes sense to assume the Panthers are going to have to make a decision on him and Stewart this offseason because he's due for a huge payday.

DeAngelo signed a 5 year extension in 2006. Stewart signed a 5 year extension in 2008.

 

[az_prof]

JS will never make it threw a year w/o being injured.

Dude plays injured. How many games has he missed? And he has top notch talent whereas Slaton is only average.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Come on. There's some serious denial in here as to what kind of back Steve Slaton is.

RB2 value?! Seriously? He got, what, 7 touches yesterday. Dude can't even fend off Ryan Moats.

 

[Riffraff]

Thank you for the first actual "answer" to this question. DeAngelo is in the 3rd year of a 5 year contract, so he's locked up for at least 2 more seasons. Stewart is in the 2nd year of a 5 year contract, so he's locked up too. I agree that CAR would be better off trading talent to shore up other areas of their team, but we know how hard it is to make deals in the NFL, rarely happens. I also think that CAR thinks the most dangerous aspect of their team is that they have 2 punishing rushers, I don't see them getting rid of one. I understand that keeper/dynasty is about anticipating the future, but doesn't next year count too? What I'm saying is, would you rather have on your roster Slaton producing as, say, an RB2 for the next 3 seasons, or Stewart producing as an RB3/4 for 2 seasons then and RB1 for the third?

Just a correction - this is DeAngelo's 4th year in the league, meaning next year is his final year on his rookie deal. It makes sense to assume the Panthers are going to have to make a decision on him and Stewart this offseason because he's due for a huge payday.

DeAngelo signed a 5 year extension in 2006. Stewart signed a 5 year extension in 2008.

Correct. 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010. This is year 4. Just have to wait it out like DeAngelo owners did with Foster.

 

[fightingillini]

Stewart was a better dynasty option last year when Slaton was everyone's darling.

I guess I just don't understand why. Stewart is probably more physically gifted than slaton, but he's clearly stuck behind DeAngelo and thats not changing. Slaton has no real competition unless they bring in an LJ or draft an RB high. Its not as if Slaton has proven to be a rookie fluke. He had close to 700 total yds and 6 TDs when he was "benched" not to mention the 32 rec for PPR purposes. I agree with Stewart being the more talented back, but scheme and opportunity are just as important for fantasy purposes.

You're placing way too much emphasis on short term situation. I wouldn't assume that Stewart will be a backup for the next few years or that Slaton will remain the undisputed starter (which he's not).

So you think its more likely that Stewart leapfrogs DeAngelo Williams--who is only in his 4th season by the way, its not like this is Thomas Jones we're talking about--than Steve Slaton leapfrogs Ryan Moats? If Houston goes out and drafts Dwyer or Spiller or Best, I might agree with you guys, but until that happens it seems clear to me that Slaton will have more opportunity to produce than Stewart for this season, next season, and the foreseeable future. And I'll say again that in PPR leagues its Slaton and not even close (thanks to 82 rec in his first 25 career games).

Use your imagination.DWill was drafted in 2006. I doubt he has many years left on his rookie deal. He could walk in free agency or Carolina could trade him. The Panthers could also opt to trade Stewart for players/picks. They're a bad team in need of talent. None of these options are far-fetched. Slaton hasn't played well this season. The Texans have already shown a willingness to go with other options by starting Ryan Moats. Do you really think Slaton's job is secure? I'd say quite the opposite is true. The Texans will be looking to upgrade their RBs in the offseason if someone doesn't step up. You're looking almost entirely at today's situations and yesterday's stats. Those are largely irrelevant when you talk about dynasty values. Dynasty is about anticipating the future. I think Stewart is the superior talent and the much better long term investment.

EBF is spot on. CAR has two very talented backs, but have a ton of needs elsewhere. One of DWill or Stewart could be traded to gain draft picks and rebuild. If I were the Panthers GM, I would see what I could get for either back. CAR needs a QB, WRs, defensive line (Peppers is probably going to leave), and secondary.Agree that Stewart is a much better dynasty option.

 

[KoolKat]

The one who did not lose his job to Ryan Moats.

 

[sho nuff]

Thank you for the first actual "answer" to this question. DeAngelo is in the 3rd year of a 5 year contract, so he's locked up for at least 2 more seasons. Stewart is in the 2nd year of a 5 year contract, so he's locked up too. I agree that CAR would be better off trading talent to shore up other areas of their team, but we know how hard it is to make deals in the NFL, rarely happens. I also think that CAR thinks the most dangerous aspect of their team is that they have 2 punishing rushers, I don't see them getting rid of one. I understand that keeper/dynasty is about anticipating the future, but doesn't next year count too? What I'm saying is, would you rather have on your roster Slaton producing as, say, an RB2 for the next 3 seasons, or Stewart producing as an RB3/4 for 2 seasons then and RB1 for the third?

Just a correction - this is DeAngelo's 4th year in the league, meaning next year is his final year on his rookie deal. It makes sense to assume the Panthers are going to have to make a decision on him and Stewart this offseason because he's due for a huge payday.

DeAngelo signed a 5 year extension in 2006. Stewart signed a 5 year extension in 2008.

Correct. 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010. This is year 4. Just have to wait it out like DeAngelo owners did with Foster.

Only DeAngelo is much more talented than Deshaun Foster.